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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    ....the OG "power band".
    "His reason was spent" - damn Oroboros. I never thought of that lyric that way.
    And 1stShow with the Men Without Hats nod. Love it.
    I tried a heart emoji there. Are those not permitted either?

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    Didn't I see a version of that on PBS? Broken up by the usual begging?
    The band was all legends.

    Do it Dave. It's just not Our House without two cats in the yard.
    Cheers

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    Dennis - it seems to be available in all sorts of configurations. The one I have is called The Black and White show and has "30" embossed on the cover. It's got a cd and a dvd, with a "secret" bonus post show selection of songs on the dvd and available for download - just 5 alternative versions of songs from the main show. The main show has 19 songs, with Pretty Woman played twice.
    I've just played it again to see if it's as good as I remember it. It's not...it's better!

    I'm beginning to wonder if I should get a pet, reading some of the posts on here. The last one died about 45 years ago.

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    A lot on the last few Tapers. Not one I would think of for a box though. Sometimes you just gotta poke around.
    Oro, thanks for sharing. Brought back hilarious scenes of my Japanese Bobtail who ruled the dogs. She was likely dumped in our trailer park and knew the whole place. Saw her a couple times by the dumpster and the wife tried to feed her. Eventually she figured out we had cats and did fence top traverses to get on our roof and look in the yard. The rotted overhanging rafter 2x4 broke under her weight and we found her lounging on the homemade cat condo. Decided we were OK I guess. This gorgeous beast had rear legs the size of a large rabbit and would harass the yippy little dogs a few houses away. You could tell she enjoyed it. She'd hear them yipping and jump over the 6 ft. wooden fence and then go and just sit in the middle on the drive right next to their house and stare at them until they went away. Total badass!
    Cheers

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    Hopefully something I dont reeeeeally want or need

    Anything after 85 meets my definition of that

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    Ok Dave, you made me buy.

    I appear to have the original cd. I just bought the re-release of the original cd, which is supposed to be re-editted, re-mastered and redone in general. Has all the songs from the tv show, put back in the order in which the audience heard them.

    Hell, it was 14 bucks for a 2 cd set,,,, what the hell.

    It was Dave recommended!

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    Didn’t want to go here, but so many have shared such personal stories, and got me all choked up, which then makes me think of my dog Iko, which gets me more choked up! He was crazy as a youngin, but eventually turned into a really good, well trained dog.

