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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #631
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    Daverock, of course I too went straight to the Red Rocks shows upon first listen before hearing the rest of the box. After getting to all of them I was calling 7-3-78 St. Paul the hidden gem. That must have been a peak period for them. The energy is there. Almost swaggering I'd say, like they need a pack of cigarettes rolled into the sleeve of their t-shirt.
    Cheers

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    Me too

    I also played Omaha 7/5/77 after reading Oroboros's post. The first set, last night-excellent - Jerry's guitar sounds as cool and clear as the driven snow. Own up time....for the last couple of years, when I have played shows from this 78 box, I have played the first one 7/1, missed out the next two and gone on to the two Red Rocks shows. I have no idea what put me off Omaha in the past - makes me wonder what other unidentified jewels I have here.

    Exile - I was unfairly dismissive of Black and Blue, too. It's a very entertaining album - I didn't like funk or disco in the 70's, but that's no excuse now. I wasn't keen at all when it came out-Spring 1976, I believe. With Mick Taylor gone, "Fool To Cry" issued as a single and punk waiting in the wings, The Stones, along with most of the great bands from 1965-1975 suddenly seemed a bit passe. I bought the first Ramones album in Summer 1976-that was the sound of the times for me. 40 odd years later... Black and Blue is still on my playlist, and I no longer even have that Ramones album.
    I saw The Stones at Knebworth in 76 - and I have the programme here-nothing to do with music, but it's curious how The Stones and their fans were presented. In the article on The Stones, it states, "Young boys eagerly flocked the Mary Quant make up department in Harrods trendy Way-In shop on Saturday afternoon.The disco pumped out "Hey Negrita" as the boys applied eye liner and lipstick to gaunt virginal faces." I don't think so. I was 19 then, and the article seemed to show how out of touch The Stones had become at that time, with my generation.
    They also apparently had a food stand where you could buy a portion of chicken curry for 0.55p. This in the middle of the hottest heat wave for decades.

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    That Estimated > Eyes is outstanding. That Eyes of the World has always been a go to post hiatus Eyes.. it's outstanding. I've always been big on that box. 7/1 never circulated and is outstanding, the first Red Rocks shows did circulate and are well.. not to overuse the term but outstanding. A great moment in GD history perfectly preserved for us to enjoy. Aptly timed as we are entering a holiday weekend and the box centers around the Fourth of July.

    Outstanding

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    Been looking at that July 1978 box when picking some dead to listen to lately, but keep getting sidetracked by a different choice, but Oroboros' post about the virtues of the July 5, 1978 Omaha show prompted me to give it a listen today. Currently on Wharf Rat. I always liked that show, and the recording is excellent. I imagine it was exponentially cooler to be there in person at the time. The artwork on that one is probably about my favorite from that box as well, and I liked all the art from that box, a lot.

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    Hey guys, I lurk more than anything but I saw some Stones talk and I agree with Dave Rock. It's Only Rock 'n Roll is an underrated album. The thing with it in my opinion, is that the songs are either dynamite (like the opening song fictional drummer) or B side material. The other problem is a couple of the songs suffer from Led Zeppelin IV / Dark Side of the Moon syndrome, meaning they've been played on the radio so much that they've lost a little luster (title track and Ain't Too Proud to Beg). I think these songs are pretty high quality once you're sitting back giving them your full attention (In their order of appearance on the LP).

    If You Can't Rock Me
    Ain't Too Proud to Beg
    It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)
    Till the Next Goodbye
    Time Waits for No One

    Dance Little Sister

    The first 5 songs are all of side one and are solid. It's Only Rock 'n Roll has "Start Me Up" hit quality. Time Waits For No One makes us realize that Mick Taylor should have had at least one or two tracks on every album to stretch out like he does on this one and Can't You Hear Me Knockin' from Sticky Fingers. Missed opportunity. The thing with these songs is you may think of hearing Dance Little Sister on the radio and thought, meh, average song. Until you really listen to everything going on with the guitars. Keith Richards bass chops on If You Can't Rock Me are cool. Till the Next Time is on par in my mind with Wild Horses and Angie, but again, missed opportunity in that Taylor could have been used to play an electric solo or something, similar to Wild Horses. The remaining songs on the record don't do it for me. Luxury is borderline, but leans too far into funk. Fingerprint File is way too far into funk and not that great a song for me. If You Really Want to Be My Friend and Short and Curlies should have been put in the can for later. Between Goats Head Soup and It's Only Rock 'n Roll, I think there's a great album in there.

    Black and Blue had some great songs with Hand of Fate and Crazy Mama. I think Hand of Fate was as good as 70s rockers got, with very few exceptions.

