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First show, Dave threw out a couple vague hints, no substantial information, I thought. Kinda funny when he threw the ball for the dog.

At a burger joint waiting for my order

Dark Lady by Cher

Very dated

Lol

....our dogs would love it too.
Cheezy Answers.
I never have been to the Bay Greek.
I have been to the LA Greek.
Parked on a hill. Looking for 2 for 5 grilled cheese. 🧀

I have hatchet guilt.

....the sun came up.
And getting ready to set.
Made a friend in the check out aisle.
Strangers stopping strangers.
Daves 42 is awesome👌

So 53 years ago today (and tomorrow and the day after) i was at the no cal pop festival with a stellar lineup headlined by Jimi of course...I was a mere child of 18, heavily involved in telling the SSS to kiss my brown hairless butt...after the festival ended I went to hang with friends in Berkeley dealing with the People's Park showdown....mmmm some fun....

nyuk nyuk

I too really love the artwork (Kwakiutl?) for the PNW box ... but it's more about the music than the art (no offense intended). And speaking of boxes, I wish to hell I'd picked up the E72 trunk .... I've got all the Dick's, but somehow, I checked out for a couple of years and only have most (not all) of the Dave's and Road Trips. I think that since I have had pretty decent boards on cassette for about a dozen of the E72 shows( and considering the cost), I didn't bite. Not too smart. Anyone have ideas on how to get a Trunk at this juncture? I am quite certain that Mrs. Cat would not appreciate the expenditure any more today than in the past, but this is a bridge that would be crossed at that time.....

I'm unanimous in awarding JimInMD the line of the week: "I have hatchet guilt." Actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

I have box set envy: I missed buying FW69 and Winterland Nov 73. It's all psychological. At the precise times those sets came out I felt I could not justify another $100 GD box. Imagine the shortsightedness. Revel in the stupidity. Feel the frustration: Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! (Friends have shared the music, so I'll be okay...)

This is only somewhat mitigated by the fact that I chipped in for a friend's copy of the trunk and 30 Trips, only to encourage their procurement and enjoyment. So there's that.

Back to business: Dave's cryptic remarks never reveal anything. It's like the Federal Reserve chairman or Kremlin-watching. It's all about the freakin' tea leaves. At least I think we know now that Dave's earlier reference to "variety" meant vinyl. Henceforth if he uses the word "primal" I'm camping by the laptop...

I have box envy too. I was unaware of the FW box. I got back on board when Spring 90 TOO was coming out and I listened to the pristine 24 track recordings on the listening party. Brought me right back in. Started collecting boxes right away. Picked up the Trunk and several other boxes I missed on ebay. Filled in my Dick's collection. I'm hooked now. Never sprung for the FW box, though. Now it's so pricy. I guess I'll wait until I feel flush again.

yeah...I have that regarding Fillmore West and Winterland 73 (and isn't there a Winterland June 77 box?)

thanks a lot, "thinking I was being responsible with my money at the time."

I do have unofficial copies of many or all of these shows, but I kinda wish at times I had the official material.

I will NOT pass up a primal box or a Greek box. "Best of GD88 first sets box" I can live without.

My copy of DaP #42 has arrived today. It will have to wait to be played as I’m expecting to be out all of tomorrow and I had deliveries of around 24 cds of varying genres so I’ll have to work my way through them.
I’ll change my header photo as soon as I have time which will probably be Thursday so the weather underground will have to remain for a little while longer

If I were betting man I’d be willing to wager that the Lyceum vinyl set sells out, eventually, and as soon as it does, it’ll sell for at least $1,000 on the “secondary market.” Because that’s what happens with more or less every limited edition release. Want to buy any of the early Dave’s Picks you missed out on? Some of those go for about $400 now.

So, if I was smart, I’d probably buy two copies of the Lyceum set, sell one of ‘em, and keep one copy to have and to hold, basically for free. But this will not be happening, for two reasons: 1) I don’t have $1,100 to invest in anything right now, and 2) I would find a way to fuck this up somehow. (Once, I decided it would be a brilliant idea to spend my student loan money on a large quantity of weed, and then sell enough of it to make my money back, so that I could have a somewhat smaller but still fairly large amount of weed to smoke, for “free.” Six weeks later, I had neither money nor weed, and I’m still not entirely sure what happened. But I can guess.)

I really wish I’d bought the Europe box, now, too. But I think it was about $450 when it came out, which seemed like a lot of money, then. Nowadays, individual volumes from that set usually sell for $100-200 each. Or more. Topchinacat, if you want to buy the whole set, you can usually find one at discogs.com ... if you’re willing to pay $1500-2000.

It’s kind of weird there’s never been a Greek box, isn’t it? Wonder why. Maybe because a lot of those shows were broadcast on KPFA and there’s a lot of boots out there? Maybe the available source recordings weren’t well preserved? Maybe because it’s too obvious, and TPTB would rather surprise us with something we would never have guessed? All of the above? None?

