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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1131
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    Simple must do audio rules

    There are many things that can be done to get your system set up correctly that often can facilitate noticeable performance improvements equal too or greater than any electronics! Best part, they cost little or nothing!

    SPEAKER PHASING: one of the most notorious mistakes that makes a huge noticeable difference and is super easy.
    Make sure your positive amp/receiver terminal is connected to the positive of the speaker, ON BOTH speakers!!
    So positive to positive, negative to negative etc. on both speakers.
    If one is wired opposite of the other, your speakers are out of phase which means their working against each other instead of with each other. Speakers move back and forth, or in and out. If one is wired out of phase that means one speaker is pushing air out while the other speaker is pulling back in, thus effecting bass coupling dramatically! So what you say? You will likely laugh or gasp at how much better your speakers sound (bass enhancement) when you hear them in phase after getting used to them being out!

    SPEAKER HEIGHT: the tweeter should always be placed at ear height. So if using stand speakers, measure so stand places the speakers tweeter exactly at listening position ear height. In conekids case he’s a little higher, which might effect his main position, but since he’s trying to cover 2 zones IR areas it’s a trade off. This is an example of how the situation may dictate slight tweaks, but you should at least start following these rules then tweek.

    SPEAKER PLACEMENT: optimally should form an equilateral triangle: same distance from listening position to each speaker, and same distance between speakers. This can be tweaked depending on several variables.
    Spread them out too far and you lose acoustic coupling and stereo imaging etc., too close together and your sound field collapses and you lose stereo effect etc. This is something you can play with and doesn’t cost anything.
    Obviously you should try to avoid placing objects in front of speakers…
    They should be placed along a wall, but out from the wall. Too close to the wall causes boundary issues that make bass bloated and unnaturally loud etc. Too far out from the wall and they can sound too thin (not enough bass).
    Again, depending on your speakers and other factors you can play with this until you get it right.
    Same with listening position: if you sit too close to any wall, but especially the back wall you’ll again suffer from boundary issues that unnaturally bloat/muddy bass.
    Really you should never put speakers or listening position next to a wall!

    RULE OF THIRDS: look it up. Though using the third dimension is usually not practical, the rule of fifths is and works perhaps better. What’s that you say? Divide your room into fifths. Place the speakers one fifth of the way in from the side walls, leaving three fifths between them. So a 20’ room would have the center of each speaker 4’ from the side walls with 12’ between speaker center points. Then, to form the equilateral triangle, measure 12’ from the center of each speaker to your ear position at your listening sweet spot! Depending on your speakers you may want to toe them in slightly versus having them point directly forward. Again, play around and tweek. Tweeting should be done vary slightly, sometimes an inch or two can make a big difference! Be slow and methodological.

    SUB WOOFERS: I’m not a fan of subs for 2 channel stereo, but they can be a necessity for small bookshelf speakers etc.
    Subs suffer even more from boundary issues described above! Corners are usually the worst place to put a sub woofer!
    Here’s a trick. Place your sub in your listening position and put on some bass active music you know well. Now crawl around on the floor and listen. When you find the place the bass sounds best, put your sub there. This is a cheap down and dirty way to deal with room modes, one of the biggest negative factors in music enjoyment. (Look them up).
    I have a fairly large above average system in a dedicated room, but my room is too narrow for my system so I often have horrible bass bloat issues because of these room modes etc. (funny but it’s mostly only a problem with old Dead when Phil was still playing Alembic lol). Usually I can just roll off a little of my 30 hertz eq nob on my C 40 pre amp. I have a DSP room unit that uses excellent Dirac SW, but haven’t gotten around to it (slacker).
    There are many solutions and sometimes DSP can help (but that won’t do pure analog folks much good) but often the best way to deal with many of these issues is to follow these fairly simple rules and play around with things.

    Oh, lastly. You can help smooth out your room by dampening first reflection points. There’s diffusion and absorption and more. But to keep it simple. We’ll just look at some basics.
    Have someone with a mirror move along the side wall with the mirror. The place where you can see the speaker in the mirror while being seated in the listening position is the first reflection point. Put something (all kinds of things both diy and professional) in that spot along the wall (and ceiling if you want to go the extra distance) that will absorb the sound, so that your hearing the direct sound from the speaker without the phase issues and coloration of the reflected sound off the wall. This is another simple but big improvement.
    You can experiment with placing adsorption in other obvious places like directly back from the speakers on the opposite wall. If you have a big room, perhaps look at second reflection points.

