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  • Oroborous
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    31, bring it!
    Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!

  • Thats_Otis
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    Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

    Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

    Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

    DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

    So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

    Peace

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    Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
    I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

    Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
    Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

    Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?

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    6.28.85 Hershey Park....

    ....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
    Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.

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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Shoot, I don't have that one OB.

I know Jim is still without access to the archive.

You saw some great shows in some hot years.

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Is tomorrow ok?

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That was a rippin' full speed ahead show. Personally not familiar with fall '82 despite the Alpine '82 shows being foundational in my shows-attended timeline. Will say I never cared for Brent chiming in on Little Red Rooster but always thought that was a late-period thing but here it was in '82. Great Althea > Let it Grow to finish Set I. Pre-drumz Set II is a very much only that era "we've got some new songs and we want to play them" thing. With a driving Ship of Fools in there :) "Ashes to ashes" outro with Bob and Jerry on vocals. Post space awesome. Beautiful longer Wheel intro. Other One! Wharf Rat!! In the end Brent so fired up he's vocally comping a jam in JBG (IIRC). Cherry on top is a beautiful Baby Blue encore.

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7-17-89 anniversary.
I just started Down Hill From Here.

My second show……
(didn’t know I was supposed to go all 3 nights)

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Hey rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Roosevelt Stadium, July 18, 1972

Outdoors, Summer time, Grateful Dead. Sounds great. For all you weather history buffs, 78-90 degrees, light winds, no rain. Perfect weather for a mammoth Dead show!!

And mammoth it was, a three set stomper!

Solid 14 song first set, that saw the return of Bird Song---in a much more jammy form---after an absence of almost a year, a nice China Rider, cowboy songs, and other sundry rock-n-rollers.

Set two kicks in with a 14 minute gallop through Playing In The Band and features a Truckin’/Dark Star/Comes A Time that even Keithfan would approve of. In fact, I think Jerry was channeling his inner pterodactyl during that Star!!

The somewhat Jerrycentric third set features a very-new-at-the-time Half Step transitioning smoothly into a soulful Sing Me Back Home, followed by a typical 1972, lilting yet rocking Not Fade Away suite.

The Saturday Night encore is missing from the esteemed Mr Miller’s 2006 remaster.

Will it ever make Official Release? I have my doubts. The sound isn’t quite as crispy as some other 72s, and there’s a few audience patches. Even so, worth a listen…………..

Rock on,

Doc
Oppression does not make for hearts as big as all outdoors……

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I’m going to open an Oberon after typing this.

Yes, all 3 nights of Alpine 89 on Blu-ray and CD.

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Holy crap, what a great second show (run). I wish I was there. I caught 87 and 88 but circumstances beyond my control prevented me from seeing 89 and by 90.. tail between my legs, I had to rejoin the human race. When I started working in 1990, people still wore suits and ties to work and they had just yanked cigarettes and ashtrays from offices. The Chainsmokers will still quite pissed off about that. Remember those days?

Oro.. what a divine pick 11/8/69 was. When I heard that one tossed out, I tried like hell to fit some fungal shenanigans into the mix, but I could not pull that one off this week. Holy cow what a great show. No wonder Dick held it in such high regards. My memories (I don't hit this one often) were a great show but the recording lacked. On this listen, I thought the recording sounded remarkably good. The first set was much better than what my grey matter tried to tell me, that jam towards then of Schoolgirl for instance, just kept on giving. Pigpen, 13 years of age? It's getting harder and harder to forgive you man, but we love you.

Easy Wind, .. the China Rider was great, especially for the era - they were dialed in and gave us a great, early transition jam. High Time, even the Good Lovin was great and that one is not always on my greatest jam vehicle list. It's got a Cumberland. But the goodies were in the last 90+ minutes of the show. The Dark Star sequence (Dark Star/The Other One/Dark Star/Uncle John's Band Jam/Dark Star/St. Stephen/The Eleven/Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)/Feedback/And We Bid You Goodnight) is one for the ages. There must have been something in the water (or coffee pot).