    Got him in fall 82 when he was 6 weeks and just barely old enough to be taken from his mother. I picked him out of the big liter because even at like 3 weeks old, while the others wouldn’t leave momma, he was already wandering off and getting into trouble, hence the name.
    Beautiful black lab/husky with white collar, white tips on tail and feet, with cute white nose.
    Used to take him everywhere when he was little. Had a nap sack I wore backwards inside my jacket so I could shove him inside when I needed to go into stores etc since I didn’t have a car. On top of all his other wonderful qualities, he was a total chick magnet!
    Mom wouldn’t let him in the house, or even look at him because she didn’t want to go through getting attached and then having to endure losing him etc. Eventually she couldn’t help herself, he was allowed in, and they became inseparable!
    Anyway, I was constantly moving in and out and increasingly just plain gone a lot. When I moved out west years later he was so used to being there with the folks to give him regular care etc, that we decided it was best for him to stay there. It was hard for me, but best for him.
    The sad part was as he approached the end. He had been going downhill fast when I came home for Xmass in 97.
    My father said it was like he knew and was waiting for me. The vet had said he wouldn’t make it that long. After I got home, we took him to the vet again and they said that due to various reasons his temperature was so high he was burning up inside, his brain was boiling and his reason was spent.
    Said the humane thing to do was put him down, so we made an appointment and did the difficult but right thing.
    If only we could show such mercy on our peeps, but I digress.
    It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, but so glad he waited for me to come home and to be with him.
    The thing that made me realize it was time, was that he barely touched his dog biscuit/bone. He lived for those milk bone treats, but the last one I gave him he barely touched so I took that as a sign. I still have that milk bone 25+ years later. Sits in my special cabinet with my box sets and other most personal items, including a picture of him and the beer I saluted him with after his passing.
    Before, as we waited in the car, I held him and told him what a good boy he was and how much we all loved him, and how sorry I was that I had to leave him when I moved. When it was time, I held him and looked in his eyes while they gave the injection etc. Agonizingly hard, but so glad I was able to be there with/for him, especially since I didn’t get the chance to say goodbye to my childhood dog. Pops took that guy while I was away because he thought it’d be easier. I was so pissed and wasn’t going to let that happen again.
    Ok, I’m crying now at a construction site getting funny looks, so what. Perhaps the deepest connection with anyone I’ve ever had!
    Like the David Bromberg version of Mr Bojangles, after all these years I still grieve. I try not to think about it too much because for whatever reason it still just crushes me, more than all the other peeps and pets I’ve lost?
    There was just something about him. But since you all brought me back to all that, figured I’d share.
    Sorry for the Debbie downer.
    So on a funnier note: lived with a cat at a friends house, actually several over the year’s. He had one black cat named Sable that was generally not a very nice cat. She used to go around the neighborhood and routinely kick the crap outta all the small dogs, forget about cats!
    She and I got along ok because I left her alone, we had an understanding lol. She used to like to hang in my room so she could be left alone. If I went in there, she’d usually just get all hissy and leave, but she never attached me like some folks. People would come over to watch football or whatever, and of course try the usual “hey kitty kitty” and try and pet her etc. She’d have none of that, especially from interlopers, her housemates she tolerated because she had to lol. So after she’d spit and hiss, and tell ‘em to fuck off and leave her be, many folks would shit talk her and call her names etc. well she didn’t appreciate that and was so smart, and vengeful, she’d sit and wait and stew until the offender was probably half in the bag and long since forgotten the cat. So just at the right time, as the clueless offenders hand was dangling beside the chair, she’d strike and boy she could do some damage if you had really pissed her off! We used to warn people, “don’t try to pet, and don’t shit talk the cat” but they usually didn’t listen. After the retribution, we’d have to say, sorry, but we tried to warn ya!
    Her favorite thing in life was racing cars. She’d wait on the side of the sorta busy street we were on, and try to run in front of cars at the last second. Pretty crazy but she loved it and was very good until Halloween night one year when she just wasn’t quick enough. Poor guy brought her to the house half dead and all upset. We told him not to worry as hardly anyone would miss her, but it was still sad, even a mean cat is still part of the family, and I never thought she was mean, just wanted to be left alone so we got along fine. In fact I liked her because she was so different!
    Ok, sorry, back to your Drumz/space!

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    Lands in the maritimes in record time, on a day off to boot. Bonus disc lead to an enjoyable time (as possible) cleaning the fridge. Digging so far.

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    Yes, Roy Orbison. There's a great live cd/dvd of him in concert in 1987, called The Black&WhiteNight. 19 incredible songs sung to perfection - and with a stellar band. Not least of which is James Burton on guitar. Highly recommended to music lovers everywhere.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

But first: I am truly sorry about losing your father, Bolo. :_(((

You mention bears...Cal? UCLA?

Santa Rosa Slewfoot?

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That Shakedown is fantastic. Mid first set no less. The video and sound quality now available for that first set are gorgeous.

wissinomingdeadhead, I'm with you. To borrow a phrase, "What about 12/1/79?"

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....since Bolo brought it up, why is it that I get dreams after waking up to get a glass of water at 3 AM then falling asleep again aka a nap time?
Got up twice this morning. Had vivid dreams after falling asleep again both times. Involved my sister in one and Teddy Roosevelt in another.
The brain is indeed a mystery.
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And just like that, my sister texted me about our dad. We talked about his appreciation of Simon & Garfunkel.
So I found a record. Wednesday Morning, 3 AM.
The fact that I took a little bit of shrooms today just takes that revelation to a whole nother level.
3 AM.
Edit deux.
There is a Peggy-O on this record. I totally forgot and I love surprises!!
What a record!!
The Times They Are A Changing indeed. Stay strong and stay safe peeps.
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was at Winterland, on 10/20/78, it sounded just like it did on the album Shakedown Street. It's a song that really improved with age. My favorite Shakedown Street was 9/12 /81 at the Greek.