    NOTE: this is not sound proofing! That is a whole other field above and behind this tutorial. Save your money! Putting egg crates, foam, or most of the items for sale on line DO NOT WORK! They will not stop bass from passing through walls and structure! Some of these products may help the sound in the room, but will do nothing for stopping it’s transmission out of the room!

    SPEAKER ISOLATORS: another thing you just have to try. Using the pointy spikes or not for speaker feet. Sometimes they help other times you may want to isolate your speakers from the floor to eliminate too much bass and our help with transference to another room or dwelling.
    Oh, use a heavy carpet on the floor at least between the speakers and listening position if not bigger. Put this is yet another situational thing that you may have to play with.

    Remember folks: the situation is the boss!
    Hope this helps!

    HDCD: if everything is set up and functioning properly you can hear a difference. How noticeable or if noticeable will depend on your equipment, set up and ears. If you have a nice system and actually play discs, you might find some improvements but for many you might not really hear a difference, certainly not a huge difference so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Following the above mentioned rules as much as possible will!

    Oh, ps, the above assumes best case practices. As no room is perfect, and some are just plain awful, and many of us need to live with our significant others, ahem, obviously not everyone will be able to follow all of these.

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    Cnkd - It never occurred to me at the time that I could have asked for a brand new replacement. The replacement from the shop floor is better - the first one used to skip tracks out - with this one it's just the delay in registering which track is playing by about a second that's a bit odd. It plays to perfection apart from that. And really sounds good.

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    Good talk.

    More important to system?

    Listening!!!

    When I bought my system the guy told me, you will not hear what this system does, while doing the dishes, while cleaning, while doing anything else. You have to sit and listen.

    It's true.

    Sound systems and people are a funny thing. I think MOST people listen to the radio and only own a handful of cd's/albums, usually the stuff they listen to in high school or college,,,, after that they stop buying. Kids today seem to live off spot-e-fied and own nothing. I have found the largest genre in people's collection is christmas albums (go figure!)

    I think this group of people are the exception to that.

    What'd ya think?

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    Since there's a CD player discussion going on...

    For people who are listening on HDCD players, what sort of improvement can you hear in the audio? I would think there is some discernable improvement.

    I think I've listened to these shows 10x each. Moved on to others in the time period. Doing Dick's Picks 4 at the moment. I was not hardcore into the Dead when it was released. I imagine people were reacting even more positively into it than even this Dave's Picks, due to the Fillmore legend of the Feb 13 & 14 shows when it came out. Was there a discussion board up at the time to spread the enthusiasm?

    Vguy - good to see the red dice and green felt has returned - it's positively you.

    Nitecat - also digging TC's contributions on these shows. When he was "on" and audible, he really filled out their sound nicely.

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    Wow, Daverock that’s a pricey player to be malfunctioning, and then be replaced by a floor model (which apparently has the same defect). They should have given you a new one from the factory.

    I thought that my new Cambridge Audio CD player was defective but then realized that my Vizio TV remote interferes with it. I had the TV on and was going through the menu adjusting settings but every time I hit a button on the TV remote the CD player would jump tracks or stop playing. Was relieved to find that the CD player was fine.

    Nick, go with what sounds best to you.

    Last night spun the Anthem of the Sun CD that I bought in 1989 (it’s the 1971 remix) and it sounded pretty dull.
    Then put in Steppin’ Out CD3 and started at Truckin’. Sounded better, but not that great.
    DaP43 sounds far superior to those older CD’s.

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    Magic Ingredient

    To me, the best sounding recordings I ever heard were the first ones I got, between 1971 and about 1978. They were records, and what made them great was the magic ingredient. It had nothing to do with what I played them on. If your system captures that-you've got it. For me you can no more improve on that than you can The Grand Canyon

    Nick1234 - having said that, I got a Rega Saturn-R cd player about 3 years ago. And it sounds great - but the first one I bought had to go back to the shop after about 9 months, as some cds wouldn't play-and others jumped to the 3rd or 4th track when I wanted to hear the 1st one. They eventually replaced it with a display model from the shop floor. That is great - although I have noticed that half way through a cd...when the music for track 4 starts, the display unit still shows track 3 for a few seconds - it is slightly behind the music. But the sound quality is top notch. As for the magic ingredient....

