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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    Soooo....

    ....have any of you heard of Goose? Deep topic in my reddit feeds.

  • Vguy72
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    So, I stumbled across J.J. Cale today....

    ....be right back. Gotta listen to more of this guy. Has he been mentioned here before? If not, that's a damn shame.
    Piano players you say? That Page McConnell guy from that band from Vermont is pretty good. ✌️

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    Jazz Piano

    Try The Giovanni Guidi Trio for some fine Italian piano based jazz. The City of Broken Dreams and This is the Day are well worth listening to...enjoying all the jazz talk!

  • nitecat
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    Good old grateful podcast - Europe 72

    I have been listening to this podcast from it's first season. Currently it is covering the Europe 72 tour, show by show, venue by venue, days off adventures, with marvelous interviews with those of the 42 person entourage who were literally 'on the bus'. Wonderful stories abound, including great backstories of the new songs that made it to the official Europe 72 LP. Today I heard a great breakdown of all the characters referred to in Ramble on Rose, and the history of Morning Dew.

    This podcast is making me consider going through the trunk again, this time just enjoying all the long jams.

    PS Really enjoy all the discussion of Jazz masters. McCoy Tyner is one of my faves-seen him several times at Yoshies in Oakland. He used to play two week stands there right around my birthday. I would have a small birthday gathering of friends there, eating sushi, then we'd all go see the show. One time my friend passed him a note, and McCoy announced my name and it was my birthday! Sweet memories!

    Someone on this forum mentioned Charles Mingus at Carnegie Hall a few months ago. I picked it up, nice mellow jazz, with a great pianist, Don Pullen. I really enjoy this and now I'm considering some of the other recommendations from you jazzy folk! Thanks for the great conversation.

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    Yo Dave

    Where are you???

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    A Couple Of Specifics...

    for Oro. Maybe already mentioned under the solo smooth background category.
    George Winston - my personal favorite is his Linus & Lucy, The Music of Vince Guaraldi (a S.F. guy) who we all probably know subconsciously as he wrote Charlie Brown TV specials music.
    - also his Forest release.
    - any duet with Gary Burton (vibes) and Chick Corea.
    Cheers

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    more piano jazz

    others that might not have already been noted:

    Kenny Barron, Paul Bley, Bill Charlap, Red Garland, Errol Garner, Fred Hersch, Steve Kuhn, Mulgrew Miller, Marcus Roberts

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    piano and vibes

    am so far behind responding to content, blocked by some kind of captcha issue, will try to add something worthwhile after reviewing almost three weeks of posts, distill as much as possible...

    First unfinished business, HF, my most sincere condolences on your recent loss. That is about where i fell off the bus.

    Love all the recent input on various music, where to start, many great players already noted.

    Am a big fan of Bobby Hutcherson on vibes.

    Very fortunate to see/hear in person: Keith Jarrett, Chick Corea, McCoy Tyner, Brad Mehldau, Otis Spahn. Will add a few slightly under the radar others soon. Piano is among the most difficult instruments to reproduce in full glory, even the best recordings, so its worth it to make the effort to hear a virtuoso play a great instrument. If you enjoy barrel house, check out Champion Jack Dupree.

    Zappa is an acquired taste for some, quirky, brilliant. Back in the day, typically found the MoI too goofy, but Hots Rats hooked me into checking everything else out since. I particularly enjoy the first cut on his 1988 Guitar release, a great blues/rock riff oddly titled, "Sexual Harassment in the Workplace". It just burns so hot.

