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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    My Doctor wrote a book.....

    Since we were just talking about famous people and now we are talking about literature I will combine the two subjects. My doctor wrote the book The Kite Runner, once he wrote the book he no longer needed to be my doctor. He was a great guy and a great doctor.

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    Letters - Barry Miles

    "The Letters of William S. Burroughs 1944-1959" is a great book. In fact, I prefer it his novels. Less messing about, if you know what I mean.
    And talking of Barry Miles - his "William Burroughs - A Life" is worth looking at, if you are interested in Burroughs. It seems a very truthful book - it doesn't always present Burroughs in the best light - which, considering what he did, isn't a bad thing.
    Denis Johnson is a more recent American writer who is worth reading. His collection of short stories, "Jesus' Son" is a good starting point, chronicling his life of addiction and petty crime in the late 60's, I think. He thankfully transcended that lifestyle, though, and the last book he wrote before dying in 2017- the beautiful "The Largesse of The Sea Maiden" is exceptional.
    Harry Crews is another hot one. " The Knock out Artist" about an ex boxer who retires and goes on to earn money by knocking himself out with a single punch to the face is a wild and windy ride.

  • hendrixfreak
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    This forum is triggering my CD and book buying....

    and that's not a complaint. Okay, I'll go for Carolyn Cassady's book and the 1926 Jack Black. So to this literature list I must add a few:

    The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man by David W. Mauer (inside look from 1940 on how hustlers of every stripe fleeced their marks, from the late 1800s to 1940)

    Lowlife: Lures and Snares of Old New York by Luc Sante (1991) More than you want to know about the underclass in NYC, from pimps and whores to rogue police to grog shop druggings/robbings. The goods.

    Both are meticulously documented nonfiction. And if you have the stomach for the very nastiest fiction, try

    Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby Jr. (1957). Indescribable, the prose is tough as nails. Horrifying in parts, downright disgusting in others. Highly recommended....

  • Oroborous
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    We’ve got the beat

    As I said, I spent a little time on the (beat) mountain.
    As is often the case, On The Road was my gateway drug to the beats via the Dead! I’ve Read much of but not all Kerouac. And now have a bunch more “new” stuff I’ve not read yet. It’s been so many moons ago and my reading comprehension perhaps was not as good, so it might have been me, but a lot of Jacks writing can be tough. He unfortunately at times could really wallow in the mire. As the years passed, and the alcohol took hold, he wasn’t the same young enthusiastic Sal Paradise most know and love. But there are also so many fine writings! Just Gotta Poke Around!
    My favs above and beyond OTR are: Dharma Bums, the parts of Desolation Angels that involves the former, and a book of short Stories called Lonesome Traveler. Gary Snyder is awesome, but alas I’m not much of a poetry guy : (
    I have several bios, but have not read them all yet. Our boy McNally’s Desolate Angel is very good, Angel headed Hipster by Turner, Subterranean Kerouac by Amburn, The Awakener by Helen Weaver, Jacks Book by Gifford, and Memory Babe by Nicosia, which some consider THE JK book, but since it came to me late in life I have not read it yet. In fact so much stuff from and about Jack has come round in later years and unfortunately their just collecting dust since Ive been more inclined to read other things. I often get really deep into a topic, then move on. But hopefully some day I’ll get the beat bug again.
    There are some good “letters” books too that give more insight to the actual people behind the characters and are interesting snap shots of life in mid century America.
    Carolyn Cassady’s Off the Road is another excellent inside look, but from a much different perspective. along with Women of the Beat Generation by Knight.

    The Holy Goof is good, but I think I liked The Cassady Issue of the great Spit In the Ocean series the best!
    Mucho cool stuff in those Spit in the Ocean issues! The Fast Life of a Beat Hero I think is good? Cant remember but I have it so? The First Third is more about little Neal and the sometimes incredible, but often horrible, eye opening experiences of his youth than the Angel Headed Hipster he became. He always aspired to be a writer and having the big time writer friends he had, you could say things rubbed off on him. He also worked very hard on his writing, so it’s not as I say A book to judge by its author! Some of Jacks portraits of his own child hood are also some favorite JK writings. Again, interesting looks into sort of working class mid century American life.