    Not much to say that hasn't been said about Dave's 43. I would never complain for this type of release.

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    you guys are so cool. Love this forum

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    ...It's like buying a book from the bookstore and then realizing the pages are all put together out of order, and there are pages from another book mixed in. And when you go back and say, hey, bookseller, they put the pages of the book in the wrong order, and there are pages from another book mixed in. And he says, don't worry, you can rip them all out and put the book back together in whatever order you want.

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    The other day I ordered a burger with fries. Instead, they brought me fries with a burger. So I complained. But dude, the burger guy said, you can eat them in whatever order you want. Mmfff, I said, eating my fries and burger.

    Received my shipping notice today for the TTB’s “I am the Moon” vinyl set. Because today is the release date. What a concept! You release the record on the release date! Genius! I just want to note that, when you bought the 4-lp set, they promised to provide a digital download of each separate album as each of the four parts of this project was released. And then they actually did! On the actual release dates! And the files actually worked! Amazing! And now they shipped vinyl on the release date. It’s so weird.

    A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. Like the other other day I’m eating a plate of shrimp and listening to Electric on the Eel for the first time in years. And so were you.

    Last five:

    JGB: Electric on the Eel (discs 1 and 6)
    Derek & the Dominos: Layla
    Bill Evans: The Hilversum Concert
    Christian McBride: At the Village Vanguard
    Stones: El Mocambo

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    All is well in the middle of the country and I couldn't agree more with this esteemed group's statements on current and past musical topics.

    Phil and Friends has consistently displayed such exploratory and jamtasic shows which makes them a 'must see.' I recently attended another Wilco concert prior to that show and the inclusion of Jeff Tweedy and Nels Cline in the friends in Chicago reflect excellent choices. Nels has sat in with P & F on multiple occasions and Wilco has covered the Dead on a variety of occasions including Bobby sitting in for Dark Star, Ripple, etc. I regretted that Phil got Covid and couldn't headline with String Cheese Incident's recent Red Rocks shows, but Billy Strings was a welcome replacement and we in the audience had a wonderful time. Still I long to see Phil play again and hope to have another chance soon. The SCI 'dead set' with Billy was a delight and I saw Billy rev up with the Cheese as they took on many of our favorite Dead tunes that evening. And I am quite relieved that Phil has fully recovered from the Covid and is back playing live.

    Besides attending the Wilco and SCI shows, I have also loved recent concerts with the Infamous Stringdusters, Joe Russo's Almost Dead, the Jayhawks, Railroad Earth, Yonder Mountain, Mollie Tuttle, Sierra Hull, and several years ago was quite taken by previously mentioned Larkin Poe (opened for Elvis Costello). Such terrific music touring again and I'm very grateful to be able to make the journey (pun intended).

    However, given this thread on DP 43, to get back on how this Dave's Pick is stellar and echo others sentiments how the primal Dead are such an unmitigated treat. This is a special release and deserving of frequent rotation.

    And should any of you be inspired by the break-neck speed and turn on a dime of the early Grateful Dead, please consider attending a Joe Russo's Almost Dead show. Yes, Oro (my brother from another mother) those two Vail JRAD shows, along with the JRAD show at Red Rocks were stellar. These guys have the stamina and pace of the early Grateful Dead but along with the Dead's entire song catalogue. Simply remarkable jamming, truly exploratory, and much more in the vein of P & F as opposed to the D & C. JRAD is energy personified and each band member is truly infused with amazing grasp of these wonderful songs along with a jazz mentality and interplay.

    To add to the dialogue regarding 'rain stories' from concerts (discussed earlier in this thread), I got one to share. I recall back in 1978 when the Grateful Dead played at the Omaha Civic Auditorium in July. The venue was about half full (4,000?) but everyone was chomping at the bit as we had not seen the Dead in Nebraska since early in the early 70's. I took my Nak 550 into the venue and there was no hassle getting in the deck in this time, but remember this was before the days of 'taper's sections.'

    Out in the hallway, the Hell's Angels wandered about sporting full colors and big grins. They may have been transporting 'party favors' and decided to take in a show, or perhaps road tripping with the band? Although I did not see them at the subsequent Red Rocks shows. Anyway, I headed down to the floor to set up my Nak in front of the sound board. When I was getting everything ready, I saw this guy with a great rig setting up. Luckily this kind stranger (I have since discovered he was famous taper Bob Wagner) let me patch out of the back of his Sony, which was terrific as he had a tall (8 ft?) stand to get will above the crowd noise. We were about 15 to 20 feet in FOB. So Garcia treats us to a blistering Sugaree opener, the kind that drove the crowd wild. His leads mounted into a wave that crests, recedes, regroups, and roars back with such power and delight that adds to the synergistic effect causing our frenzied response as his rolling/soaring guitar work lift and subside within the band.

