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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Herbie Hancock is about the only one of the artists on your list that I have already, Oro. I have Maiden Voyage, Empyrean Isles, Head Hunters, Sextant, Thrust, and Man Child. I find all to be enjoyable.

    1973-1974 Jerry and Merle is a sweet spot, lots of soul and jazz influences showing up in their stuff from that time, those Keystone Encores box set shows in particular are phenomenal. And an absolute highlight of the Merle and Jerry Collaborations would be Merle Saunders and Friends CD Fire Up +, that disc is on fire from start to finish, incorporating tunes that are straight soul like Lonely Avenue and Expressway to Your Heart, other stuff that is more jazzy like Save Mother Earth and Man Child, and some funky stuff like My Problems Got Problems and the phenomenal Welcome to the Basement. Merle Saunders, Jerry Garcia, Tom Fogerty, John Kahn and Bill Vitt tear it up. An album well worth tracking down if you don't have it already, just peak Jerry and Merle. CD was Released in 1992 and is includes most of the songs from the 1970s albums Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence, I think.

    Another gem is Hooteroll?, a jazz fusion masterpiece from Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales. That is a great album, great to listen to from start to finish, cohesive and gorgeous music.

    I think it was something in the air, 'cause there were just a lot of musical styles and genres being mixed together or teased apart into something new during that period from the late '60s to the mid-'70s. Funk flowing out of soul, jazz fusion explorations by a bunch of artists, the emergence of electronica with stuff like I Feel Love, lots of cool stuff all happening in a relatively short fertile time. Musical forms are constantly shifting, blending, and distilling new stuff through time, but that late '60s to mid '70s period seems like a particularly fertile time, especially for the mixing of jazz, soul, funk, blues, and rock and roll into new forms combining elements of each and taking them in new directions.

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    Still going with Boston Garden '91.

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    VGUY, that should be awesome. I read about it in Bass Player magazine. Interviews with both Les Claypool and Geddy Lee. They asked Geddy what he thought of Les trying to do this and Geddy teasingly said he was nuts!
    Hopefully they’ll be a big brown beaver sighting?

    CHARLIE: interesting how you heard of SJ. Even more so how many of us come to certain music, fascinating really.
    I heard if it after reading an article by Michael Chabon in Rolling Stone about his at the time new book Telegraph Ave (which I liked), but in this article he gets into this Soul Jazz that I’d never heard of, and I’ve been into lots of Jazz fir quite some time. It’s hard to pinpoint and like many styles or genres it casts a wide range: from syrupy string laden Mizel brothers productions all the way to more standard Jazz played by more recognizable names. The sweet spot to me is very much like what Merl and Jerry do on say 9/1/74, or the recent GarciaLive Vol 18, or on Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence etc. I like the oft used description of “Jazz with a backbeat”.
    I have maybe 2-3 dozen albums but would say these are good ones to start with:
    Donald Byrd: Black Bird
    Charles Earland: Black Talk and Leaving this Planet with Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson
    Idris Muhammad: Power of Soul (title track is awesome Hendrix cover), and a (2 for 1) of Black Rhythm Revolution, and Peace & Rhythm.
    Deodato: Prelude
    Grover Washington Jr.: I like Inner City Blues and Mister Magic the best. Earth Tones off Magic is nice groovy mellow almost new age like? One of my favorites of his. I think Magic is a good first choice. Soul Box is pretty good too. I’d say ya might not like all the tracks on all the albums depending how your pleasure tends, but if you made an 80 minute best of from the three you’d have a super cd. If that helps? But I’d advise anyone interested to check out stuff online first.
    There’s a good series of compilations out called the Legends of Acid Jazz that has some good treatments of many of the main cats, like genre guitar go to’ Melvin Sparks, and Leon Spencer, George Benson dabbles around the Soul Jazz edges. Jimmy Smith Back at the Chicken Shack is old school, and Dr Lonnie Smith is another of many keyboard/organists. One of the cool things is how like jazz, so many of the main dudes play on each other’s albums.
    Many more but those are good starts.
    The cool thing is it’s easy to Segway into things like MMW: End of the World Party and Uninvisble, and even on to the Beastie Boys, yes those Beasties Boys: The In Sound From Way Out and The Mix Up. I think of Curtis/Superfly as another cousin to all this. Herbie Hancock Head Hunters fits too.
    To me SJ is like another kind of jazz fusion. Not the scorching Miles or Return To Forever etc, which is more rock like to my ears, but like a funky soul stew of jazz, soul and rock. Perhaps like some Motown cats played jazz?
    As I say, sometimes hard to pin point, and certainly not for everyone, but to me it’s like the Garcia/licorice story.
    Not everyone will like it, but those who do will love it!

