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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    First off, welcome back Dennis! I totally understand on the Charles Lloyd set. I did pick
    up the first “trio” CD (the one with Frisell), but haven’t had a chance to play it yet. Expectations are high. I don’t think the vinyl box set is limited issue (I don’t think), so no rush to get it yet. I didn’t realize until yesterday that Lloyd & Frisell played the Ottawa Jazz Festival this past weekend, which is only a 4 hour car hike from here, and would have been a great weekend trip for the wife and I. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs - next time(sorry for the hockey talk Dennis). PS - I have some albums by the “other” Bill Evans, the sax player (he has played with Hornsby) - he is a decent player. Tell me your impressions of the Miles album when you can.

    Sixtus/Oro - I was thinking another way to approach this “Which Artists” to listen to for piano jazz, since the lists everyone provided were really great, but perhaps overwhelming, is to approach it more organically, ie - the kneebone is connected to the shinbone etc. Start with a jazz artist you perhaps know, and see what side players he or she plays with. Who contributes to their sound? Or labels. Blue Note, a great jazz label for generations is a great one to start with. A great many recordings in the 50s & 60s on that label were produced by Rudy Van Gelder. Like all Producers, he had “go to” musicians he would call into the studio to back an artist. Tony Williams, drummer, is making a solo album, Van Gelder may call on a young Herbie Hancock, or Wayne Shorter, Joe Henderson etc. Next, Shorter is making an album, who backs him up? How about all the truly remarkable musicians Miles Davis worked with? Four of them became star keyboard players in their own right: Jarrett, Corea, Hancock, and Zawinul (who had a budding career with Cannonball Adderley).
    I always found in music in general, and jazz in particular, the kneebone is connected to the shinbone; you like “this”, you’ll definitely like “that”.

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    1st show and jingles

    I have an LP of Winston cigarette ads that were played on the radio. My father got this from somewhere, I was maybe 16. Still have.

  • Dennis
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    Don't forget Jeff Chimenti,,, who I think is better than Keith.

    Some mentioned Bill Evans piano player.

    I just got in my vinyl copy of Miles Davis Live - What it Is - Montreal 7/7/83. Reading the back cover and there is Bill Evans, only he's playing saxes and flutes. So I looked it up,,, it said this.....

    This double LP release features one of Miles Davis' final great bands: John Scofield on guitar, Bill “The Other Bill Evans” Evans on saxophones, flute and electric piano, Darryl Jones on bass, Al Foster on drums, and percussionist Mino Cinelu.

    So there are two Bills. I think one must have a goatee and be from the evil universe!

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    Can't talk piano players without mentioning Keith Godchaux, at one time one of the greatest piano players 9n Earth.

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    We have the same blessing/curse of remembering esoteric things like jingles. Every cigarette, beer, cereal, appliance, and car ad had a jingle. Now they just steal a song we all liked and now can't stand as they've ruined it for us. Really, "Everybody Damp Rid"? Or "All Right Now" for a drug I don't need? One of the favorite games my wife and I play is to jam together songs and jingles that have nothing to do with each other. You start with Red Red Robin and end up at the Woody Woodpecker theme then Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend or the Dick Van Dyke show. Likely because we can't remember the whole thing anyway. I think the advertisers in the 60's had evil intentions for our little spongy brains. I'm the youngest of three and the back seat of the car was where I might subject my sisters to hours long renditions of This Old Man. "Mom, make him stop!" Unfortunately an earworm can really screw up my day even now. So the cure is to just have music on all the time. Music is the best.
    Cheers

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    Only gone for 4 days I come back to 17 pages of "stuff"! (ok, once I stripped away hockey it was only a half page :-) )

    Too much to cover or comment on,,,,, but I try a little.

    That Mike - Chuck Lloyd, thanks for the heads up. Chuckie will be on back burner for now. 600 bucks for the 24 albums and a box set yet to come?!?! My wife's wallet does have limits!

    Springsteen,,,, ok I'm from Jersey, past that, Bruce appeared in my life at the right time I guess. His songs always speak to me of hope and the struggles of the working stiff.

