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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • boblopes
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    Most of them were around when I used to work shows for the Student Concert run organization at Univ of Mass Amherst.

    Violent Femmes played UMass to play the Blue Wall, they showed up in an AMC American Eagle and tried to drive up the granite steps and got up about 10 of them before campus cops stopped them. I rode with the Bass Player, Brian Ritchie, to show him how to get to the underground loading dock (the Bat Cave), he was very friendly on the five minute ride around campus.

    My first paid gig was Ted Nugent at EM Lowes in Worcester. I worked the crew and my job during the show was to turn on the house lights at end of show when instructed by Nugent's stage Manager. After first encore, house lights came on and Nugent ran up to me screaming. I had not turned them on - venue manager at front of house did.

    First Stadium paid gig was Willie Nelson in 1984 at Sullivan stadium (Foxboro) with The Band, Neil Young Country, Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson. Busted my hump setting up the sound, so the guy doing Monitors for Neil Young came over and asked if I'd help him out during Neil's show. My job was to move mike stands on and off as needed. I was sitting on a road case next to the Monitor Mix, when this cowboy looking guy came over and sat next to me. He had the largest gold watch I had ever seen, so I figured it was Waylon Jennings. Waylon had this beautiful Telecaster that had leather on the front cover. When we were sitting together he started talking about the weather, so I asked if his Tele was a '54 and he said it was a '53. Later during the show John Schneider (Dukes of Hazard) came over to talk to Waylon, then Willie and Levon Helm came over. Schneider came out to sing a song. It was cool being a fly on a road case.

    By Senior year I was the Stage Manager for the Umass crew, we partnered with the lovely girls at Smith College to work General Public (Dave Wakeling / Ranking Roger from English Beat) in 1987. The band played UPenn the night before and the college crew skipped out before loadout. So their Stage Manager demanded that I supply either the college ID or license for all the people working on my crew. I refused and we decided to have a work stoppage since we were all volunteers, though I received a small stipend to buy the after loadout beers. Dave came over to talk to me. I congratulated him on his new baby girl. Shortly after the stage manager said we did not have to supply id's. After that we were fine, we worked the show and our load out set the record by 30 minutes according to the stage manager. I don't know if that was true or was his way of thanking us. about 10 years ago, Dave Wakeling plays this tiny hall in NH (Tupelo) and after the show we head to the rest rooms in the back. As I wait for my wife, I talk to the girl selling T-Shirts. Turns out she's Dave's daughter. I told her that story, small world.

    Our Spring Concert that year was a free concert at the Pond by the Fine Arts Center. I think the lineup was Spyro Gyra, Lonnie Mack, Queen Latifah and John Butcher Axis was the headliner - it was the lightest in shows I worked at UMass. But Lonnie Mack's drummer was a no show. He did not make the bus from the night before gig. The Production Manager and I went on Lonnie's bus and sat in the back with him. They did not realize it was a daytime show. So they weren't going to play. I asked him if I could get the drummer in the first band to play. He wouldn't go for it. I told him I was a big fan and would be honored to have the guy that played bass on Roadhouse Blues play my last show as the Umass Stage Manager. He said he would. Then I asked the drummer for the fusion band if he'd play, he said sure as long as he got paid. So Lonnie and him worked out the details. They had a ripping good time but we knew bad weather was coming in later that day so we had to stick to the schedule, so I told him to wrap it up and he played for another 10 minutes before I had the monitor guy cut the monitors. Lonnie came off stage and tried to take a swing at the monitor guy.

    I worked at Sullivan Stadium in 1987 as part of the crew for Dylan and the Dead. Load in was amazing, the Dead's crew were really the best of the best. After all the gear was set up, I was hanging out at the FOH soundboard riser watching in amazement as they had this microphone on an small I-Beam with a pully system to slide it left and right during the white noise. I asked questions and they were friendly and explained about the audio spectrometer. Then the band came out for soundcheck and they said we could stay if we wanted but had to leave them alone to work. My buddy and I sat in front of the soundboard to listen. The band was out there minus Bob Dylan and they kept meticulously practicing Knockin' on Heavens' Door over and over again. Eventually a crowd of the rest of the crew (mainly from UMass) started congregating in front of Jerry on the field. So then we all got kicked out. Later before the show, Bill Walton was back stage eating from the Hospitality area talking to us mainly about the Boston Celtics since we were all from Boston and it was the Larry Bird era. He was super cool and friendly.