    As much as I dig psychedelic Neal 2.0 and all his influence on the scene and his Herculean feats with the pranksters et el, I prefer early beat Neal, Dean Moriarty, I think of Dean Moriarty…

    It’s been so long etc, but I have read some Burroughs and Ginsberg etc, but I’ve never been a big poetry person, and Burroughs can be a bit too out there, but I loved reading a ton of Jack, and anything by or about Neal.
    OTR and more so Dharma Bums literally changed my life in my twenties! Must Reads imho.

  • proudfoot
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    Hearing 9/18/74 for the first time in a while

    Mighty tasty

    One of the first shows I ever heard on cassette back in the day

    I called my friend and said "more Dead!"

  • nappyrags
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    Oh...and another is...

    "The Beat Hotel: Ginsberg, Burroughs & Corso in Paris, 1957-1963" by Barry Miles...had a blast reading this ...have his Zappa bio in storage somewhere....damn books....

  • nappyrags
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    before Neal Cassidy, before…

    before Neal Cassidy, before Herbert Huncke, there was Jack Black who wrote "You Can't Win" published in 1926...his autobiography details his life as a petty criminal and dealing with "straight society"....

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    The First Third etc

    HF/Oro - that's good to know. I have read around "The First Third" in a way, without ever actually coming across the book itself. I have a copy of "The Collected Correspondence of Allen Ginsberg and Neal Cassady", here, that has letters in it between the two people from the 1940s-1960s. I will definitely dip into that again before the summer is done. And I read Carolyn Cassady's "Off The Road" when that came out some 30 years ago.

    The best holiday of my life was in 1990 when we went on a tour of the West Coast-my one and only visit to America. We only spent two days in San Francisco, and spent the time alternately doing what me and my girlfriend chose to do. Us having little in common. As San Francisco meant more to me than it did her, I had first shout - and off to City Lights book shop we went. Among others, I got a biography of Neal called "The Holy Goof", by someone I had never heard of at the time and have never heard of since, called William Plummer. Like the other books I have just mentioned, I have never read it since, but I thought it was great at the time.

    And when I got back home, there was a letter ( or maybe "Spiral Light", I forget) on my doorstep, telling me The Dead were playing Wembley that October. 1990 was like my 1960s.

  • bluecrow
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    way deep

    Oro and HF - you are guys are so deep in the catalog. I'm amazed. Feeling out of the know for sure on works like the First Third. so yeah, way back in late high school it was On The Road, of course, that opened my mind. But out of that scene it was Gary Snyder (Dharma Bums, Japhy Ryder,) that ended up having the most profound affect. Still someone I turn to time and again. Riprap and Cold Mountain Poems is foundational (Migration of Birds!) and then there is the Smokey the Bear Sutra.

    Ginsberg also, of course.

  • Oroborous
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    I’m with HF

    The First Third is mos def better than one might be inclined to assume. “Don’t let the glasses fool ya” oh, wait, that’s Bromberg, ahem, aaaa, how bout, don’t judge a book by its author!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Hung over, barely conscious, slumped in the lazy boy, bit of drool on the chin? Watching highlights.
Get a grip man, it’s only game one so far!!
When the going gets weird…
It was a tale of two cities: the AVs came down on the Preds like their namesake on a small Swiss village, but ESPN had to ruin it, at least for moi. Because of the never ending Rangers/Pens game (Boo!) they sent the AVs game to another channel. Well if your recording the game like I’m guessing a significant population ahem, you probably were unaware of this situation until it was too late, Dooaahh!
So only caught part of the first and the third periods. Hopefully the AVs are THAT good, and this wasn’t a fluke?
Tonight we’re turning Canadian again (actually I’m part Canadian already) and heading back to the TO where hopefully the Leafs will show us there for real this year and not the Leaves again!
GO LEAFS!!

I know it is one game, but I told you the Avs were good. And still the team to beat.

Look at it this way, at least you recoded the rangers/pens game and not a Hallmark movie. What a game. The rangers looked like they were going to blow them out after period 1. Chalk it up to inexperience.

Good luck to the Leafs tonight. I was very surprised by how flat Tampa was in game 1. Expecting a much better effort tonight.

Edmonton - WTF? Way to give away game 1.

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Hockey:

It's hard to watch with the constant camera motion. I get motion sickness.

Also, never been a big hockey fan.

I have made my "I leave sports alone to avoid disappointment" comments previously, too.

And, don't you have to pay to watch the playoffs on the telly?

