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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #281
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    I was concerned, glad to hear you are well. Southwest of you I'm concerned, I still have friends in central florida, my mother lives down there (93 yrs old) but also dodged the main bullet, waiting for others to contact me. Mini vay kay play dead

  • #282
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    thanks, Doc

    Good to hear you and yours safe and sound. Thoughts go out to FL friends (so far, all good) and all who were so near the path. Almost at 1972 here, streaming the early December 1971 run at mini-MSG Felt Forum. A gloriously bright sunny Vermont day, fall foliage coming on, first frost tonight. Will pull the last peppers, tomatoes and basil out now.

  • #283
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    Love it! The Ess Amt-4 is a two-way with the slightly smaller Heil Air Motion Transformer and a 10" woofer rated 20W to 250W. They are 4 ohm, 45hz-24Khz, with the x-over at 1000hz, and called the sleeper in their killer line up from BITD. The best thing they have going is that Amt which delivers clear beautiful highs and solid mids in all directions from an open top design. Easy placement that way too. Look up their big boys, ESS Amt-1s and their Towers (I forget the number), well respected and still fetch four figure prices as parts units which tells you a lot. The Amt itself is indestructible and lifetime warranted. Mine had a solid pure pulp cone on that 10" which I have had to replace with a set of Misco, made in Minneapolis, Oaktron 10" from their Heritage line made to replace the similar stuff in all the brands from BITD. Same pure pulp cone and big voice coils and magnets but in a stamped steel frame just like the originals. Spec at 16-4000hz and 92 db efficiency.
    Got the ESSs cheap when almost new in 1977 from a college roomy who couldn't manage to get them back home to Cincy without a car. But then when the cat put a hole in one of the woofers in the 90s I replaced the originals with what I thought would be an upgrade but I screwed up. Bought subs that were 8-ohms by Pyramid, Super Pro Super Blue, made by Eminence in US ( Kentucky?) famous for their instrument speakers for bass and guitar. Great deal from a car audio shop going out of business and they took my torn ones in trade as well. As you know, that 8-ohm mistake changed the x-over to 2000hz and I traded off some midrange for killer, punchy bottom end which I thought at the time was good. Found out about five years ago that I screwed up and got the Miscos for about what I sold the now valuable subs for. Fit like a glove which no one who tried that swap with the only available 10" direct from ESS could do as all they sold was the big boy 10" from other higher models with a cast aluminum frame that required sawing into your cabinets just to make it fit. Found that out on Audio Karma luckily from others trying to do the same replacement on their various ESS. A couple of those guys used Dayton woofers to good effect but I went with Misco as their specs were a perfect match to original, hence original sound. Was not going to try to mess with upgrading as I might have had to upgrade the x-over too and taking a saw to the cabinets was out of the question. SO, long story longer, I got my midrange back and Phil bombs sound better than ever! Not bad for a novice hack job since I have zero skills with electricity or carpentry. Not even interested in a sub really. Pretty small living room and I want to keep peace in the neighborhood. Anytime you upgrade there is a leap of faith that the money you're spending will get the result you're after so I got lucky in all this I'd say. Some with a little more dinero are switching stuff all the time but you don't know unless you go. I certainly was OK with all my 70s stuff but you get used to your sound and don't realize how much better it can be until you go there. Thanks Oro.
    Cheers

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    I wish your last statement was true - but I suspect that the selfish behaviour of the powerful will have long lasting negative consequences for years to come.

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    Most anyplace one lives is essentially dangerous......

    For all those who asked, or were concerned...............

    The Gillespie household is doing fine. So far, we've only lost power for about 45 minutes, but it's back on now. We've only caught the "tropical storm" part of Ian, but I have heard that potentially, this may be the deadliest hurricane to ever hit Florida. We now live in Green Cove Springs, about 30 miles southeast of Jax, safely away from the beach, the St John's River, and Black Creek. We're in a newish house, on high ground, have lots of food and water, and have an excellent generator. The St Augustine area is getting badly flooded........