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    ....yea. Primus will be playing it. Contemplating taking some fungus along 🤔.

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    My exposure to soul jazz or acid jazz is limited and mainly consists of listening to Fusion FM hosted by Roy Ayers in Grand Theft Auto IV in Liberty City, not sure if that's exactly on point. Nice stuff, a mellow, jazzy, psychedelic vibe to some of it as I recall. Mister Magic by Grover Washington Jr is on my list of future acquisitions, maybe some Roy Ayers as well, who knows once I get started in that direction, just haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully Mister Magic is before the transition to Kenny G. that you describe, Oro. Grand Theft Auto in its various iterations actually turned me on to a bunch of great stuff on the various radio stations. Cool to just drive around listening to the radio, sparking the occasional police chase or just looking for hidden stuff. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Not a bad option as far as an option for a time vacuum. You know you're hitting the GTA a little hard when you start to notice all the unique stunt jumps when you're driving around in the real world. (GTA fiends may get it, the rest of you will just have to play the game excessively, then take a drive in the real world.)

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    Mary says the tech team is looking in to why you can’t post.

    Thanks Mary!

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    Saw Sugar Pie DeSanto and Etta James both play at the S.F. Blues Festival, also saw Etta James play with the Dead in 1982. Next box is gonna be something from 90,91, 92, possibly Winterland March 1977. I hope its something from 1969/1970 with acoustic material included.

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    To quote the great Chris Berman!
    What a game! Now that was sports worth watching.
    The outcome does not surprise me. The Bolts are like a bad case of the clap that just won’t go away, and I mean that as a complement!

    AJS: well said as usual. I agree. Pretty much sums it all up.
    MIKE: LOL. and yeah, Kadri’s “enthusiasm” can sometimes be a little nerve racking.
    PF: love the cup jokes etc, and the energizer bunny, hell last night I felt like I was doing speed!
    Dark-Star: good to see ya xxoo. Sounds like your the drunk yelling from the arm chair. I’m just showing solidarity for my fellow Americans, and VGUY, STOLZTY, PANCHO, PT BARNUM etc.
    VGUY/PRIMUS: will they be doing Farewell to Kings? Either way should be cool! Have Fun!

    CHARLIE: cool stuff, thanks for the good read! Brought up so many awesome aural memories. You guys ever check out Soul or Acid Jazz (prefer Soul as Acid is not really appropriate). Charles Earland, Donald Byrd, Idris Muhammad, Melvin Sparks, Deodato, Jimmy Smith, Dr Lonnie Smith, Grover Washington Jr. (before he went all Kenny G) and so many more. Fits right next to Curtis the Superfly Pusherman etc, GOOD SHEET MON!
    Lots of crossover between Soul, Motown Jazz etc. I always felt much of what Merl and Jerry were up to fit in this category. And Disco is perhaps cousins to all this? I like to make my own sorta best of CDs, and I made a killer 2 disc version for a friends young daughter who loved disco. But we like it too, it can be fun stuff, hell folks used to dis The Bee Gees but if you really check out their music it’s pretty solid (and those boys burned like chimneys. My cousin worked on their studio and said no burned like the BeeGees) and I Feel Love, that was my opening track! And what a great stoner song. Put that on a big stereo set up with good stereo imaging, get prepped ; ) , and sit in the sweet spot and check it out. It sounds amazing and that cool auto pan stuff is right outta Healy and Mickeys bag of tricks.

