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  • 1stshow70878
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    Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
    After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
    Cheers

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    I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

    I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

    As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

    That's all I have for now.

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    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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    Agree..

    Can anyone tell me why we did not get a Winterland '74 Box Set? The box design would, of course, been a mini Wall of Sound.

    Wars have been fought for less.

    Oh, the horror.

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I’ll give 11/1/79 a spin

Wooooster? Ya mean Harshford?
Mexican dirt weed. Hey, that’s about all we could get BITD.
But hey, that’s what double albums were for, cleaning your weed! My original go to was Skullfuck which still has the stains to prove it lol. Until recently, my vinyl was still at my folks. One time after decades of them sitting there, I happened to check em out and lol, there was still a little left in the bottom!

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Ooopps, sorry Jim, forgot about Boxilla Wooooster show? Thought maybe you were losing it, but once again it’s me who’s ahem, “confused” “damn kids, get off my lawn” but Pedro, those aren’t kids, their prairie dogs!
I need to hit that one, (10/21/83) but since I’m at work I’m gonna keep on the DV 79 train and finish the last of these Nassau shows from 11/2/79.
Perhaps 11/1 was a bit more consistent, but hard to tell when not back to back listening etc? 10/31 was perhaps a bit more fun? But on 11/1 loved the jam outta Scarlet, Fire, Playing etc.?
Good shows so looking forward to this last one.
Happy Friday peoples, remember to keep the blue side up!

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oh yea, it was 30 Trips not a Dickus Pickus. My bad.. still, I am pretty sure it only had one listen and was fun to revisit.

Ended up hitting the Spectrum 83 Dave's Picks. I might be starting to get this period out of my system.

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Hey OB, glad you are digging these shows. I mean, I think these are so good, five dancing bears. Sound quality is fantastic. Nice Jack Straw opener. Really good Peggy O, Jerry nails it. Easy to Love you. The epic Scarlet Fire is a fun ride. Terrapin, Playing, what a combo.
Okay good to hear you are moving to 11/2/ OB, I was waiting on that but will keep it going and don't forget Providence on 11/4. I would think Bluecrow would enjoy these shows and Jim.
Better yet box all these shows up and they will fly off the shelf.

Okay back to more 79.

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Yep, good sheep Mon! I’m not sure I have quite the same level of enthusiasm as you, but that’s nit picking personal taste BS. Like I liked, but perhaps not 5 star liked (no offense intended).
We should definitely do Providence, but would like to please wait until Monday or Tuesday so I can listen at work if that’s ok? Hoping to get some stereo time in this WE so would like something more high fidelity. Perhaps I should hit that Wooooooster show? Or…? Maybe hit another E72 Dark Star disc, think I left off on 5/7? Yeah, I’ll probably graze a little rather than trying to cram whole shows in?

Stay cool up there DV, paddle on Jimmy, good vibes to all,
Be well, play dead!

PS, maybe Doc will give us another history lesson during the week?

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Monday or Tuesday definitely works for Providence OB. Hey I hear you, opinions always vary and that is okay, in fact encouraged. But I do like to give praise to the underrepresented years. Come on, when will we start to see some more variety with the official releases? So many great shows out there.
Maybe 4/7/72 is up next?
You all enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Hey there rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Providence June 26, 1974

I hadn’t planned on venturing outside my current comfort zone, and yet here we are. Is that not also a form of deception?

My second show. High school graduation present from my brother, he and his best friend took me and my bestie, we sat in the back of his old Cadillac on the way there, on arrival we were closer to the outer rings of Saturn than the Providence Civic Center………….

We went in one way, and came out………..shall we say…………changed?!!

The unusual and unexpected Big River opener. The very tasty, jammy, pre-Fire Scarlet Begonias. The Race Is On, Half Step, Let It Grow, the lovely short jam leading into the fine China/Rider, the big, big second set jam, and the mind boggle Eyes Of The World encore.

