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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Oroborous
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    Berry interesting. Another awesome box that has not had proper love!
    I need to carve out some time this summer and reacquaint, especially the 11th, hmmmm, that number 11 again lol.
    Agree on 76 evolution etc. Really is yet another interesting transitional period, and another that amazes me how many consider it fly by territory? To each their own I guess…

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    ....funny you've mentioned 7/18/76 - I, too have an excellent bootleg CD of this show and it is indeed a WHOPPER! The sheer ins 'n outs of songs during that second set is truly magical. It's outstanding.

    As for my favs in all 'O 76, I was OVER THE MOON when the June '76 box came out - it hit all of my sweet sweet spots, and in doing, so, included my all-time favorite show from '76: June 11th. I needn't go into excruciating detail on this one, it seems to speak for itself on many levels; but that second set is is just pure drippy bliss to these ears. The Eyes is, hands down, my all-time favorite. Fight me!

    But, that entire box is so outstanding and I really love the grooves they spew forth in that early part of the tour and then on into July. By the end of the summer, the sound is already starting to morph and get a bit more edge, which takes on an entirely different conversation and feel heading into '77.

    Thanks for inquiring Oro. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Be Well Peeps!
    Sixtus

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    Here we go again: I have an idea!

    The PNW box was rightly hailed for showcasing the band's development in '71 to '73, major years of evolution in setlists and style.

    And we assume, probably correctly, that vault tapes for the earlier years are fairly scarce. Taking up the spirit of the PNW box, an even greater illustration of band development would be to issue a modest box containing one show each from 1966 to 1970, the first five years leading into the 71-73 period of growth. The '66, '67 and '68 shows might well be one disc, two discs each for '69 and '70. Beef it up with a lengthy '68 show or two-show curated output for '69 and '70. Or pad it with partial shows that will never be complete. Ten discs and a booklet for $100. Make it limited edition if necessary.

    Screw the fetishization of anniversaries and just do it. One show each from the slender stock of '66-'70 won't kill future notions of other uses. (And what "other uses" can anyone imagine? Shows from the first five years don't exactly scream potential release as "Dave's Picks" due to length.)

    Yet another brilliant idea from HF that may never happen. But it's worth considering....

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    7/12/76
    7/13/76
    7/14/76
    7/16/76
    7/18/76
    yeah
    (7/17/76 already released...)

    I looked yesterday and saw that the Avs were up 3-1 at the end of second period. I am surprised the Blues came back. in Colorado.

    Sports...

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    The 18th is the shizzle, but selfishly I hope they don’t release it soon as I have a great bootleg copy on CD, so would rather have something released we don’t have lol I got a tape of that one very early in my development and I’ve always loved the energy and turn on a dime segways on that one. Perhaps my favorite 76 show?
    Ha, great question for Sixtus: what’s yer favorite 76 show?

    EDIT: I’ve not heard the 13th. Consider radar fully pegged!

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    Me too AJ

    I’ve been pretty relaxed throughout the playoffs so far, but third period last night I started getting the fear.
    Actually started getting unsettled before that since all the broadcasters etc were acting like it was already over.
    Now being a Buffalo Loser for sixty years has made me a tad superstitious. See the last Bills game for reference, ahem. So it makes me extremely uncomfortable when they do that. By the end of the game everyone was acting like it was over: the press, the crowd, the AVs, everyone except the Blues!
    But the thing that really signaled code red was the increasing sloppy play in the AVs own zone. As the Blues started scoring/catching up, they seemed to become extremely energized, like folks fighting for thier life will do. At the same time most of the AVs seemed to ? Can’t really describe but the result was increased sloppy play and worse, scary turnovers in their zone. This seems like their Achilles heel throughout the playoffs?
    When McKinnon got the hat trick it was a slight relief, but I actually said to the other half, that I was worried this isn’t over because of the above. Sure enough, they tied er up and now it’s a whole new game.
    I told her at the start of OT if they keep coughing up the puck their gonna lose…
    I felt really bad for McKinnon after having such an amazing game. That ridiculous third goal was old school magic ala Gilbert Perrault, beauty eh! But one player does not a team make!
    So now you have an extremely capable and energized Blues team, heading back home where the fans will be jacked like Casey Jones himself, and perhaps an AVs team with internal noise In their heads, which all makes me like a dog that knows he’s going to the vet! No Bueno!
    Hopefully some of the folks who’ve been quiet in this series will step up because If they don’t git er done in game 6 I think the Blues might win the series.
    Hope this 20 year curse doesn’t turn into a fifty year one like our poor bastard friends from the North. ; )

    And talk about scary good, I’d say currently the Bolts are the team to beat! Not sure what to make of the other eastern series? You’d think Edmonton would learn from the AVs and nip that one in the bud tonight?

