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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Crow Told Me
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    Not long ago I had a guy come to check on our air conditioner. Seemed like a good idea, since we’d never serviced the thing in the 15 years we’d lived in the house, and summers around here can be pretty damned unbearable without AC. So this guy comes over, and he checks out the unit and the vents and whatnot, goes through the house with a digital thermometer, and gives us a clean bill of health, thank ye gods. And then out of the blue he says, in heavily accented English, “I notice you have an obsession with birds?”

    And I’m like, who, me?

    And then I realize that out in the yard, where he was working, there are two bird seed feeders, and a hummingbird feeder. And a bird bath. And in the living room, where we’re talking, there are five paintings of birds, and also an enlarged photo of some birds my wife took. And another bird painting in the kitchen. Also salt and pepper shakers that are shaped like chickens. And a stuffed owl on the book shelf.

    So I realized he had a point.

    The weird thing is, I know nothing about birds. I couldn’t tell a whippoorwill from a curlew if you put a gun to my head. But I like watching them at the feeder, or taking a bath, and I like knowing they’re out there, doing all the same stuff they were doing millions of years ago, before humans came along. I like thinking I’m doing some little thing to help them survive in a world that’s increasingly hostile to all wild things.

    Owls are my favorite. We mostly have barn owls around here, and you can hear them screech almost every night, see them only rarely. There are also burrowing owls in the fields outside town. I think I saw a barred owl the other night, at twilight. Can’t be sure, because I could only see the silhouette, but I think that’s what she was. Either that, or an omen from the Other World. I was sitting by the creek, having (yet another) existential crisis, when I happened to look up and see her. She flew right up above me, then silently turned into the trees. Wonder what message, if any, she meant to deliver?

    Anyway ... Just finished Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr. Highly recommended. Just starting on Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel.

    Last five:

    King Crimson: Live in Mexico
    Johnny Griffin: Introducing Johnny Griffin
    TTB: Crescent
    Aaron Copland: Piano Concerto
    Kamasi Washington: Heaven and Earth

  • itsburnsy
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    That is sweet HF, your gonna love OtR. Was in Powell's books a few years ago and they had original printing of Steal This Book by Abbey Hoffman, score!

    Birds! So I live on a greenbelt, in Summer I get birds migrating from S America to AK even, tons live there too including at least one owl. Then this spring my bird feeder starting getting raided, by what I din't know, thought maybe raccoons. And then a few days ago, swear to God I looked out my window and f*cking bear was just dumping all my seed into his mouth. Scared him away, sat back down with my coffee, looked out the window, and there it was again, dumping a whole feeder full of seed into his mouth. Unfortunately, I have pets and kids, so I took the feeder down, if anyone knows of a good anti Yogi strategy to keep bears out of feeders let know. I already put it as high as it can go and that didn't work.

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    night time bird "audibles"

    along with owls, maybe call of a poorwill (sounds like the common name) or the wing "woooosh" of a diving nighthawk

    many years ago hiking off trail on dry east slope of Cascades and there were a series of stick nests maybe 10 feet off ground in tall shrubs. gave one shrub a light shake and a very pissed off Mama Long-eared poked her head over the lip of the nest and told me to stop it!

    owl species make all sorts of crazy calls, along with the well known 4 hoot of the Great Horned. Was camping one night back country near Malheur and my girlfriend and I started hearing these tiny yipping noises, like miniature coyotes, from the pinyons (and/or maybe junipers?). Headlamp revealed them to be Saw-whet owls. They were everywhere based on the calls. Migrating through. No trace by next morning.

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    Birds....

    ....we have a birdbath and hummingbird feeders in our front yard we can see from our kitchen window. Makes doing the dishes a less of a chore.