    Ah yes, Music, sweet, sweet music, the antidote to what ails ya and the ills of the world.
    As Mr Ones would say, Music is the best! Crazy how much great music there is…

    CONEKID: almost forgot ya. I can understand your ongoing feud. Took us awhile to get over the Wings lol.
    And as a life long Buffalo fan for good or for Ill, it’s still hard to like the Dolphins (sorry vguy) Dallas, and I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to root for the Patsies, even without Brady and Gronk!
    I’m just curious, is because of the overall war that was that great rivalry or perhaps just the Lemieux issues?
    I’m trying to remember, I’ll have to look for that show you mentioned.

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    Hahaha. See what I did there. 🤭

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    You are correct, DaveRock, Donna Summer's I Feel Love is great, if I'm in the mood for some Donna it's either that track or Love to Love You Baby more often than not.

    Sugar Pie DeSanto is awesome, one of my favorites. Soulful Dress is a great tune and she has a lot more just as good, or in a couple cases even better. I picked up a couple of CD's by her and Go Go Power, the complete Chess Singles is a smoker from start to finish, the better of the two that I picked up. Soulful Dress, Do I Make Myself Clear, In The Basement (with Etta James) and Mama Didn't Raise No Fools stand out in my memory at the moment as highlights of that collection. Do I Make Myself Clear is absolutely on fire.

    And, yeah, the Stax boxes, the first three were an early acquisition for me in my soul collection, but there is also a fourth Stax Box - Rarities and the Best of the Rest - that covers some soul rarities, some gospel, and some of the other stuff released on Stax and related labels that ranges outside the soul category. That fourth one is not quite as consistently good as the first three, but it does have a few things that got in my head and my completist nature left me no choice but to pick it up.

    For something from this century that sounds like it could have been released in the 1970's, check out Charles Bradley, particularly the track Ain't It a Sin. If you can watch him do Ain't It a Sin online on the you post it video site and not want to pick up some of his stuff I would be surprised. Started checking Charles out when I saw an article about his soulful cover of Black Sabbath's Changes, good stuff, cool version of the song.

    And Curtis Mayfield, started checking him out when a friend suggested the Superfly soundtrack, and all it took was the song Pusherman to get me seeking out more Curtis, not to mention my dawning realization that the HBO show the Wire had a bunch of Curtis playing at various points and I dug it. Give Pusherman a listen and see if you can sit still. There's a good box set - Curtis, Keep On Keeping On, Curtis Mayfield Studio Albums 1970-974, a good way to get all his albums at once for a great price. The HBO show the Sopranos also had a bunch of soul tunes scattered throughout, I'm still looking to track down a copy of the song Sally Go 'Round the Roses by the Jaynettes. Or rather, I just picked up a copy this morning, further support for the hypothesis that I have an online shopping problem and a near pathological need to expand my CD collection.

    I'll try and shut up now, but once I start down the soul rabbit-hole I can't stop.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Hard Case Crime published some great hard boiled crime novels a few years back - with superb lurid covers. Cornell Woolrich is another great writer in that field - "Darkness At Dawn" a collection of his early short stories is a good one.

Ian Dury offered some free advice in one of his songs -maybe "Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll". The free advice offered was something like - "Don't take nothing that is cut price/You know what that'll make you be".

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I once saw him fall off his bar stool in a pub in Notting Hill. I guess it can happen to anyone.

I will have to check out the Burroughs letters volume you suggested. I did enjoy Burroughs Junkie and Queer, which are quite straight forward compared to the later experiments and cut-ups. Though lost in a move, I highly recommend the Allen Ginsberg box set Holy Soul, Jelly Roll. Some of the live recordings are absolutely stunning. Some early, quite beautiful and emotional recordings of America, Kaddish, Howl, etc. Lots of lesser known works too of course. But going up through the 80s with some recordings with the Clash.