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    Back in the late 80s/early 90s downtown Grand Rapids on the weekends was our personal skate park. Included was a ritzy hotel with a great parking garage which we rode like a ski resort. Elevators are cheaper than chair lifts. A whole lot! Anyway, one of the valet attendents came up and whispered somthing about Sam Kinison about to make a presence in the lobby. So we quickly headed inside and took a bench near the main eleveator. Sure enough, out came Sam in fully comanding slow strurt. Shirtless but with a full length fur coat. And two svelte blondes on each arm.

    Three or four years later, the night before Thanksgiving, an old buddy of mine were at a music bar called The Reptile House to watch a ska band called Muster Plug (happend to make Warp Tour but that was about it). Mid way in the set, my buddy nudged me in the ribs and pointed out some regular short dude with straight, long brown hair. Yep. Anthony Kiedis. He was around for about a half hour. And then walked out with two svelte blondes on each arm.

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    Winterland october 74

    Summer 85

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    Tad Doyle of Tad (maybe they were known more locally during grunge days)
    Captain Kangaroo
    Russell Johnson (the Professor from Gilligan's Island)
    Wavy Gravy
    Jimmy Herring walked by me once
    Tom Hanks walked by me during the filming of Sleepless in Seattle at Alki Beach
    I traded quick glances and a smile of recognition with Kris Novoselic at Green Lake
    John Barlow

    My tell-all book will be available this fall. Please watch for it.

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    I swear my wife is trying to kill me via heart attack.

    "AOO:WMMALJJOJOJOKJOL:JEL:JK:JJ!!!!!!!!"

    "don't touch her, she's real live wire."

    my nerves are shot...

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    Its a dark cold rainy day here, otherwise i might not talk about this, cause its dark and cold too. I was an eleven year old kid in sixth grade public school Maryland when i went downtown DC with family to hear and see The Black Watch Scottish regimental band at The White House, November, 1963. Utube has video unbelievably enough. After the concert on the lawn ( by invitation to about 500 people), meet and greet, I was able to shake hands with JFK and Jackie, Caroline by her side and John John on one arm. Nine days later, the unthinkable happened. Much much later on, met George Herbert Walker Bush on the Cape Arundel golf course, sixth hole, Kennebunk, Maine. Least I think it was him, cause there was a body double there. Getting lighter, working in golf media many years ago, did meet some of the titans, Nicklaus, Palmer, Watson... acclaimed journalist Herbert Warren Wind, and the premier architects, RT Jones and his sons... just trying to finish on a more upbeat note here. Meeting and cooking for Cab Calloway, that was very very special.

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    Simonrob, that's very funny. I saw Junior Wells play at the San Francisco Blues festival,he put on a great show. The day Muddy Waters died, I took a friend up to see Pig Pens grave, someone had left a harmonica and a small bottle of whiskey on his grave.

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    As in "Hey, european on my boots".

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    I also took a piss next to Junior Wells in the loo at a club in Chicago 1983ish, the day Muddy Waters died. An afternoon show and he was playing there with Buddy Guy and I doubt if there were more than 50 people present, I couldn't believe it. I didn't say hello, I've never been comfortable talking to strange men in toilets. He did actually splash my boots.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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for Oro. Maybe already mentioned under the solo smooth background category.
George Winston - my personal favorite is his Linus & Lucy, The Music of Vince Guaraldi (a S.F. guy) who we all probably know subconsciously as he wrote Charlie Brown TV specials music.
- also his Forest release.
- any duet with Gary Burton (vibes) and Chick Corea.
Cheers

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I have been listening to this podcast from it's first season. Currently it is covering the Europe 72 tour, show by show, venue by venue, days off adventures, with marvelous interviews with those of the 42 person entourage who were literally 'on the bus'. Wonderful stories abound, including great backstories of the new songs that made it to the official Europe 72 LP. Today I heard a great breakdown of all the characters referred to in Ramble on Rose, and the history of Morning Dew.