This was art, strong liquid sonic magic, deep and wide, mellow, but with an edge, much unknown to our ears, jams from the depths of the cosmos drawing us in to things we could not yet comprehend, the music truly playing the band. And tho’ it was night time, sunshine shredded our young minds…………..

While my first show had been the previous December this is the night I got on the bus. And just as we chased Augusta after October 12, 1984, we chased Providence for over ten years after this night of wonders….

A big chunk of the second set—and the encore—was officially released as part of Dick’s Picks on October 15, 1998. There are also very good circulating complete soundboard copies, including a Miller remaster. Venture forth, and listen!

I believe music is like medicine, like a good tonic, it can open your mind, strengthen and possibly even cure you.

Rock on,

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Hey folks!!!

Apologies and gentle reminder to read the fine print. Providence 74 was my second show, Boston Music Hall December 1 1973 was my first show. LOL that much I remember............

See that the imagination of nature is far, far greater than the imagination of man........

Rock on!!

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An apology might help, but you can change your life without one..........

And what a great second show it must have been.

Two PCs down in a very short period of time.. makes my digital library sort of inconvenient. I streamed the first set from the archive, I cannot remember the last time I have listened to it. So glad they started releasing complete shows. Very nice so far, especially the WRS.

Been listening to a lot of 74 lately, which is not a bad way to burn through the longest days of 2022. I have the second set from Dickus Pickus 12, so it's grab and goable.. so off I go. Great pick.

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Okay, because this thread is still not Grateful Dead of the Day, moving on to 11/4/79 for those interested.

6/26/74-I have Dick's 12 and listened to the Miller for the first time and the full show is outstanding. What a ride. Wall of Sound.

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With both PC's on injured reserve.. I can't get this to any of my devices. I will do a winter 79 show in it's honor, perhaps DiP 5.

Hoping to get the PC situation resolved this week.. Onward.

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Congratulations OB. Champions! Great finals. Hope there wasn't to much damage to the Cup.

Hope you are able to get those PC issues resolved Jim. Those issues can be changeling.

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No Bueno! Not a fan, but a necessary evil. You didn’t lose your music did ya?

DV, rolling through 11/4/79. Another beauty.
Really dig the space and weirdness jams on many of these fall 79s.

Hit that 10/21/83 Worcester yesterday from Boxilla Jim brought up. May have sorta heard it once but gave it a sit down, er lie down on the couch lol yesterday and it was really good. Pretty tight for 83 and sounded pretty darn good all things considered. Interesting how different TOG is even after a year. That was one that seemed to take awhile before they all got together on it.

Then, Only had time for the Dicks section of 6/24/74, but good sheep to be sure. I think those awesome weird jams would of gone over my head as a tenderfoot starting out, but nowadays, that’s the stuff!

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Or, where have all the flowers gone?

Ok, we’ve had a taste of 74, a nice lil 79 binge, how bout 8/28/82, the other Veneta!
Somehow ive not checked this one out so since nobody’s ventured a pick, I say we spend some quality time with ole Babs & Co.
by the by, hope Babs is recovering nicely from his medical setbacks, and is back to his normal shenanigans soon!

EDIT: ooo doggie, anyone digs 82 should check this one out. No crazy standout stuff, but Phil is on! the sound from the Miller was good (pitch maybe a tad off( and the band plays a solid, good energy show! Interesting early West LA too!

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Okay, late to the party OB. Been crazy busy trying to finish a ton of work before the annual summer vacation, but no excuses, will get this going tomorrow.

July 1 already on Friday.

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the time is right, for Griswalds to hit the streets.

Yep, busy time, hopefully that’s why it’s been quiet here?
But work still needs to be finished, which requires heavy heavy fuel, or in our case Grateful Dead!
So since we’ve been digging 82 this year, and I loved 8/28 yesterday, figure we’ll forge onward, through the fog, like a headlight on a north bound train with 8/8/82.
I’m sure most are familiar with the previous night from Dickus Pickus etc, but I’ve never heard anyone speak of this one. Well, maybe Bluecrow as he’s a resident mid west aficionado?
Either way, it looks good on paper and via review, so without Futhur ado…
Rollin!