    Have a part time summer job, where I recently came to know a Jamaican guy who is up just for the summer to earn money for family. We are discussing Reggae music, some of the less well known artists. Yet another influence for our favorite band. Made me dig out stuff not heard forever, brother worked for a Reggae music company, ample stuff here. There's a jam guy known as the Mad Professor, music only, no lyrics. Burning Spear is on a farewell tour and will be playing in Boston at the HoB August 5th. For a vague attempt at relating any content to sports, the HoB is located just the other side of the Green Monster, that's right, next to Fenway.

    cheers

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    Winifred Atwell

    My very first album, which I had forgotten about till this discussion on piano players, was "The World of Winifred Atwell", which my parents bought for me when I was about 10. Who she was, I know not. I think my parents had a 78 with her on which I liked. Solo rag time from what I can remember. I have just had a shufty in the attic to see if it's hidden away up there - but no luck so far. "James Last Goes Pop" - yes - but so far - no Winnie.

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    Murphy’s #$)(*=$ing law!

    Wow, what an awesome outpouring of good vibes and great tunes!
    We’ve hit some major references for Motown to Soul, to Soul Jazz to Jazz.
    My pea brain is gonna explode lol.

    But wouldn’t cha know, I really need to get some work done before “I take a short break” , so Murphy’s Law: so much to digest and discuss here but I don’t have time. But I will go through asap and reply to all the kind folks who made such great suggestions. Thanks to all, I don’t care what anyone says you guys are awright!

    Good to see Dennis, thought maybe he traded some of his collection for Stanley cup tix and was still on the road somewhere ; ) Please apologize to the wife for us as I’m sure the following pages will equal her CC getting hot thanks to us lol.

    HF: great story! Keep ‘em coming!

    MIKE: yeah lol, I am I a little overwhelmed, but in a good way!
    Not to sound ungrateful but I knew OF many of these folks, but was hoping perhaps folks could suggest the best or their favorite albums from some of these artists? Narrow down the focus for me. I recognize some of the fine suggestions from research I’ve done, like “the top 50 greatest must have albums” etc, but it’s always nice getting first hand reports from good folks in the know!

    It’ll probably take me a couple days to have proper time, but I’ll go through and make a list and poke around, and come back with some more specific questions.
    But “I gotta get down, to the miiiiiinnnnneeeee” hup, hup, nothing too it but to do it!
    Thanks all, great stuff lately!

    Hoping Mr Jimmies absence is due to just being busy doing more productive and enjoyable things and not hung up on too much “adult” BS! We miss you, your silence is deafening.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Great, er, trip... Little Snake is seldom rafted, probably because it runs only for 4-6 weeks in spring, then becomes a sand box. Big 28 mile first day, 18 each on second and third days. Popped a well-stocked cap of psylocibin on first day and had time and the heart to reflect on my 20-year journey with my recently departed pal, Zoe. Was able to convert the blubbering grief into warm love and thanks to the universe for her companionship and sense of humor. Let's face it: I got lucky. What a time we had together. (Thanks to Crow and PT for your recent comments...)

Late on the first day we stopped at a grassy spot among endless high desert thorn trees at around 5pm, having done the planned 24 miles for the day. My buddy Rob insisted that we use the remaining daylight to go another 4.5 miles and break the back of the 64 miles we had to paddle on this trip. Of course, we shove off and, suddenly, 25-30 mph winds kick up and freezing rain falls and the river is all white caps and sea foam. At one point we had to hold onto shoreline willows to keep from being blown back upstream... Amazingly, we covered the 4.5 miles in just over an hour, hunched into the wind, digging in with our paddles. A real physical challenge but I managed a few maniacal laughs as the rain stung my face. We would not be denied. Man, the whiskey and Indica tasted good that night. Lots of bald eagles, vultures (my favorite), great blue herons, coyotes, elk, swimming deer, swallows, meadowlarks, redwing blackbirds. A spiritual renewal when needed most. We saw one human in 64 miles. The morning after the first day, we were loading the boats (inflatable pack rafts, 6-7 feet long, 3 feet wide -- try that in big water!), by an old antique ferry -- a single one-inch cable strung across 50 yards of fast moving water. The "box" was ancient and unsturdy and rolled on two wheels sitting atop the cable. We wondered how many years it had been since a person used it. Then a sheepherder arrives in a truck, climbs in and rolls 3/4 of the way across the river (he probably couldn't swim if he dropped into the drink) then uses a tool he carried to winch himself the rest of the way to the opposite shore, jumps out and waves to our cheers, jumps on a waiting ATV and rides off to work on the ranch on the opposite shore. Second day we encounter a four foot drop-off -- actually two within a half mile -- at a bridge over the river with standing waves as high as our heads and we did fine. Then a river-wide pour-off of similar stature, then camp before the wind killed us. Third day, we entered the river's lower gorge and joyfully rode the Class II rapids through a 7-8 mile gorge devoid of human traces. (Definitely going back to that gorge!) Anyway, we had a time of it, smoking doobies and hitting the flask. And just in time, as extreme winds hit Colorado yesterday and today south of Denver we're expecting a classic spring snowstorm. Tonight: playing blues with a few buddies who knew Zoe. A celebration of life, as it should be. Zoe's resting easy in a silk tapestry under a couple of paving stones in the back garden and I'm turning the page..... Shoulders still sore but I'm back home with my guitars and a real bed.