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    I joke, but my wife has put up with my idiosyncrasies and such for 30 years, 36 if you count the time we were together before getting married. She deserves a medal, 'cause I am aware that I can be a difficult person to live with sometimes.

    The speakers have a clear pretty clear path to spread the sound around the space and the actual speakers are at the upper two thirds of about a 43 inch high tower, so a bit above the ground, and built to tilt ever so slightly to direct the sound slightly upward and fill the space nicely, so I exaggerate about the impediments, or more accurate to say I just get a little obsessive about the impediments to the sound.

    For tonight's classic '70s movie I went with the Godfather, the first one. I've watched it several times before but it never disappoints, I love that movie every time. A near perfect movie, weirdly gratifying.

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    While we're on the subject can I ask for a bit of advice? I'm in the market for a new system and at the moment I'm thinking of a Naim Supernait 3 amp and B&W 702 S2 speakers. I can audition these at my local hifi dealer. What CD player to accompany these? I'm not going for a turntable at the moment. I have 5 weeks to audition anything at my local shop before I move to the Shetland Islands and there's no hifi dealer there that I'm aware of so it's now or never. I'd sort of like to support Rega as their factory is about a mile from my current house but at these prices I'll go for the best fit for my ears.

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    Also point out....

    ....that at concerts, they raise the stacks on cables for maximum efficiency.

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    Point out to your wife that at concerts they don’t put the speakers on the floor, that would block the sound.

    My kitchen and living room are connected end-to-end, about 12 feet wide, so not a huge area to fill with sound. The speakers in the air project the sound into the kitchen perfectly, with the sweet spot from the front of the couch back to the island in the kitchen. Can also see the TV on the wall from the kitchen.
    It’s just me and my dog, so I can turn the volume up as loud as I want.

    I’ve had this new CD player for 2 weeks and have also been playing non-GD CD’s to see how they sound. The Cambridge Audio dealer that I got it from said that it needed about 100 hours of use to get broken in so I’ve been spinning CD’s instead of using my iBasso music player.
    Once the CD player is broken in I might then run it into the DAC via stereo RCA cables which I did at first, and it boosts the signal by about 20 dB according to having to turn down the volume, but I wanted to break it in sending the signal to the receiver.

    Spinning Rush - Exit Stage Left currently.
    This morning was Floyd - More and then Piper.
    I’m thinking next the Anthem of the Sun CD I bought in 1989, want to see if that sounds good or if it’s a victim of crappy 80’s mastering.

    The iBasso music players come with a burn-in adapter which simulates the electrical resistance of being plugged into a stereo system. You plug that in and put a show on loop and just let it run for about 50 hours, and then it’s supposed to be broken in.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 15:03

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hands down, no question, in person: the final song for Dear Jerry at Jerryweather Post Pavilion back in May 2015. Just about everyone who performed that night came back on stage for that finale.

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 15:31

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So is this why Joni appeared at Newport, to hawk her new box set? Hmmmm…

Favourite Ripple - just a remarkable piece of writing (tip of the cap to Robert Hunter) and playing. A song anyone, even a Non-DH, could love. If you can’t get with Ripple, check your pulse.

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Submitted by Deadicated on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 15:39

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1st Derek connection was in a place so small I could have reached out and tuned his e-string. I thought, "not bad for a young man!" This was Dec. 2000. My next appreciation came in 2016 at NOLA Jazzfest. Sonny Landreth, Gary Clark, Jr. and then TTB. I became very emotional during MIH. Next time I saw them was in Nashville, back in St. Louis, Nashville, and so on, but my youngest daughter and I met Derek and Susan outside the Robbie in Little Rock. It was a great show, but they'd played Austin the night before and, upon listening, I have no idea how they could have played as strongly as they did in Ar.
Anyhow, they treated us to a few from the first few albums - Don't Let Me Slide, Do I Look Worried and Until You Remember - the horns intro on the latter gets me every time (back in NOLA). Then a pair from Crescent and a pair from Ascension. And then seven members left the stage to the two drummers, keys and bass and Derek, for Pasaquan. My Dead center, few rows back, balcony seat was paid for here. Darn, that was something!
The second set brought members from Gabe's and Lobo's band for a good number of the tunes. They did Get Out My Life Woman with 15 people on stage - whoa! - but I think maybe a better choice would have been Down In the Flood. Space Captain left us in a jaunty way as we left my fave venue in St. Louis - 50 years ago our heroes played the same stage. It really is a cool place!!!