    Disco - I was big on the disco ball. Back in the late seventies with Frankie Crocker on WBLS,,,, stereo in black. I believe you'd find a lot of recording technics came out of the that disco vein.

    Couple of unmentioned disco headphone songs,,,, Peter Brown - Do You Want to Get Funky with Me. CJ & Co - The Devil's Gun, or Santa Esmeralda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. GREAT, GREAT album of day and GREAT GREAT headphone album,,,, Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band!!!!

    Zappa,,, I keep buying his "stuff", I like a chunk, a chunk can be tedious. Sometimes GREAT ability does not translate to enjoyable. If you're a musician maybe you can be awed by technical, but if you're an idiot like me you can't tell he just played an augmented Major G in a diminished F. Also the twice I caught Frank he seemed to think he was doing you a favor by playing and you should be thankful he did!

    Jazz piano,,,, you read the list people posted and you like, oh yeah, him. I like when some said don't forget tatum and liberace. On the Oscar front, my buddy is a huge fan. Caught him whenever he played. He had an album called something like "for my friends". He had this one cut where he was playing song "a". Right hand carried the melody and left belting out rhythm. All of sudden left hand started playing a different song , "B". So now he's playing two songs at the same time. Notes from song "A" start walking down to the bass end, while song "B" starts walking to high end. The two hands cross each other while jamming out and poof, back to one song "A". I was wowed to say the least! :-)

    Charlie 3 - Ipanema (great tune). I used to go to this restaurant/coffee house/bar. They would have bands, small venue 20-30 people listening to this group. They started playing Ipanema and out of this crowd comes this woman steps up to the mike and starts sing the lyrics in Portuguese and she sounds exactly like the origial! Song ended and she went back and sat down. Blew the room away and I think the band!

    Mr Ones,,,, I pretty sure I have the motown hippo stuff

    Finally an incredible flash-back moment. Sorting thru the latest treasure trove of music I've recently received I stumbled across Miriam Makeba,,, name meant nothing to me. Wiki said she was the voice of Africa (or something like that). Sorted and filed all. I always listened to pieces of what I add to my collection so I have some idea of what's what. So it looked like a cut "pata pata" was her big hit. I put it on and my head exploded. I knew the song, but had not thought about it since it came out. I mean I had not THOUGHT at all about it, which is odd for me since I have almost every tune I know running thought my head at all time. Even the childhood ones I learned in 1st grade!! I don't think a month goes by when I don't find myself singing the Erie Canal! Trust me I've never navigated on it, but sing about once a month. :-) Commerical jingles always run though me,,,,, remember this one,,,, My beer is Reingold the dry beer, think of Reingold whenever you buy beer. It's refreshing, not sweet, it's the extra dry drink. Would try extra dry Reingold beer?

    Like Monk,,, it's a blessing,,,,,,,, and a curse! (mostly for the people that have to listen to me sing them :-) )

    Sorry for the ramble, but you did leave me 17 pages to comment on! (but no hockey comments thankfully)

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    Amazing piano solo on David Bowie's "Alladdin Sane". Decades ago, a mate of mine wrote to Mike Garson, asking for a transcription of the solo. Incredibly he got a reply. Not a transcription, though. If I remember rightly, Garson said he couldn't transcribe it if he tried. Hats off to him for replying though.

    Practising 4 hours a day for 15 years on any instrument is cheating. As the man said, we could all be good if we did that.

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    I'll go with the old school: Albert Ammons, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Willie "the Lion" Smith, Fats Waller.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Great, er, trip... Little Snake is seldom rafted, probably because it runs only for 4-6 weeks in spring, then becomes a sand box. Big 28 mile first day, 18 each on second and third days. Popped a well-stocked cap of psylocibin on first day and had time and the heart to reflect on my 20-year journey with my recently departed pal, Zoe. Was able to convert the blubbering grief into warm love and thanks to the universe for her companionship and sense of humor. Let's face it: I got lucky. What a time we had together. (Thanks to Crow and PT for your recent comments...)