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Thanks for keeping us rolling OB and I will absolutely hit this one after I finish up Oregon 82. Not the usual amount of shows for the Dead in 82 but man there are a ton of riches in this year. Good to see you Bluecrow. Where is Otis? School must be out.

Did not get much of 8/8/82 in yesterday as life just won’t let me be lately.
So going to be kind and rewind today.
Yeah, where’s Otis!

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What a great show. Really enjoyed it. Sound quality is fantastic. Good first set, Minglewood, Althea, It's all over now, great China Rider to close the first set. Ken Babs and Day Job to start the second set, hey I liked it. I like these early versions of West LA Fadeaway. Great run out of space with The Wheel, The Other one, Truckin, BP, Playing reprise, OMSN and close out with a Dupree's encore. Man, what a show. Thanks for picking this one OB.
Okay. Alpine here I come.

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They opened the second set with it when I saw them at The Rainbow 3/24/81. I was perched up in the balcony, and I can remember people moving out of their seats to dance. Great stuff. They also played a good version at Essen Germany a few days later.

Wrong section! Never mind.

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We love a good Shakedown here too! I post things in the wrong place all the time..

I remember early on in my tape trading days I scored a good sounding tape of the Essen W. Germany show.. this one circulated pretty freely, so it really wasn't super special.. still, a school buddy managed to talk me into 'trading' a box of tapes with him, he rummaged through my collection and took this and a few others, one being a great sounding 6/29/76 with the last and arguable the best Mission in the Rain they ever did. He talked me into forking up my originals and promised to return them with a box of his own. That was the end of that, I never saw him again. This was the last time I forked up originals. It took me until the archive came out to replace some of them. Live and learn..

Still, I liked that show even the Complete Pete sitting in on the second set.

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I made the mistake of going upstairs before posting to check the date of the Rainbow show in Deadbase. Then when I came down I somehow ended up in the wrong place. For some reason I can never remember the dates when I saw them in March and October 1981-every time the subject comes up, I have to go and check. I probably didn't even know the dates on the days of the shows.

Quickly before I go - the first set of Essen was broadcast live on British television - I can remember this girl coming up to me in the pub earlier in the evening to remind me. The whole show was broadcast on the radio, so it was one of the first tapes I got. Good Sugaree if I remember rightly.

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Got my main PC up and running. No data loss.. I am back in business and plan to catch up on a few of the shows from earlier in the week.

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8/28/82 ,Crazy fun times had by all! 1982, what a great year, Greek Frost , Ventura & December Oakland shows, BIG FUN! Back to the bbq.

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The complete show was broadcast on German TV and Radio in Stereo. I think this was a very good show of the Grateful Dead, not only Sugaree, but also Shakedown Street, Looks like rain, Deal … the whole second set …

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Fellow rockers!!

Pick Of The Day: Reed’s Ranch, Colorado Springs, Colorado, July 3, 1969

The Dead played some odd and interesting places in 1969, this fits that bill perfectly. It appears that this was a one-off event, and also featured Holden Caulfield (a late 60s garage band), Zephyr (a hard rock band from Boulder), and Alice Cooper (at the time relatively unknown, although they had put out one album under that name already). Admission was $4. Preliminary research suggests that this may have been the only concert ever held at the ranch. It appears that the concert was held in a large barn, lots of people got in for free, and the enterprise lost money. Apparently the ranch itself no longer exists, possibly replaced by a housing development.

The show itself is interesting and typical of the Summer 69 shows: Green Green Grass of Home-Slewfoot-Sittin’ on Top of the World-Morning Dew-High Time-Me and My Uncle-Casey Jones-Hard to Handle-He Was a Friend of Mine-Lovelight

Some old things retained, new covers and originals being worked in. An unusual 69 show, without a Dark Star or Other One. In fact, there’s almost no jamming to be found here at all. Even so, worth a listen, especially if you like oddball Dead. And the Miller remaster itself is quite listenable.