Although adjacent to the Beats, I recently found my copy of Gary Snyder’s Mountains and Rivers without End that I bought at City Lights many years ago. Great poems.

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If you are ever in N Beach, besides City Lights there is also a Beat Museum, whose book selection is out of control. Definitely read Off the Road if you haven't yet, also Junky by Bill Burroughs is probably his best (and pretty much only readable book for that matter). The First Third by Neal is better than you might think. Hell's Angels isn't Beat, but a damn good read. If you are looking for something really obscure, get And the Hippos Were Boiled in their Tanks, a collab between Kerouac and Burroughs. Happy ready ya burnouts!

Went to the tour opener, Dodger Stadium is HIGHLY recommended! The playin' not so much, hoping they are just a bit rusty. LA, cheesy as hell but sunny and maybe the world's best tacos, so can't complain....

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Great sound
Good performance
Nice setlist
No X factor

I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like 2 23 71 to get Norman-ed

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But Burroughs' other books seem impenetrable. And let's add another fascinating if somewhat lurid read: Owsley and Me: My LSD Family by Rhoney Gissen Stanley with Tom Davis.

On the music front, from the St Louis box, I absolutely loved the 12-10-71 show and the way it embodied loose rockin' fun, yet built nicely to a crescendo.

Enjoying the literature discussion, folks. I've purchased more than a handful of used paperbacks over the past week or so.

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We're getting lots of smoke here in W. Colo.
The Haywire fire said to be near Flagstaff.
You OK down there?
Best wishes.

HF: Just finished your Across the Northern Frontier. Thanks, good read and helped tie together some other reads lately about this area.

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Ha! I bought a couple books on this forum, too! Great conversation.

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Considering getting the 50th anniversary release of GD first album, which features a whole cd of Vancouver 66. Is the Vancouver show worth having another copy of GD first album?

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I would say yes

Think of it as getting Vancouver with a bonus feature of 1st GD lp

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If you're willing to take a book recommendation from a stranger to posting on this forum, there is a great hard-boiled crime book from Mexico written in 1969 called, The Mongolian Conspiracy by Rafael Bernal. It is out in english, and oh, the protagonist's name is Garcia. Peace.

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Arrived today. Great stuff.

I am reading about the Keystone as I listen. The place seemed so cool. I’d be curious to hear some feedback from anyone who actually got to see Garcia play there.

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I have been listening to escape from new York new expanded edition soundtrack. One of John carpenter's best movies. The soundtrack is hypnotic. Has Anybody else played it? I think it sounds like tangerine dream, kinda?

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I'll check out this book. Thanks. I'm a book worm.

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I had to drive into Flagstaff today...as I went down Hwy 64 and looked to the Southeast it looked like a volcano erupting...from 75 miles away i could see the smoke roiling at the bottom of the horizon, changing colors...scary...the Pipeline fire, it is believed, was started by a camper burning used toilet paper...to add to all of this was wind conditions that blew a steady 30 MPH with gusts over 50 MPH....hats off to all the responders and local volunteers who helped with the evacuation of livestock and animals from a local shelter that was forced to leave the grounds...tomorrow winds drop down radically and temps do too....

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JJSOCH - I haven't heard the recordings you mention of Allen Ginsberg, but I have seen him on film, and his words take on a different meaning when you hear him speak them as opposed to just reading them. That definitely applies to William Burroughs too. I missed a lot of his humour when reading the books, but it's very apparent when you hear him read . It's the way he tell's 'em, as British comedian Frank Carson used to say. I used to have a cassette of him reading "Junky" that was great-plus a few from the early 1990s, I think, backed by electronic type music. One called "Junkies Lament" I think-I forget the title - but it's a great story. Incredible voice.