Margo Timmins - I have met her as well. She is awesome.

Regarding short people. About 10 years ago were were at a restaurant for my wife's birthday and Alec Baldwin walked in and sat two tables away from us. One of our friends says, "That is Alec Baldwin." Half of us disagreed because he was so small. It's well known how prickly he can be so nobody wanted to approach him and say, "Hello." Since it was my wife's birthday I offered to do it. I simply said that I will walk over there and say the following, "I'm sorry to interrupt your dinner Mr. Hassellhoff, but it is my wife's birthday and she would like to say Hello. Would that be O.K?"

She made us leave.

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Jack, you are right - all of Florida is learning Kucherov’s name. He is a remarkable talent. I expected more fight from the Panthers, but they could not get the inside of the offensive zone. Tampa Bay turned their amps up to 11.

HF - Welcome back, sounds like an absolutely awesome trip. Muscles tired in the best way possible, a humble run against nature, and some fine company and provisions to make it memorable.

I agree 100% on the feedback on this latest Stones live release, the El Mocambo (a fine club that has reopened again). They sound engaged, rested, revitalized with Ronnie on board, and despite Keef being in the throws of his smack habit, the musicianship is absolutely crackling. I’ve mentioned here before I knew a guy in high school that won a radio promo to see the opening band (April Wine), and he thought it was going to just be a night out, hear a half decent band, have some ales, enjoy. But then the Stones came on - sometimes, you are in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time! This release is up there with Ya Yas and Brussels for sheer quality.

VGuy - Gerard Gallant a finalist for Coach of the Year (actually, the kiss of death) > why was it the Knights dumped him again??? Kinda a Leaf move!

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It’s funny how many people recall meeting celebrities and comment on how they were shorter than expected. Besides Phil, the Dead was kinda like that the few times I was around them (not on stage).

DENNIS: nice! Hey, you know us, so, that and a dollar might get ya a up of coffee ; )

DEADMIKE: nice to see ya, hope your 42 comes soon! Think I have the poster you mention. I have it as part of a collage on about a 10’ by 20’ wall in our stairwell. The one with Phil sporting the SYF weed shirt and JG in pig tails? Think I got it back in the seventies in High School?

CROW: great story “ and I left her mad ass there by the side of the road”.

HF: sounds awesome! That’s the spirit, forward, never straight!

AJ: you shoulda just casually said “Hi Mr Hasslehoff as you passed by lol.
Hey, I told ya the AVs weren’t THAT good. Feeling it’s going to be a real series, gulp.
And if they do make it to the cup finals, boy yer right about Kucherov and the Bolts. It’s like they keep getting a little better the farther the go in the playoffs!