Late on the first day we stopped at a grassy spot among endless high desert thorn trees at around 5pm, having done the planned 24 miles for the day. My buddy Rob insisted that we use the remaining daylight to go another 4.5 miles and break the back of the 64 miles we had to paddle on this trip. Of course, we shove off and, suddenly, 25-30 mph winds kick up and freezing rain falls and the river is all white caps and sea foam. At one point we had to hold onto shoreline willows to keep from being blown back upstream... Amazingly, we covered the 4.5 miles in just over an hour, hunched into the wind, digging in with our paddles. A real physical challenge but I managed a few maniacal laughs as the rain stung my face. We would not be denied. Man, the whiskey and Indica tasted good that night. Lots of bald eagles, vultures (my favorite), great blue herons, coyotes, elk, swimming deer, swallows, meadowlarks, redwing blackbirds. A spiritual renewal when needed most. We saw one human in 64 miles. The morning after the first day, we were loading the boats (inflatable pack rafts, 6-7 feet long, 3 feet wide -- try that in big water!), by an old antique ferry -- a single one-inch cable strung across 50 yards of fast moving water. The "box" was ancient and unsturdy and rolled on two wheels sitting atop the cable. We wondered how many years it had been since a person used it. Then a sheepherder arrives in a truck, climbs in and rolls 3/4 of the way across the river (he probably couldn't swim if he dropped into the drink) then uses a tool he carried to winch himself the rest of the way to the opposite shore, jumps out and waves to our cheers, jumps on a waiting ATV and rides off to work on the ranch on the opposite shore. Second day we encounter a four foot drop-off -- actually two within a half mile -- at a bridge over the river with standing waves as high as our heads and we did fine. Then a river-wide pour-off of similar stature, then camp before the wind killed us. Third day, we entered the river's lower gorge and joyfully rode the Class II rapids through a 7-8 mile gorge devoid of human traces. (Definitely going back to that gorge!) Anyway, we had a time of it, smoking doobies and hitting the flask. And just in time, as extreme winds hit Colorado yesterday and today south of Denver we're expecting a classic spring snowstorm. Tonight: playing blues with a few buddies who knew Zoe. A celebration of life, as it should be. Zoe's resting easy in a silk tapestry under a couple of paving stones in the back garden and I'm turning the page..... Shoulders still sore but I'm back home with my guitars and a real bed.

Margo Timmins - I have met her as well. She is awesome.

Regarding short people. About 10 years ago were were at a restaurant for my wife's birthday and Alec Baldwin walked in and sat two tables away from us. One of our friends says, "That is Alec Baldwin." Half of us disagreed because he was so small. It's well known how prickly he can be so nobody wanted to approach him and say, "Hello." Since it was my wife's birthday I offered to do it. I simply said that I will walk over there and say the following, "I'm sorry to interrupt your dinner Mr. Hassellhoff, but it is my wife's birthday and she would like to say Hello. Would that be O.K?"

She made us leave.

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Jack, you are right - all of Florida is learning Kucherov’s name. He is a remarkable talent. I expected more fight from the Panthers, but they could not get the inside of the offensive zone. Tampa Bay turned their amps up to 11.

HF - Welcome back, sounds like an absolutely awesome trip. Muscles tired in the best way possible, a humble run against nature, and some fine company and provisions to make it memorable.

I agree 100% on the feedback on this latest Stones live release, the El Mocambo (a fine club that has reopened again). They sound engaged, rested, revitalized with Ronnie on board, and despite Keef being in the throws of his smack habit, the musicianship is absolutely crackling. I’ve mentioned here before I knew a guy in high school that won a radio promo to see the opening band (April Wine), and he thought it was going to just be a night out, hear a half decent band, have some ales, enjoy. But then the Stones came on - sometimes, you are in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time! This release is up there with Ya Yas and Brussels for sheer quality.

VGuy - Gerard Gallant a finalist for Coach of the Year (actually, the kiss of death) > why was it the Knights dumped him again??? Kinda a Leaf move!

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It’s funny how many people recall meeting celebrities and comment on how they were shorter than expected. Besides Phil, the Dead was kinda like that the few times I was around them (not on stage).

