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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Oroborous
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    Jon Evison, that’s the one, cool guy and perhaps my favorite “modern” author.
    I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all his work, but West of Here is amazing, I love historic fiction!
    Really funny, and knowledgeable, and super nice. We had the pleasure to meet and tip a few with him on a couple occasions. He even sent us schwag!

    The Knack, lol, Wow, there’s a blast from the past!
    No offense intended, (just going for a laugh) but first thing pops into my demented mind was the spoof “my scrotum” by I believe Cheech Marin?

  • Mr. Ones
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    I don’t mind any topics, I’m just not too talkative during topics I don’t relate to as well as others.
    Like most, music is my favorite topic here, especially when I get turned on to something new!! More on that later.
    I have loved reading since I was 5 years old. I had a sister 4 years older who taught me to read before I started school. What a gift that was. Oddly, I love sci-fi TV & Movies, but never enjoyed reading it. I strongly favor non-fiction, biographies, history and the like. I read a lot of bios of musicians. Currently about 150 pages in to the new Bill Frisell bio. Doesn’t get much better than that for me. I occasionally read fiction, usually when it’s written by Nick Hornby, my favorite current writer by a mile.
    My sports fanatic dad pretty much insured that I would become one too. One of my fave stories to tell, to describe how when an evening has a conflict between a sporting event and a concert…let’s just say one September evening in 1979, I gave up World Series tickets to see The Knack in DC.
    (The game was postponed and I got to see it the next night).
    DAVEROCK, I finally got a copy of the afore mentioned 5-disc set. It is even better than you described. Only 3 discs in, but excited to continue on-Thanks for the great tip!!

    Last 5:

    Think I’m Going Weird-Disc 3
    “”””””""””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 2
    “””””””"””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 1
    Pieces of Jade-Scott LaFaro
    At Your Birthday Party-Steppenwolf

    Music is the Best!!!!!!

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Billy - I forgot about hiking. About ten years ago, I took my daughters on a trip down the Pacific Coast highway starting in San Francisco and ending in San Diego. Riding in a Ford Mustang convertible of course. To this day, the highlight of the entire trip for them was hiking Hawk Hill. No lie. They still talk about it.

    Dave - great authors are a rarity. You are correct. Best to enjoy them slowly. I just finished a Steinbeck kick. That dude can write. Looking forward to Dickens.

    Oro - it did get chippy out there. Especially Draisaitl. With all that talent there is no need for it. You'll become the next Marchand. Not cool at all.

    Also, are you referring to Jon Evison who wrote "West of Here"? If so, I am half way through his new book, Small World. That is pretty ironic. I never heard of him until a few weeks ago.

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    Boblopes - that is the very copy of PKD's short stories that I am reading. I got the single volume "Selected Stories" which is a beautiful book and a great selection. My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw that Complete Short Stories edition advertised last year. I made the big mistake of discussing it with a friend first, and showing it to her online. She was very disapproving - I stalled - and the next thing I knew, it had sold out. Now it is advertised on ebay for twice it's original price. Still - it was really expensive.
    The next two on my list are "Something Wicked This Way Comes" by Ray Bradbury and the two in one "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and "A Scanner Darkly" by PKD.
    I discovered the Folio Society about 15 years ago - beautiful books, and because people who buy them tend to look after them, you can sometimes find second hand copies which are in mint condition.
    But never the ones by science fiction authors, unfortunately. Second hand copies of those are usually advertised at two or three time their original price.
    Never though I'd see reference to The Folio Society on here!

  • Oroborous
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    Morning!

    Just read a great debut novel: Raft of Stars by Andrew Graff.
    Nice little sorta old fashion (in a good way) one day read.
    The biggest thing I find that influences my read opinions nowadays is the ending. I’ve read many books the last few years that are great, until the end. Some of these authors are really good, but as my buddy Jon Evison would say they just can’t get outta the way of their own coffee breath.
    Now admittedly I do like a nice clean ending with loose ends tied up etc, but it’s not necessary if the book is really good otherwise. But I hate when your left gaping, wondering what the hell just happened. Like your watching a really intense movie, and right at the big crescendo, the cable or internet goes out! Dooaahh!
    This one has a good ending, but perhaps goes a little over the top? I guess that’s for the reader to decide?
    Probably my only slight criticism.
    Great characters, some who get a interesting treatment of self analyzation, plot moves along nicely as the tension builds, all without going on too long.

    HOCKEY: sorry to the folks who get riled, it’ll all be over soon and it’s not like this place has been a hot bed of GD lately.

    PROUDFOOT: as AJ states, like the Dead, hockey can be an acquired taste. The regular season can sometimes get tedious and you can tell the players sometimes dial it in, but not as bad as baseball.
    But the Stanley Cup playoffs are often the best sports there is (imho), at least in North America.
    Most of the games this year have been incredibly exciting. Think Super bowl energy sustained over the course of several weeks. Perhaps like the final four or NBA finals? So watch the playoffs to get an idea of what hockey can be like at its best. If you don’t like it, ce la vie, hey, there’s always the GOGD if nothing else!