This podcast is making me consider going through the trunk again, this time just enjoying all the long jams.

PS Really enjoy all the discussion of Jazz masters. McCoy Tyner is one of my faves-seen him several times at Yoshies in Oakland. He used to play two week stands there right around my birthday. I would have a small birthday gathering of friends there, eating sushi, then we'd all go see the show. One time my friend passed him a note, and McCoy announced my name and it was my birthday! Sweet memories!

Someone on this forum mentioned Charles Mingus at Carnegie Hall a few months ago. I picked it up, nice mellow jazz, with a great pianist, Don Pullen. I really enjoy this and now I'm considering some of the other recommendations from you jazzy folk! Thanks for the great conversation.

Try The Giovanni Guidi Trio for some fine Italian piano based jazz. The City of Broken Dreams and This is the Day are well worth listening to...enjoying all the jazz talk!

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....be right back. Gotta listen to more of this guy. Has he been mentioned here before? If not, that's a damn shame.
Piano players you say? That Page McConnell guy from that band from Vermont is pretty good. ✌️

It occurred to me last night just how many new songs they played on this tour - and how few off "American Beauty", which was their last studio album at the time. Strange in a way, considering how good it is. Only "Truckin" and "Sugar Magnolia" were regulars-with just the one performance of "Brokedown Palace" as an encore for one show ( I think). Just goes to show how prolific they were at that time, I guess.

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Hey VGUY72. I heard them on JamOn on Sirius and downloaded a couple of shows off Nugs. They are an awesome band. Jam band for sure. My favorite so far is 4-9-21. Take a listen. I've wanted to see them but I really curtailed my concert going since covid.

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Goose was just brought to my attention 2 days ago, although I haven’t actually listened yet. Was going to check for video on utoob.

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Another band you guys need to check out is Umphrey's Mcgee. They are a little heavier than Goose but in my opinion the best band there is today. I've seen them about 25 times before covid, mostly on the rail, and for sure the best times I've had since seeing the Dead in the late 70's early 80's. You really need to check them out live to get the full effect but download a show or two. 10-20-17 from the Capitol in Port Chester is one I would recommend. I saw a private show in Garcia's bar next door right before this show. They played right under a picture of Jerry. A great night!!!

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11 28 80 and 11 30 80 have been released. Would 11 29 80 be released? Too close to the others? Not in the vault? No decent-enough copy?

Dave....let me take you out for a drink or 40 so I can take advantage of you....r knowledge of what's in the vault.

I'm sure Marye has a Deadphone connection straight to Dave; please tell him about my offer, Marye.

TIME IS EVAPORATING HERE, PEOPLE. LET'S GO!!!!

So we're maybe 17, possibly 18, and we head into NYC to catch The Thad Jones-Mel Lewis Big Band at the Vanguard, which is barely big enough for the band and triangle-shaped room of the classic tiny bar tables. T-shirts, jeans, long hair, natch. Maybe three or four of us. My buddy's dad had drummed for the Newark-based Savoy label and turned us on to real music beyond rock 'n roll. So we were on a mission.

We catch the first set and blow our money on several drinks apiece. Second set starts, waiter stops by, 'What'll you have?' 'Oh, nothing, we're good.' (We're now broke except train fare home.) 'I'm sorry boys, there's a one-drink minimum required.' 'We bought several in the first set, doesn't that count?' 'No. No it doesn't.' Maitre de comes over. 'Gentlemen, you'll have to buy a drink or leave.' A light goes on in my head.