    The strongest hurricane to ever hit Florida was the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, sustained winds of 180+ mph when it hit. There is a lovely--and moving----monument in the Keys to the hundreds who lost their lives in that storm. I've visited that site many many times while I lived down there. The deadliest? Probably the same hurricane, the exact toll is unknown, but probably in the hundreds.......

    For Matthew, we evacuated. For Irma, we hunkered down and rode out the storm. For a hurricane, either get out early, or be prepared to ride it out. I reassured my wife, "No matter what comes, we'll ride it out together".

    Out of an abundance of caution, my office is closed today and tomorrow, and I don't work this weekend. A "mini-vacation" of sorts. Now that the power is back, I'm actually busy spreading 1972 Lyceum shows around. Some things never change, hurricane be damned!!

    Here we dodged a bullet, yet I pray for those in harm's way on the Gulf coast...............

    Stay safe, and rock on,

    Doc
    What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal......

  • #286
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    Well said 1stshow

    Don’t think I’ve heard of the ESS Amt 4s, looked them up, interesting, do you use a sub with them?
    And you refreshed my memory about adcom so I looked into that brand a little too.
    Interesting video comparing Adcom and NAD to contemporary Schiit audio.

    Almost bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC before I got my Meitner. For like 22-23 hundred bucks they sound as good as many DACs costing many thousands more! Schiit makes simple but value friendly great sounding products, or at least the ones I’ve heard.
    But yeah, NAD and Adcom, same idea, BITD budget friendly but great sounding gear. Sounds like a sweet little system!

    Hybrid stuff. I’ve heard some sweet sounding hybrid stuff at audio shows.
    Of course Jer Bear had a hybrid system utilizing a Fender Twin Tube amp for his pre and a SS MC2300 power amp and we all know how great that sounded and perhaps why he never changed his backend!
    I would say if your going to try hybrid go tube pre and SS power…
    My best recollection was with my buddy who started YFS and built my custom Ref 3 server: had an amazing sounding system one year at RMAF using YFS server, Meitner DAC, Custom made fully analog pre (tube?) biamped with one of the best sounding MC 275 tube amps on the highs, and a 200 per McIntosh solid state amp on the lows (don’t recall the model), powering some Von Schweikert audio stand speakers. I thought the sound and imaging of this system, even in the shitty little hotel room sounded as good or better than much bigger and expensive systems there that year.
    Just can’t describe what a big clean sound this relatively small system produced! Of course for the price of the system it should! Lol.

    I think it’s like everything else: trial and error and if it’s done right it can be a plus!
    I’ve never had tube stereo gear, but I’ve heard some great stuff, but that particular MC 275 that my buddies dad (some kind of engineer/scientist) restored and modified, is perhaps the best tube amp I’ve ever had the pleasure to hear. His dad is the one who built the custom line stage too. Ya know, let’s design and build a one of a kind killer audiophile unit just for something to do lol. They build their own bike frames too!
    So to me it’s like all this stuff, tube versus SS, analog versus digital etc, there’s not just one thing that’s best or better, if it’s done right, and you get the right synergy for your room etc, I’ve heard systems of all kinds that were amazing!

    Just a thought, yeah tube amps can be great for instruments for musical creation when you want that slightly overdriven sound (think Dead 72 before using Mac amps on the instruments), but for sound reproduction they can get tubby or muddy with perhaps too much distortion. Some people like that as it can give a richer, or warmer sound, I’m with you 1stshow, I prefer a more neutral sound, though some think that’s too dry etc?

    In the end, it just comes down to what’s best for you!

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    For a few years, I was deeply into audio: or as deeply as my meager budget would allow, anyway. It started when I realized I needed a tube amplifier. This was because I realized that I would never in a million years use a transistor amp for my guitar, so why would I use one for my home listening?

    But of course tube amps and preamps are pretty pricey, so I had to go the DIY route: I built a preamp from a kit (Bottlehead) and bought an old ST-70 power amp, and I spent a lot of time tweaking them with various upgrades. They sounded pretty good, eventually. And I needed some efficient speakers, so I paired them with some Klipsch Heresys that I got off craigslist (for $100!).