  • 1stshow70878
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    The night time "audible" sighting is an intriguing one. Where you and I are it could just be a Great Horned owl if it sounds like classic hooting, "who cooks for you". We've been getting the Long-eared owl over here the last few years which has a much more spooky winnowing call. Ghostly for sure. Very cool "sighting". Birding has been our excuse to get out in the woods, and everywhere else, for 40 years now thanks to some biology major roommates in college.
    Cheers
    P.S. You can verify your audible on a site called ebird where recordings of calls are one of the features. Easy-peasy and just to keep it Dead related for the fans, the site is run by Cornell Labs. LOL

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    To both HendrixFreak and to Jim

    HF - Sorry to hear your father passed, and of all weeks, prior to that one time we get to reflect how great their presence in our lives was. Both my folks made it to 93, from hard scrabble Depression roots, enormous families where hand me downs were presents, service to country, being decent people, parents, and friends. I will consider myself blessed should I live to that age, and gather the wisdom and probity that particular age bestows on you. My condolences, Amigo.

    Jim - Wow, what a week for you and yours. Thanks to the Almighty for the skills of the medical professionals, may all of you return to full health very soon. Your words recently about how the Deadheads on this site, and in general, were a pretty interesting and erudite bunch rang true; as a generally outside observer on this site, I am fascinated by the scope of skills, knowledge, life lessons, and unwavering objective and curious mindset of this group here.

    TS Eliot said it best:
    If you do not push the boundaries, you will never know where they are.

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    Hey I was there too!

  • Oroborous
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    Been really digging birds lately. This time of year there’s many different ones around that like to hang by the nearby wetlands etc. I know nothing of birding but know there’s hawks, eagles, vultures, owls, swallows, Robbins, magpies, some cool all black with orange on the side, something at night that makes cool sounds, and saw something that made me think of sand pipers but no idea what? Nature is so much cooler than TV, internet and all the other noise we clog our heads with.

    BILLY: believe that was your first? Hell of a first, happy anniversary!
    Hopefully they’ll give us that one the 50th of Allah!

    1stshow: guess ya have to change the name to fit the new location?
    Denver Nordiques doesn’t quite have the same ring? But I’m sure it comes down to power and money like everything else. Those who have make the rules…

  • Oroborous
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    “There’s too much pain and too much sorrow”

    Geeze Louise.

    HF: sorry for your loss, may the 4 winds blow him safely home!
    Sounds like another interesting trooper from that most awesome generation who lived a long and full life!

    Pretty cool about the book. Sounds like it’s time for another “get one with nature adventure”

    JIM: FFS, nothing like when life piles on. Bad wrist, and 2 serious family situations I’m sure on top of the normal madness! Sounds like you could use a killer Touch of Grey! (and some things decorum prevents me from mentioning ahem) And remember amigo, Like A Road, we’ll be there!
    Wishing speedy and healthy recovery to your family!
    Yeah, hang in there baby (picturing big, tall, lanky dude holding on instead of that cute lil kitten ; )

    Bluecrow: that must of been hard not to be able to be with him.
    I’m still dealing with not being there for either parent.
    They say pops went in his sleep, but it still chokes me up thinking about him being all alone at the end.
    But what can we do, ce la vie, the wheel keeps turning you can’t slow down, can’t let go and ya cant hold on, cant go back and ya cant stand still, if the world don’t get ya then Father Time will

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    you were there for the Bob Fried Memorial Boogie?!

    you lucky guy!! what an awesome show!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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for Oro. Maybe already mentioned under the solo smooth background category.
George Winston - my personal favorite is his Linus & Lucy, The Music of Vince Guaraldi (a S.F. guy) who we all probably know subconsciously as he wrote Charlie Brown TV specials music.
- also his Forest release.
- any duet with Gary Burton (vibes) and Chick Corea.
Cheers

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I have been listening to this podcast from it's first season. Currently it is covering the Europe 72 tour, show by show, venue by venue, days off adventures, with marvelous interviews with those of the 42 person entourage who were literally 'on the bus'. Wonderful stories abound, including great backstories of the new songs that made it to the official Europe 72 LP. Today I heard a great breakdown of all the characters referred to in Ramble on Rose, and the history of Morning Dew.