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    7/13/76, great show, time to release it, I was there. Those Orpeum tickets were hard to get, they went fast. The Orpheum only holds 1800 people. I saw Garcia play there a couple of times in the 80s.

  • proudfoot
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    I know 7 17 76 has been released
    But
    How 'bout others?
    Ever heard 7 16 76 first set?
    2nd set today...

    And whoever among us that advocated for MUATM return.. YEAH. Covid ish probably delayed it again this year

    But I will do my own MUATM in August

    Be kind to everyone today, my fellow Deadheads

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    That’s a really bad loss. Makes me nervous.

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    E72....DaP 42....DaP 1

    As usual, my listening sprint was derailed by the May Dave's Picks. I have managed to get the Dark Stars in. There is a cool Steve Hoffman Forum thread that has people analyzing all Dark Stars in great detail. A must for people who enjoy reading about the little nuances and time stamps when everything occurrs.

    E72 repeats. I find a lot of cool stuff from version to version on many of them. The longer jam songs are obviously worth the trip. But even the shoter tunes have subtle differences that make them great to get to know (most of them).

    This Dave's Picks is incredible to my ears. It's just a consistent dose of Dead all the way through with great sound and good mixing. Yeah, there are some audio anomalies here and there, but they're not too frequent. Billy is having a night of it. I've been including the Bonus Disc highlights within the main set, because I can't wait 4 or 5 hours for China Rider, Brown-Eyed Women, and Uncle John's Band. How does it compare with DaP 13? I can't tell you that...you couldn't afford me....

    Sixtus I also love DaP 1. Man, What I went through to get a copy of that. Some lommox on eBay sold me a burned copy for 40 bucks. What a dick. But I was desperate to hear what was so great about it, and I didn't have any '77 except the commercially available 5/28. So I basically had no exposure to the '77 machine. And it was so popular on eBay, I figured it was the Veneta of '77. It did not disappoint. Still has some if my all time favorites from that year. I think they play just about flawlessly, like a studio record, all the way upmto the backup chorus vocals. I still find it to have the most definitive Mississippi Half-Steps; doesn't have the jam you get with Englishtown, but that's what Englishtown is for. It's only weakness IMHO are the last two songs. Not really into post-hiatus Around And Around or Johnny B.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Hung over, barely conscious, slumped in the lazy boy, bit of drool on the chin? Watching highlights.
Get a grip man, it’s only game one so far!!
When the going gets weird…
It was a tale of two cities: the AVs came down on the Preds like their namesake on a small Swiss village, but ESPN had to ruin it, at least for moi. Because of the never ending Rangers/Pens game (Boo!) they sent the AVs game to another channel. Well if your recording the game like I’m guessing a significant population ahem, you probably were unaware of this situation until it was too late, Dooaahh!
So only caught part of the first and the third periods. Hopefully the AVs are THAT good, and this wasn’t a fluke?
Tonight we’re turning Canadian again (actually I’m part Canadian already) and heading back to the TO where hopefully the Leafs will show us there for real this year and not the Leaves again!
GO LEAFS!!

I know it is one game, but I told you the Avs were good. And still the team to beat.

Look at it this way, at least you recoded the rangers/pens game and not a Hallmark movie. What a game. The rangers looked like they were going to blow them out after period 1. Chalk it up to inexperience.

Good luck to the Leafs tonight. I was very surprised by how flat Tampa was in game 1. Expecting a much better effort tonight.

Edmonton - WTF? Way to give away game 1.

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Hockey:

It's hard to watch with the constant camera motion. I get motion sickness.

Also, never been a big hockey fan.

I have made my "I leave sports alone to avoid disappointment" comments previously, too.

And, don't you have to pay to watch the playoffs on the telly?