    What happened next is so typical of me it's embarrassing: the ST-70 worked great for about 10 years and then just cut out one day. By this time, I had forgotten all the various rewirings and component upgrades etc I had done, and lost all my paperwork. So I had no idea how to troubleshoot it! Couldn't even find my volt meter! I decided to just sell the ST-70 for a couple hundred, get myself a used Sansui Au-417 (since they're reputed to have a tube-like sound, also a great phono stage), put all new caps in there, and call it day. So after all that I'm back to transistors. Sounds pretty good, though.

    Somewhat bemused to read the travails of my fellow heads who ordered the MSG set via Rhino and are now working through the delays and shipping mishaps. I didn't get the box set (early '80s are just not my era) but I went for the 3 CD breakout. Ordered it from Bezos and received on the day it was released. What a concept! I'm glad to have it, it's a good performance, but disappointed in the mix. It's all Jerry and Brent, Bob's guitar is completely (and I mean completely) inaudible, Phil and the drummers much too low. But you can hear Jerry great, and it's a high energy show so probably most people will really dig it. Still, I hope the rest of the box is better, for everybody's sake.

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    John Coltrane: Coltrane
    GOGD: Dick's Picks 36 (yow!!!)
    Joe Henderson: Mode for Joe
    Zappa: Hot Rats
    Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

  • #288
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    I went to separates during covid after doing some research and hearing from a collector of Heil Amt speakers that I wasn't hearing all my ESS Amt-4 floor standing speakers could do. Got an Adcom dual mono amp with 100W and 180 damping factor and was blown away like the Maxell guy. Got the other Adcom separates one at a time and noticed improvement each time. The pre-amp was better than using my old integrated amp as a pre and the digital tuner was way better than the old one. All are late 80s MOSFET stuff and fully restored they are still way cheaper than either vintage premier like Oro's McIntosh or 10x cheaper than modern audiophile. Just got to find a reliable restorer. They were the bargain audiophile brand BITD and made in USA. Very neutral coloring which some don't like but it's better to hear it exactly as it was made and play with the tone controls if you want different. Diminishing returns to go higher but I would have if the money was there. All in I spent maybe $700 and it sounds good to me. The bonus was I got a bedroom system from the old stuff, just have to add some speakers.

    Ten days to get my 3 CD MSG from CA to CO doesn't sound very innovative. Mail Innovations, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, adds almost 500 more miles to the route that would have gotten to me two to three days earlier had UPS shortcut Mail Innovations and delivered it straight from the handoff point only 60 miles away. Bad for the customer and bad for the planet. Should be here tomorrow. Oh well, as Neil says, "don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning".
    Cheers

    Edit: I find it interesting that folks are going back to valves, or tubes, especially in the pre-amp. I was advised to go with a hybrid solid state/tube pre-amp but stick with a solid state amp to get the benefit of the "warm" tube sound without the big bucks of the tube amp. But the hybrids were beyond my budget even used/restored as they are a newer thing. Wish my family had kept my Dad's old home built Heathkit tube amp. Would love to have heard that again.

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    Thanks Oro, a wealth of helpful information. AJS, there with you, floor standing wise, found a pair of 1986 Klipsch Cornwall IIs, 3 foot tall, 2 foot wide, 16" deep. Horn loaded tweeters and mid range, 15" woofers. They sound incredible for 35 year olds. Was driving them with an Onkyo receiver, one of the high end spec models for a long time and was happy. Eventually hooked up a power amp/pre amp combo and was surprised how much improvement... like Oro said. The power supply on the amp is huge, output rated at 150 watts per channel so a very efficient speaker like Klipsch has no stress, there is so much headroom. The damping factor as well important, a measure of how effectively (tightly) the amp controls bass response. When damping factor number is large, bass is well defined with detail and timbre, not boomy muddy. Whatever sub anyone might be using, not much useful response below 18-20Hz, as it's exponentially demanding to get lower, subsonic. The octobass and piano lowest notes are A0, about 27hz, Pipe organ low note is C0, 16 Hz. Except there's this thing called a rotary woofer that can go down to single Hz numbers at hideous expense, IMAX theater only? I would love to see and buy a 1968 NW tour box. Meanwhile, hoping Forensic Doc will let us know how it goes, we know he's in the Jacksonville area.