This podcast is making me consider going through the trunk again, this time just enjoying all the long jams.

PS Really enjoy all the discussion of Jazz masters. McCoy Tyner is one of my faves-seen him several times at Yoshies in Oakland. He used to play two week stands there right around my birthday. I would have a small birthday gathering of friends there, eating sushi, then we'd all go see the show. One time my friend passed him a note, and McCoy announced my name and it was my birthday! Sweet memories!

Someone on this forum mentioned Charles Mingus at Carnegie Hall a few months ago. I picked it up, nice mellow jazz, with a great pianist, Don Pullen. I really enjoy this and now I'm considering some of the other recommendations from you jazzy folk! Thanks for the great conversation.

Try The Giovanni Guidi Trio for some fine Italian piano based jazz. The City of Broken Dreams and This is the Day are well worth listening to...enjoying all the jazz talk!

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....be right back. Gotta listen to more of this guy. Has he been mentioned here before? If not, that's a damn shame.
Piano players you say? That Page McConnell guy from that band from Vermont is pretty good. ✌️

It occurred to me last night just how many new songs they played on this tour - and how few off "American Beauty", which was their last studio album at the time. Strange in a way, considering how good it is. Only "Truckin" and "Sugar Magnolia" were regulars-with just the one performance of "Brokedown Palace" as an encore for one show ( I think). Just goes to show how prolific they were at that time, I guess.

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Hey VGUY72. I heard them on JamOn on Sirius and downloaded a couple of shows off Nugs. They are an awesome band. Jam band for sure. My favorite so far is 4-9-21. Take a listen. I've wanted to see them but I really curtailed my concert going since covid.

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Goose was just brought to my attention 2 days ago, although I haven’t actually listened yet. Was going to check for video on utoob.

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Another band you guys need to check out is Umphrey's Mcgee. They are a little heavier than Goose but in my opinion the best band there is today. I've seen them about 25 times before covid, mostly on the rail, and for sure the best times I've had since seeing the Dead in the late 70's early 80's. You really need to check them out live to get the full effect but download a show or two. 10-20-17 from the Capitol in Port Chester is one I would recommend. I saw a private show in Garcia's bar next door right before this show. They played right under a picture of Jerry. A great night!!!

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11 28 80 and 11 30 80 have been released. Would 11 29 80 be released? Too close to the others? Not in the vault? No decent-enough copy?

Dave....let me take you out for a drink or 40 so I can take advantage of you....r knowledge of what's in the vault.

I'm sure Marye has a Deadphone connection straight to Dave; please tell him about my offer, Marye.

TIME IS EVAPORATING HERE, PEOPLE. LET'S GO!!!!

So we're maybe 17, possibly 18, and we head into NYC to catch The Thad Jones-Mel Lewis Big Band at the Vanguard, which is barely big enough for the band and triangle-shaped room of the classic tiny bar tables. T-shirts, jeans, long hair, natch. Maybe three or four of us. My buddy's dad had drummed for the Newark-based Savoy label and turned us on to real music beyond rock 'n roll. So we were on a mission.

We catch the first set and blow our money on several drinks apiece. Second set starts, waiter stops by, 'What'll you have?' 'Oh, nothing, we're good.' (We're now broke except train fare home.) 'I'm sorry boys, there's a one-drink minimum required.' 'We bought several in the first set, doesn't that count?' 'No. No it doesn't.' Maitre de comes over. 'Gentlemen, you'll have to buy a drink or leave.' A light goes on in my head.

'May we have a word in the kitchen?' I say... 'Sure,' says the maitre de, uncertain of my motives. So we go into the tiny kitchen, a cook is looking on, and I said, 'We'd like to stay for the second set, would this help?' And I pull out a fat bindle of blow and dump some on the steel steam table. (The maitre de's eyes are getting wider...) Then I pull out a bag of killer Columbian and place a few buds on the table. The maitre de smiles. 'Feel free to order whatever you like, it's on the house,' my new best friend says. Ah, New York City in 1975! Where there's a will there's a way... even for veritable kids on the loose.