'May we have a word in the kitchen?' I say... 'Sure,' says the maitre de, uncertain of my motives. So we go into the tiny kitchen, a cook is looking on, and I said, 'We'd like to stay for the second set, would this help?' And I pull out a fat bindle of blow and dump some on the steel steam table. (The maitre de's eyes are getting wider...) Then I pull out a bag of killer Columbian and place a few buds on the table. The maitre de smiles. 'Feel free to order whatever you like, it's on the house,' my new best friend says. Ah, New York City in 1975! Where there's a will there's a way... even for veritable kids on the loose.

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Hot Damn!

You people.

The outpouring of feedback and offerings of various artists in the pie-aner jazz genre is outstanding!
I have two pages of notes I've taken down to document the various artists/groups/albums to sift through. I've already been jumping in. Downright amazing.

We've said it before - I'll shout it once more - nothing tops this group in terms of on-the-spot musical offerings.
The swath of knowledge touches all corners and shades and it is so incredibly appreciated.

Enlightened,
Sixtus

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Heard through the grapevine that during Deadco webcast the President of rhino said new box will be a multi year box and announced in mid July. Also meet up at movies returning. I’m guessing Foxboro 87, 89 & 90. Any thoughts?

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Mid-July. Hmm... right before we realize how much we spent on the end of July deliveries and before we have them in hand so we'll be jonesing. Brilliant! As to a multi year guess, uh OK, I truly have no clue. But does multi year imply one venue as we have seen before?
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Trying not to get carried away, catching up. HF: fine stories from back in the day. In central Maine through mid 70s, our code name was CKR, for Columbian Killer Reefer, a huge step up from Mexican weed and standard grade Columbo. My how things have changed, local farmers gearing up, October 1st, retail sales begin in Vermont. Maine is way ahead of any other NE state in terms of retail, quality and value.

Forgot to mention Roosevelt Sykes for blues/barrelhouse piano. Saw Gary Burton and band play at a college chapel around 1971, outstanding. My second fave vibe after Hutcherson.

JJ Cale, indeed. A while back here, tagged a nicely done cover of Cale's "Same Old Blues Again" by the Terrapin Family Band with Neal Casal on location at TS, with that sweet Tulsa chug. Video can be found on the tube. Story goes, Cale was "discovered" after Clapton picked off "After Midnight" some fifty years ago. JJ's original remains the best, imho. He released several albums in the 70s that are well worth checking out.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, the 60s box must be about to be announced, fingers crossed there's several versions of Viola Lee Blues therein.

Ha.. too funny. I'll have to try that the next time I'm in NYC.

Word on the street is Sixtus is selling off his GD Box sets so he can pay for all the Blue Note box sets he just ordered. P.S. goes without saying, but don't breath a word of this to Mrs. Sixtus.

One of the next two Dave's Picks has got to be from 68 or 69. Just sayin'. Dave, hockey season is over, get cracking..

I also have it on good authority that a flock of Russian man-eating starlings has escaped, they are heading South and are expected to make it as far as Vancouver by the weekend. Much like fish are attracted to flash lures, these mutant starlings are attracted to jittery, tall, distracted people with a remote controls. I suggest filming the next reveal before the weekend.

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then my wallet will stay in my pocket

Unless it's Eugene...

Just sayin
No hate

Just that I personally have very little ongoing active interest in that era of GD

I have tried.

Mid July, huh?

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Cal Expo '89 - '90: The Complete Recordings

August 4-6, 1989
June 8-10, 1990

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I don't think the MUATM will be foxboro 89, they used that show already for a MUATM. And a great show by the way.

Alright, multi year box, cue Alpine Valley 87-89

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Chances are (nice song) if it is multi year, it’s going to cover different eras. That way they can have a mix of reels and cassettes/dats etc. I’m not sure they’d go full cassette/dat for a box yet as they still have many reels and then there’s the whole ABCD situation?
But if I’m correct about the above, there are just too many venues etc to try and guess, though my Great Dane Bix would fit the bill!
2/15/73
10/25/73
2/4/79
12/3/81
6/24/83

All good shows, just depends on tapes?