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    Mr Ones - great band, Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets. I saw them just before covid, and was supposed to be going again in 2020-but... That dvd/blu ray disc of them live is worth getting, too.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:58

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No notice,, just in the box today. I think the number was 3786.

Rip will have to wait until tomorrow,,, heading to work.

The meth-heads await me.

oh,,, where is the little feat shit?

Oh and my 24 lp's???

Bastards!!!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 14:28

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It's better than "Go To Heaven".

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 15:40

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Jerry in a White suit!
Hell Jerry in any suite ; )

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 16:13

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There's a good representation of 76, true
One more, please, Dave
7 18 76

7 18 76

7 18 76

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Submitted by Cloud Hands on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 17:46

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#12158 landed!
Sounds fantastic!
Not the worst cover ever! I've seen worse!
Who cares about the cover!
Love the teeny-weeny note about 12/26 Cold Rain & Snow being snipped! Why? "It will appear on a future volume"!
That means another 1969 special down the line!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 18:28

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#725

After a few sub par years, Dave has redeemed himself.

Rare songs. Fantastic recording. Outstanding stuff. The acoustic songs from 12/26 are worth the price alone. For some reason that part of the show reminds me of the scene when the Blues Brothers played Bob’s Country Bunker and had to revert to some country and western songs to get the crowd onboard.

Enjoy.

One of the main reasons I check in here is to hear words written like the words you just wrote. Gives me hope.

In the same breath.. PFox is my new buzz crush villain. try decaf, indica instead of sativa.. whatever it is you are doing try something that gives a more positive view. Always look on the bright side of life. whew whew.. whew whew whew ah whew.

Looking forward to getting #43 this week.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 21:06

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I listened to that lp today

I like a lot of it
Alabama G
Althea
FLAS
Antwerp's Placebo
DEMI

All good the whole thing

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Submitted by deadmike on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 02:00

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For shipping info.

Really do hope I will get this volume since being a subscriber ... but this is the first time I haven't recieved any shipping info before other people have already got their copy of the actual record ...

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Submitted by TJPD2 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 04:54

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Received mine yesterday, no shipping notice.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 05:09

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The order status for my orders does not show that #43 has shipped yet.
Certainly I have not received a shipping mail yet.

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Submitted by outpost on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 05:30

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Usually get a shipping notice, but nothing so far. Looking at some of the other posts it seems as though they are receiving copies without notices also, so I'm hoping this will be the case with mine, but they don't make things easy !
It's even more annoying as this is a '69 release, and really looking forward to an upgrade to my SBDs.
Sent an email to CS for an update.
**** UPDATE ***** Received a Shipping Notice today, so that's a positive bit of news !

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 06:59

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Interesting conversations here lately. Based on some entries, I cautiously but hopefully opened my mailbox yesterday, and…nothing!!
I’m usually one of the last to receive, so not bothered at all. With so many people gushing about TTB, I loved Derek Trucks Band, but TTB for some reason, just doesn’t blow my skirt up.
Saw Phish last night, and tonight also. Just good to see/hear ANY live music.
Re:PFox. I don’t recall him EVER having a positive word to say about anything, just a troll, happy to keep trolling. His must be a sad, sorry existence.
Very excited to wait for my D43, see a second good show tonight, and keep on keeping on.

Music is the Best!!

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 07:53

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Are you gonna rip in as cd order or put in show order?

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Met both these fine gentlemen last night at the Rocks, with a monumental Los Lobos set that combined that band with Derek and Susan and various TTB members sitting in. The hybrid band really took it out there and, for my money, jammed as hard as any band since the good old GD of the '70s. Of possible interest here, during TTB's set Susan sang Angel from Montgomery and wove in a verse from Sugaree.

I lucked into 10th row center seats and Vguy texted me he's in row 22, seat 97, so before Los Lobos hits the stage I head up to find him. As I approach row 22 I see a guy making his way across row 22 fist bumping every single person in that row, including some who initially didn't look up, but this guy waits til they do, then fist bumps them and about 20 others. This guy makes it to the end of the row as I'm closing in and spryly moves on to the outer stairs as I yell "Vguy"! No reaction. I pursue. He's got the gray beard, the Make America Grateful Again t-shirt, etc. Well, it IS Vguy and we have a good chuckle on the stairs and fire up a fatty. Much yukking about just about everything.