DENNIS: nice! Hey, you know us, so, that and a dollar might get ya a up of coffee ; )

DEADMIKE: nice to see ya, hope your 42 comes soon! Think I have the poster you mention. I have it as part of a collage on about a 10’ by 20’ wall in our stairwell. The one with Phil sporting the SYF weed shirt and JG in pig tails? Think I got it back in the seventies in High School?

CROW: great story “ and I left her mad ass there by the side of the road”.

HF: sounds awesome! That’s the spirit, forward, never straight!

AJ: you shoulda just casually said “Hi Mr Hasslehoff as you passed by lol.
Hey, I told ya the AVs weren’t THAT good. Feeling it’s going to be a real series, gulp.
And if they do make it to the cup finals, boy yer right about Kucherov and the Bolts. It’s like they keep getting a little better the farther the go in the playoffs!

ISTSHOW: I know of what you speak. Worked “guest service” work for ten years: Golf resorts in the summer hotel Doorman, Bellman and Ski Valet in the winter. One of our favorite pastimes was mocking out clueless rich folk wearing the old one piece snow suits with un PC names I can’t repeat nowadays lol. For years folks had bumper stickers that read “Dick Chaney skis in jeans” (the ultimate insult at posh resorts) after his secret service guys abused and arrested some dude for simply shit talking him in Beaver Creek, Douche! I thought there was this thing called free speech?
Used to see the Fords a lot as they lived there, they were always nice. Later in life Jerry would sometimes do interviews on the deck/patio at our hotel, and his secret service guys would stay there when in town. We’d sometimes get to know the regular SS guys a little.
The Giffords used to live up here too. Guy I used to work with worked at their house a few times. Said Cathy Lee was usually nice and would usually just be hanging around the pool sipping cocktails. Frank came to the hotel once when I was doorman, asked where Tramonti restaurant was, I pointed and said right there (about 20’ through the small lobby under a prominent sign that said “Tramonti” lol.
First thing I learned about rich folks: many are pretty clueless as they’ve had everything done for them their whole lives. They always seemed to be losing everything: their skis, golf clubs, shoes, cars, you name it!
But generally I’ve found people come in two general classes: ones that give a shit, and assholes. All walks of life, social class, race, celebrities, you name it. After ten years of dealing with ALL kinds of folks, to me, that’s what it comes down to.

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It really was fun. I was never star-struck because they just look like normal folks. The townies are a whole different class from Mountain Village where the mega stars live. Some like Justin Leonard had skied there his whole life as his parents had a condo in town and later he did too. Saw him a lot in the summer as well, had to get out of Dallas! I think he still has a place in Mountain Village too and one in Aspen. You brought one to mind I'd forgotten. Treasury Secretary John Snow. I could tell when he was coming in because the guys in suits that talk to their wrists would precede him, always in pairs. NO ONE wears a suit in Telluride. He too wore the dorky ski clothes. Now Mr. Toll was anti-fashion. His outfit was a Hawaiian print wind shirt from the 70's or an ancient navy blue plain down parka. Salt of the earth dude. You would never know he was a big wheel in construction. Ralph Lauren very grounded too. Big ranch near Ridgway. He remembered me from shopping in Montrose years before which impressed me. I sold him white Levi's and a white denim Levi shirt for a BBQ he was throwing at the ranch. We would talk cars. He had supercars but my favorite was a '69 Mustang coupe, baby blue with a white vinyl top. Reminded me of my Mom's Mary Tyler Moore plain Jane '70 'stang only Ralph's had a 351 Cleveland and Carroll Shelby's signatures on the glove box and clear coated on the trunk edge. Ambassador Holbrook was a genius. He made me guess who he was as I had no clue. Took me weeks of 20 questions while he would be putting his gear on. Finally his wife had to give me a hint, said he worked in the government. He could speak extemporaneously for any length of time. Saw a 40 minute speech he gave to the U.N. on TV. His son said his notes for that were 4 bullet points on a 3x5 card.
For the hockey crowd, I worked with a guy who recently passed away who was Stan Mikita's cousin. He said Stan wasn't blood, had been adopted.
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Been there a few times, love it!
Stayed in Mountain Village first time there. My cousin and our buddy paid as they could afford it lol.
I wasn’t going to go (BG fest) but they talked me into it.
I went mostly to hike and pa-tah! as I did not have tix or credentials.
Climbed I believe it’s Gold peak (above Mnt Village?) and up past the mine and falls etc at the end of the box canyon? on whatever that Jeep road is that heads back to civilization? Sorry been at least 25 years? The night I hiked to the top of that, as I returned back down and into town I could hear Emmylou Harris playing just for me!
. We had a suite, but I slept on the balcony in my sleeping bag JK style. Amazing stars and meteors up there! Fa-king awesome! One of the best WE trips ever. Wish it wasn’t so far, but I guess that’s part of what makes it.
Never got to ski there but I was drooling the whole time I was hiking overlooking the back terrain etc.
it was always so cool to meet a wealthy person and/or celebs that were truly nice and down to earth! Hey they all put there pants on the same as us!

