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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6651

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6652

Oroborous

Joined:
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6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6653

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6654

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6655

bob t

Joined:
November 21, 2007

only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6656

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
December 29, 2015

Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6657

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6658

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!
June 27, 2020 - 10:20am

#6659

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Not a drop on me...

but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.
June 27, 2020 - 9:47am

#6660

Oroborous

Joined:
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TOGA!

Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

3/28/90

I wanted to fit this in.. but couldn't. Still, I had a recent listen to this. It's one of my favorite Spring 90 shows for no other reason that it scratches an itch, it appeals to me. The beginning of the second set sparkles and has a great flow to it from one song to the next:

Foolish Heart
Looks Like Rain
Cumberland Blues
The Weight
Hey Pocky Way

In addition to a thundering Other One, second set those songs that beginning sequence shines.

- Foolish Heart has a great flow, one of the better versions they did
- Looks Like Rain (used on Without A Net), love the special affects (Mickey??) tosses in.
- Cumberland Blues (it's got a Cumberland, and a smoking one at that)
- The Weight (A great version and the first performed. It's a clean board and you can still hear the NY crowd go nuts as they knew this was a special breakout. A goosebump moment and it comes through on these recordings)

A great show. I still plan to fit this in and revisit it. I think it was OB commenting something to the fact that 3/29 gets all the hype and rightfully so, but it might not be the strongest show in the run. That might be true. Irregardless, if you take a step back and look at the whole three show run there's a wholeness to the sequence. It's a tentpole stop in the spring tour that does a great job of holding the whole thing and poking it up through the clouds. Truly a great moment in Grateful Dead history and powerful run of shows.

Ok.. rant over. Back to your regularly scheduled Looks Like Rain > Cumberland and spare changing on the corner for gas and beer money. (don't even think about reaching for proudfoots catalytic converter.. we know who you are!)

Coming around, in a circle

Yasss that whole 90 Nassau run is top shelf where mama hides the cookies!
I concur, the 28th has a great set list and great flow! The Cutler mix is awesome, if I had more time I’d do a Box release comparison at home, hell maybe I will this WE? But after our awesome enjoyment of the 30th, I’m thinking that one’s the big dog of the run, big set lists and guests aside? But that may of been the moment? Really their all so good who cares lol.
I was able to hit the first set of 5/15/81 again and that’s another great run: 5/15, 16, 17/81. Will hit the first half of the second set, then hopefully some of 4/3/82?

I’ve recently hit the Greek run, so may have to pass or delay? But DV you MUST check out this run if you love 82 and haven’t yet done so!! To me all 3 were really good but seemed to progress each night Culminating on the last night which I think is the 23rd? Chever, go for it, you’ll be happy : )
I would like to hit the Providence show sometime soon as I’ve only heard the second that I had a tape of. I didn’t have a huge tape collection so if I have a tape, it must of been a good show? That and the majority of the 5th that didn’t get on Road Trips are the only parts of this tour I’ve not heard, yet. Perhaps we slip em in next week?

Someday I’ll get time to properly rehit 42 but my listening has been spotty lately.
Still have a couple fall 73s, some more Nitecats, a couple 92 Dark Stars, and more on the to do list!
Perhaps next week Doc will give us another primal history lesson? But this WE I’d like to enjoy some official releases stuff on real stereo, hopefully?
Awright, snowing up here in the high country so time to get things warmed up with some hot Dead!

Louisville 74

Hot here today.. Louisville 74 was on my water device so I hit that while we did the river. The Eyes of the World saw me safely through the steep part. Summer has arrived.. I guess it's safe to put away my skis.

Ha, Lou vul

I just happen to put that on, the only Dead thing in the middle of a 90 binge I’ve listened to this WE, Cept now a couple choice sides of grease and the Dark Star etc from 5/7/72. Haven’t been hitting full E72 shows but have sporadically, in order, been working through all the Dark Star discs. Man this one’s a beast!

Hopefully radio silence means DV is in thanksgiving like comatose after gorging on 82 Greek!

Death Don't Have No Mercy (part 3)

First my Mom in 2003, next my big brother in 2018.

Now, my Dad a few hours ago. A couple weeks shy of his 101st birthday.

He was:
> a child of the Great Depression
> a WWII veteran
> a captain of industry
> a kind, brilliant, generous and compassionate human being

He was my Dad. And my best friend.