In fact, this paired up with Alpine 89 are two very high water marks in my humble opinion and to have them come up in the same thread at the same time is powerful juju.

Wowwow stuff

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Enjoyed 7/18/72 Doc, great show. Agree the recording is not pristine but still good.

How about a pristine 72 recording. 7/21/72 from Seattle? I believe this was from the Download Series #10. Let me know if there is any interest in this one.

Keep that Oberon flowing Conekid, I don't think it will be around too much longer this summer.

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I was going to propose a 2 for Tuesday: 9/18/87 & 4/25/77 from Boxilla?
In fact, I already started 😇
Their both short…
But let me see if I have 7/21/72, I don’t think I have that one?

EDIT: nope, don’t have it. I’ll stream it mañana.

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9/18/87 check
4/25/77 check
7/21/72 check

Sorry Conekid, no Alpine. That’s probably good as I don’t want to watch that one too much, burn it out.

After the solid status quo 7/18/72 (though that DS was fine!), the magnificence of 11/8/69 (see Jim’s synopsis), and listening more to new jazz, lately, went big today!

I had heard the 87 Boxilla once I think, so it was nice to get reacquainted. Seemed to build as it progressed. With a fun GL>Bamba>GL, Bamba sung by JG in Espanol no less! Forgot how they made GL fresh again paring with Bamba etc.

4/25/77 I had not heard yet. Another that seemed to build with sweet Terrapin Playin etc. Not your usual 77 Playin?

Then back to 72 with a looonnnggg show! Can’t recall anything really jumping out one way or another, so yet another “status quo” show. Oh, cool attempt at what might be the first of WRS Prelude. DB lists 11/19, but this is at least an attempt lol. Summer 72 kinda uncharted for me, so nice to check some out. But next time I think it’ll have to be just one show lol.
ONWARD!

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DV,
the beer store I go to recently got a stack of 12-packs, 2 per cardboard tray, that were canned on 6/19. I bought 4 cases so far and am going to get more before it’s gone. Store it in my basement so it doesn’t get too warm. I’ll keep buying and maintaining the stash of 4-5 cases until it’s gone. I can usually make it to Oct/Nov until I have to switch to something else.

Man, OB, you really are an overachiever with getting in those three shows yesterday. The 87 30 Trips show is always a good one to listen to, it is fun. Audio quality is decent. The 77 30 Trips show is good but has never really struck me as great, but that is what makes this all so interesting. You never knew what you would get.
7/21/72 from the Download Series was one that surprised how good it was the first time I listened to it. Sound quality is really good and performance is outstanding. Sugaree, BTW, Cumberland to start. I like these early versions of Stella Blue. You get Bob with the first WRS prelude after Casey Jones that he stops a few minutes into it. Solid second set, He's Gone Truckin, big Other One. Great show.

I still wish they would release all these download series shows on CD as well as the RT Download shows from 11/5 and 11/6/79. They are already mastered and ready to go. Why not? More music.

Hey Conekid, sounds like you are well stocked for a while. You should try Bell's Octoberfest this year, another fine Bell's Beer they put out in August and September.

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to note that we just launched Grateful Dead on Discord for still more discussion and gathering, so come on down and join in: discord.gg/gratefuldead
Thanks and now back to the pick of the day...
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Hey rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Paramount Theater, Seattle July 21, 1972

LOL somebody beat me to the punch yesterday, but since I write these years in advance, here we are & here we go......

It was to be expected that there would be an energy dip after the white-hot brilliance of the Europe 72 tour……………

Here is a nice little show that one never hears about, most was officially released as part of the download series back in February of 2006. Has it really been that long????

OK, not classic by any stretch of the imagination, but it ain’t chopped liver either. If you were jonesing for some Dead, this would ease the pain. Plus, the official release included some choice filler from the following evening----Garcia channeling his inner Hank, Bobby going all jammy, plus nice versions of Bird Song, Morning Dew, Uncle John’s Band, and Saturday Night.