ISTSHOW: I know of what you speak. Worked “guest service” work for ten years: Golf resorts in the summer hotel Doorman, Bellman and Ski Valet in the winter. One of our favorite pastimes was mocking out clueless rich folk wearing the old one piece snow suits with un PC names I can’t repeat nowadays lol. For years folks had bumper stickers that read “Dick Chaney skis in jeans” (the ultimate insult at posh resorts) after his secret service guys abused and arrested some dude for simply shit talking him in Beaver Creek, Douche! I thought there was this thing called free speech?
Used to see the Fords a lot as they lived there, they were always nice. Later in life Jerry would sometimes do interviews on the deck/patio at our hotel, and his secret service guys would stay there when in town. We’d sometimes get to know the regular SS guys a little.
The Giffords used to live up here too. Guy I used to work with worked at their house a few times. Said Cathy Lee was usually nice and would usually just be hanging around the pool sipping cocktails. Frank came to the hotel once when I was doorman, asked where Tramonti restaurant was, I pointed and said right there (about 20’ through the small lobby under a prominent sign that said “Tramonti” lol.
First thing I learned about rich folks: many are pretty clueless as they’ve had everything done for them their whole lives. They always seemed to be losing everything: their skis, golf clubs, shoes, cars, you name it!
But generally I’ve found people come in two general classes: ones that give a shit, and assholes. All walks of life, social class, race, celebrities, you name it. After ten years of dealing with ALL kinds of folks, to me, that’s what it comes down to.

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It really was fun. I was never star-struck because they just look like normal folks. The townies are a whole different class from Mountain Village where the mega stars live. Some like Justin Leonard had skied there his whole life as his parents had a condo in town and later he did too. Saw him a lot in the summer as well, had to get out of Dallas! I think he still has a place in Mountain Village too and one in Aspen. You brought one to mind I'd forgotten. Treasury Secretary John Snow. I could tell when he was coming in because the guys in suits that talk to their wrists would precede him, always in pairs. NO ONE wears a suit in Telluride. He too wore the dorky ski clothes. Now Mr. Toll was anti-fashion. His outfit was a Hawaiian print wind shirt from the 70's or an ancient navy blue plain down parka. Salt of the earth dude. You would never know he was a big wheel in construction. Ralph Lauren very grounded too. Big ranch near Ridgway. He remembered me from shopping in Montrose years before which impressed me. I sold him white Levi's and a white denim Levi shirt for a BBQ he was throwing at the ranch. We would talk cars. He had supercars but my favorite was a '69 Mustang coupe, baby blue with a white vinyl top. Reminded me of my Mom's Mary Tyler Moore plain Jane '70 'stang only Ralph's had a 351 Cleveland and Carroll Shelby's signatures on the glove box and clear coated on the trunk edge. Ambassador Holbrook was a genius. He made me guess who he was as I had no clue. Took me weeks of 20 questions while he would be putting his gear on. Finally his wife had to give me a hint, said he worked in the government. He could speak extemporaneously for any length of time. Saw a 40 minute speech he gave to the U.N. on TV. His son said his notes for that were 4 bullet points on a 3x5 card.
For the hockey crowd, I worked with a guy who recently passed away who was Stan Mikita's cousin. He said Stan wasn't blood, had been adopted.
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Been there a few times, love it!
Stayed in Mountain Village first time there. My cousin and our buddy paid as they could afford it lol.
I wasn’t going to go (BG fest) but they talked me into it.
I went mostly to hike and pa-tah! as I did not have tix or credentials.
Climbed I believe it’s Gold peak (above Mnt Village?) and up past the mine and falls etc at the end of the box canyon? on whatever that Jeep road is that heads back to civilization? Sorry been at least 25 years? The night I hiked to the top of that, as I returned back down and into town I could hear Emmylou Harris playing just for me!
. We had a suite, but I slept on the balcony in my sleeping bag JK style. Amazing stars and meteors up there! Fa-king awesome! One of the best WE trips ever. Wish it wasn’t so far, but I guess that’s part of what makes it.
Never got to ski there but I was drooling the whole time I was hiking overlooking the back terrain etc.
it was always so cool to meet a wealthy person and/or celebs that were truly nice and down to earth! Hey they all put there pants on the same as us!

