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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Dogon
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    Well, it certainly helped that I lived and worked in London at the time. If I had already moved to Sweden it might have been zero!
    ( I live in Skåne, so might have been able to make it over to Copenhagen I suppose!).
    I had first heard about the Dead while on a school trip to Denmark in a review of Monterey, got intrigued by the name, got home and bought the first album on day of UK release. Funnily enough it took me time to get Anthem, but when I GOT it, there was no looking back, I liked plenty of SF bands as well and bought in to the whole Beat/Digger alternative scene big time. Of course, living so far away I projected a lot of my own anarchic hopes and desires on the band.
    But for me the Dead were not just another band, so it was a no brainer to see them as much as I could, but if Wembley hadnt been the Skullf*ck that it was, I probably wouldnt have chased down tickets for Lyceum ( 2 quid a pop, up from one pound for Wembley!).
    Bickershaw was more an afterthought, a bunch of mates were going, and I tagged along, I mean the Dead AND Don van Vliet!
    By the time the wall of sound rolled around a lot of the magic had rubbed off, in my opinion the new songs didnt carry the same profound weight of the Workingmans or American Beauty songs, could never stand US Blues or Loose Lucy for example. I found the sound brittle in a way, perhaps even joyless?
    I spent the next few years with diminishing returns, dabbled a bit with the Paisley Underground, till I realised that no rock band could ever rival the magnificence of the Dead in their pomp- so I started to listen to jazz instead! And didnt really give the boys another thought till one and two from the Vault. Then I began catching up with their post hiatus iteration, but sorry, for me I have found nothing of interest after Keith left,

  • hendrixfreak
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    Holy Moly, dogon

    Five effin' E 72 shows! I bow to you... The Lyceum shows must have been plush and epic, especially after the mudfest at Bickershaw. After Watkins Glen, I swore off standing in the mud in the rain, despite having the best rock bands ever in front of me. At least at Red Rocks you're standing on concrete or wood and each row has a kind of drainage channel under the overhanging wood seats. Still, at that ABB show I referenced, the day went from sunny and 80 degrees to pouring freezing rain at about 40 degrees. I've upped my game since then with a full daypack of gear, just in case...

    What I Iike about Bickershaw, apart from the music itself, is that it sounds like an outdoor show at high volume. Something about their style of playing seems slightly different than theater shows. Akin to, if quite different from, some of the summer '73 shows or Golden Gate Park '75 or Englishtown '77 in that the band is playing louder and may be more spread out on the stage -- not sure how to describe the sonic qualities that I think I hear (or project).

    In any case, dogon, I think the band rose to the occasion of the E 72 tour as they had gelled again after Keith joined and probably felt they wanted to be at their best musically for a Euro audience, not to mention getting a record out the journey. Kinda weird how, between the fall '72 release of what was then an epic 3-LP pkg, all of two hours long (!) and 2011, 40 years later, when they put out 73 CDs of the entire tour, more than 30x the amount of music. Two friends and I took 2 1/2 years to go through that steamer trunk, just a little over a month between shows. That really allowed us to dig in. (Too bad I didn't take notes...) We had a no-talking rule while the music played and took breaks when the band did. If someone erupted verbally at some amazing riff, as happened often, the other two guys would shoot daggers with their eyes and during set breaks we babbled like crazy men.

    Downright amazing we have that music. In fact, I recently thought maybe I should stop buying GD shows and listen to what I've got. That conversation in my head was fairly comprehensive and convincing, ending with ... NOT! As has been stated by many before me, I need just one more show.....

  • proudfoot
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    Road trip tomorrow

    Daves 42!!!

    While going through my collection, I found a happy surprise

    Complete shows of 2/13/70 and 2/14/70 (at least complete recordings)

    I obviously forgot I had that. Dont know how, but I did.

    Road trip
    Daves 42
    5 8 77
    6 10 73
    Steppin' Out
    5 28 77

    :)))

  • Dennis
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    Gary and DaP 1 vinyl

    Got mine yesterday.

    I opened mine just to look at the etching on the 10th side.

    I was happy to see they didn't use the cd cover and just blow it up to fit an album. (like dp19(?) they blew up the cover and it looks a little pixelated. But this cover is crisp and clear.

    I like how the side of box has number 1 at the top and large. Gives hope all of the Dave's will make vinyl someday.

    Have you seen the prices for this on ebay!!!! Quick scan 300 to 600 hundred!

    Oi Vey

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    With that kind of mojo going on, perhaps you should purchase a lottery ticket!

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    Thanks for posting again. I forgot about the discussion we had last fall (?) about the older heads in our midst. Forgot about your shows, in particular, the Newcastle-Under-Lyme (Hollywood Festival/Lower Finney Green). Congrats on Bickershaw as well.

    Was in my kitchen fixin another pot of coffee when I heard a thud out front. Forgot 42 was tracking to be delvered today. Go outside and see DaP1V box with x2 on it. Thought well post office will have to make a second trip today to deliver 42. Opened it up and both 42 and DaP1V were in the same day. Made my day for sure. DaP1V looks incredible. And for me, it is the first vinyl I have bought in 36 years, wow. Not sure I will open or not. Not sure if I will pull out one of the 2 turntables I have over years. Blue Crow, I am a with you there a bit. I am not a horder, I don't save every mustard bottle I buy. I do hang onto things I consider valuable, hence the turntable, as a collector. It does mean some clutter around here but not bad at all.

    G

    Edit: Both came in the same box...duh failed proofreading.

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    Hey Drpryan, Looks like my Dave's was delivered to my post office box yesterday (Saturday). I hope to get into town tomorrow to snag it, and will make a scan of the Bonus CD available as soon as I can. Looking forward to spinning this one! Onward.

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    Bad enough to get endless messages about things running out, or sign up now to keep up with dead news. EXCEPT, when you're already signed up and my fav ad's for things you've already bought!!

    hammacher schlemmer ask me once a week about buying that teak wood shower bench,,,,, that I bought 2 years ago!

    And don't EVER look at an item on amazon,,, same thing.

    It's always funny, but a little annoying.

  • Dogon
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    Like Simonrob, I attended Euro 72.
    Several shows in fact, Second Wembley show, Bickershaw, and 3 Lyceum, but which 3 I can no longer remember.
    I was actually also onboard as a very young whippersnapper, for their previous visit at Newcastle Under Lyme.
    After that just 2 of the 3 AllyPally ( where I was very disappointed, thinking that the band had changed for the worst-though I actually liked Seastones!!?!!)
    And then, that was that.

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    8-12-79 at Red Rocks was my first Brent show. He blew us away. Not a rainout. Most excellent. Was so let down that the rain had the next two nights at the sonically challenged McNichol's. But we still got our Nobody's Jam. But likewise my first attempt at seeing a three night run was somewhat disappointing. The weather is always a crap shoot in CO. My track record for the Telluride Bluegrass Festival confirms that.

    Happy Mother's Day. Everyone call your mother!
    Cheers

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Ordered already !!!

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

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Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

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One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

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I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

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Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

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Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
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38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

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It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

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…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

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So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

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I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

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Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

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I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

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Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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