Lord, if it has to be mellow, let it be like this…………….

Love is a sacred reserve of energy; it is like the blood of spiritual evolution…..

Rock on,

Doc
I arise full of eagerness and energy, knowing well what achievement lies ahead of me.........

While we wait for other picks, I went with Maples Pavilion today, 2/9/73. Not a new show but there is a 2020 Miller out there and it sounds outstanding. Such a good show and you get the first Eyes!
Maybe Dave will release this one next year? Who knows, it would be great.
Get it out!

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Brent’s last.
Wow, 32 years ago.

I went to the 21st and 22nd (my 3rd and 4th) shows, but hadn’t bought a ticket for the 23rd because it was a Monday and I had to work. Of course, and I’ve told this story before, just like others had done before me I called in sick from a pay phone at a rest area. No way was I going to get home in time.

I have this show on DVD, think I will dig it out and give it a spin tonight and offer a beer toast to Brent.

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strikes me as a nice alignment between TDIGDH and POTDWD.

for some reason i've never really listened to this run, despite the fact that I grew up a Chicago (area) guy and the midwest and midwest shows are near and dear to my heart always. Plus the band was on in those days - saw 2 great shows less than a month earlier at Autzen.

maybe in part the sadness of Brent, and maybe in part that it's not Alpine which was the real "home' summer venue for us back in the 80s.

relatively new Healy/Pearson Ultramatrix. they closed Set I with a Trucking > Nobodys Jam > Smokestack??!! damn.

(yikes - it was 10th anniversary of Keith's death)

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They played 7-21-90 on Shakedown Stream, so we know they have the video.

7-18,19-90 got the DaP treatment, 7-21,22,23-90 should get the Box treatment.

Really enjoyed the 7/23 show. lots of goodness. really interesting Set I suite of songs. crushing terrapin. really fine mi-fu transition space > watchtower.

just cued up 7/21. missed the shakedown streams so new to me. Jerry bringing it on Jack-a Roe!

Just a Little Light is Brent's best song by far IMO

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I know, deep subject!

Sorry DV I skipped the 2/9/73 since I’d heard it not too long ago.
I know I’m in the minority, but I think there are other 73 shows I’d rather see out before that one.
It’s a good but sorta flows weird, yes the Eyes is perhaps one of the best first versions of perhaps any song,
Yes they do seven new songs, and again, I like it, just look at some of what else hasn’t been released from 73 yet. So it’s not that I don’t think this show is good, it’s just has really stiff competition, at least in mho.

Also didn’t hit the Brentskis this time, though I’ve seen the first and last and they were good. Hard to believe how soon he’d be gone : (

But I did hit: 7/25/82 and found it started feeling a little flat, but as is often the case built up nicely.
Not perhaps a top shelf 82, but still enjoyable.

12/12/92: being a 92 I didn’t expect too much, but this one really surprised me!
I actually listened to some of it twice. This I would call 92 top shelf, though I’ve not covered much ground there yet.
If ya like 92, you’ll want to check this one out! Hell check it out anyway!

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Hey no worries OB. Yes, 73, a year of riches with so much to offer. Maples remains high on my list and this relatively new Miller is A+.. Anyway, Tinley Park, I think Bob t was at these shows and makes an appearance in the video, pretty cool. I couldn't find a good version of 7/23 on the tube.
7/25/82, Tempe, AZ. I will have to check this out tomorrow.

I needed some 71 the other day and cracked out 11/15/71, RT3. 2. Looking forward to #43 maybe by the first week in August.

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Looks like HippieChick gotta new gig!
EDIT: Ooops. looks like Mary got rid of her lol.

Im sure DV Maples will see the light of day as you and pretty much everyone wants it, and yes that Miller did sound pretty dern good.
Though they usually don’t do anniversary stuff, you’d think they’d hit us up with a bunch of 73 next year: Box, Dave’s, perhaps a separate release and WOTF 50th…

Not sure if I’ll get hear anything today but will put it up if I do.