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 17:16

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I'm with Billy TK on this!
I'll go one step further and say most of the songs on American Beauty are the definitive versions, with the exception of Truckin' and Sugar Magnolia, my opinion of course. Ripple, Box of Rain and Brokedown Palace are just exactly perfect. My wife doesn't like the Dead, but she really likes these three for their soulfulness and perfect harmonies.

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Submitted by pattymelt on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 20:12

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i wish they would release a 1990 MSG box set

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 22:38

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Hey VGuy, looking forward to seeing you (and Nappy and Hendrixfreak, hopefully) at Red Rocks! Sent a pm, maybe it didn't go through, so I'll just post here: I'll be tailgating with the wife and some friends outside the venue on Saturday, hope we can hook up then? I'll be the tall geeky white dude with long gray hair, probably wearing a Giants cap and an ABB shirt. Hope to see you cats!

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Submitted by bolo24 on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 01:48

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I'll be there. If you're going also, be sure to look me up and say, "Howdy," or maybe hoist a cold one with me.

I've shared so much about my personal life on these pages that I should be easily recognizable among the masses.

Cheers!

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Vguy: DOCTORS ORDERS, NOW!”

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 07:13

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I'm attending TTB on Saturday, 10th row center, with my illustrious cousin, the Great Fredini.

Between bands I'll be on the stairs, audience left, at or near a drink emporium. Nappy has my mobile #. I'll be carrying or wearing a Hamms beer hat. Heh heh heh...

Would enjoy meeting up.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 07:55

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Last 5 are on the periphery of the Grateful Dead:
Mickey Hart - Mystery Box
(A very underrated album)
Bob Weir & Wolf Bros - Live In Colorado

Melvin Seals - Melting Pot

Nicky Hopkins - The Tin Man Was A Dreamer
(Poor health and bad habits took this studio master far too soon)

Robert Hunter - Box of Rain
(I think this is his best album, and I somehow got my hands on the accompanying book by the same name of his master lyrics. Next to maybe Bob Dylan, no one could turn a phrase like Robert Hunter)

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Submitted by Strang3stofplaces on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 08:13

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Looks like this Dave's is released on the same day as the Europe 72 stuff, so if anyone is wondering why they never got a shipping notification, it is probably backed up a little bit. I'm just as impatient as the rest of you, but nothing left to do..

5 months since they offered the lyceum box set 9 months since the dave's subscription was issued IMHO there is no excuse for being this scattered and F'd up. I suggest that the website crashed the other day and they obviously had to recover from a backup since there are all sorts of items that sold out long ago back on the website. Regardless they should be communicating with the people that have purchased these and at the very least the downloads should be working, they are not. Finally they just don't answer because they already have our money. Most retailers will not charge you for anything preorder until they have it and it is ready to go out.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 09:17

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....I made it! Feel better with my feet on the ground. Now time to check out some dispensaries.
I love Hart's Mystery Box.
Btw Google Las Vegas monsoon. Holy shit it was intense.
Lightning struck a light pole not two streets over from my house. Casinos flooded. Rolling thunder indeed.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 09:21

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Hope you guys have a great time and good shows! Welcome to Colorado!
Wish I was going! But for various reasons I cannot : (
Ce la vie, sigh…

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 09:24

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Curious how/if y’all like that live Wolfies?
From what I’ve seen of them, not sure how much I’d spin it, but feel like I should get it since I missed going in my backyard..

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 09:43

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Rolling Thunder, indeed! Did your plane take off in that deluge of rain??

My father used to fly a fair bit for his job, and his rule was always to sit at the back of the plane, and in his wry way, he explained he did that, because he “…never heard of a plane backing in to a mountain…”.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 09:52

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Both sets have arrived on the day of issue. Of course, as they aren’t limited sets I didn’t order them from dead.net. No news on DaP #43 yet. I hope to get a chance to play the new arrivals over the next few days and compare them to previous versions.

I should get the Joni ‘Asylum albums’ box and ‘Time Fades Away’ on the same day late in September as the NY release date has slipped back from mid-August.