I do enjoy watching y'alls comments on the playoffs.

last 5
Boris - Feedbacker
13th Floor Elevators - Live (amazing cover art, horrific production...studio tracks with canned audience applause and cheers and stuff)
Gov't Mule - Dub Side of the Mule (didn't make it to the end)
Nashville Pussy - High as Hell
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon

GD: 5/25/77 (disc three awaits)

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True to form, my DaP is likely sitting in some Customs house, where it will remain for days waiting for clearance. It’s amazing how I can order CDs from Germany, Switzerland, and the UK, and it is generally ten calendar days door to door, but DaP will be minimum 14, 15+ days.

As for the playoffs, I have great faith that Colorado is going to be in the final. They are a team built for the body burn that is the playoffs; they crushed a decent Nashville team last night like they were a college practice squad. Tonight, let thy might Leafs take another step up the rung with another win. Everyone says Tampa played so poorly. Hey. props to them as a good team, but maybe, just maybe, the Leafs are that good.

Oro - Before taking out citizenship here, let me tell you we have a useless waste of space for a “leader”. And don’t get me going on the taxes to pay for this moron’s brainstorms…

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BETTER than 05-08-77
YES I SAID IT!!!!!!!

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Excellent choice of shows. Great Here Comes Sunshine and one of the best locomotive Big Rivers and effervescent Eyes Of The World that exist. Sound is wonderful. Having said all that, how about printing all enclosed reading material (speaking of Wasserman's column specifically) large enough to read. Please. Even with readers I had to get a magnifying glass and I can't be the only one. Thank you.

YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!

I WAS GOING TO SCAN IT IN JUST SO I COULD BLOW UP ENOUGH!!!

The other thing is when text color and background color and font all clash into something you can't read.

Yellow letters on a black background, may sound good, but damn that can be a hard one!

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@wissinoming
I've never heard the first set but the second set is superb. IMHO, the best Comes A Time ever. I've skipped back and played it 4 or 5x in a row. I wish this was in the May 77 box instead of 5-5.

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As already pointed out, the sound on this one is top shelf. Oro that was for you compliments of RJ.

As also mentioned, the boys had difficulty with the vocals for the first few songs. Suboptimal, yes, but it doesn’t really take away from the rest of the music. HCS is unbelievable. The vocals on that song are large the irrelevant anyway. To me that has always been unbelievably jammed out first set song. Love hearing it during this era.

I can’t read the liner notes either. However, a non-music highlight for me is the quote from the chick from Hayward on the inside cover.

When I was growing up we lived near a concrete spillway. On it was spray painted Uriah Heep. Next to it scrawled in smaller letters was the saying “ The Grateful Dead is for your head.” I never understood what it meant growing up. Now I do.

Go Leafs.

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You're absolutely correct it's that Playin>Comes A Time>Playin sequence that makes it. And I agree this show more than ever beckons a full Norman. As far as the first set IMO the L.L. Rain is the BEST ever played and the set closing Dancin is BETTER than the gem played 05/08. It's also one the best SB's I ever heard. Yeah MAY the 4th BE WITH YOU!!!!

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I didn’t lick it, saving that for the weekend.

Small print and using similar colors for text and background, definitely a major fail.
I stopped trying to read the booklets years ago.

I really like this Playing in the Band so far…

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Just arrived. Will give it a spin tonight.

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Greetings All.

A question for your collective, valued knowledge and recollection. Does anyone know or recall if "Dave" had produced a video to announce the release of the Europe '72 Box set back in, was it 2011? Or was the official release only posted on Dead.net in a written announcement? I have tried various searches, but I cannot seem to locate any information on a video announcement for the release.

Any help with this question would be appreciated.

Hope everyone has a nice day.

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Spacebrother,

Please check your PM.

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....that song holds a special place in my ❤️. It was the first GD song I listened to after Jerry passed. Had a tape in my truck stereo.
Got off work and headed to my friend's house. We just listened to the Dead all night and barely said a word. Smoked a lot. Nothing had to be said.
Still miss you big guy.
"And it's strange how no one comes around anymore".
We had just mail ordered for MSG. Would have been our first east coast shows. Money orders were returned.
Some heads actually got physical tix back. I'm actually grateful we didn't. Is that weird?
Edit. Slipknot! tease in the Playin' y'all!! I wonder if that was random and Jerry wrote down that riff for future use or if they were already working on it.
Interesting.
Double edit for spoilers. Apologies. But it's cool AF. Gonna rewind. I'll be right back.