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Have this going now OB. I love shows that start with Half Step-Franklins, even with a few flubs from Jerry. Went with the Jim Vita audience and it sounds pretty good so far. Nice pick👍

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I suddenly had the urge to plunge into the PNW Box and listen to 5/17/74.
Listening to China > Rider right now. Top notch ‘74

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Played a couple of shows from it this month.

So, I bought a Cambridge Audio AXC35 CD player recently to go with my AXR100 receiver and WOW! A significant improvement in sound quality of my GD CD’s compared to my 10-year-old Onkyo 6-disc changer.
I like the 6-disc changer because you can load it up and press play, but the better sound quality is worth it to have to change CD’s (still not as bad as vinyl).

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Hey Dedhed68, yes, my baby gives me the finance blues, great show. Just hit this one not too long ago but great shows always deserve another listen.

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That China Rider from Vancouver contains one of my favorite moments from any GD show ever played. The sequence where the different parts come together at the conclusion of the jam between the two songs is beautiful and the crescendo at the end explodes as the two songs become one. I suspect when they finished this they all looked at each other for just a second and wondered to themselves, 'what did we just do and how the hell did we pull it off." It is the Grateful Dead at their very best. The one two days later in Portland is no slouch either.

wowwow stuff

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Ranks as one of the finer late era shows IMHO. Still looking for a board tape, but the AUD does suffice. Try it w/o looking at the set list before. Fun! :-)

P.S. A week before my first show...

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I was at 6-27,28-95 and they were a good time.
Also no SBD for those shows, last I checked. Not even a monitor mix.

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“…the weathers fine”

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The SOTM is no slouch either ('ol Jer nails it) Nice first set. Rain inspired 2nd set. Phil nailing Box of Rain. Thinking this might have been sweet as the '95 30 Trips representative. :-)

P.S. Buses are appropriate...but how about VW buses?

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Looking at 8/10/82, Iowa City for today. There are a couple of options, a audience transfer from Miller and a Healy SBD.
Let me know if this peaks anyone's interest.

Edit-I went with the Healy and it is sounding great so far.

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Not sure if I’ll get this in today as my current work situation has me somewhat tuneless : (
And we all know the situation is the boss!
No dead all week (“the horror”) so perhaps I’ll just listen on the device?
Little bit of somethin better than all of nothin!
Thanks guys for keeping the train on the tracks!

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Well DV I was able to MacGyver some shit together and thus was able to enjoy yet another solid show from 1982.
Perhaps a tad inconsistent here or there, but hey, that’s GD. Nice Stranger FOTD opening. (Sometimes those early Strangers are a tad strange). Sweet On the Road Again>BIODTL and great Cassidy! Energetic second set with full song list etc equals another example of why 82 could be for you!

But, forward, never straight, to perhaps some fine warm up for Dave’s 43, from 11/7/69.
I’ve never heard this one but if it’s half as good as it’s 11/8 neighbor it should be a delight.
All the big songs on a Miller SB, who’s with me!

EDIT: yep, 11/7/69 is muy bien! Totally teased…
Last 2 discs before bed from Rotterdam 72 ain’t too shabby either ; )

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Nice work on getting this one in OB. I agree this another great 82 show. There is something about these China Riders in 82 that really move it. As you said good first set, I really liked the Stagger Lee, Miracle, Bertha to close the first set. And want a second set. That China Rider to open, Lost Sailor, SOC, Eyes, great stuff. Cool Iko Iko out of drums/space into Truckin with a great finish and a two song encore. Definitely worth a listen for those that have not heard it.
Will get 11/7/69 going later today OB. Thanks. No #43 here yet.

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I squeezed this one in yesterday also. A nice little show indeed. The recording was pretty clean for the era, at higher volumes it did sound a little thin, the cassette master blues.. I like the setlists of some of these 82 shows also. Another new show for me.

Speaking of new shows, 11/7/69 fills another void.. off I go, should make a good ending to the weekend.