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Hot Damn!

You people.

The outpouring of feedback and offerings of various artists in the pie-aner jazz genre is outstanding!
I have two pages of notes I've taken down to document the various artists/groups/albums to sift through. I've already been jumping in. Downright amazing.

We've said it before - I'll shout it once more - nothing tops this group in terms of on-the-spot musical offerings.
The swath of knowledge touches all corners and shades and it is so incredibly appreciated.

Enlightened,
Sixtus

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Heard through the grapevine that during Deadco webcast the President of rhino said new box will be a multi year box and announced in mid July. Also meet up at movies returning. I’m guessing Foxboro 87, 89 & 90. Any thoughts?

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Mid-July. Hmm... right before we realize how much we spent on the end of July deliveries and before we have them in hand so we'll be jonesing. Brilliant! As to a multi year guess, uh OK, I truly have no clue. But does multi year imply one venue as we have seen before?
Cheers

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Trying not to get carried away, catching up. HF: fine stories from back in the day. In central Maine through mid 70s, our code name was CKR, for Columbian Killer Reefer, a huge step up from Mexican weed and standard grade Columbo. My how things have changed, local farmers gearing up, October 1st, retail sales begin in Vermont. Maine is way ahead of any other NE state in terms of retail, quality and value.

Forgot to mention Roosevelt Sykes for blues/barrelhouse piano. Saw Gary Burton and band play at a college chapel around 1971, outstanding. My second fave vibe after Hutcherson.

JJ Cale, indeed. A while back here, tagged a nicely done cover of Cale's "Same Old Blues Again" by the Terrapin Family Band with Neal Casal on location at TS, with that sweet Tulsa chug. Video can be found on the tube. Story goes, Cale was "discovered" after Clapton picked off "After Midnight" some fifty years ago. JJ's original remains the best, imho. He released several albums in the 70s that are well worth checking out.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, the 60s box must be about to be announced, fingers crossed there's several versions of Viola Lee Blues therein.

Ha.. too funny. I'll have to try that the next time I'm in NYC.

Word on the street is Sixtus is selling off his GD Box sets so he can pay for all the Blue Note box sets he just ordered. P.S. goes without saying, but don't breath a word of this to Mrs. Sixtus.

One of the next two Dave's Picks has got to be from 68 or 69. Just sayin'. Dave, hockey season is over, get cracking..

I also have it on good authority that a flock of Russian man-eating starlings has escaped, they are heading South and are expected to make it as far as Vancouver by the weekend. Much like fish are attracted to flash lures, these mutant starlings are attracted to jittery, tall, distracted people with a remote controls. I suggest filming the next reveal before the weekend.

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then my wallet will stay in my pocket

Unless it's Eugene...

Just sayin
No hate

Just that I personally have very little ongoing active interest in that era of GD

I have tried.

Mid July, huh?

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Cal Expo '89 - '90: The Complete Recordings

August 4-6, 1989
June 8-10, 1990

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I don't think the MUATM will be foxboro 89, they used that show already for a MUATM. And a great show by the way.

Alright, multi year box, cue Alpine Valley 87-89

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Chances are (nice song) if it is multi year, it’s going to cover different eras. That way they can have a mix of reels and cassettes/dats etc. I’m not sure they’d go full cassette/dat for a box yet as they still have many reels and then there’s the whole ABCD situation?
But if I’m correct about the above, there are just too many venues etc to try and guess, though my Great Dane Bix would fit the bill!
2/15/73
10/25/73
2/4/79
12/3/81
6/24/83

All good shows, just depends on tapes?

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Maybe the Lyceum vinyl box, momentous as it is, has cast a bit of a shadow over the next one of the year. For better or worse. Whatever is released next has that as company - and it may influence which year(s)are chosen. Or it may not.