And for all you Lovelight fans out there (lol all three of us!), this one is solid and runs for about 27 minutes before the tape ran out just before the end……………

I can't wait to get back to the ranch and go back to easy living.

Rock on!

Doc
Well, I can do certain jobs because smells don't bother me, but that means I'm usually the one at the ranch cleaning up all the manure……

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Pretty sure this was on here a couple months ago as a Tapers or Jam-o-week.
Maybe I just looked it up after finding that Denver show my sister attended.
The Slew Foot reminded me as I hadn't heard that one in like 10 years or more.
And didn't even know they had ever done Green Grass of Home.
Cheers and happy Independence Day

Hey Wolf1905, yes, I have seen that show several times. Great show. I believe this is the one with Pete Townshend towards the end of the show.
Hope you all have a good fourth.

We definitely will have a Dave's announcement for #43 the second week of this month.

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That one was not on my radar. Love Essen too.. since there isn't too much interest and people are probably out and about why not hit Essen W. Germany today and pick something fresh tomorrow?

Happy 4th all.. for those across the pond or down yonder.. have a little extra fun, summer's here and the time is right for dancing in the streets (1970's style). Hey 4.15.70 would be a hoot too..

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..was nice. Like food for the soul. This one has special meaning for me simply because I had it when I just cutting on my teeth on GD/life/munchables and coping with it all. The Shakedown rose a little probably because there is so much attention on shakedown.

Ok.. I am oscillating from a deep 74 dig but came up like the working man I am leaning on some 80's for energy and productivity. In addition to Rockpalast, I bit off the Hartford 87 shows from Dave's Picks (36???). Lots of crowd noise but good outdoor working man's music. I got a lot done.

Any aversion to pivoting to 7/1/85 followed up by 11/2/85? Two off the radar shows. Nothing spectacular here but I recall both being very good in relation to the tours they were nested in.

So two, pick your fav. no need to do both but they fill a void, are good shows and off the beaten path.

Or not.. feel free to listen to whatever works. Summer's here and the time is right.

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I watched the video of this show again. If you haven't seen it, you should check it out. Yes Jim, the Shakedown is really good. The video and the sound of this show is great. Townshend seemed a little out of place in NFA and Jerry shows his stuff in Wharf Rat. Great high energy 81 show.
I am traveling today so can't access Relisten for those 85 shows, but will hit them this weekend.

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I don't see one listed for today so ho about 7-10-90, Carter Finley Stadium?

There's a nice official video on youtube that they rolled out last year i'm watching/listening to.

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Dove into summer 92, which no one seems to like, so went solo.
Why you say? Why not! Lol.
Actually, started because I wanted to hit my 30 year anniversary of my one and only show employed by the GD, sorta.
Long story short, I was able to work production for the 7/1/92 tour closer. Amazing experience!
I recall the show being sorta typical of the times slow build into good but not mind blowing etc., but had never checked it out.
So listening all these years later, I stsrted out thinking “this is not a good show”, but as was often the case it starts morphing and by the second set I was enjoying it. The jams with Steve Miller and Norton Buffalo were great, actually augmented/added nicely instead of the often awkwardness that happens with guests. The West LA is definitely a cool version. Not a bad tour ender and glad I finally listened!
7/1/92
6/26/92: since we hit 6/25 recently. Ok, status quo, perhaps a little disappointing considering? Great Crazy Fingers during this era!
5/29/92
5/30/92
5/31/92.
A fine little WE in the desert. Nothing mind blowing, but nothing bad either, just a nice solid run of shows with an overall nice build up. To me highlights were the ridiculous mid show raves as centerpiece with the accompanying songs: Crazy Fingers>Playing>Rave>Watchtower>China Doll, Smokestack>Terrapin>Rave>Spanish Jam, Rave>Attics>Spoonful, and really, the rest of the last night.
I’ve been finding i like 92 for what it is and a nice sorta change, especially from the 70s repetitiveness. Vince dosent bother me me as much as he used to, though I’ve noticed a few habits that can get old. But to much of anything makes Jack a dull boy, so gave 7/3/69 a spin, followed by 7/1/85. The 69 was ok, perhaps a little ragged early, but interesting different material. By LL I was ready to move on. Another interesting snapshot from the less traveled summer if 69.
7/1/85 was a little slow to gel too. By LIG things were moving, and the second set was a bit of a rager. Sorta good bookend to 69: not always the cleanest, but hang on! Forgot how great those 85 spaces can be!
Might try to catch Essen this WE, but now SDN has 7/10/90 up on the board, so who knows?
For now, just drifting and dreaming…

