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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • hendrixfreak
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    I'll say this about that, daverock

    Honestly, I found Neal Cassady's The First Third -- about growing up in Denver and such -- to be far superior writing than much of what Kerouac did. I mean, the freakish Truman Capote was a very good writer, who famously said that what Kerouac did was "typing." About as nasty a put-down as can be and I don't endorse it, having enjoyed much of Kerouac's work. But The First Third is truly well written and the story it tells is full of pathos. Of course, Neal never got to live the third third.

    As for the Woodster, Dennis, I joke about him because in certain circles "our age" mentioning him gets hissed at. But I never believed that child abuse BS because outrageous tactics in divorce proceedings were at that time an SOP. I.e., Mia Farrow is and was a total nutjob and it sounded like her attorney cooked up the abuse story to get Woody to surrender to her terms. "Make it stop" type of tactic. Now, is Woody a total creep for marrying his 19 year old former daughter in law? Totally. But I'm not consigning him to oblivion over that one.

    Okay, solved THAT one... It's 95 in Denver and in a couple hours I will descend into my 70-degree basement, with the neon Hamm's sign, for a spleef and guitaring session. That's my urban escape in summer heat.

    C'mon Dave, let's get some excitement going: make a special release of that new June '68 Owsley tape OR give OSF permission to release it. Then, box news and 43 news. Did I say please?

    Proudfoot: no friggin' idea what you're talking about. What? Are you taking over for Bolo and his indecipherable clues??

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    Your Joni comment reminding me of a bit done by the cast (I believe) of National Lampoons Lemmings...it was a fake ad for a new Joni LP "Joni Mitchell Sings For Dogs"...funny stuff although at the time my female friends did not think so

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    Who has a tape of this show? It's been listed in Deadbase since the very first edition so it's safe to assume that the show took place. You know D/N/S did their research if this show didn't exist it would be removed from Deadbase. Another show I'm always seeking out is
    02-06-79, Tulsa Oklahoma posters do exist but I've never come across a tape of it even as filler.

  • daverock
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    Japanese road trips

    Nick -I haven't read many Japanese novels, but I did read "The Memory Police" By Yoko Ogawa last year-excellent. Going out with someone who wrote haiku over the last three years led me to reading a few collections by Matsuo Basho - "The Narrow Road To The Deep North and Other Travel Sketches" is one I have here.
    And of course, Jack Kerouac wrote haiku. I've been dipping into his collection, and his poems in general all year-it being the 100th anniversary of his birth. Makes a change from re-reading "On The Road" etc. I have never read Neal Cassady's book, though. I got the feeling that what was interesting about him was more other people's impressions, rather than the man himself. I could be wrong there, of course. You can't read everything, and poor old Neal failed the acid test I'm afraid. Even if he did pass the earlier one.

    I haven't seen a Woody Allen film for about 40 years. I used to like the science fiction one - I've forgotten it's title, at the time of writing. I'm not sure what I would make of it now. Comedy seems very much a product of it's time, to me, and it doesn't always travel well.

    It feels inevitable that I will get some Little Feat soon!

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    What a cool looking show. My brother talked to Peter Grant a couple of weeks ago, Grant played pedal steel at the show, he asked Grant if Owsley had taped the show, Grant said he didn't remember Owsley being there and Owsley usually made his presence known.

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    Secret eggsalad sandwich formula

    I'd love to know it, but don't want the federal chefs closing down my kitchen and sending me to the mixing bowl.

    I hope you can decipher my wink wink nudge nudges.

  • Dennis
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    I always loved that movie.

    I have also learned that Woody's transgressions don't enter into the thoughts of today's youth's. Most have never seen a Woody movie,,,, and the comedies are WAY too long ago. Most kids I meet in the store, never heard of him.

    shame,,, some great stuff there.

    I played bass cello in the marching band.

    My mother dressed like hitler feeding my dad hot dogs.

    I will take 5,000 ham on rye to go, 2450 without pickle, 1345 with extra mayo.

  • Vguy72
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    I also busted my Waiting For Columbus cherry....

    ....yesterday. Needed a cigarette afterwards.

  • hendrixfreak
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    I can offer the 'secret eggsalad sandwich formula'

    If that would help, proudfoot.

    A Woody Allen allusion, from a really stupid spy movie made in Japan that he narrated in Allen-esque English. Possibly his first "film."

    Question: is it safe to mention W.A. anymore or has that become taboo here in this hyper-sensitive forum of elitist snobs? Or, by posing the question in an intentionally rude manner, have I banished myself??

    "Self-banishment"... hmm... isn't that what we just did for two freakin' years?

    Okay, I have nothing to offer whatsoever! I'm just typing. Enjoy the weekend, gents. I'm learning to play Brown-eyed Women and it's a gas!

  • proudfoot
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    30 Trips unofficial copies loaned to me recently

    10 3 76 is missing disc 3
    Oh, maaaannn...

    To the Archive, Robin!!!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Ordered already !!!

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

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Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

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One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

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I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

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Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

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Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
Bee to the blossom, moth to the flame; Each to his passion; what's in a name?

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38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

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It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

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…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

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So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

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I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

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Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

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I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

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Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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