Grateful Dead

Dennis - I'm not sure of the answers to your questions, I am afraid. It seems to me though, that you have to pay all the tax VAT etc for boxes that come out of the country, and that if you buy the same box from within the country you live in, then there is no added costs. The last big box I bought from within England was the 18cd Jerry Lee Lewis Collected Works on Sun, issued by Bear Family. The cost was quoted, and that was all I paid.
I bought the similarly sized Chuck Berry Box direct from Bear Family in Germany - and the postal services wouldn't deliver it until I had paid a lot of extras.

It was weird when I phoned UPS at the end of last year, about the October Dead box, and they told me they had charged so much because they assumed the box contained clothing, not cds. Why clothing gets taxed more than cds I know not.

In terms of how you determine value, that's another matter entirely. You could send the William Blake painting " Ghost of a Flea" for next to nothing, I would think, as it's only about as big as the palm of my hand. If you sent one of my friend Claire's paintings, the tax and VAT would go thorough the roof, as they are massive. But William Blakes paintings are considered to be much more valuable than Claire's are. Although that may change in the future. It probably won't - but it might.

Both of those boxes look great, can't spend 800 bucks without the ire of "she who must be obeyed".

But if anyone has a copy they would like archived offsite in case they have a natural (or un-natural) disaster, I would have a copy loving stored in the my collection. :-)

Not sure where to tell this story, but this seems as good as anyplace.......leaving USAC sprint car race at midnight this past Sunday from Terre Haute, IN and threw in Disc #3 from DaP 10 (Thelma )......Pulled in driveway with car/trailer just as "We Bid You Goodnight" was starting..........drive home EXACTLY the length of that disc. Another one of those GOGD lifetime connections. Just wanted to pass this story on to enliven everyone's day.

Busy work week, so I fell behind in my 50th Anniversary Tour relisten. So today I am completing my listen of the 5/3/72 RSD vinyl and it sounds wonderful. I had just got the Wembley RSD, but that's still sealed. Looking forward to DaP1 vinyl arriving later this week and psyched for the Lyceum vinyl.

Definitely. Reminds me of about 11 years ago when I drove back from my parents house once. A long journey needs a long show. I set off to the opening chords of 5/26/73. And pulled up at home some 5 hours later exactly as the show was drawing to a close. Not a show you hear a lot about these days.

That Wembley RSD show is great. As the Paris one was and as the Lyceum box will be.

Cleaned anad listened to it twice this morning. RSD Wembley arrives from Plaid Room this afternoon. Really love the vinyl can't get enough of it. Looking for the complete end of May 72 later this summer, Also expectin the RSD Art Pepper (mono) Meets the Rhythm Section and the Pepper Adams Live a the Top so busy Sunday morning with a few nice espresso's (had to remove alcohol from the diet for health reasons)
drp out
Oh and can't leave out the Feb Winterlands 22 and 23 Nice toon weekend

Does anyone know if a hi-res download might be included in the "big box"?s

Hey Rod, A download with the Lyceum Box would probably nudge a lot of folks off the fence... Would be a nice gesture too. But if that was the case, I bet David Lemieux would have made a big deal about it on his seaside chat, and it would be all over the product page. If your decision-making process has gotten you this far, my suggestion: Go for the Box while you can!

Put this in my cart and was on the fence…why is tax showing up, will get hit with tax again when shipping to Canada? Still on the fence but an extra $100 in tax doesn’t help!

Too bad we're not able to spin the vinyl today!

why no CD set????? - NOTHING beats compact disc quality, vinyl is GARBAGE!! - always discriminating against CD crowd…

Vinyl is much better than cd.

And also the entire tour has been released on cd. Not sure the cd crowd has been discriminated against. Lol

Nearly all the Dead shows that have been released on vinyl over the last 10 years or so came out on cd first.

There's a digital download version of all of the Lyceum shows, so you're not out of luck. You can burn the cd's from FLAC or ALAC. If you have a cd printable inkjet printer, you can create cool looking CDs. I used to make a travel set of the recent limited releases in case they accidentally found a new home. Burned too many times - never figured out what happened to my 100 Year Hall release, hope someone is enjoying it...