Overachiever and proud of it! Good job, OB.

I can do 7/10/90 today (I think)..

I only made it through 7/1/85 from my list earlier. I agree with OB's comments, but I do like the revisit of the early arrangement for Dancin' that surfaced in this time. Not a best of show by any means, but there's something about 1985 that's different. It's like taking a break from French Roast and dipping into a double expresso. Love some of the song selections and their willingness to throw new songs and ideas into the ether, especially songs like She Belongs to Me, Comes a Time, etc.

Up early, drinking some strong, strong Italian Roast.

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Hey rockers!!

Pick(s) Of The Day: New York State Pavilion, July 11 and 12, 1969

And you are the easiest person to fool. That being said, there’s not a lot of fooling around here. It can be challenging to explain…….

I lumped these together because they were some of the first “bootleg” 1969 recordings I ever heard. Which means, they’ve been around since the dawn of time, since I am, after all, as old as dust………………..

What to make of these little gems? Difficult to digest, but rewarding. Unlike Reed’s Ranch, there are big jams here, to go along with new material being worked in, good doses of Pigpen, and two Lovelights. Plus a reminder that Mr Robert Weir shouldn’t try to tell jokes………..

The recordings themselves are pretty decent, maybe not “great” and I’m not sure they’re “official release material” (especially the second night, for which only a large fragment circulates), but they served us well back in the day, as they do now.

If I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize.

Rock on,

Doc
I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there……

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Okay Conekid, 7/12/90 sounds good to me. I have never heard this show. Thanks. #43 Announcement coming tomorrow.

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Tap, tap, tap….is this thing on?
Ok, where we’re we?
Watched 3/23/81, and most of 7/10/90 over the past WE, back to back.
Both good in different ways, but man, the level of overall professionalism etc on the 90 video was eye opening.
I just don’t understand how some folks don’t like 89-90? But hey that’s their prerogative and all good!

Caught the 7/11&12/69 shows. Decent, interesting, nice look at JG messin with the pedal steel etc. sound was variable. Nice Live Dead suite etc.
Free ranged 10/6/77 (think y’all did that one awhile back?). Some solid 77. Had a King Biscuit tape early on.
A good show but perhaps more run of the mill comparatively?
Did 7/4/81 on the fourth, and 8/11, 12, and 13/87 recently.
Enjoyed them all. Not a bad one in the barrel, nothing spectacular sticks out either. All are worth a spin, but not must listens. Sorry, everything’s been a frickin blur lately, so not many notes etc.

Bastids are dragging me back to work soon, so I’m sure I’ll be rolling accordingly.
But today I’m enjoying this fine show (so far) from 9/23/82.
Figured a) it’s an 82 which we’ve been focusing on this year, and really enjoying! , b) it’s the show before the Cuse Dome show we were at, and c) since it’s the night after the second MSG night from the upcoming box.
I’ve only heard the 3/9/81 show from said box (it is a goodn), but like to have virginal listens of released shows when possible, so I won’t hit any of the actual shows, but will sneak around some of their neighbors etc to catch the flavor and perhaps some perspective?
Oh, gonna try and watch 7/12/90 this WE on the big screen!
Ok for now. Now if only that dam bear hadn’t filched our beer!