I do enjoy watching y'alls comments on the playoffs.

last 5
Boris - Feedbacker
13th Floor Elevators - Live (amazing cover art, horrific production...studio tracks with canned audience applause and cheers and stuff)
Gov't Mule - Dub Side of the Mule (didn't make it to the end)
Nashville Pussy - High as Hell
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon

GD: 5/25/77 (disc three awaits)

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True to form, my DaP is likely sitting in some Customs house, where it will remain for days waiting for clearance. It’s amazing how I can order CDs from Germany, Switzerland, and the UK, and it is generally ten calendar days door to door, but DaP will be minimum 14, 15+ days.

As for the playoffs, I have great faith that Colorado is going to be in the final. They are a team built for the body burn that is the playoffs; they crushed a decent Nashville team last night like they were a college practice squad. Tonight, let thy might Leafs take another step up the rung with another win. Everyone says Tampa played so poorly. Hey. props to them as a good team, but maybe, just maybe, the Leafs are that good.

Oro - Before taking out citizenship here, let me tell you we have a useless waste of space for a “leader”. And don’t get me going on the taxes to pay for this moron’s brainstorms…

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BETTER than 05-08-77
YES I SAID IT!!!!!!!

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Excellent choice of shows. Great Here Comes Sunshine and one of the best locomotive Big Rivers and effervescent Eyes Of The World that exist. Sound is wonderful. Having said all that, how about printing all enclosed reading material (speaking of Wasserman's column specifically) large enough to read. Please. Even with readers I had to get a magnifying glass and I can't be the only one. Thank you.

YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!

I WAS GOING TO SCAN IT IN JUST SO I COULD BLOW UP ENOUGH!!!

The other thing is when text color and background color and font all clash into something you can't read.

Yellow letters on a black background, may sound good, but damn that can be a hard one!

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@wissinoming
I've never heard the first set but the second set is superb. IMHO, the best Comes A Time ever. I've skipped back and played it 4 or 5x in a row. I wish this was in the May 77 box instead of 5-5.

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As already pointed out, the sound on this one is top shelf. Oro that was for you compliments of RJ.

As also mentioned, the boys had difficulty with the vocals for the first few songs. Suboptimal, yes, but it doesn’t really take away from the rest of the music. HCS is unbelievable. The vocals on that song are large the irrelevant anyway. To me that has always been unbelievably jammed out first set song. Love hearing it during this era.

I can’t read the liner notes either. However, a non-music highlight for me is the quote from the chick from Hayward on the inside cover.

When I was growing up we lived near a concrete spillway. On it was spray painted Uriah Heep. Next to it scrawled in smaller letters was the saying “ The Grateful Dead is for your head.” I never understood what it meant growing up. Now I do.

Go Leafs.

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You're absolutely correct it's that Playin>Comes A Time>Playin sequence that makes it. And I agree this show more than ever beckons a full Norman. As far as the first set IMO the L.L. Rain is the BEST ever played and the set closing Dancin is BETTER than the gem played 05/08. It's also one the best SB's I ever heard. Yeah MAY the 4th BE WITH YOU!!!!

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I didn’t lick it, saving that for the weekend.

Small print and using similar colors for text and background, definitely a major fail.
I stopped trying to read the booklets years ago.

I really like this Playing in the Band so far…

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Just arrived. Will give it a spin tonight.

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Greetings All.

A question for your collective, valued knowledge and recollection. Does anyone know or recall if "Dave" had produced a video to announce the release of the Europe '72 Box set back in, was it 2011? Or was the official release only posted on Dead.net in a written announcement? I have tried various searches, but I cannot seem to locate any information on a video announcement for the release.

Any help with this question would be appreciated.

Hope everyone has a nice day.

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Spacebrother,

Please check your PM.

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....that song holds a special place in my ❤️. It was the first GD song I listened to after Jerry passed. Had a tape in my truck stereo.
Got off work and headed to my friend's house. We just listened to the Dead all night and barely said a word. Smoked a lot. Nothing had to be said.
Still miss you big guy.
"And it's strange how no one comes around anymore".
We had just mail ordered for MSG. Would have been our first east coast shows. Money orders were returned.
Some heads actually got physical tix back. I'm actually grateful we didn't. Is that weird?
Edit. Slipknot! tease in the Playin' y'all!! I wonder if that was random and Jerry wrote down that riff for future use or if they were already working on it.
Interesting.
Double edit for spoilers. Apologies. But it's cool AF. Gonna rewind. I'll be right back.