Between Los Lobos and TTB I make my way up to row 28, seat 1, and have a good chat with our man Nappyrags and his buddy. When I told him about my encounter with serial fist-bumping Vguy, he broke into a big smile. I departed with, "Try to behave!" and got a baleful look. So I threw in, "Don't do anything I wouldn't do!" and the big smiles came out again.

And I met up with a half-dozen pals of old as well as a few Red Rocks friends who I see every year at shows up there, and innumerable hotties of every age, shape, size, color. Oh yeah. (I go for the music, but I return for the hotties....)

Yes to what someone posted earlier: that being out with folks at live music is just what the doctor ordered. We (my cousin and I) ate a mushroom, a gummy, had a little tequila and beer and a doobie and all was well.

When I got home, there were my two copies of DaP 43 in the mailbox, just waitin' for me.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 08:41

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I like when I read about board people hooking up. Connections made can last a lifetime. Glad all had fun, the Rocks are a special place.

On the rip front,,, went with two folders, one for each show in order. Shame about the Cold Rain that was trimmed for space (I assume). I think we'll see it come down the pike someday. I may fill in space with the board copy I have, will see how the two cuts blend.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 08:50

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Nice nod to Pink Floyd, Mr. Ones, Wot's...uh the Deal indeed. Always dug Obscured by Clouds, cool album.

No Dap 43 yet, no shipping notice, no worries. No ripping for me, I'm just a simple luddite who will put the disc in the tray and push play.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 08:55

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listening to Dark Star at the Family Dog

I Swear at 22 minute mark (+-),,, they were gonna go into Tighten Up (by Archie Bell).

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Submitted by frosted on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 09:07

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Got my DaP 43 from the mailbox about 10 minutes before heading out on a road trip yesterday. No mailing notice received, just a welcome surprise in the mailbox. Listened to side 1 on the road, getting ready for a morning excursion where side 2 gets spun. Lovin' it. This is my Dead.

Right now, listening to 5/14/70 on youtube, with one of the hottest LoveLights I've heard. Jerry smokes on it right out of the gate.

Gotta do the full run of unreleased uploaded 1970 shows from the archive. Have gone at many of them already, but damn, what fire and energy they have.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 09:25

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In the seaside chat Dave said that it will be on a future DaP.

Once I get my DaP43 I will listen to all the CD’s to confirm that they are not defective, and will then import to computer and arrange the songs by show and order. When the missing Cold Rain arrives I will add that.

Hoping to find DaP43 in the mailbox tomorrow even though I’ve not received a shipping notice. Monday after release day has been pretty standard for me the last several DaP’s even though I would get a shipping notice about 10 days earlier.

Dix8 5/2/70 had its CR&S severed, too.

Hmmm.

A future Daves, huh?

C'est la vie

Be kind daily, my fellow Deadheads.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 10:41

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It was included in the vinyl version of Dicks 8. For what it's worth. I'm not bothered these days if they miss a song out for whatever reason. It's not as though they will omit anything vital. We have all heard a vast quantity of Cold Rain and Snow's and if you haven't heard the one played at 5/2/70 you are missing...absolutely nothing.
I can't see much point in including an omitted song in a future release either. Probably stick out like a sore thumb. I suppose if you rip them you can make up a full show...but Like Charlie3.. I don't rip cds very often.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 10:45

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Yes Dennis, I know I've heard one in a jam before. Maybe the Mammoth Garden show Denver April 1970? All we need now is those horns in the bridge.
Cheers