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To keep the crowds away from Telluride. Nearest airport of size is Montrose 65 miles away, 90 minute ride. Beds are only one third of the lift capacity and few regional day skiers. Three seasons and waited in a more than five minute lift line once at X-mas when I was foolish enough to go to The Village at lunchtime for an employee party.
Had to quit the commute even though double Montrose pay. I wore out a truck putting on100,000 miles in less than three years. Gas was almost as high as now and you don't get paid for drive time.
Oro you'd be making around $40/hr. there this year in the skilled construction trades.
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So, my wife and I met Barack Obama, pre-President era. We were in DC visiting a friend and he worked in government and got us Senate passes. This is 2005, the year he entered Congress. Usually when you go to a Senate hearing, there is one Senator talking to an empty chamber. This time there was actually a vote on a judge, so they were all there.

We stay for the vote and then go out on the steps and look out toward the mall and then toward the back, when we see him walking out. My wife was from Illinois and supported him really early in his primary-- we were super excited to see him and, who am I kidding, we followed him to the stop light where he is waiting to cross the street. My wife goes up to him, says she was an early supporter from Illinois and we all chatted on the street for a good couple of minutes. He was super nice, engaging, was definitely not short and has large hands.

My other celebrity meet was basketball legend Bob Lanier (though I met Bill Walton at Dead and Company a few years ago too, but haven't a lot of us). My first job was as a caddy at a suburban Milwaukee Country Club and then I worked in the bag room and pro shop for a couple summers. One time Bob Lanier (former Buck at the time) shows up late for a tee time and I drove him out to the 3rd hole in the golf cart.

PF - I really really dug that first Phil and Friends release and played it a lot, like a whole lot BITD. Been awhile and I need to listen to it anew. The solo by Kimock on Good Shepard is an absolutely exquisite and transcendent musical passage.

I was lucky to see P&F maybe 10-15 times in the intermountain west and some of those shows were every thing you could ask for. A forever peak moment in my live music experience was Blues For Allah at Red Rocks 2001 (the tasty sandwich - Eyes Of The World -> Lady With A Fan -> Blues For Allah -> Terrapin Station -> Comes A Time.)

If anyone is looking for very fine headphones to enhance your listening sessions, Grado is having a rare sale on discontinued stock. They even have the Hemp 420s that have been mentioned here and can be found at 4ourEars.

Enjoy the music...!

I'm a big Phil fan and try to see his bands when I can. Yes.. he's not a great singer, I think bobby joked at a show "tone deaf, has been for years, ha ha" perhaps SPAC 88?? ..but he keeps things fresh and has attracted some serious talent through the years. Great fun, get them while you can.

can't speak to the grados. just picked up over-the-ear Sennheiser 560S. Super comfortable, great sound, nice price. Highly recommend.

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9-12-90 is a great show and, hear me now … believe me later, space is a true highlight. I am human; I am not a robot.

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Don’t look … just go listen

Has arrived in Lowestoft. Top draw - back I go from 1977.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to come on here and found out that they are a robot.

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. . . Handsome Cabin Boy. . .

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DAVEROCK

I think you said that you were ordering a la carte this year. My subscription copy is still lost in space. Whatever happened to their new system of sending out the subscription copies first?
I expect mine might get here next week as the mail has been delivered today.

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Was on a road-biking trip in the Rockies in '82 and caught 3 nights of the "Annual Red Rocks Rain Out" (still one of my favorite Dead memories) ... managed a side trip down to Telluride and caught the Jazz Festival ... was so broke, managed to work security for those shows (got paid $25/night) ... what I recall most was the incredible sound bouncing off the mountains ... had a thunder & lightning show to go with the music and it was all incredible. Didn't catch the boys a few years later (87?) being a west coaster, and have always wanted to go back .... last year, 39 years later, my wife and I took a trip out (what beautiful country, BTW) and I stood on that exact same spot. The city has changed quite a bit but I will repeat, it is incredibly beautiful country. I managed a hike up to the power plant at the top of Bridal Veil this go around and made it back to the hotel at the base of the gondola reasonably intact. It ain't cheap, but not much is anymore!!