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I like the china cat loafing on a speaker on the back of the bonus disk sleeve.

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Jerry sounds really into it on the vocals on sugaree. He really stresses out the words like he popped a quaalude or two, which is a good thing.

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It’s been in “USPS currently awaiting package” purgatory for five days now. Beginning to suspect in a couple of weeks I’ll have to drop customer service a line and hope there’s a replacement copy available. Went through this with one of last year’s releases. Most aggravating.

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aka: Cinco de Mayo.
The victory over the French oppressors.
Viva Mexico!
Salud!
I'm really just at the party for the food.

It only serves to aggravate.

Get refreshed and reaquaint yourself with your GD collection for a few days. Daves 42 will show up quick.

It's like the phrase "a watched pot never boils"

Maybe that's a family thing...

But anyway, rejoice! Daves 42 will get to you!!!

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There were no video announcements of Dead products back then. I DO recall getting updates as to how many discs it would take to finish the set. Either they were still getting tapes, or they hadn't quite worked out how to best present these complete shows on discs.
I cannot recall exactly when the video announcements came, though I am confidant that one of our brother "Heads" will come up with the answer to this riddle.
I'm still waiting for my Dave's 42, but still listening to other great stuff:

Phish-8/11/21 Hershey Park
Elton John-Capt. Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy
Al DiMeola-Casino
Paul Bley-Fragments
Bruce Springsteen-Letter To You

Music is the BEST!!

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makes me reach out to those who are enduring that ish for real.

May Peace Prevail on Earth.

Joseph Campbell said, "The Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb." (that might be a paraphrase, but I read it somewhere)

GRATEFUL DEAD FOR EVERYONE!!!

"there's a party in my mind
and I hope it never stops"
-TH

What to wear? What to listen to on the drive? Packing and heading out the door in a bit...Vegas for A Cinco with Mariachi Vargas and then tomorrow night Lobos at Boulder Station (which is where I'm staying...always good to take an elevator to a show)...Now where's those French tourists I can slap around to celebrate???

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Missing not being in Vegas, drinking tequila with vguy this year! But I'll have a remote shot or three!

Listening to 1st Olympia night from RSD Vinyl today and sounds sweet. Have not had a chance to taste latest DaP. Entering the convergence where E'72 and May77 collide.

Trying to stay focused... My DaP1 vinyl is arriving on Mother's Day - woops...

Stay safe and have a fun 5/5!

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...number 1152 has landed, yesterday! A day earlier than predicted by UPS!

So far the Dire Wolf, Here Comes Sunshine, and that awesome jam after Let it Grow stand out for me. Someone commented that Jerry is really stretching out the lyrics in his singing Sugaree, that's for sure.

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I appreciate your time in replying to my post. I have found videos announcements going back to Dave's Picks #1. I do remember the 'unboxing' of Spring 90 video, but nothing before that.

Those videos have been made available for some time now, on the GD videos channel on Youtube.

Thank you again for your time.

Hope you have a nice day and your DaP 42 arrives today.

Regards.

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A drawing had various song lyrics intertwined into drawing

One set of lyrics said

Trouble ahead
Ttouble behind

I found that to be cool

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"Taking an elevator to a show" sounds like an implicit invitation to overdo the tah-kill-ya... Don't do anything I wouldn't do, Nappyrags!

Finally arrived at the last disc of St Louis box, said to be the killer in the box. That's tonight. Then I turn to DP 42.

Still pondering the imponderable: what kind of box has TPTB been cooking up?

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After learning that my order was “returned to sender” due to a “bad address,” I reached out to Rhino. A person named Dr. Rhino immediately responded and offered to send a replacement. 48 hours later, the USPS recognized their mistake and delivered the package. I wrote Dr. Rhino and told him to cancel the replacement. I share this post to say that Rhino didn’t mess up, but they were willing to fix the problem. I know that saying positive things about Rhino isn’t popular, but here we are.

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....one of the best aspects of this site, is connecting with like minded music loving folks.
Meeting up with Nappy tomorrow at the Los Lobos gig.
Looking very much forward to it.

Should be great, have fun.