    Then BIODTL, TLEO, and then Bob took the spotlight with a "Look's Like Rain." About half way through the son, I suddenly noticed something shimmering in the air between the band and me. I thought "what a fantastic light show! Or have I shifted into 5th gear just a little earlier than I scheduled?" I staggered towards that visual disturbance in front of me to investigate. The crowd was dancing madly in the middle of the floor as a waterfall played over them. The waterfall was about 25 feet in circumference. I put my hand into the water...hand out, no rain, hand in, pouring rain.. I jumped into the waterfall drenching us all in the middle of the Civic auditorium. Then stepped out and there was none. I shook my head and then dove back into the deluge and danced through LLR and next came Direworlf and a delightful All Over Now, with Keith and Donna simply killing it. Candyman, Lazy >Supplication and Bobby informed "we are going to take a short break" (ha, it was never a short break!)

    I staggered back to reload a new tape (remember cassettes?) and I looked for some validation of my experience. I asked my friends if I was not in fact 'soaking wet' as I patted my wet t-shirt? And they grinned knowingly and affirmed that , yes, in fact I was 'all wet."

    Then this unique show continued (nice indoor water feature, boys!) with a killer second set, complete with a transportive Estimated>Eyes>Wharf Rat>Truckin'>Iko Iko > Around and Around.

    As I left the auditorium I noticed the water standing on the ground outside, a summer storm? Hey was this just a case of a leaking roof? Or did the Dead actually conjure up the forces of nature as they were so prone to do?

    Next to travel to their/my maiden Red Rocks shows. Would Phil bombs create reverse gravity and make us float up into the air? What do they have up their collective sleeves for us next (ah-oooo, Werewolves of London, ah-ooo)?

    Those were the daze.....

    Zen saying "teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."

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    Jim - You bring up a good point that Phil is well into his 80s, yet is still bringing it with such new creations as Philco. I think he personifies that well worn axiom “Find something you love to do and you’ll never have to work a day in your life.”

    DaveRock - I personally always loved the subtle guitar work on “Fingerprint File” from IORR. Mick Taylor should never have left the Stones, they were a much better band with him (with due respect to Ronnie). Last week, I re-watched their “bootleg” release from the Marquee Club in 1971 - now THAT was THE best Stones lineup.

    Blues For Allah - what an excellent choice. Some really jazzy passages throughout that entire release.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

....how was that Phish show at Blossom? Looks like it was a rager. Getting awesome reviews. Free is one of my favorite songs and phans are saying it was one of the best ever. Missed it last night on the free youtoob offering. Will check it out tonight.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 11:54

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this one hit my mailbox totally unexpectedly, as it did with others. Very psyched.
I am realizing now that indeed I know the Dark Star from 11/2, I had sought his one out about 5 years ago on a random reference and I recall being totally blown away not only with the exploration but also the quality of the sound. Bear was a true Master.
I've not heard the other offerings; they are ripe.

Off to BDA tomorrow for a looong weekend to celebrate my younger bro's 15th wedding anniversary.
It'll be hot, but I'll take a kid-free mini-vaca with all of our friends any day.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 12:00

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I'll wait to listen after a spliff.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 13:43

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In the very worst case scenario, I have an extra copy. So you're covered either way.

My personal interest, apart from wanting everyone to get their release, is that you'll get to fire up that bomber of Indica I passed to ya at TTB and explore the "new" music.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 14:24

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....btw. scam alert. Just got a text from USPS about "unable to deliver package due to incorrect address." Thought that was weird, especially getting a text from the post office. So I clicked the linq. Was asked to fill in all my contact information, which I did, then was told there was a $3 redelivery fee and was asked for my credit card info. I may be dumb sometimes, but I ain't stupid. I looked up the tracking # and it was bogus.
Beware out there!!

Did I make you mad? My numbers keep getting greater and greater. Almost have a number so high, it is almost beyond 25,000. Oh well glad i got a few low numbers.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 15:00

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Just wanted to clean up a few recent discussions with you guys.

OB: you had said 42 bonus disk would be a tub thumper and you were correct. Sounds Great!

