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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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May 19, 2022 - 12:54pm

#1001

proudfoot

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Grundy

Huh huh

Thats what we called wedgies in my youthful youth
May 19, 2022 - 12:52pm

#1002

Oroborous

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Right on Bluecrow

Check your PM
May 19, 2022 - 12:44pm

#1003

bluecrow

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Eric Nesterenko

that's a name I haven't heard for ages and instantly recognized. Nesterenko was a core player with the Blackhawks when I was a kid. Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita, Pit Martin, Tony Esposito and others. Legends. Born in Flin Flon, Manitoba (Flin Flon - what a cool name). Parents were Ukranian immigrants.
May 19, 2022 - 10:47am

#1004

daverock

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Johnny Rotten wasn't so hard

I met him once. Sort of. It was at the Electric Circus in Manchester in December 1976 a few days after the interview with Bill Grundy had been broadcast on television. There were 4 bands on that night, and the Sex Pistols were last on. I went on my own.
Between bands I went to the bar upstairs for a pint and a breather. It was virtually empty - but the Pistols were there, talking to some girls at the bar. I got my drink and slumped down..and then got the feeling someone was looking at me. I looked at the next table, and it was Johnny Rotten , also sitting on his own. I mumbled a greeting, and he mumbled one back. Then he re joined the band and they went on. Not exactly great meetings of our time.

Despite the fact that he had short hair and...well he was a punk....and I had very long hair and looked like - well I don't know what I looked like - but I sensed that we were cut from the same cloth at that time. Both about 19, skinny, mad..
I'm glad Sid Vicious wasn't there, though.
May 19, 2022 - 10:27am

#1005

Oroborous

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Mr Smith, and Hockey of course ; )

Wow, beyond cool Jeff! Those windows and that story was awesome! I can relate to egos, rich folk, and crazy deadlines. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with those so much anymore. Like y’all didn’t have enough to deal with without some DB mucking up the works. Shoulda dosed him lol. Seems like you’ve found the hard to get niche of art and commerce that’s cool and invigorating and not the soul crushing constantly compromised for cash scenario, kudos!

Many celebrity brush ups but since it’s hockey season I’ll just share a related one. Mikes telling of the real great one, Gordy Howe, made me remember my time with the great but perhaps unknown by all except the most dedicated and perhaps “mature” hockey nuts. Almost 25 years ago when we first moved in the area we live in, my first job was at a golf club. I’d dropped outta grad school and for various reasons just wanted something less stressful and to be outside in the mountains etc. after a few years I became the outside staff manager.
The director of golf had hired this old, literally crooked sort of old bent guy who had a been an NHL warrior back in the bad ole daze of Eddie Shore, Gordie Howe etc named Eric Nesterenko.
He played over twenty years which is kind of amazing if you understand what hockey was like back then. So here’s this beat up old supposed legend working for me as a starter/ranger at an off the path club in the middle of nowhere.
Well Eric was quite a guy but not much of an employee.
He had two problems: as a starter he was never at the first tee box. Usually I could find him at the driving range which was no bueno because although we had liberal privileges at the club, we were not to use the facilities on the clock or in uniform. Well there’d be Eric 8 outta 10 times at the range. Now if that wasn’t enough, he was a machine and would not just hit a few balls, he go through ever damn ball on the range lol. I mean these were Titleist den caddies: (hollow mini golf bags full of about 300 balls), times about 15 stations on the range, that’s A LOT of balls and would wipe out most folks. But Nester would routinely go through ever ball out there.
The other habit he had, as a ranger, people can be aholes when the ranger needs to repeatedly get on them. But hey, that’s their job and the offender was mucking things up for everyone else. I’m sure anyone who’s golfed regularly knows what it’s like being stuck behind rich ahole arm chair Tiger Woods, not fun!
So Nesters problem was when some of these folks would get uppity with him, he’d be ready to drop the gloves!
Now we thought that was hilarious, and some of these nutnics probably deserved a couple elbows in the corner, but of course professionally we had to act shocked, liked we cared when these dipshits complained about him.
I never got to no him that well, but he was always a respectful gentleman to me and the staff, and we loved working with him.
The amazing thing was, even years later, he continued to be a ski instructor in vail, even after all his body had been through! About 10-15 years after I worked with him, we had a gig at a tiny little place in vail. So small we were only allowed to use like one powered monitor with acoustic instruments. Nester, and his son, along with several others were regulars there for apre’ ski. We did the gig mostly because of the fun atmosphere, it was an early gig, and you didn’t need to schlep Amps/PA etc It was mostly for fun, which it was. In fact it got too big so they cancelled us. Imagine that: we’re making too much money and it’s too popular so you can’t play here anymore lol. Well not only was it fun, but Nester and all the regulars took really good care of us too. Some nights we’d actually make ok money!
I haven’t seen Nester in years, but I think he might still be up the hill giving lessons if at all possible.

So speaking of hockey, wow, wild games last night! Not a big Rangers fan (no offense) so loved that outcome, and holy crap I hope the whole Battle for Alberta series is like last night! Wow! Tonight…
GO AVS!
May 19, 2022 - 8:28am

#1006

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If i saw Johnny Rotten in person up close

I would run away.