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 11:08

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....checking out some local brews, fist bumping everyone I see.
Last night show was better than the first night for a few reasons imo.
#1. Met Hendrixfreak. Good to finally meet you man. Sorry Nappy, but after the end of that Los Lobos set, I was in a whole nother world. I was just soaking it in. I'm sure we'll meet again.
Which takes me to the #2 reason. The end of that Lobos set. Hendrixfreak nailed with with the hybrid band magic. Simply outstanding stuff.
#3 reason. Sugaree.
#4 reason. Got incredible seats. I can't remember the last time I waited in line 3 hours for good seats. But I told myself it would be worth it and I was right!! Met awesome people in line again and it carried into the show. Hello to Quentin, Alyssa, Sam, Mel, Nikki and Josh. Yall are cool.
In fact, everyone I met in Denver seems so nice and chill. Impressive.
Also impressive are the number of Subarus here. Literally every third car I saw lol.
Good times. Good vibes. Just what the doctor ordered. Smuggling back some rocky mountain edibles and prerolls. Shhhh. Don't tell mom.
Now, let's see if that Dave's is waiting for me at home. Time to......fly. 🤢

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 11:44

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Thanks Vguy and HF for your time and comments. We love you guys!
So many Subies because they get good mileage, reliable, and go in the snow.
Almost the Progressive's (read hippy) car of our era like the VW was BITD.
Same boxer four configuration only water cooled and not as polluting.
As to why we're chill? It's Colorado, why not be chill. We've got it pretty good.
Cheers

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Submitted by Jack Baller on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 13:21

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Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

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Submitted by gcrueger on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 14:24

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So as I am wont to do, I separated the tracks into two distinct shows upon import to iTunes (69-11-02 DaP 43 Family Dog, San Francisco, CA, and 69-12-26 DaP 43 McFarlin Auditorium, SMU, Dallas, TX) and lo and behold each show is 1 hour and 58 minutes. Synchronocity indeed, as Hunter's old DNC website promulgated. Total surprises here, "What it is is that Bill, who's the drummer that sits over here, is somewhere over Omaha, right now, on a plane, somewhere. Or at least last we heard. Yeah, he's on his way here, though, and they assure us that he'll be here in manner of moments. So Bobby and I are gonna regale you with some old standards while we're waiting around."

....believe it or not jack baller, I do recall seeing you! Were you waiting in the upper north lot line by chance?
I get a lot of shout outs regarding my Make America Grateful Again tee. Not ashamed to say its my current go to concert apparel. Awesome conversation starter!!
Home safe to more monsoon weather. Flight was delayed an hour due to it. No Dave's but thats OK. Still riding high. Had a blast!
Random fist bump to the peeps in the room across the hallway at the Best Western playing some moe. this morning. That was cool.
I'm far for illustrious however. Just a music junkie who gets off on meeting awesome people. Which was pretty simple to do at those shows. Mission accomplished.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 17:23

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Death Don't Have No Mercy is the greatest achievement of the early, raw Dead. It fit the spooky blues element to a T, was a great showcase for early Jerry's electric blues soloing and fit the whole "dead" theme around the band at the time... fantastic version here.

Glad to hear so many enjoyed themselves recently at Red Rocks. Yes, it is an amazing place and the crowd always feels like family at any Dead-themed or similar vibed show. We always talk to strangers and have fantastic times and joints are shared far and wide.

I did not attend... Derek in the Allmans was more my speed, but he is an unbelievable talent and all respect to his current band.

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Submitted by frosted on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 18:14

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I got a chance to listen to everything on disc 2 and 3 except Speedway Boogie and Love light at the end of 3 on my driving day trip today.

Whoa is about what I have to say, more jazzed about this than any release in the past several years. This instantly rose to my top tier. Gotta give it some more listenings first, but it smokes. It seems somewhat more coherent and well threaded than some of the other 1969 and 1970 DaP releases, though I love them all. Two late 60s Dark Stars also, what's not to like?

Taking the liberty of detailing some more thoughts on it here. Side one gave me the feel of a good solid 1970 set, with the electric and acoustic sets being so late in 1969, might as well have been early 1970. Was driving on a mountain road when listening, so couldn't take detailed notes, but loved the inclusion of Little Sadie, with Garcia's smokeless touch.

I also enjoy the stage banter from this period. Garcia just had a way with words and phrasing when he talked. He could read the phone book and somehow make it sound interesting and amusing.

Then things get cooking.