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To keep the crowds away from Telluride. Nearest airport of size is Montrose 65 miles away, 90 minute ride. Beds are only one third of the lift capacity and few regional day skiers. Three seasons and waited in a more than five minute lift line once at X-mas when I was foolish enough to go to The Village at lunchtime for an employee party.
Had to quit the commute even though double Montrose pay. I wore out a truck putting on100,000 miles in less than three years. Gas was almost as high as now and you don't get paid for drive time.
Oro you'd be making around $40/hr. there this year in the skilled construction trades.
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So, my wife and I met Barack Obama, pre-President era. We were in DC visiting a friend and he worked in government and got us Senate passes. This is 2005, the year he entered Congress. Usually when you go to a Senate hearing, there is one Senator talking to an empty chamber. This time there was actually a vote on a judge, so they were all there.

We stay for the vote and then go out on the steps and look out toward the mall and then toward the back, when we see him walking out. My wife was from Illinois and supported him really early in his primary-- we were super excited to see him and, who am I kidding, we followed him to the stop light where he is waiting to cross the street. My wife goes up to him, says she was an early supporter from Illinois and we all chatted on the street for a good couple of minutes. He was super nice, engaging, was definitely not short and has large hands.

My other celebrity meet was basketball legend Bob Lanier (though I met Bill Walton at Dead and Company a few years ago too, but haven't a lot of us). My first job was as a caddy at a suburban Milwaukee Country Club and then I worked in the bag room and pro shop for a couple summers. One time Bob Lanier (former Buck at the time) shows up late for a tee time and I drove him out to the 3rd hole in the golf cart.

PF - I really really dug that first Phil and Friends release and played it a lot, like a whole lot BITD. Been awhile and I need to listen to it anew. The solo by Kimock on Good Shepard is an absolutely exquisite and transcendent musical passage.

I was lucky to see P&F maybe 10-15 times in the intermountain west and some of those shows were every thing you could ask for. A forever peak moment in my live music experience was Blues For Allah at Red Rocks 2001 (the tasty sandwich - Eyes Of The World -> Lady With A Fan -> Blues For Allah -> Terrapin Station -> Comes A Time.)

If anyone is looking for very fine headphones to enhance your listening sessions, Grado is having a rare sale on discontinued stock. They even have the Hemp 420s that have been mentioned here and can be found at 4ourEars.

Enjoy the music...!

I'm a big Phil fan and try to see his bands when I can. Yes.. he's not a great singer, I think bobby joked at a show "tone deaf, has been for years, ha ha" perhaps SPAC 88?? ..but he keeps things fresh and has attracted some serious talent through the years. Great fun, get them while you can.

can't speak to the grados. just picked up over-the-ear Sennheiser 560S. Super comfortable, great sound, nice price. Highly recommend.

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9-12-90 is a great show and, hear me now … believe me later, space is a true highlight. I am human; I am not a robot.

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Don’t look … just go listen

Has arrived in Lowestoft. Top draw - back I go from 1977.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to come on here and found out that they are a robot.

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. . . Handsome Cabin Boy. . .

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I think you said that you were ordering a la carte this year. My subscription copy is still lost in space. Whatever happened to their new system of sending out the subscription copies first?
I expect mine might get here next week as the mail has been delivered today.