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Submitted by estimated-eyes on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 10:25

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Have fun at Red Rocks all of you. That show the other night in Aurora still has me abuzz-- especially regarding the Pasaquan. Easily the highlight of the show for me. When I think about that amazing jam, I think that listening to Derek Trucks play so beautifully on a track like that with the smaller band would be the akin to the 2022 version of seeing Jerry blazing a great 'Beautiful Jam' or 'Mind Left Body Jam' during a fall 1972 Dark Star-- but for 15 to 20 minutes. Or Duane Allman on Mountain Jam. Just a gorgeous theme to play around with. I hope they keep it in the repertoire for the long haul.

As Spacebrother said, TTB may hold Trucks back a bit from exploring fully-- Pasaquan lets him loose. Do not go for a beer or to the bathroom when everyone leaves the stage but DT, drummers, keys and bass. A great jam is forthcoming.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 11:00

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My two favorite bands in the world, on the same bill? Yes, we will enjoy.

As for leaving our seats while Derek is on stage: are you mad? a) we're professionals, b) what the !@#$%&*^%???

I too caught Derek many times with his DTB, yes, in tiny places like the Gothic Theater from the lip of the stage, and no, I don't hear the TTB holding him back, but I've only seen TTB 8-9 times, once with 800 people, otherwise nearly every Rocks show they played. (Not to mention ~10 ABB shows with Derek.) So maybe I'm clueless...

Oro-man: sorry you won't make it this weekend. Plan on another such show and we'll meet up. My niece's birthday is Saturday and I had to apologize for missing her dinner because "Tedeschi-Trucks Band is at Red Rocks." I got a totally blank look, but was forgiven because I made it sound like Jesus was back in town......

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 11:11

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I saw on another forum that 2 people randomly received DaP43 today without any notifications. Look in your mailboxes !!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 11:14

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'Nuff said.
Maybe I can have that dream I had again and see you there.
Life gets in the way when you least expect it.
My 65th tomorrow so I got that goin' for me.
Never expected to get this far!
Cheers Red Rockers!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 11:35

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....no. It had cleared out by this morning.
I intentionally went to bed early so I could get a few more hours of sleep to be at the airport by 4:30. Monsoon woke me up, so those plans were dashed. I'm a little tired, but I'll make it through. Couple hour nap at the hotel upcoming.
Edit. Holy Potholes Batman! Denver roads need some work.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 12:48

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Maybe by some cosmic recompense for having to wade through pages and pages of international shipping gripes over on the MSG box set page, some forces saw fit to drop #17,103/25,000 at my door in Uptown, Chicago.

Can't wait to dig into these shows. The setlist is pretty cut up between the shows, but that's no problem for the contemporary listener. The material is all here, plus a few extra goodies - a couple of pics I haven't seen before that are pretty good. Who expected Abe Lincoln to make his Dave's Picks debut in the dog days of 2022? Enjoy this one when you get it, and someone tap me on the shoulder when its safe to pick my head up over in that MSG slag heap.

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Submitted by jjc on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 13:15

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no tracking emails random #43 showing up. On 7-20 the dead site was fubar for about an hour or more I suspect they got hacked and are not disclosing that.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 13:48

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Rhino has a new remaster of "Waiting For Columbus" out today, which includes complete copies of the three concerts that the original release was culled from! Yay, Rhino!

Be kind, rewind.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 14:09

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George Clinton and P-Funk at the zoo's meadow.

GGRREEAATT SSHHOOWW

if TTB is half as lively, I am sure I will like them.

It is a shame that the people that are now running the show, no longer care about the people that are paying them! I thought this CD was due out today! It hasn't shipped yet and they are not talking! That is no way to treat the people that are the bills! When I preorder something, I expect to receive it on the day it comes out, like we use to! Now, they can't even be bothered to let you know what is going on. If you continue to treat your long term supporters this way, we will stop!

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Submitted by larryguate on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 16:42

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Got mine today with no email at all! Good stuff!

Hundreds of dead net regulars busted at Red Rocks. Dead net is not sure if it can continue and/or if it makes to keep maintain the site as it's user base is currently in locked up.

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Oh wait.. weed is legal in Co. Nevermind.. as you were.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 20:14

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Not gonna spill the beans because I'm too lazy to regurgitate the info. But this is gonna be one sweet mutha, at least according to the variety and two Dark Stars I see. Plus, my man Pigpen has I think six classics in the mix. Right there, I'm a freakin' cheerleader.