May the four winds blow you safely home. You were the best person I've ever known.

Bolo sorry for your loss

Bolo, I'm sorry for the loss of your father, losing a parent or any family member is really rough. Hopefully the passage of time will make things better for you.

I will show you fear in a handful of dust…………….

Hey rockers!!

Pick of the day: Big Rock Pow Wow, May 23-24, 1969

Two complete 1969 shows, officially released way back in November of 2010. What’s not to like about that?!!!

As one astute critic noted, time constraints forced the band to alter its plan of attack, yet this is still a delightful romp through the Grateful Dead's early songbook. Couldn’t have said it better myself……..

Although, I might add, has this been sitting on your shelf all these years, gathering dust? For shame!

The soul, which is spirit, can not dwell in dust; it is carried along to dwell in the blood……

Rock on!!

Doc
He ate and drank the precious Words,
his Spirit grew robust;
He knew no more that he was poor,
nor that his frame was Dust.

Hang In Bolo / Big Rock Pow Wow

Hang in there Bolo.. sounds like he lived a full life and made a difference.

Big Rock Pow Wow has been in rotation since it was released. Not sure why.. it just speaks to me. Might hit it today.

I learned something new this year, the GD's He Was a Friend of Mine has been mislabeled all these years. I always thought it was an odd take on the folk song with the same name Dylan, Dave Van Ronk, the Byrds, etc. covered. Not sure why, it had different lyrics and a different arrangement.. It appears it's really a portion of a Mark Spoelstra song "Just A Hand To Hold" I don't think I'm the only one, I recall Dantian bringing this up almost a decade ago (remember him?). He referenced the Village folkie Dave Van Ronk in a similar setting.

Onward.. hope you all have a great day and a great beginning to the week.

Bolo

So sorry for your loss Bolo. Losing a loved one is never easy. Certainly sounds like a rich meaningful life. All the best to you and your family.

Condolences To Bolo

We honor them by being the continuation of their conscience and spirit.
We are not the same but we are of them.
101 is awesome. Not many WWII vets left now. Lost mine in 2000.
Playing a He's Gone for all of them today.
Best wishes

Bolo

so sorry for your loss, I wish I had some tidbit of wisdom to offer but all I can say is time will take away the pain and your memories that you made together will make you smile.

Senior Bolo

Condolences from our family to you and yours.
Sounds like he lived a long full life, hopefully he had a good passing.
We lost Mom in 2016 and Pop in 2020, still so surreal.
What I wouldn’t do just for a phone call : (

May the four winds blow him safely home!!

Hang in there Bolo

May the memories and smiles begin to crowd out the tears soon. Here's to Daddy Bolo – his was an amazing generation. Sometimes I think my parents are gone, but it's comforting how often you realize they're there when you need them, looking over your shoulder. Onward.

Bolo

So sorry hear of your father's passing. Such a difficult thing ro deal with. Condolences from our family to yours. bc.

5/23&24/69

I strolled down Pow Wow lane yesterday. 5/24 has a Friend of Mine and Death Don't Have no Mercy. Timely pick.

I love the intro.. the MC is filling in some space while Ramrod is fixing the organ and suggests people should sit down so the folks in the rear can see. They boys aren't having any of that.. starting with Pigpen, Don't Sit, Stand Up..Don't be programming it baby, lets just get it on.. Then Bobby.. this one in the key of E-nough.. Some talk about the lights, put the lights on the people.. Jerry chimes in, it's incredible man.. you can stand up here and direct the whole ship.. come on.. let's play, and off they go.

Any interest in doing the 50th of 5/24/72 today? An off the radar show that has some high moments.

5/24/72

I'm down. Not one I can recite the setlist by heart, so I'll go without looking at it. I should be able to hit it at sufficient volume too which ought to be nice. :-) Thanks Jim. Jeff

BC

You can't blame gravity for falling in love............

Hello my fellow rockers..........

LOVE 5/24/72!!! Listened on my commute this morning...........

In fact, love that whole four show run. But maybe it's just me..................

Rock on,

Doc
True love is like ghosts, which everyone talks about and few have seen...........

5/24/72

Yes to this show Jim. I was going to suggest 5/26/72 also this week, but let's get 5/24/72 going now.