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Was on a road-biking trip in the Rockies in '82 and caught 3 nights of the "Annual Red Rocks Rain Out" (still one of my favorite Dead memories) ... managed a side trip down to Telluride and caught the Jazz Festival ... was so broke, managed to work security for those shows (got paid $25/night) ... what I recall most was the incredible sound bouncing off the mountains ... had a thunder & lightning show to go with the music and it was all incredible. Didn't catch the boys a few years later (87?) being a west coaster, and have always wanted to go back .... last year, 39 years later, my wife and I took a trip out (what beautiful country, BTW) and I stood on that exact same spot. The city has changed quite a bit but I will repeat, it is incredibly beautiful country. I managed a hike up to the power plant at the top of Bridal Veil this go around and made it back to the hotel at the base of the gondola reasonably intact. It ain't cheap, but not much is anymore!!

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At the base of the gondola? That's the building I worked in for winters, the main T-Sports on Main St. (Colo. Ave.) in the summer. Your comment on the sound too. It has that ampitheatre effect. The disc golf course used to wrap around behind the stage. Got to hear Herbie Hancock (2006?) do his jazz fest sound check while playing at lunchtime at work. Vein Melter while teeing off by the falls. Priceless.
The power plant at Bridal Veil falls was George Westinghouse's first attempt at AC power lighting a whole town. He and Tesla are still celebrated with a burning man sort of thing every year. Edison hated those guys as he was invested in DC power and would do demonstrations to show AC can kill you.
Bluegrass fest is still my favorite. I passed on the '87 Dead shows too as I was living on the Front Range then. What a fool I was!
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Colin - yes, I'm not too proud to say I have gone a la carte, so I don't know what's happened there. I didn't hang about before ordering, but then I shouldn't think any of us a la carte folk do. Maybe they feel guilty about not including the bonus disc.
I was surprised looking at the others I have that the last one I ordered was number 38. Presumably the last three have been 1976 and beyond.
I've only had chance to play about half the first cd so far, but what I have heard I have liked. Nice to hear "Here Comes Sunshine" - not a song that crops up too often in 1974 shows.

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40 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre for the start of another great run with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. 1982 had some great shows at some great venues, Greek ,Frost, Ventura , Warfield, and end of the year Oakland Auditorium shows. Time to start releasing some of these great shows , as box sets or stand alone releases.

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Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Tom Constantin, Micky Hart, Bill Graham, Paul Kantner, Carlos Santana, Robert Hunter, John Barlow, John Cipollina, Merle Saunders, Peter Albin, Pete Sears, Spencer Dryden, John Molo, Jackson Brown, Candace Brightman, Dan Healy, Stanley Mouse, Alton Kelly, Rick Griffin, Len Dell 'Amico, Justin Kreutzman, Jerilyn Brandelious, Allen Cohen, Wavy Gravy, David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Jay Blakesberg, Tony Brown, Les Kippel, Paul Grushkin, Rebecca Adams, Dave Margen, Judy Dench, and San Francisco Mayors Gavin Newsom, Ed Lee and London Breed.

Some I interviewed for my community access tv show, some I worked for briefly, some I count as friends, some I just met briefly, and the Mayors I worked for as one of the video professionals working for SF City Hall.

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I bought 3 on subscription- one for me, one for a friend and one as a spare if one didn’t arrive (I’ve had a bad experience previously with copies not arriving) which I give away. So far two copies came together over a week ago but no sign of the other.

Billy I was there for that too...mighty fine and I've always been partial to the short but sweet 2nd set from 5/21.......I had my parrot mask and had a great time...

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Uncle John's Band ->
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Playing In The Band ->
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I bought Sandinista when it was released (81?) and listened to it _a lot_. Including during 1982.

5 21 82 was two months before my first show, but I had 5 21 on cassette almost immediately. A mighty fine show, indeed.

1982 was the Clash's Combat Rock. I was rather dismissive of it at the time, but I listen to it occasionally and dig it.