Does anyone know if there’s a chance they will release this on cassette?

I sat on this one for awhile. "I already have both RSD releases - Paris and Wembley" I said. "Its too much" I said. In the end I said "fuck it...it's gonna sound great." The sticker shock faded as soon as I committed and now it's replaced by that great mix of excitement about how fun this will be to havecin hand and anxiety anytime Warner ships anything!!

Garbage? What the "Donald Duck" One of the greatest tours in the history of modern music, Maybe Deadnet could have offered us a One Step Reel to Reel Tape Ltd edition,sadly out of my price range but come on, really,this has been available on CD,and on the mighty Europe '72 Steamer Trunk Ltd edition,as well as past Vinyl incarnations including a Vol2. I rest my case/boxset,me lord!

Do you think this will sell out? I am not big on live vinyl but I may buy this as an investment and keep it sealed.

Your kidding, right? I love cassettes too but um, no chance.

I started going to the first RSD years ago and managed to attend everyone until I got sick in 2015… I managed to attend one prior to COVID, but I’ve missed out on all the double ones they had during COVID.
I rarely get the really good stuff as the years went one because the only record store near here at first didn’t have a limit, so they’d buy all five copies of all the dead and phish stuff and selling them online. So frustrating.
Then they started the limit, and more people started coming and even at 7am, there’d be a line and the first group was always a group of deadhead buddies who must live near the town because the first row of ten were all tyedyed and had chairs and hanging out, so they’d get everything.

So I can’t imagine how it is now with multi year releases.

I’d find scraps or sometimes an overlooked gem, but yeah I almost feel like it’s not worth the effort and wait until they come down on eBay. I’ll see the ones from the area for sale before the store opens. Sadly my store gets five at the most of the good stuff.

Now I just wait and buy them once the frenzy dies downs after a while, but that Weebly release is still expensive.

I did manage to get the multi colors vinyl and some of the other vinyl releases this pst two years. Some I’ll wait until the 750 or 500 left for the bigger more expensive set, but dang the prices even on the site are so high.

Yes a some of the boxes they’re been shipped in are even cool, like the Giants stadium cd set, even the shipping box had cool designs and customs made of it.
But some of these prices are just insane from the source. I know vinyls gotten expensive and materials are expensive, heck they’ve even had a few represses that took so long, I totally forgot I’d ordered them. It’s a nice surprise, like drunk Amazon shopping. You never know what drunk you bought for sober you. One day I had a unicorn swimming raft arrive one day. I haven’t been swimming in maybe 15 years!

Anyway I am done venting. Just aggravating as the prices for these huge sets are so much, we should have a payment process, like for festival tickets.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to this. I make copies of everything and keep the original at home to keep them safe. Some are just cool to look at, like the Egypt cd set with the fold out pyramids. I love those cool things, but I love the larger art work and book, or gatefolds in the vinyl. I didn’t realize how much I missed it until years ago when my dad gave me his vinyl collection. It wasn’t cool then and easy to find great records at yard sales until more record store finally began reopening aside from a few in NYC or SF. I’m glad it’s back. I’m making copies anyway to protect them no matter what it’s on, just vinyl takes a little more work to burn to cd.

I think the deluxe cassette E72 box is pencilled in for the 60th anniversary.

. . . for a 78 RPM Shellac edition or maybe a Wax Cylinder release. Nothing else compares.

It's never easy, knowing what to do about RSD. I bought the Wembley 1972 set on the day - online- at face value, and now it's dropped in price substantially on AmazonUK. I decided to wait to see if Gong Live in the 70's would drop in price - and it almost immediately increased, and became minimally available. Apart from in the States, where people possibly don't know who the flip Gong are.

@DaveRock I'm pretty certain those sub-retail priced sets for sale on Discogs, Amazon, and eBay are pirated copies. If you look, you'll see that the cheap ones mostly come from sellers in Eastern Europe and Germany. Ones at retail price are often from record stores. If you search online, there are a bunch of articles about a big seizure of pirated records in Germany in 2016.