    VGUY: curious if you’ve been enjoying this years action even though your beloved K-nits are not playing?

    AJ: that’s why they call them the Avalanche: one minute it’s all calm and sunny, next a fast wall of terror rains down and moneys missing from yer dresser, your daughters knocked up, and your GD HD won’t work!
    Yep, zero zero, then Whooosshh seconds later 3 zip!
    And hey, who has a hotter Ice Crew!
    The Oilers we’re doing a fine job of controlling the AVs in the first, though perhaps getting a little goonish? Thought there were some questionable non calls? Unfortunately, late in the game Kane and company definitely were going too far. I get the whole need to maintain respect etc, but it’s the conference finals FFS. Hope things don’t start going too far and someone gets hurt.
    And what about Frankie? Thought he did a good job in the first series, but I was a little unsettled by his last outing. Last night he did a great job and it’s fun to see how the fans love him. Really curious what’s up with Kuemper? He didn’t seem distressed and actually kept playing for a bit before he left so wondering what’s up?
    Tonight should be really interesting to see if the Rangers are for real, or if game one was a fluke?

    BOBLOPES: good to see ya back in the rotation here. Never been a huge sci-fi fan, but did read (at least?) the first Dune book like 40 years ago. Not sure about the others. Same with Hitch Hikers Guide. Theodore Sturgeon’s More Than Human that influenced how the GD became what they are has always been my favorite. Always been a big believer in Gestalt theory. The Stand was another good one I read back then, should reread since Covid.
    Rut roh, the B’s, LOL as THATMIKE says “your off the Xmass card list”

    Speaking of, what happened to Mike? Curious about his current hockey thoughts, and always his musical thoughts too. Hopefully he’s not having severe depression, like after the funeral is over and everyone goes home and now yer all alone to cope

    FYI, JIMS currently outta the office, er a, the loop here as he needs to maximize every once of big water he can while the gettin’s good. He’ll be back before ya know it and with a new relaxed perspective that comes from the satiated fulfilled contentment that comes from exhausting yourself doing things you love! Kinda like after dancing yer ares off after THAT dead show! Better than therapy and at a fraction of the cost!

    It’s Friday good people, summers here (sorta) and the time is right for dancing in the streets! Hopefully Oroboros and others have been having a gas at Jrad!
    GAME ON!

    Dear captcha, thanks for wasting yet another half hour of my life with yer ridiculous (because of your flaws) nonsense that only seems to stymie DHs just trying to connect and communicate in spite of the lousy format that is the internet.

  • hendrixfreak
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    This is the hottest band in the land and has been for 10 years. By all means, go with an open mind. They'll rock your socks off.

    That is all.

  • boblopes
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    Discovered Folio Society last fall and been rediscovering my favorite Science Fiction books I have not read in 30 years, along with reading the Ian Fleming books for the first time. Sort of like the yearly releases here, very nice editions but pricey. I get to experience your shipping woes in reverse (minus the VAT).

    Folio Society just came out with a nice edition of PKD's short stories. I think they had a Limited Edition set of all of PKD's short stories, but that sold out long before I discovered them and was too pricey for my budget...

    Halfway through The Handmaids Tale (1st read). Next up will be Moonraker, then deciding between Dune or Foundation Trilogy (both re-reads).

    Still have some of the 4 disc E72 Germany shows to go thru, but finished strong with all four Lyceum shows on their anniversary date. Did a little blast thru the three cd's of Kate Bush due to Stranger Things the last couple of days.

    Rooting for the Celtics in The Finals and hoping The Oilers bounce back. Sad to see the B's get bounced. Suspect it's Bergeron's last season wearing the Spoked B. Would like to see a Canadian Team win some year (as long as it's not the HABs or the Canucks). My preference would be The Leafs if the B's are out.

    Played Disc Golf for the first time in 30 years. Bought 2 beginner sets for my daughter and I and we went for the toss and walk last Sunday. Last time I played was in 1990 when my college concert crew and I road-tripped to see another buddy who lived in DC. It was a whirlwind trip. Did the monument tour, visited the Whitehouse, a session of both the House of Rep and Senate. We walked around Georgetown and saw BobW walking around there and headed off to play Disc Golf. The next day got to see my first Dark Star hitting the monsoon that was RFK on 7/12/90. Pretty sure Jimbo was at that show.

  • Dennis
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    Side Note,,, what else?

    Just got mail about the Jerry Garcia Before the Dead. They've release in limited vinyl. They're 150,,,, amazon had some seem as high as 450?? Not sure why.

    They seem like they are limited, but the amazon ads seem old,,,, the jerry site says back in stock?!?

    I ordered,,,, I have the cd set and have always like it, so what the hell.

  • daverock
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    It's the best way. I'm wading through PK Dick's short stories, and I'm in no hurry to finish. Both Dick and Dickens are worlds to get lost in.

  • billy the kiddd
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    Beer, bbq, blues music, sports, and hiking in the hills around the Bay Area .

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

Sixtus

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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