Someday, everything's gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece.

I missed out on FW69 box which led to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. But over the last few years, three of those years have come out on vinyl, and hopefully the fourth will be following on in the near future. So I'm not so bothered about missing out on the cd box now.
Maybe all the shows from the E72 tour will be released on vinyl, too, over the next few years. Not much use if you don't buy records...but a good incentive to (re) start if you didn't get the trunk.

I would keep your eyes on eBay for the E72 Steamer Trunk. Sometimes you can get lucky. Negotiate, sometimes it works. Discogs is risky for that big of a purchase because if something goes awry you have zero protection. There is no discogs customer service or even human beings that run that site. At least with eBay you have eBay guarantees if the seller doesn't offer them.
I got one after all these years last September and it was worth it.

I see a few brand new copies of the Europe 72 steamer trunk on eBay ranging from $2395.00 to $4500.00. You can buy it at a lesser price for one that's not rated brand new. I think I bought the Fillmore West box for $80.00 when it first came out ; I bought 2 copies one for me and one for my brother. The Grateful Dead used to send out an almanac in the. mail and that's where I heard about it. It didn't sell out right away. I don't think that this web site was even up at that time.

...

I bought a mint (perfect) 72 suitcase last year for $1300. I figured that was about as "affordable" as I would ever see it and I jumped on it. I had caught the bug a year before and was literally spending every last cent on every box and show I could get my hands on. I went overboard, but in many ways it is worth every last cent. For a band I never got to see live, they have helped me through the last 3 years (the Covid years) in ways I never thought anything could. Certainly willing to burn anybody a few shows they want. This music was meant to be shared for sure. And there is nothing like listening to a good Dead show while on a good mountain hike. Every show has something to offer.

I have been “casually” looking for just the steamer trunk only for a number of years. Not a huge fan of the big boxes in general, but that is a cool one. There does not seem to be a big supply available unless you want to purchase the entire package. Way too much scratch.

All the individual shows and the music only complete set were available for a long, long time. Around the holidays, dead.net would offer discounts and they still didn’t sell out. I recall paying around $350 for the entire tour. A couple of friends paid even less the following year.

Around the time many of those early box sets came out, my cash flow was relatively minimal. So, I often had to settle for compilations or single releases. So, for example for the FW69 box, I got the three disc compilation and I was fortunate enough to get the bonus disc which was nice. Still, I regret not buying that one and both of the Spring 1990 box sets.

Now when the Europe 72 box was released, I was very tempted to buy at that point. However, I would have had to make a credit card purchase for that and I wasn't keen on running up my credit card debt. Fortunately Dead.net did sell all of the Europe 72 shows individually. So, I was able to piece it together via I did ala carte purchases of a few single shows at a time (per paycheck). I managed to get every show except for a few.

Over time my cash flow increased (thankfully), I was able to search through the wonderful website of eBay, and I found many of the releases that I missed of box sets and otherwise. Overall, it is nice to own all of the officially released material (or well most of it). Even though it stings a little as I paid a secondary market price, I was still able to acquire these for decent prices when compared to the usual going rate. In the end I feel it is worth it as I love owning the physical product. It is like I have my own personal GD vault.

Thankfully, I have been able to maintain the cashflow and I haven’t missed a single box set or Dave’s Picks since about 2014.

After I got hooked again on boxes by Spring Tour 1990 TOO, I started looking into the Trunk. I called a friend of mine who had one, and asked him if it was worth it? He said, yeah there are a lot of good jams, but there are a lot of repeat songs. Around 2015 I poked around ebay looking for a good deal, and snatched up a near new one for $800. I must say I'm surprised to see them going for around two grand! I love the jams in this box!

And then I had to get the Spring Tour 1990 box on ebay, also. ANNND one of the Winterland boxes!

Could not spend that kind of money when the Trunk was released. But later on, I purchased the All Music Edition. At first did not want to purchase because it was the same price as the Trunk without the Trunk and Book. But pulled the trigger which was sweetened with that FTW coupon the year Boxilla came out. Missed out on FW physical product, but getting the vinyl as it comes out. Glad to see RealGone rereleasing Dick's and RoadTrips, was able to fill the gaps of the later years of release.

I hope they do the same for the Dave's series. Unnumbered to keep the collectors happy, but available to those who missed out originally! I missed out on DaP1, but just got the vinyl.

...has a ton of Dick's and Road Trips right now and are offering 20% off. Damn they started the sale right after I bought one of the Road Trips!

So 53 years ago today (and tomorrow and the day after) i was at the no cal pop festival with a stellar lineup headlined by Jimi of course...I was a mere child of 18, heavily involved in telling the SSS to kiss my brown hairless butt...after the festival ended I went to hang with friends in Berkeley dealing with the People's Park showdown....mmmm some fun....