Okay, gents, gotta get my beauty rest before tomorrow night's rilly big shew at RR....

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Submitted by PatagonianFox on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 02:45

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This may very well be the worst Grateful Dead cover of all time.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 08:17

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(Head pops up!) Did you say six - Six!! - Pigpen classics?? Do tell.

And yea, the cover art on DaP 43 is ho hum, but classic cover art seems to be a dying art. The “worst” Dead cover art!? That might be a stretch, as I think “Ready or Not” holds that notoriety. Barf making.

Two of my all time favourite cover arts were the first “It’s A Beautiful Day” album, and Quicksilver’s “Happy Trails”. Like Max Parrish artwork, dreamlike, from another time.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 08:25

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Yes but still illegal out in public and in city parks, which Red Rocks used to be a Denver park system property. Not sure if that's still true. But that said you had to be trying pretty hard to get busted there unless you were gatecrashing at the Jethro Tull show that ended rock at The Rocks amidst teargas. Always a safe haven for heads. Be careful in the parking lots though.
On Tommy Two Tone: My buddy got punked by coworkers who left him a message to call "Janny" at 867-5309 back when that was a hit. He figured it out when he reread the message to "Tommy" when he goes by Tom. There was no answer. Great tune though! One hit wonder?
Cheers and give us a review when you've come back to earth Vguy.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 08:55

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Wait, I thought weed was legal here? WTF, Colorado?

But checking the website, marijuana is on the list of "prohibited items" at Red Rocks? (My wife keeps going around going "red rooocks red roooocks" like "redrum" in The Shining, Which is cracking me up but also kind of creeping me out. I need to get her to stop.) I'm thinking we'll chance it anyway. I think we'll be in the Upper South parking lot before, if anybody wants to stop by, Row 52 (yeah, I know, wish it was closer) center at the show.

Surprised people are already worried about shipping for the new DaP. Didn't it just get released yesterday? Let's be realistic. Generally my DaPs arrive 7-10 days after the release date. (And I live in Cali, which seems like would be faster shipping, it never is.) Relax, my friends. It'll get there.

Wonder why they never posted a track list for this one? I suppose we all know pretty much what a track list from this period is going to look like, but still. If anybody who knows can post it here, that'd be appreciated.

OK. I gotta get some coffee, some ice, beer, sandwhichs, get on over there.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 09:30

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My buddy sent me this in an email today,,, thought some might enjoy reading it....