5/24/72

Listening to 5/24/72, this is really one of those shows that just feels like friends hanging out and jamming more than a show. And I certainly mean that in the best way possible. Just the energy bouncing off of every member in perfect harmony. It is a very personal sounding show and one that I will be listening to again!

so.. 5/26 tomorrow?

Enjoyed 5/24.

An embarrassment of riches? Na.. just good ole GD. In recent years I have been enjoying the 'lesser' shows from this tour as much as the monsters. Lille, Munich, 5/24 Lyceum, Aarhus, Concertgebouw.. they all have their own story to tell. As for 5/24 the China Cat > PITB is special as is the latter part of the second set. The country songs shine on this tour as well. Listening to this tour from start to finish when the steamer trunk arrived completely changed my enthusiasm level for the band. So consistently good.

Anyway.. enough blabber from me. Anything on tap for today? Any inspiration?

5/24/72

I didn't catch the WRS Prelude in the first set despite the ample volume. I'll have to pay closer attention next time. :-P

Music fills the infinite between two souls..........

Jim, here is today's inspiration:

London May 25 1972

Besides the "standard repertoire"---which is indeed tasty---we get the jammy, "no-rap", final Pigpen Good Lovin' and the quirkily convoluted Uncle John's Band/Wharf Rat/Dark Star/Sugar Magnolia second set jam sequence.

Be bold, unleash infinity!!!

Rock on,

Doc
If you look deep enough you will see music; the heart of nature being everywhere music.........

Too Funny...

Up early and drinking some strong Kenyan.. with nothing on my listening plate I started 5/25. Just finished Good Lovin'. A strong show and good choice.

Thanks Doc.. might as well hit a few of these this year. Seems just about right.

Might as Well

Might as well hit the final three of the tour. I might need some additional time to get to these three in. They are all such high level shows.

Yep

In it for a penny..... In it for a pound.

Take your time and enjoy the ride.

Thank you

For the kind words. Y'all are some nice folks.

My 100 year old father's last words: "I'm Goood!" Passed away 10 minutes later.

Nice pump fake, Dad. An OG prankster - runs in the family, I guess.

I can relate

Bolo

It has been three years since my father said his farewell. Best man I ever knew. My mother sat with him and asked him to smile. He smiled and died.

"Nothing left to do but smile smile smile."

Good vibes sent your way. "stayed a little while and then flew off."

Take good care

Tim

And do you accept the idea that there is no explanation?

Good morning, fellow rockers!

May 26 1972. The last classic show with all the original band members.

Needs no explanation.

An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason...........

See you in June,

Doc
There is a great deal of unmapped country within us which would have to be taken into account in an explanation of our gusts and storms...............

Re: The last classic show with all the original band members...

Obvious, but I never looked at this show this way before. So glad it was tossed out today. It's a classic, one of my favorites but it's so obvious I actually don't listen to it all that much these days.

I had a personal and special moment my sophomore year in college listening to what existed of this on Vinyl in my room late one night. I didn't have all that much GD back then.. perhaps 40 or 50 tapes of various quality, this was before the influx of soundboards that would come later that year (Cornell, Betty Boards, etc.) I still get goosebumps when I listen to this Morning Dew. It sparks a real moment of personal reflection and inward thinking..

A powerful piece of music that I really enjoy. Wowwow stuff.

E72

5/24/72 is a great show, what is not to like. Still working my through 5/25 and love that first set Big Boss Man, China Rider, Me and Bobby McGee. How about that Brokedown Palace? Fantastic. I will keep it rolling. Hope you are all enjoying it.

Oroboros!

Holy crap, long time no see old top!
It’s unfortunate that such a sad thing brought you outta the woodwork, but glad you did!
Hope you’ve been well my good twin ; ) Great story, per usual, thanks for sharing the smile that made me smile!

Bolo, that’s priceless, last words: I’m good! We should all be so lucky!
Hang in there amigo, got an empty cup, only love can Phil!
If you get confused…

seeing double

Oroboros and Oroborous.

like a Full lunar eclipse from Muley Pt.

Strider?

speaking of brothers - you out there in the mountains of southern NM?

Lyceum '72

streamed available sbds of 5/24 and 5/25 past couple of days. been a long while. really fun listening to Keith's playing in those mixes. everything on the Europe tour is a joy to listen to.