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So glad to hear from you Bolo, but sorry for the trials and tribulations. Yes, did try to call Bolo out a month or so back for an update on the 60s box scheduled to announce soon. Great thing about all BOATs and GOATs, all top contenders on any given day, providing ample most welcome distractions while we wait for the announcement of something that will not release until September. Worked last night as perimeter security for a very large fireworks display, annual event that goes on next to a large lake in a valley between small mountains, very much enhanced by echo and reflections. Spectacular stuff stationed at a prime location. Provided non toxic bug spray, ice water on board a utility cart for viewers, there just to make sure people did not get too close to launch site and smoke plumes from big fireworks, other smoke plumes were up to them. This being Vermont, on private property, no issues, though discretion called for an early edible.

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Now THAT is good security.

And Vguy, I do not know the answer to your question, I'm just glad you didn't dream about Teddy Roosevelt being WITH your sister -- that'd be a toughie to puzzle through and possibly try to unsee...

And while everyone is OD'ing on potato salad and fireworks this weekend, I voluntarily undertook to de-fenestrate and clean my home room-by-room. Why? To get my sheet together... THEN I qualify for a summer weekend with edibles and fungus. Oh, and DYLAN next week in Denver. I'll be the guy with the KN95 on...

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FP - your rec had me realize that I am not familiar with Shakedown from the Hornsby era. Need to fix that.

And that somehow got me thinking about the upcoming box set. A new and completely different theory than I've had before. It's the anniversary of Europe '72. Its my understanding that a reliable source said its multi-year. So. Box set is going to be Europe / British Isles shows from all other years. From Chateau d'Herouville in '71 through the Fall '90 Europe Tour. Throw in some '74 Wall of Sound. Some '81 spring/fall Rainbow Theatre, more fall Europa '81. And, of course, the Rockpalast Essen show 3/28. Good video Chateau d'Herouville and Essen, so those will tie ins. Crazy I know.

And how could I forget about the Melkweg shows??!! Spin those out separate too!!

Maybe Bolo was getting chased by mythical Slew Foot. I think that's a clue from dreamworld for a Summer '69 release. And then VGuy with a Theodore Roosevelt dream. Teddy once refused to shoot a bear on a hunt. That's where the "Teddy Bear" comes from. More bears.

My dog was chilling on the couch
Playin' in the Band...we both blissin'
Seastones comes on
She looks around
Gets off couch and heads upstairs
Lol

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My cat didn't like it either.
And she likes most music.
I think it the part that sounds like a wounded whale that drove her off.
No accounting for taste I guess.
For that matter I hit skip on that too most times.
Cheers and happy Independence Day

Bluecrow-I like that idea - quite a span of years. Maybe start with their first one in Europe - the 5/24/70 show at the Newcastle-Under Lyme festival.

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Damn DaveRock - I forgot about that show! Of course that's part of the box!!

I just now gave that show my full attention

Grrrreat show!!!

Morning Dew!!!

The euphoria when Jerry sings La Bamba!!!

Knockin' on Heaven's Door is sooo sweet

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I like it!!! So with that suggestion (guess) here are my 5 favorite EUR shows that aren't from '72, in chrono order:
5/20/70
9/20/74
3/24/81
10/4/81
10/20/90

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Ja gerne

The two 81 tours...
I know 3/28
One or two others from that month
Not a whole lot else

Yes!

5 24 70
9 20 74
6 21 71
The 81 tours

6 21 71 is the newly found video I bet

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If they did go for a Europe Box, featuring shows from 1970, 1971, 1974, 1981 and 1990 - each show would feature a different line up of the band. Jolly interesting.
It might be a saturated market, but it would also be quite nice to see Bickershaw come out on vinyl

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DaveRock - I hadn't even done the "math" on the band line ups. I think the More Europe box is a pretty cool concept - a time arc of 20 years once you add in the Newcastle show that I overlooked. fantasy box sets - there's a lot of good ones out there.

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A Europe box is certainly a possibility, but I would rather that they release an all Bay Area box set. Shows from the Avalon, Fillmore, Winterland,, Carousel Ballroom, Frost, Greek, Warfield, Orpheum Theatre, S.F. Civic., Oakland Auditorium, Shoreline, that would be a killer box set!