Anyway, feel good about your purchase, knowing that what's driving prices down is piracy. And feel bad about the piracy. Arrr.

That's interesting, I hadn't considered that. 3/1/69, an RSD release from last year, seems to get less expensive on amazonUK every time I look.
But yes, I got my copy of both that and the Wembley show from an independent record store.

I’m in on this (finally)!

It took a lot of back and forth debating, not for the cost but for its immense size. (It will only take 1 faulty lp to ruin this box set.)
But after weeks of thinking on it, I decided I’d be much happier with this than without it in the long run. So as of 5/26 there is one less for sale ;)
And (technically speaking) this is actually 23 Lps worth of music if you subtract the etchings on 2 sides. But the book that’s included balances out those lost sides (for me).

For those asking if this will sell out? The answer is a resounding YES!! I’m guessing the pre-order won’t sell out but after it goes to retail it will eventually be gone. If this turns out to be a flawless release the price on the resale market will be sky high.
4000 isn’t a huge pressing, However, it is a massive production that dwarfs all limited GD releases (96k records pressed for 4000). I also think the RSD wembly release (10,000) along with the other 50th anniversary releases is jamming a lot of people up.

Too much good Dead at once!!!
But keep it comin’!! ♥️

I still haven't bought the 24 album box, fabulous though it looks.
I just remembered Europe 72 Volume 2, though, that came out about 10 years ago as a RSD release. I didn't get it at the time, but I think if it came out on vinyl again I would be tempted - if just for the Dark Star-Drums Other One from Bickershaw. Maybe they are saving that show for another vinyl release later on down the line. Just in case we haven't already got enough.

Europe 72

After deep consideration I've ordered the digital download of the Lyceum Complete Recordings. I decided that $550 is just too much for the physical LPs, as much as I'd love to have them. I've already ordered the standalone LP of Europe 72, the CD release of it also, and the CD of Lyceum 5/26/72. That's enough for this aging Deadhead.

I don't even have a working phonograph at the moment. My amp is on the fritz and I don't own a turntable right now. So I have priorities for money and equipment.

I would love to add a SACD player to my system to get full advantage of the many releases I already have.

Priorities. It's a buck dancer's choice my friends.

Dead & Co and Wolf Bros aren't coming anywhere near me this touring season. But I just scored tickets to see Phil Lesh and Friends June 12 at Marymoor Park in Seattle. YAAAY!!

Wax cylinder would be awesome! Probably make a box set of 500. ;-)

… “ three little birds on my doorstep “ whispering
Mystery Train coming down the tracks 22 coaches long! ;)

Sounds like 11-8-70 Capital Theatre, Port Chester to me...

LMG*….?…!🫠
“22 coaches long” I really hope that means a release of the Europe 72 tour on cd and you can buy any show from the 22 shows individually, because I’ve already preordered 5/26/72 & I don’t need to get the two complete shows I have on vinyl… when they did the Europe 72 trunk “boxset” did they also do the entire tour as individual shows you could purchase or did you have to purchase all 22 or nothing with the all music edition?

I'm not sure when the E72 AME was released in respect to when the trunk was released. I think the Trunk had sold out so quick that they did an AME shortly after. I picked up the AME in 2015. At that time, one could either purchase the AME or individual shows. I was debating on which route to go, but decided to go the AME route because the Warner CS folk indicated some shows were getting low in stock. I think when the low stock notifications were going out on the releases, people on the fence or entrepreneurs grabbed the rest.

@ Daverock - check your DMs / Inbox.

Boblopes - great, thanks ! I wonder how many of these boxes are left? And how long it will be before I order one? Release of the year whatever comes next, I would think.

Vinyl is increasingly becoming my favourite medium for listening to The Dead. I've just played 5/19/74 again - exceptional. Doesn't bother me at all turning over the L.Ps. to hear a whole jam -or the short sides.