Lyceum Marathon

I was able to fit in all three shows, actually I hit the first a couple weeks ago. I have to say.. the 26th is my favorite of the bunch. I don't listen to it that often but it's long, consistently good and practically perfect in every way. They really are all excellent.. the boys were on.

The highlights are many, but the pure gold is in the beginning of the second set. The balance between the thunderous Other One, spacey interlude and delicate Morning Dew is stunning. In and out, tug and pull, ebb and flow, tension and release.. It gets me every time, especially Jerry's soulful and expressive Morning Dew.

So glad you guys kept this run in our focus..

I think we have a little time while a few ketchup.. I might hit 5/25/77 Richmond since it came up on the Dave's Picks thread. I almost never listen to that one also. Anyone else have anything off the beaten path on the horizon?

Holy cow.. it's a holiday weekend already! Enjoy all..

Jim - off the beaten path you say?

5/25/95 second night Seattle. No sbd, but you can listen to a pull by the man himself Charlie Miller. it's all really really good. gorgeous night. jerry's solo during foolish heart was so very liquid silver and beautiful. and i suggest paying special attention to the D > S > Wheel. For extra credit pick up the sbd source from gd hour of beginning of Set II previous night. I was on the rail whole show. Want To Tell > Estimated . . . . And like ProudFoot said night 3 was a big time dreamy affair with a massive jammed out Scarlet > Fire.

oh call me crazy but i really really like Samba In The Rain. Saw the second one played in Seattle '94 and it had a swing that i really dug. Lyrics by poet etraordinaire Robert Hunter. If I remember correctly Jerry, Bob, and Phil(!) all singing harmony on the chorus and it was great. So it was sweet and just fine to hear it again in '95. and another thing from those '95 shows is just how "fat" and "other" Bobby's guitar sounds. I loved that.

5-25-77

Recently finished listening to this on vinyl. Excellent recording and a solid show. The Lazy Lightning/Supplication really caught my attention. Overall though nothing that just blew me away.
Noticed that an outfit called Brookvale Records out of NY had been doing Dick's Picks vinyl but their website's last listing was DiP 8. Are they still doing those? The site was rather empty. Only 2000 in each issue. Has Rhino taken over the vinyl production? Does Dead.net license to more than one producer at a time? There would be a few DiPs that I would love to have in vinyl, like 15-Englishtown, 18-Dane County, 20-Landover/Syracuse. I did get the DiP 19 OKC '73 vinyl recently.
Saving my 5-26-72 listen for the July CD release. No dinero for that vinyl box.
Cheers

Edit: eBay search seems to indicate Rhino produced, Brookvale just a seller? Brookvale's website said they produced so I'm confused. No Brookvale past DiP 8. Then the newer Rhinos, DiP 36 (averaging 3 or more times release price), 19 (only averaging double the release price). The crazy sellers are there too. DiP 3 listings for $3100. sealed or buy an unsealed for $127.50 (probably won't last), or go whole hog for DiP 1-5 sealed for $2699.99! So it would appear that I've only missed that earlier run of DiP 1-8. Oh well, couldn't have afforded them back then anyway.

Too Burnt and busy

Been having real repetition burn out, especially early seventies, specifically Bobs repetitiveness, though a couple JG songs too. That’s a sure sign of burnout: when you start getting sick of Jerry songs lol.
Also, limited to what I can find on Relisten since what little listening I’ve had has been at work.
I’ve recently spent some quality time with Pow Wow, so skipped that and not much of the Lyceum stuff is on line. Did hit some, but really been outta the loop. Murphy’s law, 50th anniversary but not been really drawn to E72, though I have been slowly making my way through the Dark Star discs etc. THAT stuff never gets old!

Hit 2/9/73 one day since it came up again. Still don’t get what all the hype is about that one. Yes it’s a good show, and interesting historically, but imho there’s other 73 shows I’d rather have, but hey that’s just me. Always seemed overrated to me?
I hit 5/25/77 for the first time sorta recently and it’s yet another of those 77 shows, but it didn’t blow me away, or, I liked 41 from 5/26 better? Admittedly, only listened online and I need a another go of that one? That run all sorta rolls into one for moi? Yes very consistent, tight well played etc, but…? I guess some day I need to go all in and do the whole month in order etc, but there always seems to be something else hot on the radar. Oh, like 7/13/76 that Billy The Kid mentioned elsewhere (another great show he was fortunate to attend, lucky bastid ; )
I hit that yesterday and it was a fine show in spite of the recording. Still think 7/18 is my fav though.
Hopefully I’ll get some shows in this WE, but the other half will be home too so depends on her tolerance level lol.
I’ll see if I can hit that 95 BC if only because you’ve recommended it highly. It’s on you bra ; )
Oh, just received RT 1.3 from 71, the last one I was missing, so that’ll have to get a spin too.
Fug, just like that the WEs shot lol. Such problems!
ONWARD!