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I say it's from one of the OOPS shows at the Melkweg in 1981. According the Deadheads Taping Addendum both of these shows were recorded for Danish TV.

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That is great news about the filming of OOPS

I did not know that

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I'm holding out hope that there might just be something out there that does not widely circulate. Thinking something from ABCD, Mountain Girl or Bear's secret stash.

If you think about it.. they sporadically bubble up from time to time. If you were Dave, and some came floating into the Vancouver sound on a makeshift raft at some point, wouldn't you time their releases just for the sheer shock and fun factor? I'd really like to think there are some surprises out there yet to be enjoyed.

I don't think I was the only one that thoroughly enjoyed my virgin listen to 7/1/78, am I?

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So Jim did you not buy the box set?
Or if you did how did you manage to save that show until now?
Killer short show! Sometimes those time constraints work to advantage.
Funny, that show is exactly what I was reaching for this AM but got waylaid.
Great minds! Hope to get to it this afternoon.
Cheers to the red, white, and blue and to Willie Nelson.

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Pt.1, 10/15/81 is on YouTube.

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I bought that box the day it was announced, I was just reminiscing about the first listen when it arrived on my front porch. I was thoroughly delighted.. I don't believe any of us had listened to it in that pristine state. The sound quality was soooo goood. The same goes for the bonus Morning Dew at the end of the Swing '77 Dave's Picks from Santa Barbara. That one caught my attention, what a powerful opening to a great song.

I'm just thinking out loud that we might be due for a surprise, assuming there's still some mystery in the vault. Of course I could be wildly mistaken, there hasn't really been anything new in some time.

And we are really due for some 1960's GD, which I know they have in the vault. Makes me think of that Pigpen line.. get your hands out of your pockets, Dave.., quit playing pocket pool and give us some Good Ole 1960's Grateful Dead.

BTK: EXACTLY what I have been hoping for the 60s box, multiple shows from some of those Bay area venues, with whatever they can put together for photos, backstories. Clearly, there's enough to work with, warts and all. Understood, many events had multiple bands, just one or two CDs from the Dead's sets times ten for a 15-20 box. Shall we call it the BAB. Oh great rhinoceros, when does the BAB drop? HF: nothing like Altamont, not a public event, not quite invitation only, can't say anything more. For those in NNE this week, Tedeschi Trucks with Los Lobos this Saturday, July 9 outdoors at Champlain Valley Expo.

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I tell ya, that Bay Area Box. would be a killer!, 1966 - 1995, I m really happy ya got to see Otis Spann, I've seen a lot of great blues players, but not Otis Spann. Back to the bbq, I'll play Best of Muddy Waters, with Spann, Little Walter, the greatest blues band ever.

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Crikey-there's a thought. I seem to have lost a decade somewhere along the line.
That 7/1/78 show still sounds great-especially the first set and the post drums section.

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This is off the rails a bit, but I was watching the Criterion Collection DVD of "Gimme Shelter", and I never knew that the New Riders had played this event. Since this was 12/1969, it was prior to their first studio album. Brief footage of Spencer Dryden on drums while Marmaduke performing "6 Days on the Road". They played before Jefferson Airplane started getting pummeled by the Angels. I highly recommend the OSF NRPS 5-disc set if anyone is interested in the genesis of the Riders. Plus a few great tunes with Bobby singing lead, and Jerry explaining how to play the pedal steel. Priceless stuff.

Use the newly discovered June '68 tapes from the Owsley stash as the centerpiece of a small box of '68 tapes, including the loose ends. While tapes do surface occasionally, I don't see more '68 tapes being discovered, unless there's more in Owsley's unmarked boxes. When Mtn Girl turned over a batch of tapes, Dave L immediately (well, within a year) put out an especially rare single disc that included a Pigpen solo set. So there's precedent for Dave rocking the boat.

And if you like Gram Parsons and the Flying Burritos, there's an out-of-print two-disc release of them live in -- I think -- '68. Recorded by ... Owsley.

Really?......good to know. Thanks for the info. I just assumed it was NRPS due to the song and drummer. Movie never showed who was singing. I must have been smelling too many turbine fumes on the Ohio River during the 2022 Madison Regatta. If anyone wants to see a hydroplane doing a 540 degree flip at 200 mph, check out utoob for the final heat at this years race.