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At the base of the gondola? That's the building I worked in for winters, the main T-Sports on Main St. (Colo. Ave.) in the summer. Your comment on the sound too. It has that ampitheatre effect. The disc golf course used to wrap around behind the stage. Got to hear Herbie Hancock (2006?) do his jazz fest sound check while playing at lunchtime at work. Vein Melter while teeing off by the falls. Priceless.
The power plant at Bridal Veil falls was George Westinghouse's first attempt at AC power lighting a whole town. He and Tesla are still celebrated with a burning man sort of thing every year. Edison hated those guys as he was invested in DC power and would do demonstrations to show AC can kill you.
Bluegrass fest is still my favorite. I passed on the '87 Dead shows too as I was living on the Front Range then. What a fool I was!
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Colin - yes, I'm not too proud to say I have gone a la carte, so I don't know what's happened there. I didn't hang about before ordering, but then I shouldn't think any of us a la carte folk do. Maybe they feel guilty about not including the bonus disc.
I was surprised looking at the others I have that the last one I ordered was number 38. Presumably the last three have been 1976 and beyond.
I've only had chance to play about half the first cd so far, but what I have heard I have liked. Nice to hear "Here Comes Sunshine" - not a song that crops up too often in 1974 shows.

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40 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre for the start of another great run with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. 1982 had some great shows at some great venues, Greek ,Frost, Ventura , Warfield, and end of the year Oakland Auditorium shows. Time to start releasing some of these great shows , as box sets or stand alone releases.

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Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Tom Constantin, Micky Hart, Bill Graham, Paul Kantner, Carlos Santana, Robert Hunter, John Barlow, John Cipollina, Merle Saunders, Peter Albin, Pete Sears, Spencer Dryden, John Molo, Jackson Brown, Candace Brightman, Dan Healy, Stanley Mouse, Alton Kelly, Rick Griffin, Len Dell 'Amico, Justin Kreutzman, Jerilyn Brandelious, Allen Cohen, Wavy Gravy, David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Jay Blakesberg, Tony Brown, Les Kippel, Paul Grushkin, Rebecca Adams, Dave Margen, Judy Dench, and San Francisco Mayors Gavin Newsom, Ed Lee and London Breed.

Some I interviewed for my community access tv show, some I worked for briefly, some I count as friends, some I just met briefly, and the Mayors I worked for as one of the video professionals working for SF City Hall.

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I bought 3 on subscription- one for me, one for a friend and one as a spare if one didn’t arrive (I’ve had a bad experience previously with copies not arriving) which I give away. So far two copies came together over a week ago but no sign of the other.

Billy I was there for that too...mighty fine and I've always been partial to the short but sweet 2nd set from 5/21.......I had my parrot mask and had a great time...

Playing In The Band ->
Uncle John's Band ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
Playing In The Band ->
Black Peter ->
Sugar Magnolia

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I bought Sandinista when it was released (81?) and listened to it _a lot_. Including during 1982.

5 21 82 was two months before my first show, but I had 5 21 on cassette almost immediately. A mighty fine show, indeed.

1982 was the Clash's Combat Rock. I was rather dismissive of it at the time, but I listen to it occasionally and dig it.

Exactly right where we stayed last Sept!! I'd forgotten about the frisbee golf that we all played back in those days ... I still have the original newspaper Jazz Festival artwork & lineups from 82 .... was so broke, the only souvenir I could afford was a leftover t-shirt from the BlueGrass festival that had run a few weeks prior!! Also, was roughing it back in those days and slept on the second floor of a building across from the New Sheridan that was then under construction, affording some modicum of shelter from the very regular rain! (I think it's the Miramonte professional building at 333). Great memories for sure....tc

I was right there with ya ... hit most of the west coast shows from my LA home 40 years ago ... Greek, Ventura, Frost, Irvine Meadows for sure .... Oakland Aud or SF Civic for NYE ... and toss in the somewhat random shows like the US Festival ... had alot more freedom in those days and am happy to have had the opportunity experience the boys 50+ times ....