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I like the china cat loafing on a speaker on the back of the bonus disk sleeve.

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Jerry sounds really into it on the vocals on sugaree. He really stresses out the words like he popped a quaalude or two, which is a good thing.

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It’s been in “USPS currently awaiting package” purgatory for five days now. Beginning to suspect in a couple of weeks I’ll have to drop customer service a line and hope there’s a replacement copy available. Went through this with one of last year’s releases. Most aggravating.

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aka: Cinco de Mayo.
The victory over the French oppressors.
Viva Mexico!
Salud!
I'm really just at the party for the food.

It only serves to aggravate.

Get refreshed and reaquaint yourself with your GD collection for a few days. Daves 42 will show up quick.

It's like the phrase "a watched pot never boils"

Maybe that's a family thing...

But anyway, rejoice! Daves 42 will get to you!!!

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There were no video announcements of Dead products back then. I DO recall getting updates as to how many discs it would take to finish the set. Either they were still getting tapes, or they hadn't quite worked out how to best present these complete shows on discs.
I cannot recall exactly when the video announcements came, though I am confidant that one of our brother "Heads" will come up with the answer to this riddle.
I'm still waiting for my Dave's 42, but still listening to other great stuff:

Phish-8/11/21 Hershey Park
Elton John-Capt. Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy
Al DiMeola-Casino
Paul Bley-Fragments
Bruce Springsteen-Letter To You

Music is the BEST!!

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makes me reach out to those who are enduring that ish for real.

May Peace Prevail on Earth.

Joseph Campbell said, "The Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb." (that might be a paraphrase, but I read it somewhere)

GRATEFUL DEAD FOR EVERYONE!!!

"there's a party in my mind
and I hope it never stops"
-TH

What to wear? What to listen to on the drive? Packing and heading out the door in a bit...Vegas for A Cinco with Mariachi Vargas and then tomorrow night Lobos at Boulder Station (which is where I'm staying...always good to take an elevator to a show)...Now where's those French tourists I can slap around to celebrate???

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Missing not being in Vegas, drinking tequila with vguy this year! But I'll have a remote shot or three!

Listening to 1st Olympia night from RSD Vinyl today and sounds sweet. Have not had a chance to taste latest DaP. Entering the convergence where E'72 and May77 collide.

Trying to stay focused... My DaP1 vinyl is arriving on Mother's Day - woops...

Stay safe and have a fun 5/5!

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...number 1152 has landed, yesterday! A day earlier than predicted by UPS!

So far the Dire Wolf, Here Comes Sunshine, and that awesome jam after Let it Grow stand out for me. Someone commented that Jerry is really stretching out the lyrics in his singing Sugaree, that's for sure.

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I appreciate your time in replying to my post. I have found videos announcements going back to Dave's Picks #1. I do remember the 'unboxing' of Spring 90 video, but nothing before that.

Those videos have been made available for some time now, on the GD videos channel on Youtube.

Thank you again for your time.

Hope you have a nice day and your DaP 42 arrives today.

Regards.

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A drawing had various song lyrics intertwined into drawing

One set of lyrics said

Trouble ahead
Ttouble behind

I found that to be cool

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"Taking an elevator to a show" sounds like an implicit invitation to overdo the tah-kill-ya... Don't do anything I wouldn't do, Nappyrags!

Finally arrived at the last disc of St Louis box, said to be the killer in the box. That's tonight. Then I turn to DP 42.

Still pondering the imponderable: what kind of box has TPTB been cooking up?

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After learning that my order was “returned to sender” due to a “bad address,” I reached out to Rhino. A person named Dr. Rhino immediately responded and offered to send a replacement. 48 hours later, the USPS recognized their mistake and delivered the package. I wrote Dr. Rhino and told him to cancel the replacement. I share this post to say that Rhino didn’t mess up, but they were willing to fix the problem. I know that saying positive things about Rhino isn’t popular, but here we are.

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....one of the best aspects of this site, is connecting with like minded music loving folks.
Meeting up with Nappy tomorrow at the Los Lobos gig.
Looking very much forward to it.

Should be great, have fun.

One word of advice. if Nappy comes alone, you should be fine, however.. if he comes with his cat it's a set up and all bets are off. Were pretty sure that cat is responsible for some shady and unexplained occurances.