Is the one you speak of with the Pig solo set the one which the show was advertised as "Bobby Ace and the Cards From the Bottom of the Deck & Mickey and the Heartbeats"? I have a 2-LP copy of that with the 4th side solo Pig on guitar.

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HF, funny Gram Parsons should come up. I'm reading an excellent and thorough biography of Gram called "20,000 Roads". As the bio describes his different studio work, I've been listening to each one. After the Burritos, he made two albums for Warner called " GP" and "Desolate Angel" Both are great and feature Emmy Lou Harris singing duets with Gram. Gram hired Elvis's band including James Burton for his back up band for both Warner LP's. Highly recommended.

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I know the name gram parsons and that he died young
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It's on the way ,The Avalon, Fillmore, Carousel Ballroom , Fillmore West, Winterland,, Greek , Frost, Shoreline,,Warfield Theatre, Orpheum Theatre, Oakland Auditorium, this box set is gonna be a killer. The Bay Area, where it all started!

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....and youtooob this land is your land los lobos with Jerry Garcia & Bob Weir. Copy and paste what I just typed.
Go! Now!

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Not only great in his own right, but also a major influence on The Stones ( among others) during their creative peak-1968-1972. He features as a member of The Stones touring party in Stanley Booth's excellent "True Adventures of The Rolling Stones"-possibly the best book I have ever read on The Stones, and he was photographed at Nellcote during the recording of Exile. I don't think he appears physically on any of The Stones albums from this period, but his spiritual presence is palpable.

The first few Emmylou Harris albums blend nicely with those solo Gram parsons albums, too.

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Rest in Peace and via con dios Sonny. We shared a birthday. I don't know any Hell's Angels anymore, but back in the 70's and early 80's I did, and they were one of the most colorful and courteous people we knew. Scarry, Big and looked a bit like Pig. When he wore his colors, we could not be touched. The Angels got a bad rep and it stayed with them. I think the movie "Gimme Shelter" had a lot to do with that. Jerry once said that Grateful Dead music was for everyone, perceived good or evil. yin and yang. 83 and lost his battle with cancer. Anybody out there got any Hell's Angels stories they would like to share?

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I'd bump into the English variety ( stop laughing at the back) during the 70's from time to time. They didn't seem very threatening to me, I have to say. Not really what you might call match fit. If any of them had picked on me, I always felt that I would have been able to run away from them easily, and they would never have been able to catch me.

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Colo. initiative 58 this fall if the signatures pass the test. Decriminalize possession only I think. Might include spiritual clinics where one (21 and over) could improve their mental wellbeing? Still no sales though at this time. I think Denver decriminalized in 2019.
Never thought I'd live to see the day.
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Had to follow up with Vince Jerry and Bob doing the national anthem. Priceless!

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I don't have a personal story to tell, but for anyone who is interested, Google "Hell's Angels visit Apple Records".
It's quite comical, and they did not behave so well. I'm pretty sure this is Christmas of '69 or thereabouts.
I also have it on good advice from a friend in retail that she had regular "Biker Clubs" visit her store, and she states that they were some of the MOST polite customers she ever had. If one stepped out of line, the leader would inevitably make that person apologize. How about that??

I have no thoughts on the upcoming box announcement, but I would certainly love anything prior to 1971.
If it's later than that, it's just not worth the inevitable "discussion" with my wife about why I have no self control when it comes to music.

I've been listening to 2-3 albums per artist lately, so my last 5 would be:

Gomez
REM
Terry Riley
Pharoah Sanders
Joe Jackson

Music is the Best!!

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Emmy said she learned a lot from harmonizing with Gram, and how to sing without over emotionalizing, so that could influence her first albums after he passed. Also, she hired the same band that Gram used for both his two solo albums, so there could be some similarity and familiarity there.

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a long time ago I met a guy via a dude. The guy (a biker) said his name was "Animal". He showed me the "1% handshake". He said, "It could save your life someday".

I have never forgotten that little tip. I still haven't had to use it, but I keep it in a remote part of my brain, just in case.

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