RT 1.3

Excellent release.

I'm ready to take the heat if need be for any '95 rec I make. Heck, I don't know if Dave has even posted any '95 in the Tapers Section. But I fully approved of his choice of Salt Lake for '95 in the 30 trips box. Great show, with a gorgeous Foolish Heart and the first of the late era Visions of Johanna, It was before my time in OOtah though Strider was there I think. Just saw that first 2 shows this week in Tapers Section are 8/8/82 Alpine and 8/11/87 Red Rocks, both shows I attended and loved. 8/7 and 8/8 changed the course of my life for the better I think :)

5/26/72 He's Gone

Jerry is botching the lyrics big time but I'm going to try and power through the whole animal today. Then, I might sample 5/25/95 Charlie Miller. Been wanting to see if Jim had any specific thoughts on 9/20/74. BITD, I had a very crisp DAT to Cassette of that show I liked it a great deal. I seem to remember there was a portion at the end cut from my tape, but maybe I'm confusing it with 10/28/77, which I also had a very clean DAT to Cassette of. :-) :-) :-) all 'tis the weekend :-)

5/25/95 & 9/20/74

Thanks Bluecrow. I'll check it out, just getting in from a big day spent mostly outdoors so maybe later tonight. I love this time of year, rain and all. Then again, I seem to find myself content with all seasons.. there's always something to do you just gotta poke around.

Gonna cook and eat some salmon, relax a bit and get settled into what hopefully is going to be a great holiday weekend. Hope you all find something that grabs you..

WTJ, it's been a while since I listened to 9/20/74. I recall liking it and thinking it was a better show than some of the reviews might lead us to believe. It has been a neglected 74 show for me. Perhaps I will fit this into my weekend. Besides, it's got a Cumberland! (and WRS and China Rider).. good setlist to be sure.

5/25/95 & 9/20/74

in the same breath?

holy mother of god.

i'm in deep now

so every show in that fall Europe '74 tour is pretty/really freaking good! I've rec'd an Usbourne matrix of the completely off the radar show from that tour in Munich from 9/14. listen for Tommy (IIRC) played over the system in a between sets on an audience splice. Yeah a history note.

And now yet again I'm "in" Set II for 5/25 Seattle. I really dug this run but hadn't even thought about it recently until ProudFoot mentioned night 3 and, among other things, I realized it it lined up with the last 3 nights of Lyceum '72.

Most of my deep listening nowadays is headphone and that's what I rec here. And don't forget the bonus GDHour source for Want To Tell > Estimated from the night before.

Jim - given all your whitewater and kayak time, did you ever know Jon Dragan back in the day?

Yes Oroboruos, my brother from another mother

I am lurking about.

Bolo's recent loss sparked me to reply on the recent loss of my father. 92 yrs. old and he was ready to go. And he did.

He's gone.....

Heading out to see Joe Russo's Almost Dead in Vail (2 nights) and then at Red Rocks for a night. Celebrating my wife's successful cancer treatment 5 years ago and our 42nd wedding anniversary in August by heading up to altitude and enjoying some music.

If you haven't availed yourself to JRAD yet, but enjoy the Dead's 68-69 breakneck pace, turn on a dime, deep jamming, combined with the Grateful Dead's entire song catalog, they are highly recommended by this writer.
Check them out. I find them significantly more edifying than any other dead-centric offerings I have seen (yes I have seen Dead & Co multiple times) as they play with inventiveness and pace of that early Dead.

Thanks for the shout out, hope to post more soon, retirement is rapidly approaching and will provide me with extra time to connect, reminisce, and spin tales of our favorite aural adventures.

Take care

Tim

Re: Dragan

I've heard of him, his name used to pop up.. he's a bit before my time and a bit South (Gauley River WV, etc.). The Gauley's a classic run and a bit of a beast. It's gods country down there, stunningly beautiful, really awe inspiring. Even the drive there is breathtaking. I'm about 2 1/2 hours North but occasionally make my way South, made it last fall and hope to make it at least once this year.