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40 years ago today, along with Topchinacat Nappyrags and a lot of other great people on this forum, I was at the Greek Theatre for another great day with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. 1979 to 1985 was a great time to be seeing the Grateful Dead, they were playing at so many cool venues. The Grateful Dead were just as cool to see in the 1990s, 1980s, 1970s,or 1960s, it was one swinging party no matter what decade you saw them in . These Greek shows are well played and there are great soundboards , I think it's time for a Greek Box set.

....TPTB may be more receptive if we all said "pretty" please.
Seriously though. They played some all time heaters @ The Greek.
Insert obligatory Darth Sidious do it gif here.

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So drifting and dreaming sometimes while listening I’ll get on some line of thought that ends up with me wasting half a day with Deadbase, Geek!
So my latest adventure looked at what might be good shows to be used as the bonus material for the 50th reissues. i.e., American Beauty was 2/18/71.
Some are easy, others not so much? Caveat: I’ve not listened to all these shows yet, but am mostly going by how many songs from the corresponding album were played.

- WOTF: 6 Songs from the album were played on 9/15/73 or 9/17/73. 5 Songs 9/12/73. 9/11/73 only has 4 songs off the album, but it’s got a DS.

- MARS HOTEL: 4 songs plus Roses 7/25/74 (DS) or 6/20/74
- ALLAH: 6 Songs 6/17/75
- TERRAPIN: gets harder? 4 songs including Terrapin 3/19/77 or 4/22/77 which has first Mojo. 10/7/77 has 4, but some has been released. 3/18/77 has 3, but the only Alahambra and first Fire.
- SHAKEDOWN: 7 songs 11/24/78 or 1/17/79. 6 Songs 12/17/78 or 12/30/78. Several good ones with 5 songs.
GO TO HEAVEN: 7 songs 5/1/80, 5/14/80, 6/5/80, or 6/29/80. 6 Songs 5/10, 5/29, 5/31, 6/7, and 9/6/80.
IN THE DARK: 6 Songs 8/22/87. 5 Songs 4/11/87, 7/2/87 or 9/20/87.
BUILT TO LAST: even though they regularly played all of the nine songs on this album, they only played 5 songs once, on 2/7/89. 4 Songs on 5/6/90 or 6/24/90 (shows all 3 sang on). 10/19/89 has 3 but a Death Don’t.
READY OR NOT: does this one get a bonus disc?

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Very nice piece of research Oroborous! Hmmmm. . . I wonder. . . Providence, Syracuse . . .

Back when the 50th Annivs started rolling out, I remember thinking WOTF was a long time away. Now we're almost there!

Maybe they will sneak an anniversary version of this one out, too. I believe the original album came out in 1973 - although the shows featured were 1970. They could make a great couple of bonus discs from what has gone unreleased from the Fillmore East February 1970 run. No need to include songs already on Bears Choice, though.

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The ONLY way to rightfully celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Wake Of The Flood is to Norman 2/9/73.

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There, fixed it for you.........

So, I'm thinking (yes, it happens!) that we'll have to wait for after the sales rush for the Lyceum vinyl set to hear about a 2022 box(ed) set. That's okay. I'm hoping it's something primal (1969) or something I don't need (post-76).

Meanwhile, speculation on 50th anniversaries in the future run rampant. Go Watkins Glen! Or 6-10-73, the one I missed by "that much."