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Maybe the Lyceum vinyl box, momentous as it is, has cast a bit of a shadow over the next one of the year. For better or worse. Whatever is released next has that as company - and it may influence which year(s)are chosen. Or it may not.

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So I just dug through YouTube and Mark Pinkus guests on the Live Set II Preview from Wrigley Field 6/25/2022. Box will be announced mid-July and will be a multi year box. Same info I caught.

MUAM is a show they previously didn’t know existed.

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I'm so happy to hear that news is imminent on the box set front(and Dave's 43 also!!) Getting ready for fantastic discussions to come.

This is only relevant to anyone who had to wait a long time to receive a package(surely that's NEVER happened to anyone here) :)

Had a package shipped from TN, which is only 3 states away. It has travelled thus far, with 22 scans:

SE Tenn->NE Tenn->Central MD(where I live)->NE NJ->Wash D.C.->......

All of this has already taken the better part of 2 weeks. WHY??????

It's a good thing that Music is the Best!! Patience and understanding is the hardest part.

so far have tried first two discs of 3/20/92

meh

literally dozed off during Dark Star

92 aint their best year, true...

A while later...

I turned off 3/20/92 during Standing OTM. I guess you had to be there.

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7/29/88 is on Dave’s “list” of possibles that he’s been hitting hard and steady since he become the guy.
The China-Fingers-Rider is cool, but I think I recall the transitions weren’t spectacular, BUT, BUT, that PITB was pretty effin cool, sort old school psychedelic!

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Want 68, 69,70. Probably get 89, 90 ,91

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I don't text. What is MUATM or MUAM?
"previously didn't know existed" is intriguing.
The complete Cal Expo '89-'90 sounds good Nolan.
Can I afford 18 discs? No but WTF ( I know that one).
Cheers

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Meet up at the movies

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yes
on disc three
3/20/92 is all a distant memory now...there, there Proudfoot...

movie/film only recently discovered?

something from the 60s...please...or 11/8/70

I'll put $5 on it being 5/24/70

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MUAM = Meet Up At Movies
MAMU= Me And My Uncle
MUATM=Meet Up At The Movies
BIODTL=Beat It On Down The Line

I’m assuming Mark Pinkus meant a show they didn’t realize they had on video.

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meet up with me and my uncle at the movies

Listening to 11/2/85
Some 85 (Summer 85 box!!!)
I loves me some GD85

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11/24/78
Box Set '22, 5 shows from the Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pa.

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Warfield October 1980.

The video was mixed in with audio reels of the Fall 80 tour that they thought had been recorded over but actually weren’t.

Don’t get too excited, I made that up.

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Excellent video on Paul Motian in NYC, at the end of his career, with undertone of valiant struggle with cancer that would take him out. One of the great contemporary jazz drummers, unique in many ways. Insights into a performing artist, great clips with brief appearances by Chick Corea, Bill Frisell and many others, locations include Village Vanguard and Birdland. It can be streamed by some services. Opening the door for further explorations with favorite jazz drummers, such as Jack DeJohnette, Antonio Sanchez, Bill Bruford, Brian Blade, Jeff Watts

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Hmm. Maybe youz prankin'.

Upon further research, Wissinoming appears to be part of greater Philadelphia.

11 24 78...that would be cool.

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Shakedown goat?
(watch, this will bring HF outta the woodwork ; )

....there is a very good copy of video from a tasty portion of this show on yootooob; it's black and white if I recall (Nay! it's in color, I just checked) but crispy picture and sound. Pretty sure it includes the entire second set and the heavy Estimated > Shakedown from this show, which was a highlight for me despite Jer having a bit of laryngitis.

I will check out the aforementioned Bakedown GOAT from today in '85.

Be Well People.
Sixtus

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Saw a photo posted of the Cup in it's shipping case at the wrong house.
Hmm.. That Mike and Oro in a brilliant plan to seize it?
Mike finished the engraving then surreptitiously FedEx to Oro's.
But seriously, why would it go to the house next door to one of the player's house
and not straight to safekeeping for the parade today?
Helluva punch bowl for the party though.
Cheers

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