Disc 2 starts with a deep and mysterious Dark Star of the late 60s, including that jam about 2/3 of the way through that you sometimes hear (which some here can probably name, though I'm not that fully immersed). The second Dark Star, on disc 3, has the jam interlude also. It's one of those anthem-like melodies that Garcia pulls off from time to time, and made me think, man, this might be just the thing that accompanies you when you're on the way to that better place in the after life if there is such a thing. Just got the hair on my neck standing while I drove. Both Stars are superb IMO, but will take more listening for me to sort out.

St. Stephen on disc 2 seems a tad more subdued than usual, probably to ease back a bit in between the intense Dark Star and a rollicking Eleven. Still quite a good transition.

Death don't have no Mercy is probably the most searing version of that I've heard. Garcia inhabits the role of the lost soul left bereft by the demise of his family. Scary good.

Black Peter is a decent acoustic version. Uncle John's Band starts with some aimless strumming - feels like they hadn't yet settled on the opening riff we all know so well. But it's well played. My only minor complaint is that again Phil's voice here and in a few places on the high registers just seems a bit off to me. I am not a musician so don't know if it's slightly out of tune or that he just doesn't have a good singing voice. It's easy enough to overlook, though at times I've wished they just would have let Jerry and Bobby do the vocalizing and harmony. Still works ok for me though.

Disc 3 pops out with a solid Casey Jones. Hard to Handle is interesting -- mostly the 1971's where Garcia and Weir cut loose are definitely my favorites, and it seems like they were trying to get their legs in a lot of the 1969 and 1970 versions, with less guitar soloing. Jerry cuts loose on this one though, but not with the same approach as the 1971s. This is probably my favorite that I've heard outside the 1971s.

China Cat/Rider hit the spot as usual. High Time is normally one of my least favorite and to me boring early Dead tunes, but they did alright on this one, compared to many.

Me and My Uncle had that extra Texas edge as they played it in Dallas, and the Dark Star was another stellar effort, so to speak, from my point of view anyway.

Will finish disc 3 tomorrow, but I have to say this one has exceeded my expectations so far.

Well done, Dave and Dead net!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 21:02

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OG series
Wink of an Eye

Some psychedelic references

"My old buddy you're movin' much too slow"

:)))

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 21:26

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I have a ritual where I rip the CDs to 320 kbps mp3 and WAV, put each show into its own dated folder, store them on redundant USB drives, and then upload the mp3s to my phone, ordered by date.

For something like DaP 43, I usually alter the artwork, so every show has unique cover art when I scroll through the list. I made a whole new 11/2/77 Seneca show out of the bonus tracks from DaP 12 & DP 34. That left 4 missing songs, but there's a fine Betty Board to fill those gaps. There was some Dicks Picks looking artwork online for 11/2/77, so it worked out nicely.

This Dave's Picks 43 is just what the Doctor ordered. I've had these shows on SBD a while, but I rarely listen to them. There's a part of me that says "wait for the Full Norman", so these are pretty fresh. I couldn't be happier with this pair of shows. I was hoping for some late '69 and it came :D

Just finished a second run of 11/2/69. Great set list - very happy to get that Midnight Hour in there.
I thought The Eleven vocals were very solid. That has to be one of their most difficult to do well. I may listen to that one again and then queue up 12/26.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 22:13

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Will have to listen to 8/1/73 today. Pretty sure this was the last Dead show he played a Stratocaster.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 03:46

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This is one of the most refreshing Picks in a while. Also agree I can't look at the cover without going cross-eyed. I might need one of those "alternate" covers you speak of KeithFan.

Someone mentioned the onstage banter. It really is refreshing to hear the young Jerry and Bobby yucking it up. Happy Birthday Jerry. You were a long way from So Many Roads on DaP 43. Your soul is a flower in the Master's bouquet.

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Submitted by peterparker111 on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 04:14

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OKAY

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 06:34

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For JG!

EDIT: Subbies, have 2, 4 over the years, poor man’s Audi lol.
Nice balance of features, good in snow and mountains without having to drive a huge gas hog.

Glad you guys had a great time and enjoyed the shows! It truly is a special place!
Would love to hear what Nappy has to say?