5/26/72

Definitely agree with Jim, WTJ and others on this show.
Let me take it a step further.
Obviously part of it was released with the original E72 release and I bought a copy of the CD release in I believe 85. Still have it .
Didn't get the box when it came out in 2011, seems crazy now, but that is the way it goes. Passed on the individual shows that sat on Dead. Net for years. Still can't believe that one. But my daughter was very young and money was tight.
Anyway, I believe my first two individual shows I purchased on the secondary market was this show and 4/26.
I was able to listen to the whole show tonight, basically uninterrupted.
The goose bumps are still there. Definitely a top five show in my book. The Truckin, Other Ones, Dew, Other One, Sing Me Back Home still might be the best music I have ever heard.
The sound quality still to this day amazes me how good it is.
We have to be thankful for the Warmer Bros executive, I forget his name and the unbelievable effort of the Wiz, Bob Matthews, Betty Cantor and others for recording this tour. This one is for you all.
Enjoy the weekend all!

Ha

That must be Joe Smith. I enjoy his modern day interviews and comments. I am not sure the boys were fond of him back in the day, but Jerry gave an amicable interview towards the end. In Anthem to Beauty, someone dug out the letter from him to the band that they "graded." I think they gave it an "F" for "F*** Y**"

Whiz also gave a great account of recording that show in Anthem to Beauty. No one was in the truck when Morning Dew was played and the recording came out flawless. Those were the days....

I'm sure you all knew all this, but just in case.. ah, the end of one of the truly great tours from any band at any time.

Up late last night, well just because.. up early this morning because it's my curse. Got water heating and some freshly roasted to see me through what will surely be a great morning. Everyday should be a holiday weekend.

Jon Dragan

I met Jon in the early aughts out here in the west on an 8-day river trip I was guiding. previous life time stuff, so to speak. unusual trip to say the least, almost every "client" was big time rafting/whitewater. me? just a boatman on the mighty San Juan. somewhat early in my career. But yes, I knew that river pretty well by then. There was at least one other company owner from WV on the trip, plus the owner of DIB, Spouses also. One, maybe 2, family friends. One for sure was a doctor. Moki Mac, another company owner, decades in the business and a legend out of Moab, was also there as the only other "crew" besides myself. Mac was in fact a friend of several of those folks. this trip was not MM trip but WRX. All boats personal, except the one I rowed, even MM. It was late October, hardly anyone on the river and we encountered no one in the lower canyon over 5 days. That is total gold. By chance watched one of the first helicopter "deliveries" of desert bighorn sheep in the low.er.

That first night Jon did something remarkably weird, comic, simple, and memorable.

so - etched in memory in terms of at least 2 key details. it was dinner. I'm standing behind a cook/prep. table. a bit higher than what you would expect - the classic homemade tables/emergency backboards of WRX. Jon has dinner before him. He's got a crazy funny grin. He is holding a miniature pepper mill. 1-1/2" high? it's suspended from a chain around his neck. it's a "charm". Only its functional. If I had to guess it held one, maybe two pepper corns. And he slowly turns the handle all the while smiling at me. honest to god, I am wondering what am I looking at. and at this juncture almost 20 years later I can only smile and laugh. I don't think i dreamt this.

at the end of the trip I showed Jon a couple of pieces of cast silver I had done in a workshop. one was based on a bear pictograph my sweetheart and I had come across previous year - despite everything I think that site is still not on the radar. still proud of that piece, cast in cuttlefish, so ripples along the body. balance and aesthetic is spot on for me. Jon asked me if he could buy it for his wife. I wasn't ready for that - told him can't do it now but maybe down the line. Let's stay in touch. in the end a missed opportunity of connection.

I still remember standing in the company office a year or so later and being told that he had passed away suddenly. He was 62. Legend.

Truthfully the Gauley may well be on a hypothetical bucket list based simply on that.

my apologies for a non-Dead post on this thread.

9/20/74

listening now - WRS.

they need to release complete shows of all '74. it's that simple.

DIB

Cool.

The DIB factory is just across the river from me.. Small world..

Oh.. the Gauley's a classic. I guess you have a few rivers out West that compare.. but here in the East, there is nothing like it. The Beast of the East. A beautiful canyon.