Exactly right where we stayed last Sept!! I'd forgotten about the frisbee golf that we all played back in those days ... I still have the original newspaper Jazz Festival artwork & lineups from 82 .... was so broke, the only souvenir I could afford was a leftover t-shirt from the BlueGrass festival that had run a few weeks prior!! Also, was roughing it back in those days and slept on the second floor of a building across from the New Sheridan that was then under construction, affording some modicum of shelter from the very regular rain! (I think it's the Miramonte professional building at 333). Great memories for sure....tc

I was right there with ya ... hit most of the west coast shows from my LA home 40 years ago ... Greek, Ventura, Frost, Irvine Meadows for sure .... Oakland Aud or SF Civic for NYE ... and toss in the somewhat random shows like the US Festival ... had alot more freedom in those days and am happy to have had the opportunity experience the boys 50+ times ....

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40 years ago today, along with Topchinacat Nappyrags and a lot of other great people on this forum, I was at the Greek Theatre for another great day with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. 1979 to 1985 was a great time to be seeing the Grateful Dead, they were playing at so many cool venues. The Grateful Dead were just as cool to see in the 1990s, 1980s, 1970s,or 1960s, it was one swinging party no matter what decade you saw them in . These Greek shows are well played and there are great soundboards , I think it's time for a Greek Box set.

....TPTB may be more receptive if we all said "pretty" please.
Seriously though. They played some all time heaters @ The Greek.
Insert obligatory Darth Sidious do it gif here.

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So drifting and dreaming sometimes while listening I’ll get on some line of thought that ends up with me wasting half a day with Deadbase, Geek!
So my latest adventure looked at what might be good shows to be used as the bonus material for the 50th reissues. i.e., American Beauty was 2/18/71.
Some are easy, others not so much? Caveat: I’ve not listened to all these shows yet, but am mostly going by how many songs from the corresponding album were played.

- WOTF: 6 Songs from the album were played on 9/15/73 or 9/17/73. 5 Songs 9/12/73. 9/11/73 only has 4 songs off the album, but it’s got a DS.

- MARS HOTEL: 4 songs plus Roses 7/25/74 (DS) or 6/20/74
- ALLAH: 6 Songs 6/17/75
- TERRAPIN: gets harder? 4 songs including Terrapin 3/19/77 or 4/22/77 which has first Mojo. 10/7/77 has 4, but some has been released. 3/18/77 has 3, but the only Alahambra and first Fire.
- SHAKEDOWN: 7 songs 11/24/78 or 1/17/79. 6 Songs 12/17/78 or 12/30/78. Several good ones with 5 songs.
GO TO HEAVEN: 7 songs 5/1/80, 5/14/80, 6/5/80, or 6/29/80. 6 Songs 5/10, 5/29, 5/31, 6/7, and 9/6/80.
IN THE DARK: 6 Songs 8/22/87. 5 Songs 4/11/87, 7/2/87 or 9/20/87.
BUILT TO LAST: even though they regularly played all of the nine songs on this album, they only played 5 songs once, on 2/7/89. 4 Songs on 5/6/90 or 6/24/90 (shows all 3 sang on). 10/19/89 has 3 but a Death Don’t.
READY OR NOT: does this one get a bonus disc?

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Very nice piece of research Oroborous! Hmmmm. . . I wonder. . . Providence, Syracuse . . .

Back when the 50th Annivs started rolling out, I remember thinking WOTF was a long time away. Now we're almost there!

Maybe they will sneak an anniversary version of this one out, too. I believe the original album came out in 1973 - although the shows featured were 1970. They could make a great couple of bonus discs from what has gone unreleased from the Fillmore East February 1970 run. No need to include songs already on Bears Choice, though.

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The ONLY way to rightfully celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Wake Of The Flood is to Norman 2/9/73.

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There, fixed it for you.........

So, I'm thinking (yes, it happens!) that we'll have to wait for after the sales rush for the Lyceum vinyl set to hear about a 2022 box(ed) set. That's okay. I'm hoping it's something primal (1969) or something I don't need (post-76).

Meanwhile, speculation on 50th anniversaries in the future run rampant. Go Watkins Glen! Or 6-10-73, the one I missed by "that much."