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So I just dug through YouTube and Mark Pinkus guests on the Live Set II Preview from Wrigley Field 6/25/2022. Box will be announced mid-July and will be a multi year box. Same info I caught.

MUAM is a show they previously didn’t know existed.

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I'm so happy to hear that news is imminent on the box set front(and Dave's 43 also!!) Getting ready for fantastic discussions to come.

This is only relevant to anyone who had to wait a long time to receive a package(surely that's NEVER happened to anyone here) :)

Had a package shipped from TN, which is only 3 states away. It has travelled thus far, with 22 scans:

SE Tenn->NE Tenn->Central MD(where I live)->NE NJ->Wash D.C.->......

All of this has already taken the better part of 2 weeks. WHY??????

It's a good thing that Music is the Best!! Patience and understanding is the hardest part.

so far have tried first two discs of 3/20/92

meh

literally dozed off during Dark Star

92 aint their best year, true...

A while later...

I turned off 3/20/92 during Standing OTM. I guess you had to be there.

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7/29/88 is on Dave’s “list” of possibles that he’s been hitting hard and steady since he become the guy.
The China-Fingers-Rider is cool, but I think I recall the transitions weren’t spectacular, BUT, BUT, that PITB was pretty effin cool, sort old school psychedelic!

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Want 68, 69,70. Probably get 89, 90 ,91

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I don't text. What is MUATM or MUAM?
"previously didn't know existed" is intriguing.
The complete Cal Expo '89-'90 sounds good Nolan.
Can I afford 18 discs? No but WTF ( I know that one).
Cheers

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Meet up at the movies

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yes
on disc three
3/20/92 is all a distant memory now...there, there Proudfoot...

movie/film only recently discovered?

something from the 60s...please...or 11/8/70

I'll put $5 on it being 5/24/70

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MUAM = Meet Up At Movies
MAMU= Me And My Uncle
MUATM=Meet Up At The Movies
BIODTL=Beat It On Down The Line

I’m assuming Mark Pinkus meant a show they didn’t realize they had on video.

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meet up with me and my uncle at the movies

Listening to 11/2/85
Some 85 (Summer 85 box!!!)
I loves me some GD85

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11/24/78
Box Set '22, 5 shows from the Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pa.

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Warfield October 1980.

The video was mixed in with audio reels of the Fall 80 tour that they thought had been recorded over but actually weren’t.

Don’t get too excited, I made that up.

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Excellent video on Paul Motian in NYC, at the end of his career, with undertone of valiant struggle with cancer that would take him out. One of the great contemporary jazz drummers, unique in many ways. Insights into a performing artist, great clips with brief appearances by Chick Corea, Bill Frisell and many others, locations include Village Vanguard and Birdland. It can be streamed by some services. Opening the door for further explorations with favorite jazz drummers, such as Jack DeJohnette, Antonio Sanchez, Bill Bruford, Brian Blade, Jeff Watts

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Hmm. Maybe youz prankin'.

Upon further research, Wissinoming appears to be part of greater Philadelphia.

11 24 78...that would be cool.

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Shakedown goat?
(watch, this will bring HF outta the woodwork ; )

....there is a very good copy of video from a tasty portion of this show on yootooob; it's black and white if I recall (Nay! it's in color, I just checked) but crispy picture and sound. Pretty sure it includes the entire second set and the heavy Estimated > Shakedown from this show, which was a highlight for me despite Jer having a bit of laryngitis.

I will check out the aforementioned Bakedown GOAT from today in '85.

Be Well People.
Sixtus

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Saw a photo posted of the Cup in it's shipping case at the wrong house.
Hmm.. That Mike and Oro in a brilliant plan to seize it?
Mike finished the engraving then surreptitiously FedEx to Oro's.
But seriously, why would it go to the house next door to one of the player's house
and not straight to safekeeping for the parade today?
Helluva punch bowl for the party though.
Cheers

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