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"Still pondering the imponderable: what kind of box has TPTB been cooking up?"

Hello.

It's been a couple years I have been pondering what a birthday box would look like...

What birthday show of each member of the band would you like too see included in the box?

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I'll Bite

Phil
03/15/69
Hilton Hotel - San Francisco, CA

Bobby
10/16/81
Club Melk Weg - Amsterdam, Netherlands

Billy
05/07/89
Frost Amphitheater, Stanford University - Palo Alto, CA

Pigpen
With 9/8/73 being recently released... this was a tough one
09/08/91
Madison Square Garden - New York City, NY

Mickey
09/11/83
Santa Fe Downs - Santa Fe, NM

Jerry
08/01/73
Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ

Keith
07/19/89
Alpine Valley Music Theater - East Troy, WI

Donna
08/22/68
Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA

Tom - going with 3/19/77 knowing this show really should be released with the Winterland Spring 1977 Box Set.
03/19/77
Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
(honorable mention - 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY)

Bruce
11/23/73
County Coliseum - El Paso, TX

Vince
02/21/69
Dream Bowl - Vallejo, CA

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no email, no tracking, nothing, nada, but it arrived anyway. Just heard that usps will be upping the cost to mail letters and packages, what else is new.
Quaaludes, I remember reading or hearing about a show that someone gave Jerry some ludes, it did not go well.

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I'll only use shows that they played on. : Phil. 3/15/69. Black & White Ball S.F. PIG. Pen9/8/67. Eagles Auditorium WA. Bob. 10/16/74. Winterland, Bill. 5/7/70. MIT. Jerry. 8/1/73. N.J. Mickey. 9/11/81. Greek Theatre ( I was there, it was a killer show. They sang Mickey happy birthday before the show. Now that is a killer box set.

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This is addressed to ALL on this site. You guys and gals are the Best!! Somedays, my only laughs come from you. Keep it up, we all need to smile.
Hoping for a Da's 42 delivery this weekend!!

Music is the Best(Too)!!

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For Jerry's 31st birthday on 08/01/73 at Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City, NJ. I clearly recall a woman sitting on a man's shoulders at the lip of the stage handing a bday cake to a roadie while the band was on stage. I could see Jer smiling from 100 feet away. And that's pretty much my ONLY memory of that two-nighter with The Band, as it occurred mere days after the two-dayer at Watkins Glen. I was all of 15, but getting wiser by the day. Man, were we crisp.

Back to JimInMD on the upcoming box, with a nod to Vguy and Nappy gettin' crazy with Los Lobos. Wish I was there.

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Missed it by this much. Once it got rolling, 42 looked like it might get here ahead of schedule, then it sat for four days in GJ, was “supposed” to be here yesterday, PO has it now, so went, but hasn’t processed it. Anticipation, it’s making me wait!

FOURWINDS: nice to see you, fun box idea, I’ll bite:
VINCE: 73 or 91 whoops, sorry Vince!
PHIL: 73
TOM: 73, whooops, missed the 73 first time
BILLY: 89, or 78
KEITH: 89
JERRY: 73! Dark Star!
DONNA: 72
PIG: 91 Good Show
MICKEY: 73 Dark Star!
BOBBY: 74 or 81
BRENT: 73
BRUCE: 73

NAPPPY and VGUY: I smell trouble! Yes, I’m jealous!

JOSHOGORMAN: great news! Doc to the rescue again!

Glad most are enjoying the new tunes!

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just sayin

and thank you, Mr Ones

this is a place for my psyche to express itself and to hear from other crazies

y'all be cool

I like the way you think.. except some of these shows either were not recorded or the tapes do not exist (thinking 9/8/67, etc.). Don't give Rhino any ideas suggesting we might pay for a rare yet empty box set, they might go for it.

Proudfoot.. oh crap, I forgot Vince. So sorry, adding it now.

Mr. Ones, thank you, and right back at you.

PT Barnum, could it have been Valium instead? I recall reading a show where someone was giving them out backstage and Jerry jumped at the opportunity, downed a few and as it turns out he might have been allergic to Valium. 2/7/79?? Words of Wisdom from Jeff Spicoli, "People on ludes should not drive" (or play guitar and sing at the same time)

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