Big reduction on this on Amazon UK this morning.

with Vegas and cancelled concerts? Another tour stops just before sin city as Steven Tyler voluntarily enters rehab after relapse.

I'm so sorry to all the families in Uvalde Texas who were affected by this horrific tragedy, my heart goes out to all of you.

So sad... My heart breaks for those involved.

:_(((
:__((((
:___(((((

....I call it Sandy Hook acid reflux syndrome. And it fucking sucks.

Happy Star Wars Day aka Dave's Pick's Volume 1 anniversary aka a day that changed my own life forever.

May The Force and GD Be With You
Sixtus

Thanks to all for the advice ... I am inspired and will redouble my efforts to add this to my collection ... and thanks for the lead on RealGone .... I picked up a couple of road-trips that I didn't have to round out my collection....still missing the first dozen Dave's however ... but the secondary market is kind of pricey so there's gonna have to be some prioritization I suppose ... (bummer!!) ..... thanks again all.......

Listened to 9 24 76 via youtube
Great stuff
Started 7 16 76 today
A voice calls out for "WALK IN THE SUNSHINE"!

a second or two later Jerry starts up "Cold Rain and Snow"

Love it

There's a Capitol Theater (Passaic NJ) tape from April '77 (I think) and if you listen carefully you hear Mickey Hart say, "St. Stephen, let's do St. Stephen." And Weir says, "No. Around and Around." And Hart retorts, "Have mercy Weir! Have mercy!"

The band that never stops entertaining, even when they're not playing...

E72 is the box I would focus on if I had to choose one. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love FW69. But, the sheer volume of music makes E72 the clear choice. I am not over exaggerating when I say it will provide a lifetime of enjoyment.

Dave played 5/25/72 on TIGDH this evening while I was driving. For a few minutes during the Wharf Rat jam I forgot where I was.

Great record

As usual, my listening sprint was derailed by the May Dave's Picks. I have managed to get the Dark Stars in. There is a cool Steve Hoffman Forum thread that has people analyzing all Dark Stars in great detail. A must for people who enjoy reading about the little nuances and time stamps when everything occurrs.

E72 repeats. I find a lot of cool stuff from version to version on many of them. The longer jam songs are obviously worth the trip. But even the shoter tunes have subtle differences that make them great to get to know (most of them).

This Dave's Picks is incredible to my ears. It's just a consistent dose of Dead all the way through with great sound and good mixing. Yeah, there are some audio anomalies here and there, but they're not too frequent. Billy is having a night of it. I've been including the Bonus Disc highlights within the main set, because I can't wait 4 or 5 hours for China Rider, Brown-Eyed Women, and Uncle John's Band. How does it compare with DaP 13? I can't tell you that...you couldn't afford me....

Sixtus I also love DaP 1. Man, What I went through to get a copy of that. Some lommox on eBay sold me a burned copy for 40 bucks. What a dick. But I was desperate to hear what was so great about it, and I didn't have any '77 except the commercially available 5/28. So I basically had no exposure to the '77 machine. And it was so popular on eBay, I figured it was the Veneta of '77. It did not disappoint. Still has some if my all time favorites from that year. I think they play just about flawlessly, like a studio record, all the way upmto the backup chorus vocals. I still find it to have the most definitive Mississippi Half-Steps; doesn't have the jam you get with Englishtown, but that's what Englishtown is for. It's only weakness IMHO are the last two songs. Not really into post-hiatus Around And Around or Johnny B.

That’s a really bad loss. Makes me nervous.

I know 7 17 76 has been released
But
How 'bout others?
Ever heard 7 16 76 first set?
2nd set today...

And whoever among us that advocated for MUATM return.. YEAH. Covid ish probably delayed it again this year

But I will do my own MUATM in August

Be kind to everyone today, my fellow Deadheads

7/13/76, great show, time to release it, I was there. Those Orpeum tickets were hard to get, they went fast. The Orpheum only holds 1800 people. I saw Garcia play there a couple of times in the 80s.