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nice from topcityvibe.com

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40 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre, along with several other forum members, to see the Good Ole Grateful Dead wrap up another great run at the Greek Theatre. Fun times! Hopefully, a box set will come out of this run of shows, put it together with the 1981 Greek run, which was my favorite year at the Greek, and you would have a fantastic box set.

and also 6/10/73 and Watkins Glen, HF

and Greek 82, BTK. I listened to first set of 5/22/82 yesterday. I smiled. I really wish the recordings had more PHIL. but I will take what I can get.

more LPs? Cmon GD, I need CDs. My car doesn't have a turntable

I'd be really curious as to how that sells. I certainly have no feeling for the vinyl market. I do like how vinyl sounds, but the thought of investing in a good turntable and then ... what? Start buying LPs at ~$25 per record when CDs ruled for nearly 40 years, including here at my house? And trade 80 minutes per disc for 20-22 minutes a side?

I'm glad for those folks who do it all and I've benefitted from CDs made from needle drops on pristine vinyl, but $550 for the Lyceum run that I've had for 10+ years? What this tells me is that I'm an aging dinosaur who doesn't get hatchets, earrings, coasters, vinyl, etc. And I'm okay with that.

There was the E72 trunk (~$700 if I recall correctly) and the 30 Trips (also ~$700) and now the Lyceum vinyl. While the past few annual boxes have come in closer to $200. The sweet spot seems to be ~$10 per disc. And I'd guess that's probably this year's CD box(ed) set: 20 CDs at ~$200. Dave did say he proposed last year's box without the (2) '71 shows and Rhino bumped it up to 20 CDs.

With all these tangential products, I really wonder if they'll get the rest of the '68 tapes out of the vault someday, like while I can still hear what's coming out of the speakers.

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Hendrixfreak,

Pre order price on the E72 box set was $450. A crazy bargain, when you think about it now. Paid a lot more for mine last year.

Hey. 50th Anniversary's are great and yes, I am with you, not going down the vinyl road at this point either.
I would just like to see more music released. I think the demand is still there. Already talking 2023 releases when we haven't even got to June yet, hope we continue to get some announcements for new 2022 releases and not more shorts or socks.

Billy thanks for your calling out each California show anniversary. I really enjoy traipsing down memory lane with you when you bring these past shows to my attention. We must have been rubbing shoulders, I've been to every show you have mentioned. What fun we had!

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Yes, DV, I knew I had my numbers wrong. That trunk WAS the biggest bargain at $450 for 73 discs. 30 Trips was more traditionally priced at $700 for 80 discs.

I don't mind $10 a disc in a nice box with a booklet and art. I don't need the actual boxes (think PNW '73-'74) although I really dug the NW native art and, frankly, am bored by the cliched skeletons. I think I read that Jerry wasn't a huge fan of the skeleton motifs. I mean, sure, use it once for Skullfuck, but after that we didn't need more. I digress.

Yes, looking forward to 2022 box news and, of course, two more DaPs, though not excited for 80s-90s cassettes or whatever non-reel media they used.

Huh, I think I sound a tad bitchy! Might as well get back to chopping and bundling the tree limbs that came down here last Saturday, as 87 degrees plunged to 30 degrees and cement snow fell in quantity, then per the usual was gone in a half-day. Moisture in any form is good here on the high plains. Now just babbling mindlessly: my specialty.

One happy accident with the revival of vinyl is that I never got rid of the the original records I bought between the end of 1971 and about 1990. I stored them all in the attic, but never thought I would ever actually play them again. So it's good fun digging these old records out, and playing them again. Cds were marketed as an upgrade on vinyl initially. Now vinyl is being marketed as an upgrade on cds!

Whereas some people at the end of the 80's looked forward to hearing albums like Europe72- and especially Live Dead- on cd, now some of us are looking forward to hearing the same albums on vinyl again. Get it on vinyl, then cassette, then cd, then a digitally remastered cd, then a super deluxe cd with bonus discs and then on vinyl again. 180 grams a speciality.

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The latest push for the Lyceum vinyl with lots of historical context.
But there were hints of upcoming releases if only I spoke Dave.
Anyone else glean anything from that?
Cheers.

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