Nick1234 - I hear what you mean about Joni Mitchell on the Rolling Thunder Revue box. Lord have mercy. I'm not so sure about Joan Baez, either. Obviously a beautiful singer and person - but I'm not so sure her particular talents fit in with those of Bob Dylan when they are duetting. She sounds a bit too operatic to me. Reminds me of how it might sound if a world famous opera singer -Placido Domingo or someone - would have sounded joining The Stones on stage and duetting with Mick Jagger on Honky Tonk Women.

re Ian Dury hitting the deck in Notting Hill Gate - according to Charles Shaar Murray, acclaimed journalist at the time, falling over got you accepted.

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Nitecat- yes, definitely worth getting. I don't know if it is still available, but it also came out on vinyl a few years ago , without the first album.

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Came in yesterday,,,, nice package.

I like the "full size" "booklets" that come with the LP's.

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Howdy all,

I had listened to the new Dave's Pick a couple times in my car and enjoyed it. This weekend I had some time to play it on my main system with some nice speakers and to sit down with a proper head change and take it in. Wow!
The quality of the recording really struck me. This show has great stereo separation and clarity. Really nice. I haven't had another 74 show on the stereo in a while so hard to compare, but the audio quality on this really struck me.
Great show too. I really enjoy the He's Gone and the big Other one >Eyes. What an Eyes of the World. Band really gets going. Always Grateful to receive and enjoy these shows. Pretty amazing.

Another recent musical revelation is the album "Four Sail" by the band Love. Some great, crazy, psychedelic rock and roll. "Forever Changes" seems to the be Love album that everyone talks about, but I've been really taken with Four Sail. It's a bit edgier and wilder to my ears. 69 Dead type vibes.

Hope everyone is staying well and having fun out there. Cheers ya'll.

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I hiiiiiiiighly recommend

6/4/78

I feel this should be a Daves someday

Very high energy

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Hey please feel welcome to cannonball into the discussion. Unless I have to buy another book...

So to that I say, I'll mention one more -- a bit morbid -- The History of Torture: From Primitive Snake Pits, Medieval Thumbscrews, and Iron Maidens to Modern Brainwashing by Daniel Mannix (1964). Folks, it doesn't get much darker than this. Cut to the chase: the bulk of torture techniques were invented by Christians and used to utterly destroy people who didn't toe the line. Read it while whistling "Singing in the Rain.".... It's, um, gripping...

Okay, back to reality... hey Nappy, good luck to you, all locals, and the first responders with the fire. We're all in this together.

And FirstShow, hey thanks for reading my first book. It coulda, shoulda, woulda been a lot better but the subsequent works vindicated my path.

GarciaLive 18 in the house... Probably spin it when I'm back from oral surgery in the morning. At least we don't live anymore in the "whiskey and pliers" dental extraction age, like Mark Twain did. Oh yeah, if any of you have not read Roughing It by MT, by god, drop everything, light a spleef and laugh your ass off. Hunter Thompson had nothin' on MT...

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...Pretty Mama...54 years ago today I graduated high school...wheee...being only 17 I was still 5 months away from fun and games with Selective Service...and instead of going to the grad party I went to the Shrine Expo Hall to see Fleetwood Mac, The Chambers Brothers & Chuck Berry....

The Dead Kennedys open a track with Jello Biafra speaking "God told me to skin you alive."

Very strange how "Christians" could be (and some probably still are) so horrible to others. If you have ever read the Gospels, Jesus never says "go forth and maim plentifully". Of couse, JC himself had an unenviable exit from mortal life...

HEY. BE NICE!!!

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Be Nice

Respect the 10th commandment. Thy shall not steal thy neighbor's catalytic converter.

It's in imperfect world, I'd like to think we do our best. No time to hate.

Estimated - I played that again last night after reading your post. It is a great album with some fiery guitar playing. I only bought it about two years ago, so it hasn't seeped into my mind the way "Forever Changes" did-I got that one over 40 years ago, so its one those albums that almost becomes part of you after a while.
One thing though -it ( Four Sail) doesn't really seem like a Love album to me. The only ones that do are the first three, with the original line up. From that line up, original guitarist Johnny Echols is playing a few dates in London later this summer.