@daverock - If you think you're going to want this box, I really wouldn't wait. It's taking far longer to sell out than I imagined it would, but then again, the price tag is high. That said, it's only a run of 4,000 and would be surprised if it remains available much longer. Then again, no one has a crystal ball. I also don't know your system. In my particular system, vinyl just sounds so much better, so it's a no brainer for me, despite having the discs. If I eventually can afford a superior digital front end, my personal preference may change, though doubt it since that front end will come in a preamp I'm considering and that has a superior analogue front end too. LOL But just saying, if anyone who buys this set has regrets soon, or later, I tend to doubt re-selling them is going to be very difficult. Just my 2-cents. Cheers

Easywind/Bob - you are of course right. I was put off by the price and already having the trunk. But factor in what you have said - and the fact that I also prefer vinyl to cds, that 1972 is probably my favourite year and that 5/26/72 is often my favourite 72 show...then pop.... my order is in.
I hope the next box is from a year I'm not so keen on, though !

You made me laugh with - I hope the next box is from a year I'm not so keen on, though !

Understandable :-)

Dennis - as a mutinous ex subscriber I'm also wondering about the next Dave's Picks, too. Maybe a good time to remind Dave not to forget about Dead and Co.

If Rhino were to reissue the E72 AME, I would surely bite. I missed the original release and the AME offering. I am still a CD listener and would love to have this tour in my collection. Love vinyl, but this set is cost prohibitive.

If there was an AME for Fillmore West I would surely bite. Same for DaP1...

I bet they will reissue these eventually, I have a copy of the Fillmore West Box, but I would buy another copy just to have as a backup, it's such great music. I think that the Dave's Picks will start being reissued eventually, probably by Real Gone Music..

Looking forward to this behemoth arriving at my doorstep.

What's Up Doc! How about an unboxing video...

8 Days a way....

I too wait with dated breath.

Will it really ship on that day?

God knows (though I don't believe in him or the fact that he cares)

Still waiting on the "from the vault" stuff,,, only time given "summer". If you didn't laugh, you'd have to cry.

The way customer service at Dead.net responds to email (or rather, doesn't), you could mistake this for a mom-and-pop operation rather than a multi-million dollar corporation. Almost two weeks ago I sent an inquiry about how exactly this is being shipped, as I am out of the country at the moment and having mail forwarded. Several different scenarios that could play out and I would like to be prepared because, you know, this is kind of a huge purchase. Considering the size and weight of the box -- as well as the price -- it will mildly blow my mind (and yet leave me unsurprised) if they go with 'UPS Mail Innovations' instead of a premium service, like the price tag and fan loyalty might lead us to hope for.

Anybody have any insight on this? P.S. if anybody from Dead.net reads these threads, you might consider changing the wording of "Please note that we are currently experiencing longer than usual response times. " since that message has been the same for at least three years now...

My UPS account has a 22 lb shipment ready for UPS from WEA Gnarlywood!
Update. Still no shipping email, but UPS has it shipped this AM and will arrive 2 August!

I too have an entry on UPS for 22lbs and UPS is indicating it's on its way, but there's no estimated delivery date yet. It does look like it is UPS Ground, so Bolderdash, you could change the routing to have it shipped to a UPS location and pick it up there. I did that for Boxilla back in 2015 due to work schedule and potential weather. The location was not the most convenient and probably overthought the whole process but there's that for an option...

Thanks DRPRYAN, did not think to check UPS...

I have not received an official shipping notice via email yet from Warner (WEA) for Lyceum, DaP or Waiting For Columbus Box & LP all released today. Typically the DaPs arrive before the shipping notice is received.

Don't stress - it will be worth the wait. We have a new puppy arriving in 3 days, that's what I am stressing about currently...

Looks like the box went on a diet - now 22lbs instead of 26lbs...

No email ship notice for lyceum complete recordings no ship notice for dave's picks 43 the digital lyceum downloads give me "invalid download URL" so after fronting over 700 bucks not a single response as too when I could expect movement.

bob
Mine says estimated delivery of 8/2/22 and said it has departed Riverside, although I'm not going get to wrapped up in it until Brown sets it down on the porch. Bolderdash If you have or do set a UPS account it allows you to change the delivery on your tracking page to whatever you like as Bob said