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No pick and no 43 in the PO Box : ( so palate cleanse with 6/20/92…

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Nice show. Sound quality was decent for 69. Thanks OB.

92, you say, okay, I will give it a go later. Just finishing 10/16/89. Haven't listened to this show in a while. Still delivers and a great release from something like 20 years ago. Need to listen to this one more often.

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11/7/69, phew, getting me itchin for 43!

10/16/89: I’ve always thought this was one of the best releases they put out but it seems to get no love?
Whatevs, to each the ur own. I love the song list, the audio, and the playing, all top shelf!
When o when will we get more fall 89 multitrack goodness?

6/20/92: another nice 92 surprise! Still think 6/8 and 6/22 are the ones to beat, but this tour is perhaps underrated!
Check it out, it’s a fun show. Sorry to plow ahead, just trying to get my fix in where/when I can since little to no tunes at work currently : (

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I always liked this release, and so you pulled me down the rabbit hole before I finished 11/7/69. First world problems.

Funny.. to me, there's two separate Playin' > UJB > Whatever Sammy's , pre-hiatus and post-hiatus. Like fraternal twins, I do not love one more than the other, there are similarities but are very different and wonderful in their own way. The pre-hiatus shows have the trippier, unpredictable on the edge of magic drive and the post hiatus often have a harder driving, freight train powerhouse feel.

This one starts with the famous Dark Star and weaves the entire second set into a PITB>UJB Sandwich. It is a little tighter and faster than many with some innovative midi. A really fun second set plus a tight first set (exception maybe Half Step?).

Anyway, I remember that laser disc effort So Far where they attempted UJB>PITB>Terrapin. They went for it and to me they just never got the spicy mustard, more of a warm mayo that was left out in the sun too long.. It was recorded in I think late '85 and they just were not on the same page. There are a bunch in 89 that achieved liftoff, this one is interesting. I was reading the reviews on the Archive and one poster commented they were "a band on a mission" that night. It might not be the best of the year, but I always thought was a solid effort.

Coincidentally, I grabbed a random waterproof ipod off the shelf for a day on the river this morning and hit play in the warmup rapids.. I never know what's on these devices, they have no screen so it's a great mystery. It picked up about halfway through the Morning Dew from 10/12/84 Augusta. After the song ended, I rewound and started the sequence over beginning with Don't Need Love>False Start PITB>Let's do UJB Instead>Drums>Space>PITB>UJB Reprise>Morning Dew. This one had the Spicy Mustard.

That's all I got.. as you were.

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I enjoyed this show and was surprised how much. I probably need to listen to more 92. Sound quality of the recording is A+ to my ears. Cold Rain and Snow, Wang Dang Doodle, FOTD and Maggie's Farm were highlights of the first set. Enjoyed the second set Corrina, Crazy Fingers Playing, UJB. Vince with Baba O'Reilly.
Thanks for the nudge to this show OB.
Still no #43 for me, however I received a shipping notice last night from this site.

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NOD is a happy show.

PITB -> UJB...check out 5/21/82.

92: I had cassettes of 2/24/92 which has a good setlist, but the cassettes are elsewhere now. C'est la vie.

6/20/92 has the great Space into CASEY JONES (HOOONK HOOONK!!!)

which they follow up with...Throwin' Stones. sigh.

6/28/92 is pretty good, as I recall from the cassettes.

Someday I'll mine the 92 seam of GD

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Hey rockers!

Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

Do I hear a violin? A saxophone? I think what I hear is loosely organized pandemonium……………or magic…………

If you’re a fan of deadweirdnesses, as I am, this one might be for you. The Hard To Handle opener doesn’t quite gel. On High Heeled Sneakers the band & guests channel their twisted stoner inner garage band. High Time and Mama Tried sound quasi-embyronic. The Dark Star is stand-alone, saxy, tasty, and for the time, not bad at all. What follows is a short Alligator, percussive interlude, a propulsive, saxy, violinesque Other One, and a very decent Caution (which gets very weird about half way through). The festivities are gently concluded with And We Bid You Goodnight……

Musically, for the Grateful Dead the Summer of 1969 was uneven, to say the least. Highs, lows, and everything in between. Miller’s remaster is actually pretty listenable. Dare to indulge!