EDIT: 9/23/82. Solid, Most enjoyable. This, and the next night (that I saw), perhaps hopefully being a good indicator that the 82 shows at least are going to be sweet! We’ll poke around the carcass more over the next couple months as (some of us) anxiously await the box drop.

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scene - "tumbleweeds rolling by - only sound, the wind"

awfully quiet in this here town last little while (guilty as charged)

unlike Senator Oro, not much dedicated listening on my part last little bit. got caught up in other stuff. hopefully getting back on track.

that Essen Set I video was awesome (still haven't gotten to Set II). A few years ago in regards to query as to Jerry using a pick vs. finger picking, someone over on archive lynkd to a concert video clip of Jerry playing Althea where he switches between the two techniques at several points in course of the song. He finger picks the main Althea "theme", while using a pick throughout bulk of it I think. The transition is like a magic trick, he tucks the pick between two fingers (index and middle finger stub?) almost like a card sharp - you really don't see the move unless you're laser focused and then you "might" see it. A year ago I tried to contact the guy to find out what show that was (I forgot) but no response. And now I think the video shared to illustrate this might be Essen.

Senator, glad to see that you are picking up the listening slack for the Intermountain Conference. Nice that you got in the '87 Red Rocks shows. Was 2nd row center Night 1 with "extended family" of 10 (personally staked it out after sprinting past the security dude despite his call to stop when they let us in at the lower entrance - I think an impressive uphill run at elevation over 6000 ft.) Was reading that Touch of Grey article via That Mike this morning and thought how freaking lucky I was to get mail order tix for that Red Rocks run (plus Alpine and Pittsburgh) plus Hampton '88 (all while living in rural southern Indiana/Ohio) given how the scene had changed in those days.

Also want to add that both DaP 43 and the Garden box are like manna from heaven. Woo doggies!!

Hope everyone's doing well. Hot and dry here - need some rain. Scene - bluecrow holding a mass produced cheap 16oz cold beer - "Onward !!"

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Hey OB, yes will give this one a listen tonight. Thanks for the pick. New Haven.

Hey Bluecrow, yes super excited about the new box. Dave is giving the audio an A+, I have never heard him say that before and he could not with last year's box. I think it is great they are giving us something new this year. I would have thrown in the 79 shows at the Garden as well, but hey, that is just me.

Enjoy it out there. Enjoying an Oberon right now as well.

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I still have not caught up on my digital media issue after losing a couple of PC's in a couple of weeks. I am back up and running, but.. I still have some work to do getting all my software installed, tuned up and working the way I like.

So I have been listening vicariously through you guys.. and have been hitting a bunch of released shows on my own on devices that are already loaded when I cannot keep up. I'm on a bit of a post hiatus roll.. I did do the 69 shows doc tossed out, Essen and a few others. I also hit the entire May 77 Box (the first one) in sequence, both Hartford 87's, the whole Giants Box, and Deer Creek plus a few others. I've been venturing out into a new hobby which has kept me outdoors a lot, so less PC time and I have always tried to avoid being too attached to a cell phone.

So that's my excuse.. but I am still here and will participate more when the planets are properly aligned. Speaking of planets.. holy crap, what about the James Web telescope.

As you were.. up next is the YouTube of the 90 show. Looking forward to that.

Good show. Sound quality is good. Nice Peggy O, Althea, you get a Touch of Gray, Sailor Saint, good stuff. Nice finish and It's all over now baby blue to end the show.
Good pic OB.

Anyone have an official release suggestion for today?

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Anyone up for Dickus 16 from 11/8/69?
A little taste of the future…

Yep DV good sheet. The next night at the dome they played good too, so I’ll take that as a good sign for the 82 version of the new box. Funny, now that I’m thinking about it, I was at shows 2 shows later in 81 and 82, and at the next 2 nights of 83 (after the garden shows). Once again, missed it by that much ; )