One word of advice. if Nappy comes alone, you should be fine, however.. if he comes with his cat it's a set up and all bets are off. Were pretty sure that cat is responsible for some shady and unexplained occurances.

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"Still pondering the imponderable: what kind of box has TPTB been cooking up?"

Hello.

It's been a couple years I have been pondering what a birthday box would look like...

What birthday show of each member of the band would you like too see included in the box?

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I'll Bite

Phil
03/15/69
Hilton Hotel - San Francisco, CA

Bobby
10/16/81
Club Melk Weg - Amsterdam, Netherlands

Billy
05/07/89
Frost Amphitheater, Stanford University - Palo Alto, CA

Pigpen
With 9/8/73 being recently released... this was a tough one
09/08/91
Madison Square Garden - New York City, NY

Mickey
09/11/83
Santa Fe Downs - Santa Fe, NM

Jerry
08/01/73
Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ

Keith
07/19/89
Alpine Valley Music Theater - East Troy, WI

Donna
08/22/68
Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA

Tom - going with 3/19/77 knowing this show really should be released with the Winterland Spring 1977 Box Set.
03/19/77
Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
(honorable mention - 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY)

Bruce
11/23/73
County Coliseum - El Paso, TX

Vince
02/21/69
Dream Bowl - Vallejo, CA

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no email, no tracking, nothing, nada, but it arrived anyway. Just heard that usps will be upping the cost to mail letters and packages, what else is new.
Quaaludes, I remember reading or hearing about a show that someone gave Jerry some ludes, it did not go well.

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I'll only use shows that they played on. : Phil. 3/15/69. Black & White Ball S.F. PIG. Pen9/8/67. Eagles Auditorium WA. Bob. 10/16/74. Winterland, Bill. 5/7/70. MIT. Jerry. 8/1/73. N.J. Mickey. 9/11/81. Greek Theatre ( I was there, it was a killer show. They sang Mickey happy birthday before the show. Now that is a killer box set.

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This is addressed to ALL on this site. You guys and gals are the Best!! Somedays, my only laughs come from you. Keep it up, we all need to smile.
Hoping for a Da's 42 delivery this weekend!!

Music is the Best(Too)!!

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For Jerry's 31st birthday on 08/01/73 at Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ. I clearly recall a woman sitting on a man's shoulders at the lip of the stage handing a bday cake to a roadie while the band was on stage. I could see Jer smiling from 100 feet away. And that's pretty much my ONLY memory of that two-nighter with The Band, as it occurred mere days after the two-dayer at Watkins Glen. I was all of 15, but getting wiser by the day. Man, were we crisp.

Back to JimInMD on the upcoming box, with a nod to Vguy and Nappy gettin' crazy with Los Lobos. Wish I was there.

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Missed it by this much. Once it got rolling, 42 looked like it might get here ahead of schedule, then it sat for four days in GJ, was “supposed” to be here yesterday, PO has it now, so went, but hasn’t processed it. Anticipation, it’s making me wait!

FOURWINDS: nice to see you, fun box idea, I’ll bite:
VINCE: 73 or 91 whoops, sorry Vince!
PHIL: 73
TOM: 73, whooops, missed the 73 first time
BILLY: 89, or 78
KEITH: 89
JERRY: 73! Dark Star!
DONNA: 72
PIG: 91 Good Show
MICKEY: 73 Dark Star!
BOBBY: 74 or 81
BRENT: 73
BRUCE: 73

NAPPPY and VGUY: I smell trouble! Yes, I’m jealous!

JOSHOGORMAN: great news! Doc to the rescue again!

Glad most are enjoying the new tunes!

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just sayin

and thank you, Mr Ones

this is a place for my psyche to express itself and to hear from other crazies

y'all be cool

I like the way you think.. except some of these shows either were not recorded or the tapes do not exist (thinking 9/8/67, etc.). Don't give Rhino any ideas suggesting we might pay for a rare yet empty box set, they might go for it.

Proudfoot.. oh crap, I forgot Vince. So sorry, adding it now.

Mr. Ones, thank you, and right back at you.

PT Barnum, could it have been Valium instead? I recall reading a show where someone was giving them out backstage and Jerry jumped at the opportunity, downed a few and as it turns out he might have been allergic to Valium. 2/7/79?? Words of Wisdom from Jeff Spicoli, "People on ludes should not drive" (or play guitar and sing at the same time)

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