THE LAST WALTZ BLUES JAM
by Bob Margolin
The more blues-driven musicians commandeered the instruments at the jam, and played some old favorite songs together, mostly Robert Johnson’s. This sounds like a common scene at open-mic jams at blues clubs, where more experienced blues players sometimes conspire to sit in together. It happened at about 7 am, the morning after The Band’s Last Waltz concert on Thanksgiving, 1976. The Band had hired the entire Miyako Hotel in San Francisco to accommodate their guests. The banquet room which had been used for rehearsal before the show was now the party room, and musicians had been jamming in random combinations since after the concert, many hours before. But unlike your local blues jam, every blues player that morning was a Rock Star.
Except me. I was there with Muddy Waters. who was invited to perform two songs at The Last Waltz. Muddy had recorded his Grammy-winning “Woodstock Album” the year before with Levon Helm and Garth Hudson from The Band, but The Band itself was an unknown quantity to him. He brought Pinetop Perkins and me from his own band to accompany him along with The Band and Paul Butterfield on harp, so that he would have something familiar to play with. Muddy also felt I was good at explaining what he wanted onstage to musicians he hadn’t worked with, though 25 years later, I still find myself wishing I knew more about what Muddy wanted.
Muddy, Pinetop, and I checked into the hotel the day before the show and went to the restaurant. I saw a few familiar faces from the Rock World, and some came over to say hello and pay respects to Muddy.
That night, Pinetop, Muddy, and I were scheduled to rehearse our songs for the show. I didn’t realize that some of those blues-oriented rock stars must have been in the room to watch Muddy.
The next night, at the concert, Muddy, Pinetop, and I waited backstage to perform. Pinetop told me he heard one of The Beatles was there, not realizing that Ringo was sitting right next to him. Born in 1913, Pinetop knew as much about The Beatles as I know about The Backstreet Boys. Joni Mitchell, looking impossibly beautiful, introduced herself to Muddy. He didn’t know who she was, and just saw her as a young pretty woman. He flirted but she didn’t respond.
I’m told that there was a backstage cocaine room, with a glass table and a “sniff-sniff” tape playing, but I never saw it. I did, however, see through Rolling Stone Ron Wood’s nearly-transparent prominent proboscis in profile. In the “green room,” Neil Young passed me a joint, smiling, “We’re all old hippies here.” Though I was 27, something about “old hippies” resonated with me for the future. Young was older than me by a few years and even had a couple of gray hairs then, but I remember thinking that nobody in that room was old yet except for Muddy and Pinetop. Now, I’m certainly an old hippie, though Pinetop, going strong at 88, is neither. As for Neil Young, film of his performance revealed a white rock up his nose, which was edited out frame-by-frame for the movie.
California Governor Jerry Brown popped in and invited Bob Dylan to get together with him sometime. Dylan, relaxed and outgoing until The Governor arrived, instantly turned sullen and distracted, barely nodding without looking at Brown. The uncomfortable Governor soon left, and Dylan laughed just before he was out of earshot and reverted to his friendlier mode. Something is happening here, but I don’t know what it is.
When it was our turn to play, Muddy and Pinetop sang the light, swinging “Caledonia” as they had for “The Woodstock Album.” In hindsight, I think Muddy could have presented himself more strongly with a deep slow blues like “Long Distance Call” which would feature his almighty slide guitar. But nobody could argue with his second song choice — “Mannish Boy” was always a show-stopper. It was preserved in full in The Last Waltz movie, which was released in ‘78. Harp player tip: Muddy loved the way Butterfield played on that song, setting up a warble that “holds my voice up” rather than just playing the song’s signature lick.
Fatefully, only one camera was operating during our song, zooming on Muddy, but not changing angle. Standing close to Muddy, I was in every frame. Pinetop, at the piano way off to the side, unfortunately was never seen in the film. But as Muddy hollers “I’m a MAN” and we shout “Yeah” to answer, as we always did in that song, you can hear Pinetop also yelling, “Wahoo!” — which is a line from a politically incorrect joke that Pine had heard on the road, and was fond of telling over and over in 1976.
Now, whenever The Last Waltz movie is shown on TV, a few people at my gigs tell me, “I saw you on TV!” and how I looked — happy or mad or scared or bored. I think they just project how they would feel. I was simply concentrating on playing, and particularly enjoying Muddy’s powerful shouting, Butterfield’s warbling-tension harp, Levon’s deep groove, and Robbie Robertson’s fiery guitar fills.
Eric Clapton followed us, and as he began his first solo, his guitar strap unfastened, and he nearly dropped his Stratocaster. In the movie, his lips distinctly mouth, “Fuck!” and as he refastens the strap, Robbie picks up the solo and runs away with it.
Muddy and Pinetop went right to their rooms after our set, but I went down to jam back at the hotel after the concert. This is where I realized that some of those blues-oriented rock stars had watched me rehearsing with Muddy and been impressed that I was playing Old School Chicago Blues in his road band and helping to arrange the songs for our performance. I also had a very cool blues guitar with me — my late-’50s Gibson ES-150 arch-top, which I also cradle on the cover of my latest album, “Hold Me To It.” Bob Dylan approached me and said he hoped we’d get to jam together. Then he disappeared. I did play “Hideaway” and some slow blues with Eric Clapton, whom I met that night. Dr. John sat at the piano for hours, and played along with everyone. My piano-playin’ sister Sherry, who lived nearby and was hanging out, sat near him, eyes glued to his funky fingers.
Around dawn, I put my old guitar back in its case, and started to leave. Bob Dylan caught me in the hall and said, “I thought we were going to jam…” I decided to stay awake a little longer. We had Dr. John on piano, Ron Wood on bass, Levon on drums, Butterfield on harp, and Clapton, Dylan, and myself playing guitars. There were no vocal microphones, and we all played softly enough to hear Dylan sing “Kind Hearted Woman” and a few other well-known blues songs. His trademark vocal eccentricities sounded outlandish in the blues, but he did make them his own. Generally, the blues we played that morning were not remarkable, but I was honored to be jamming with these fine musicians, and I realize that they belong to the same “club” as you do — deep blues lovers.
Recently, I read Levon Helm’s inside story of The Last Waltz in his autobiography, “This Wheel’s On Fire” (recommended!). I was shocked to find that because of time and budget constraints and Band politics, Muddy was nearly bumped from the show. Levon fought bitterly behind the scenes and prevailed to not only keep Muddy in but to indulge him with me and Pinetop too. We were treated as honored guests at The Last Waltz and I enjoyed the once-in-a-lifetime jam afterwards, but Levon never told us about making a stand for us. He just made us welcome. Ultimately, this gracious, classy, and tough gentleman was responsible for my good time there.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 10:00

