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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    Europe 72 box set / Fillmore West box set

    I see a few brand new copies of the Europe 72 steamer trunk on eBay ranging from $2395.00 to $4500.00. You can buy it at a lesser price for one that's not rated brand new. I think I bought the Fillmore West box for $80.00 when it first came out ; I bought 2 copies one for me and one for my brother. The Grateful Dead used to send out an almanac in the. mail and that's where I heard about it. It didn't sell out right away. I don't think that this web site was even up at that time.

  • DeadVikes
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    I would keep your eyes on eBay for the E72 Steamer Trunk. Sometimes you can get lucky. Negotiate, sometimes it works. Discogs is risky for that big of a purchase because if something goes awry you have zero protection. There is no discogs customer service or even human beings that run that site. At least with eBay you have eBay guarantees if the seller doesn't offer them.
    I got one after all these years last September and it was worth it.

  • daverock
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    Missing the box.

    I missed out on FW69 box which led to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. But over the last few years, three of those years have come out on vinyl, and hopefully the fourth will be following on in the near future. So I'm not so bothered about missing out on the cd box now.
    Maybe all the shows from the E72 tour will be released on vinyl, too, over the next few years. Not much use if you don't buy records...but a good incentive to (re) start if you didn't get the trunk.

  • Crow Told Me
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    It Costs a Lot to Play, Even More to Lose

    If I were betting man I’d be willing to wager that the Lyceum vinyl set sells out, eventually, and as soon as it does, it’ll sell for at least $1,000 on the “secondary market.” Because that’s what happens with more or less every limited edition release. Want to buy any of the early Dave’s Picks you missed out on? Some of those go for about $400 now.

    So, if I was smart, I’d probably buy two copies of the Lyceum set, sell one of ‘em, and keep one copy to have and to hold, basically for free. But this will not be happening, for two reasons: 1) I don’t have $1,100 to invest in anything right now, and 2) I would find a way to fuck this up somehow. (Once, I decided it would be a brilliant idea to spend my student loan money on a large quantity of weed, and then sell enough of it to make my money back, so that I could have a somewhat smaller but still fairly large amount of weed to smoke, for “free.” Six weeks later, I had neither money nor weed, and I’m still not entirely sure what happened. But I can guess.)

    I really wish I’d bought the Europe box, now, too. But I think it was about $450 when it came out, which seemed like a lot of money, then. Nowadays, individual volumes from that set usually sell for $100-200 each. Or more. Topchinacat, if you want to buy the whole set, you can usually find one at discogs.com ... if you’re willing to pay $1500-2000.

    It’s kind of weird there’s never been a Greek box, isn’t it? Wonder why. Maybe because a lot of those shows were broadcast on KPFA and there’s a lot of boots out there? Maybe the available source recordings weren’t well preserved? Maybe because it’s too obvious, and TPTB would rather surprise us with something we would never have guessed? All of the above? None?

    Someday, everything's gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece.

  • Colin Gould
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    Arrived at last

    My copy of DaP #42 has arrived today. It will have to wait to be played as I’m expecting to be out all of tomorrow and I had deliveries of around 24 cds of varying genres so I’ll have to work my way through them.
    I’ll change my header photo as soon as I have time which will probably be Thursday so the weather underground will have to remain for a little while longer

  • proudfoot
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    box envy

    yeah...I have that regarding Fillmore West and Winterland 73 (and isn't there a Winterland June 77 box?)

    thanks a lot, "thinking I was being responsible with my money at the time."

    I do have unofficial copies of many or all of these shows, but I kinda wish at times I had the official material.

    I will NOT pass up a primal box or a Greek box. "Best of GD88 first sets box" I can live without.

  • nitecat
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    I have box envy too. I was unaware of the FW box. I got back on board when Spring 90 TOO was coming out and I listened to the pristine 24 track recordings on the listening party. Brought me right back in. Started collecting boxes right away. Picked up the Trunk and several other boxes I missed on ebay. Filled in my Dick's collection. I'm hooked now. Never sprung for the FW box, though. Now it's so pricy. I guess I'll wait until I feel flush again.

  • hendrixfreak
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    It's only Tuesday, but...

    I'm unanimous in awarding JimInMD the line of the week: "I have hatchet guilt." Actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

    I have box set envy: I missed buying FW69 and Winterland Nov 73. It's all psychological. At the precise times those sets came out I felt I could not justify another $100 GD box. Imagine the shortsightedness. Revel in the stupidity. Feel the frustration: Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! (Friends have shared the music, so I'll be okay...)

    This is only somewhat mitigated by the fact that I chipped in for a friend's copy of the trunk and 30 Trips, only to encourage their procurement and enjoyment. So there's that.

    Back to business: Dave's cryptic remarks never reveal anything. It's like the Federal Reserve chairman or Kremlin-watching. It's all about the freakin' tea leaves. At least I think we know now that Dave's earlier reference to "variety" meant vinyl. Henceforth if he uses the word "primal" I'm camping by the laptop...

  • topchinacat
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    I too really love the artwork (Kwakiutl?) for the PNW box ... but it's more about the music than the art (no offense intended). And speaking of boxes, I wish to hell I'd picked up the E72 trunk .... I've got all the Dick's, but somehow, I checked out for a couple of years and only have most (not all) of the Dave's and Road Trips. I think that since I have had pretty decent boards on cassette for about a dozen of the E72 shows( and considering the cost), I didn't bite. Not too smart. Anyone have ideas on how to get a Trunk at this juncture? I am quite certain that Mrs. Cat would not appreciate the expenditure any more today than in the past, but this is a bridge that would be crossed at that time.....

  • proudfoot
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    Better hatchet guilt than hatchet envy

    nyuk nyuk

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Ordered already !!!

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

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Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

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One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

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I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

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Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

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Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
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38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

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It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

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…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

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So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

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I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

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Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

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I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

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Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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