Every weird thing about you is beautiful and makes life interesting.

Rock on,

Doc
The world is a crazy, beautiful, ugly complicated place, and it keeps moving on from crisis to strangeness to beauty to weirdness to tragedy…..

Hey, y'all. Where has the time gone!

I'll spare you my usual Joycean brevity today with just a couple of short remarks and a question.

Forensicdoceleven > That sounds right up my alley!

Oroborous > By chance, I've been listening to a lot of that Rotterdam '72 show lately too. Mega Dark Star, and just all around good stuff. Not sure why someone thought that the drum solo needed to be separated from Dark Star, though, and Dark Star split into two tracks. It sounds like Phil wants to play Bird Song toward the end, but gets denied. Then it seems like he's the one who first hints at Caution, and this time everyone agrees. Great stuff. There seem to be lots of teasing going on in various jams.

The 50th anniversary of Europe '72 has had me digging deeper into the Euro 72 tour. I've got One More Saturday Night on the brain! For some reason the Dusseldorf 4/24/72 rendition got me more excited than usual. Really tight, high energy, without going Hy Hy Hyyyy Hysterical.

I guess you guys mostly stream the SBDs, but does anyone who DLs AUDs have any recomendations for an ID Tag/Metadata editor?

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Good to hear from you Rockthing, it has been a while.

Any picks for today?

If nothing surfaces, I may have to pull up Dave's #8, 11/30/1980.

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DeadVikes > 11/30/80: Pretty sure I have not heard that, which makes it as good a choice as any.

I've never managed to snare any of the Dave's Picks and with inflation and ultra weak Yen the way it is, I'm less and less likely to have anything physical imported from halfway around the world.

I'm more than happy to have a dig through the Archive now that I've got a little time on my hands, but the closest I can come in 1980 with something in my actual collection is the Alaska Summer Solstice gig, which I listen to pretty regularly. Scratch that, I just discovered a 10/19/80 Stankiewicz data set that I've never unpacked.

I have 9/2/80 favorited for some reason, but I don't think I've actually listened to it. I mean, I've listend to Reckoning to death, but, perhaps, consequently have not sought out many of the shows from that run. Digging in to Europe 72 may change my mind on that matter.

I think this show is super well-known, but I'm a big fan of the 8/4/74... sorry, 8/6 Roosevelt Stadium gig. I have had a partial board on cassette from some sort of trade back in the day, but I think the Neil Merin audience reel is the way to go with a big outdoor Wall of Sound gig like that. Some of the conversations are pretty hilarious, but it also does a good job of showing how well the WoS cut through with clarity. Shnid 5914 fwiw... sbefail, but who's burning CDs?!

> RE: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

Thank you for that! That IS weird. They really were on the edge of adhesion, and quite frequently breaking free. The violin and sax timbres and harmonies really add something unusual, and completely foreign to the Dead's sound, but are amazingly on. They may be more on than Mickey! lol. The rhythm section really seems to come close to falling apart on a number of occasions when it's not "supposed" to be space or drums. It sounds like they're struggling to come to terms with the return to more trad material, having not yet figured out how to leave the all-out-madness approach of the progressive repertoire out of those numbers yet. Jerry croons on as if nothing is happening. lol. Fascinating listen, and one I hope to revisit soon. I just noticed that I have it on an old HD from my torrenting days, so that's gonna hafta get Metadata ID'ed up and on the ipod soon so I can get into it in the car. The Dead are the only thing that make a brutal commute "Bear"-able. As you say, brilliantly odd performance.

Rockthing - not being able to post happened to me last year for a bit. No reason why I couldn't, and no reason why I could again shortly after. So for you - just a blip, hopefully.