Heading into town to the PO this morning with nervous anticipation!

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Submitted by gerrymalone on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 07:16

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Have they l shipped already? Mine looks like it was never shipped. I have a subscription and was really looking forward to listen to these shows.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 08:22

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Aug. 1, 1973, fresh off three GD shows in the past five days -- Watkins Glen x 2, got home July 29, then went to July 30 & Aug 1 shows with The Band. On Aug. 1, the dense crowd up front parted (I'm a little audience left, but close) and a girl rode on a guy's shoulders to the lip of the stage and handed up a birthday cake for Jer to much applause from the crowd. I think a roadie handled the cake, cuz Jer was already strapped in (last time with Nash Strat, you say?).

Those two shows are a blur, perhaps understandably. Would LOVE to hear those released. They gotta release a Jer b-day show at some point before I shamble off this mortal coil, no?

Edit: I was two weeks shy of my 16th birthday at that show.... started young.

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Submitted by GML on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 08:49

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I've been seeing posts on social media for days now from people who've received their copies but, so far, I've not gotten the "your order is on the way" email. Is this a widespread issue, or is it just me? I'm dying to hear these shows!

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Submitted by estimated-eyes on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 08:57

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Having only digested discs 1 and 2, I have to chime in with a 'Holy...' add whatever expletive you normally use. This is one fantastic release. For the Family Dog show, there is so much unique here-- on disc 1, the Big Boss Man stands out with its guitar and vocal intro. But the Dark Star with its thematic jams, top notch Eleven and as someone noted, the Death Don't... is chilling, haunting, amazing. So damn good. Face-melting stuff. The acoustic set at SMU is stellar-- Little Sadie! Can't wait to listen to the electric set tonight.

Those TTB Red Rocks shows sound amazing and the setlists look great. Jealous you got a full on jam with Truck and Tedeschi joining Los Lobos. We got one song of Susan singing with Los Lobos, but a full on jam-- that is the goods.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 09:28

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40 years ago today, I saw the fellas play the OK Zoo Amphitheatre. It was Jerry's 40th birthday, and of course we wished him well with a Happy Birthday To You. Twas a nice show on a great leg of a super summer tour. Folks were saying that the band partied hard the night before in Austin after the show that was immortalized in Thirty Trips.
Jerry looked a little pale and sweaty but rose to the occasion.

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Submitted by Duece on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 09:28

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All with a release date of 07/29 (not complaining, just stating facts. Looks like they bit off more than they can chew):
1) No Shipping Notice on DAP 43 yet for me
2) No shipping Notice on Europe 72 releases yet for me
3) Still unable to download Lyceum

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Submitted by jjc on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 09:51

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Deuce it is frustrating as hell and you are not alone. I feel exactly the same. One would figure when you bought all three one would have come thru on release day. Horrible customer service and quite honestly do not need the downloads now I will wait to see if the big ticket ever shows but I will not wait for ever.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 09:54

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We were next to the soundboard and, just behind it, there were at least two stereo mic setups, so someone has that jam preserved. I wonder what it will sound like? I thought to go ask for a dub but also thought, no, this is a moment, I don't need a tape. The shrooms were coming on and I'd smoked part of a doob with Vguy so that maybe half-hour segment was truly delicious and powerful. Still, I would be curious... Seriously, I've seen TTB a fair amount since its inception and have seen Lobos since the mid-90s and that was one monster jam. If anyone finds the recording on one of those platforms, please tip us off.

Just to help ease the worries: there have been several instances of Dave’s Picks that have shown up with no shipping notice etc. Back a few years it seemed to be status quo, so most likely nothing to fret over.
Perhaps crank up the Tom Petty in the mean time as the waiting IS the hardest part!

PS, nothing in my PO Box either : (

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 11:06

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The Lyceum box I ordered arrived today - but it's status on the board is that it hasn't shipped yet, and is still being processed. So it doesn't look as though they bother too much with those notices.
Incredible speed in which I received this box, I have to say. UPS couldn't actually hand it over to me, as they don't accept payment by card for VAT, but now I've done that on the phone, it should be here with me tomorrow.

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