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....I'll try. Let me get the bad out of the way. Lots and lots of stairs.
Now for the good. One of the best food courts I've seen. They serve basically everything. And if you are near the top like I was, the constant smell of food pours down over you.
If there was a police presence, they must be undercover, because I didn't see any.
The sound there is top shelf. Wow. Towards the end of the show, the wind picked up and started bouncing the sound around the huge rocks and sounded even more amazing! (I was under the influence of psilocybin, so I may be compromised regarding that, but I don't think so).
Getting around is easy. Getting in and out was easy. This place has it all.
Now TTB. I literally cried a couple of times during the show. They are tight AF and brought it hard for 2+ hrs. When Susan really starts preaching, you better shut up and listen because she's got something to tell you. Members of Los Lobos came on and sat in for a couple of songs and that's some dream come true shit. At least to me.
I have GA tix so a shout out to my neighbors Jessica and Ross and Susan and Alan for waving me over when I reached upper GA and yelled out if anyone had room by them for one person. You people were the best.
I walked back to my car and drove to my hotel in stunned disbelief and didn't say a word.
Didn't see anyone being busted for anything and pot smoke was definitely evident in the air. Crowd was chill. How can you not be at a place like that!!!
I regret taking so long to finally visit the hollowed ground that is RR, but better late than never.
You all have a great Saturday.
I'll be wearing my Make America Grateful Again tee and my American Beauty brown bolt/roses cap tonight btw. Tall white dude with a white beard and glasses with a constant smile on my face. Can't miss me lol!

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Submitted by That Mike on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 10:22

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VGuy - RR sounds amazing, and I’ll bet the band was fantastic! I just received Part 3 - The Fall yesterday, so after I finish this interminable Honey Do List, I’ll break it out. Glad you enjoyed the show.

Dennis - Enjoyed reading the Last Waltz story, my favourite concert movie. When it was released in 1978, I knew I had to see the film, as I saw The Band on that, their last tour. Considering they got their start in Toronto, I thought it shitty the film got only limited release here at the time, but since I was in university then, I saw it repeatedly, even matinees, at a theatre no longer standing that was a block from where the Band (nee The Hawks) used to play at a long defunct club called Le Coq D’Or back in the early 60s with Ronnie Hawkins, and where Dylan came to hear them play. The rest was history. Great story, and Muddy’s performance was a highlight.

to chill while I get new tires.

I give my name

I sit down 10 feet away to wait and play the electronic crack game (phone ya know)

10 seconds later some dude in line tells me my drink is ready

Barista says she called my name

She must have whispered it

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:00

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I'll hold or wear my Hamms beer hat, blue short sleeve shirt with very thin vertical stripes, gray pants, sandals, Fu Manchu with beard, short dirty blond/gray hair, goofy grin...

I'm having trouble with my ankle, so I'm not climbing to the top in search of you, but maybe halfway between my Row 10 and your GA section up top. I told Nappyrags I'd be on the outside stairs, Row 10, between bands -- especially after Gabe Dixon but well before Los Lobos hits the stage.

Try to come down for a brief hang. I'll have treats for ya! If I can make 2023 and 2024 shows, I'll have put in 50 years at the Rocks. Fortunately, not making little ones out of big ones, if you know your prison lore....

HF

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:00

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...but #23818 has arrived in sunny Southern California. Now if only that Little Feat box from Rhino would get its butt over here.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:37

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No notice, just a delivery a few minutes ago.

I've told this to you all a million times, but a group in the Twin Cities has been recreating The Last Waltz on stage once per year for about 15 years. It's a very cool event.

Be kind, rewind.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:54

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Me likey. Her wrists are both rotated so one cannot see her thumbs. So, anatomically correct methinks. A humanoid, too. Pairs well with a skeleton. LOW 17K's here. Wish I could say the same about my 04 Honda :-)

Worst cover. hmmm I won't go there...

Play Dead all! Happy weekend!

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