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to say Hey Now deadheads, DP 42 is a good one. Now, how about Gainesville?

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Toni Morrison is heavy duty

Her stuff won't make you think of sunshine lollipops and rainbows

But she'll make you think

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I thought the 10th commandment was about the Fillmore West Box Set.

Boy I miss lynx. Remember Mel Brooks History of the World: “these 15, (drops a tablet) I mean these 10 commandments”

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Have a lil' snack
Go walking at super low tide at Puget Sound
Listening to Quicksilver MS Happy Trails on headphones

Yeah

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Hey Proud, enjoy the low tide, lowest in like a decade, should make for some terrific beach combing. Stuck at work so jealous. Also, Sea Times had an article today that made me laugh about the comments earlier "Washington ranks No. 1 in catalytic converter theft in U.S." BOOOOOOOOOO

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CC

If you have a Prius, have the shield installed underneath.

At times, it _was_ a little pungent, Burnsy...

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I worked as a projectionist when Escape From New York was in the theater. That movie is ingrained in my brain. One of my favorite below radar movies. Finally, after decades, about a month ago, I watched Escape From LA. Did not do it to me, as it was not nearly as good writing or moving making. The special effects look cheesy today. Then 2 days ago I recorded EFNY on my dvr from a commercial free movie channel. Cant wait to watch it. Always wanted to have a car with chandeliers on the front. Just know, I would finally look cool.

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recaptcha is a bitch to deal with

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But I want your magic bus

You can’t have it

But I want your catalytic converter

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Your boys came out flying, but Tampa is tough. A team full of grinders who don’t get rattled.

Again. The guy’s name is Kucherov. He makes other NHL players look foolish out there. Insane skills.

Good luck in period 3.

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....why do some straight people feel so threatened and offended by gay people? Mind your own business! Ain't no time to hate. I'll never get it I guess. 🌈
Onto this 3rd period!!

I don't know.. stop reading and you stop learning. Perhaps instead of the news read more history which seems to somehow keep repeating itself.

The answer, as inconvenient as it might,.. is not to read less.

I always thought deadheads were given a bad rap.. their heads (at least the ones I hung around) were far from dead, generally well informed, pragmatic, level headed. Quick thinking if for no other reason because they didn't want anyone to focus on what might or what might not be in that satchel left absent mindedly on the back seat...

We didn't want drama and we seemed to know what was up. Be smart or be in cuffs. Oh, and we really really liked to enjoy life, hence this incredible music and cultural Meca we seemed to enjoy.

Thats all I have.. As you were..

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I agree with you on the EFNY 2. It must have been fun as the projectorist on the original escape from new York. I love how Bob hauk said " I'm ready to kick your ass out of this world, war hero."

It seems to me that people who feel threatened by gay people are afraid of something that is different from the way they themselves are. Or of the way they actually are, but are afraid to face up to. If that's the case it's a form of self hatred.

But fear of the "other" has a ghastly reach across all sections of most societies. Fear of people who talk differently, dress differently, think differently, come from a different ethnic background, come from a different class.......you could go on, and on and on and...

If you think you are not like that yourself - the likelihood is that you are, you just aren't aware of it.

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I gave that a listen yesterday
Niiice.

Two things that distracted me...
Scarlet...Jerry disappears for while... that has always deflated some of the show's power to me
Keith....BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!!!!!

Truckin' is awesome

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37 years and 2 days ago I was at the Greek Theatre for a knockout show with the Good Ole Grateful Dead.. This was one of my favorite shows the Dead played at the Greek. Great 1st set , 2nd set set opens with Morning Dew and closes with Comes a Time. I had an absolute blast at this show! Hopefully, these Greek shows will be released as a box set. 1985, the Greek falls between monster shows at the Frost and Ventura, all release worthy.

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