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nice from topcityvibe.com

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40 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre, along with several other forum members, to see the Good Ole Grateful Dead wrap up another great run at the Greek Theatre. Fun times! Hopefully, a box set will come out of this run of shows, put it together with the 1981 Greek run, which was my favorite year at the Greek, and you would have a fantastic box set.

and also 6/10/73 and Watkins Glen, HF

and Greek 82, BTK. I listened to first set of 5/22/82 yesterday. I smiled. I really wish the recordings had more PHIL. but I will take what I can get.

more LPs? Cmon GD, I need CDs. My car doesn't have a turntable

I'd be really curious as to how that sells. I certainly have no feeling for the vinyl market. I do like how vinyl sounds, but the thought of investing in a good turntable and then ... what? Start buying LPs at ~$25 per record when CDs ruled for nearly 40 years, including here at my house? And trade 80 minutes per disc for 20-22 minutes a side?

I'm glad for those folks who do it all and I've benefitted from CDs made from needle drops on pristine vinyl, but $550 for the Lyceum run that I've had for 10+ years? What this tells me is that I'm an aging dinosaur who doesn't get hatchets, earrings, coasters, vinyl, etc. And I'm okay with that.

There was the E72 trunk (~$700 if I recall correctly) and the 30 Trips (also ~$700) and now the Lyceum vinyl. While the past few annual boxes have come in closer to $200. The sweet spot seems to be ~$10 per disc. And I'd guess that's probably this year's CD box(ed) set: 20 CDs at ~$200. Dave did say he proposed last year's box without the (2) '71 shows and Rhino bumped it up to 20 CDs.

With all these tangential products, I really wonder if they'll get the rest of the '68 tapes out of the vault someday, like while I can still hear what's coming out of the speakers.

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Hendrixfreak,

Pre order price on the E72 box set was $450. A crazy bargain, when you think about it now. Paid a lot more for mine last year.

Hey. 50th Anniversary's are great and yes, I am with you, not going down the vinyl road at this point either.
I would just like to see more music released. I think the demand is still there. Already talking 2023 releases when we haven't even got to June yet, hope we continue to get some announcements for new 2022 releases and not more shorts or socks.

Billy thanks for your calling out each California show anniversary. I really enjoy traipsing down memory lane with you when you bring these past shows to my attention. We must have been rubbing shoulders, I've been to every show you have mentioned. What fun we had!

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Yes, DV, I knew I had my numbers wrong. That trunk WAS the biggest bargain at $450 for 73 discs. 30 Trips was more traditionally priced at $700 for 80 discs.

I don't mind $10 a disc in a nice box with a booklet and art. I don't need the actual boxes (think PNW '73-'74) although I really dug the NW native art and, frankly, am bored by the cliched skeletons. I think I read that Jerry wasn't a huge fan of the skeleton motifs. I mean, sure, use it once for Skullfuck, but after that we didn't need more. I digress.

Yes, looking forward to 2022 box news and, of course, two more DaPs, though not excited for 80s-90s cassettes or whatever non-reel media they used.

Huh, I think I sound a tad bitchy! Might as well get back to chopping and bundling the tree limbs that came down here last Saturday, as 87 degrees plunged to 30 degrees and cement snow fell in quantity, then per the usual was gone in a half-day. Moisture in any form is good here on the high plains. Now just babbling mindlessly: my specialty.

One happy accident with the revival of vinyl is that I never got rid of the the original records I bought between the end of 1971 and about 1990. I stored them all in the attic, but never thought I would ever actually play them again. So it's good fun digging these old records out, and playing them again. Cds were marketed as an upgrade on vinyl initially. Now vinyl is being marketed as an upgrade on cds!

Whereas some people at the end of the 80's looked forward to hearing albums like Europe72- and especially Live Dead- on cd, now some of us are looking forward to hearing the same albums on vinyl again. Get it on vinyl, then cassette, then cd, then a digitally remastered cd, then a super deluxe cd with bonus discs and then on vinyl again. 180 grams a speciality.

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The latest push for the Lyceum vinyl with lots of historical context.
But there were hints of upcoming releases if only I spoke Dave.
Anyone else glean anything from that?
Cheers.

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