I’ve been pretty relaxed throughout the playoffs so far, but third period last night I started getting the fear.
Actually started getting unsettled before that since all the broadcasters etc were acting like it was already over.
Now being a Buffalo Loser for sixty years has made me a tad superstitious. See the last Bills game for reference, ahem. So it makes me extremely uncomfortable when they do that. By the end of the game everyone was acting like it was over: the press, the crowd, the AVs, everyone except the Blues!
But the thing that really signaled code red was the increasing sloppy play in the AVs own zone. As the Blues started scoring/catching up, they seemed to become extremely energized, like folks fighting for thier life will do. At the same time most of the AVs seemed to ? Can’t really describe but the result was increased sloppy play and worse, scary turnovers in their zone. This seems like their Achilles heel throughout the playoffs?
When McKinnon got the hat trick it was a slight relief, but I actually said to the other half, that I was worried this isn’t over because of the above. Sure enough, they tied er up and now it’s a whole new game.
I told her at the start of OT if they keep coughing up the puck their gonna lose…
I felt really bad for McKinnon after having such an amazing game. That ridiculous third goal was old school magic ala Gilbert Perrault, beauty eh! But one player does not a team make!
So now you have an extremely capable and energized Blues team, heading back home where the fans will be jacked like Casey Jones himself, and perhaps an AVs team with internal noise In their heads, which all makes me like a dog that knows he’s going to the vet! No Bueno!
Hopefully some of the folks who’ve been quiet in this series will step up because If they don’t git er done in game 6 I think the Blues might win the series.
Hope this 20 year curse doesn’t turn into a fifty year one like our poor bastard friends from the North. ; )

And talk about scary good, I’d say currently the Bolts are the team to beat! Not sure what to make of the other eastern series? You’d think Edmonton would learn from the AVs and nip that one in the bud tonight?

The 18th is the shizzle, but selfishly I hope they don’t release it soon as I have a great bootleg copy on CD, so would rather have something released we don’t have lol I got a tape of that one very early in my development and I’ve always loved the energy and turn on a dime segways on that one. Perhaps my favorite 76 show?
Ha, great question for Sixtus: what’s yer favorite 76 show?

EDIT: I’ve not heard the 13th. Consider radar fully pegged!

7/12/76
7/13/76
7/14/76
7/16/76
7/18/76
yeah
(7/17/76 already released...)

I looked yesterday and saw that the Avs were up 3-1 at the end of second period. I am surprised the Blues came back. in Colorado.

Sports...

The PNW box was rightly hailed for showcasing the band's development in '71 to '73, major years of evolution in setlists and style.

And we assume, probably correctly, that vault tapes for the earlier years are fairly scarce. Taking up the spirit of the PNW box, an even greater illustration of band development would be to issue a modest box containing one show each from 1966 to 1970, the first five years leading into the 71-73 period of growth. The '66, '67 and '68 shows might well be one disc, two discs each for '69 and '70. Beef it up with a lengthy '68 show or two-show curated output for '69 and '70. Or pad it with partial shows that will never be complete. Ten discs and a booklet for $100. Make it limited edition if necessary.

Screw the fetishization of anniversaries and just do it. One show each from the slender stock of '66-'70 won't kill future notions of other uses. (And what "other uses" can anyone imagine? Shows from the first five years don't exactly scream potential release as "Dave's Picks" due to length.)

Yet another brilliant idea from HF that may never happen. But it's worth considering....

....funny you've mentioned 7/18/76 - I, too have an excellent bootleg CD of this show and it is indeed a WHOPPER! The sheer ins 'n outs of songs during that second set is truly magical. It's outstanding.

As for my favs in all 'O 76, I was OVER THE MOON when the June '76 box came out - it hit all of my sweet sweet spots, and in doing, so, included my all-time favorite show from '76: June 11th. I needn't go into excruciating detail on this one, it seems to speak for itself on many levels; but that second set is is just pure drippy bliss to these ears. The Eyes is, hands down, my all-time favorite. Fight me!

But, that entire box is so outstanding and I really love the grooves they spew forth in that early part of the tour and then on into July. By the end of the summer, the sound is already starting to morph and get a bit more edge, which takes on an entirely different conversation and feel heading into '77.

Thanks for inquiring Oro. Inquiring minds want to know.

Be Well Peeps!
Sixtus

Berry interesting. Another awesome box that has not had proper love!
I need to carve out some time this summer and reacquaint, especially the 11th, hmmmm, that number 11 again lol.
Agree on 76 evolution etc. Really is yet another interesting transitional period, and another that amazes me how many consider it fly by territory? To each their own I guess…

....Goodfellas is one of the best movies ever made imo.

One of the great rock drummers has passed away. He had to cancel his UK 50th anniversary tour for Close to the Edge due to health reasons. Now this Rest in Peace amigo.
One of my first big name rock concerts was Yes in September of 1972, Close to the Edge. I had seen other bands before this, but this was a biggie. Have seen Yes many many times throughout the years, in the round, quad sound set up, Wakeman, and Morantz and Stravinsky and back to Wakeman and Alan White played the drums on every tour. After the death of Chris Squire and Jon Anderson and Wakeman leaving, I don't know how they can continue on as Yes. The end or an era.

It seems a shame that the length of 60's shows may limit their potential for release as a Dave's Picks. I would much rather have a one disc 1968 show than something like that 4 cd 1987 show that came out.

Something of a myth that the longer a show was-or a particular version of a song, - then the better that show or song was.

Bummer, agree, one of my top favorites movies of all time!
Best mob movie ever! Four winds blow…