I love NMTB and PIL's first two albums, but...he seems to be someone to avoid contact with.
May 19, 2022 - 8:25am

#1007

That Mike

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Chuck Berry

Jeff - Great guy to meet in Chuck Berry, that is gold! Great story, and your art work is amazing. What was Chuck Berry's reaction to seeing the work?

I would say my meetings with celebrities has been great, overall. I worked a boat show in the 90s, and in the booth next to us was Desmond Llewelyn, infamous as "Q" in the James Bond series. It was a super dead night in January, and he was so nice. He was there for some company, and they were featuring that silly "Alligator Sub" from one of the cheesy Roger Moore movies (I was glad when they dumped Moore). I lost the poster he signed in one of many moves, regretably.

Of the folks I met, Sir Edmund Hillary was top of my list for sheer respect, and he and Gordie Howe both had hands like dinner plates. Big dinner plates. Chris Hillman (pictured) was terrific, as was Herb Pedersen, and Gene Clark. Dan Akroyd was a hoot, and I still have the wine bottle he signed (sans the wine!). Rod Serling's daughter (Anne) and Byron Berline (fiddle master) both signed books for me, but the one that moved me the most was Kim Phuc, known infamously as "The Girl In The Picture", running naked as a little child from an errant napalm bombing in South Vietnam. She lives in the next town over, and she is the most spiritual person I have ever met, not at all defined by the atrocities done to her, or that she had seen.

I'd love to have met Jerry Garcia, I understand he was about the most centred guy you could meet. I'm still holding out to meet Dylan, but I always get the feeling he may be somewhat jaded about that kind of an encounter.
May 19, 2022 - 8:02am

#1008

Nick1234

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Meeting celebrities

I worked at an Executive Jet Centre a few years ago for a while, rich people and celebrities, singers on tour etc. Rich people generally were great, polite and respectful, celebrities less so.

I've literally bumped into Roy Orbison and Johnny Rotten. Roy smiled and ruffled my hair, I was about 8 at the time, and Johnny said nothing but the gorilla of a minder behind him (it was in the pub next to the Rainbow Theatre, London, before the Ramones New Year's Eve gig 1977ish) wasn't too polite.
May 19, 2022 - 8:01am

#1009

JeffSmith

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Europe 72' Limited Edition Hoodies

Scott McDougall's Europe '72 artwork is some of the most memorable and among my favorite GD cover art. In case it hasn't been mentioned, Europe '72 hoodies are on sale for $58 at Section119 dot com. Looks like "Munich" is sold out.
May 19, 2022 - 7:22am

#1010

JeffSmith

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Getting in tune with Chuck

I was surprised to find an unsuspecting Phil Lesh at a table at the Bar at Terrapin Crossroads one night a few years ago – wasn’t as quick on my feet at Keithfan was with Chris Squire. Sort of mumbled “Hi!” and “Thanks!” and dumb stuff.

What I’ll never forget is the time I met Chuck Berry. He was the featured guest at the Grand Opening Night Gala for Dallas’s Hard Rock Cafe in 1986. I was lead artist/coordinator for the making of the Hard Rock's Elvis, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis stained glass windows, which earned me a coveted invite to the HRC’s VIP “Cheese Club” upstairs for a seated dinner. In fact I sat next to Chuck’s gorgeous daughter. After the meal, everyone exited back into the crush of revelers. All of us were partying hardy. During the transformation of this old church into the HRC, I’d discovered a hidden “nook” where I escaped for some calm.

The next thing I knew club owner and visionary, Isaac Tigrett, opened the secret door to “my” nook, and told Chuck Berry he could tune and warm up there. Nobody asked me to leave, so I spent 20 or 30 minutes listening to Chuck play. We chatted a little about growing up in Missouri and Arkansas. Chuck was still kinda pissed at the way he’d been treated by the taxman, the law and the record companies. Then, before I knew it, a manager stuck his head in and led Chuck to where he waited until being introduced by Dan Ackroyd and proceeding to blow the top off the place. The Paul Schafer Band played most of the rest of the time.

For more about the Chuck Berry and other two HRC windows (remove the "dot"s and "spaces" first):

Slideshow:
archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=slideshow

Tedious Story:
archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=text

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Found It!!!

Ordered already !!!

Dave's #43. Great release

My order is in, what a great realease.

MSG Box

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

Cool 80's box

Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

3 10 81

One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

Box Set

I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

Virtually Complete

Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

If this new box doesn't do it for you,

then why bother considering yourself a Deadhead

Why bother?

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

A mighty flame followeth a tiny spark......

Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
Bee to the blossom, moth to the flame; Each to his passion; what's in a name?

Anniversary show 7/14/84 / Doc. Fillmore West box

38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

Hate's too strong a word

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

For Moi

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

Love and Hate

It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

It’s A Thin Line…

…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

Love and Hate

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

So I know this is off topic …

So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

What He Said

I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

Row 22, Jimmy?

Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

Dear Dave-

So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

‘69 Dead Again

I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

Non-GD music

What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

Random gripe

The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

Dear J3FF

I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

Who hears repeated dropouts…

Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

vocal dropouts

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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