BTK and Dave Rock. In discussing "funky joints", BTK you wrote about them finding a body when renovationg Oakland Auditorium. I did include that article when I wrote a PhD dissertation on OA. Had many articles and lots of pictures of the now shuddered wonderful facility. (I had a bunch of lynx, but when it was time to post, no more lynx.) You also mentioned Lake Merritt. I really loved the lake and the entrance. It made me feel as close to what a Winterland show was like. Maybe 200-300 campers. Very nice, fun, but small shakedown. Made everything feel like home and so relaxed. We had 2 of the 4 tickets for our run. We got a travel package that included round trip airlines, supposed to be 4 tickets instead of 2, and two nights hotel at the Hotel San Francisco or San Franciscan Hotel. All for $800. Was a GD travel group out of Philly. The first night we had two walk away about a mile to a pay phone at Oak St. and 14th St. where we would call a holiday inn a few miles east where Kurland tours was staying. They answered and said, yeah I have 2 tickets for tonight if you can come get them. We hauled ass back to OA got in the car and took off to the holiday inn. Grabbed the tix and got back to drop and get in just as the Neville Brothers were playing. Glad you saw them and liked their playing as well. That was New Orleans in Oakland.

Dave Rock, speaking of funky joints, the very first funky joint I was ever in was the Marquee at 90 Wardour St. Was there twice, March 1982 and March 1983. 1982 was just going inside during the day. The club was preparing for the night, it was around 1 or 2 that afternoon. Just amazed at the long hall with all the pictures of artists on the wall. Reminds me of the Whisky a go go in Los Angeles. In 1983, my friend and I went to see a band called "The The." Never had any USA success but I understand that were relatively successful in Europe. Of course, you can be relatively successful and still make a very good living. Great presence, as a funky joint, although not sure you could ever smoke or get real funky in there. Let me know if I am confused.

Any way, not sure y'all will remember this from about a month back.

Can't wait to crank 43, will begin Friday afternoon. Sure it will get a couple of listens this weekend.

Again, want to say Thanks to Owsley Foundation, Dave, Jeffrey, and all the others that help keep this bus moving forward and with with great new music (to me)!

Also, thanks to the regulars. I wish I had as much to write about. Bet TTB and Los Lobos was killer. Hard to believe no smoke at Red Rocks, bet that is a non executable regulation.

G

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Edit2 - BTK found where they found the body early this year but it seems when I wrote the piece there had been a body found on much earlier renovation. I am going to search and find that write-up and see if I am correct. Hope all well ur way!

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Submitted by AliceD on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 15:56

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I can't find the words to accurately describe # 43. But listening to it last night I smiled, laughed, stared at my stereo in awe and even got a little teary a couple of times. A lot of different emotions over four hours. Personally, I feel its Dave's best pick yet (and that's saying a lot).

Thanks Dave, Jeffery, Bear and everyone else involved in this release.

I received the same text. When I tried to reload it so I could track the package off of the real USPS site, the language changed to French, then Arabic. I wonder if dead.net was unknowingly hacked. Seems highly unlikely that both you and I would get the same text message otherwise.

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Yeah, Soulful Strut, if that's what it's called, is the jam in those Dark Stars that I was referencing in my comments a few days ago. I did think I recognized it from the 1970 30 Trips Dancin in the Streets too, as it always caught my attention there as well. Sort of reminds me of the majestic interlude jam between Alligator and Going down the Road on the 1971 Ladies and Gentlemen...not the melody or tune itself, but the way it has that joyful, otherworldly quality.

Those jams both put me in the best of moods and get my endorphins peaking, especially when I'm spinning them on a road trip somewhere along a mountain road in the California Sierra. Which I was again during my first listen to 43.

This 43 disc got me fired up to go back and start checking out some more 1969s and 1970s that I hadn't heard on youtube yet. Some really good new ones since I last checked.

I also stumbled onto the full Woodstock set which I realized I had never heard, though I always heard that the Dead didn't like it and wouldn't approve release. It's not really so bad, I actually enjoyed it mostly. Though with the technical glitches and some guy (concert promoter approved?) sharing the stage and blabbing nonsense into the mike at the first part of Lovelight, I could see why they'd not want it released. There was a different and interesting jam by Jerry about 2/3 of the way through the very long Lovelight that I don't recall ever hearing before, must have been one of his improvs, and a very nice one too.

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I've had those too. When I laugh out loud at something a musician does, it usually means I'm so stunned by the magnificence of the moment that I can't figure out what else to do.

Now that the existence of the banana boxes has been revealed a reinvigorated effort to infiltrate the vault has begun.

Vguy and AJS,
This site was hacked last week according to (I think) Wilfred who witnessed it being another site. Then other people pointed out how stuff that was gone from the store reappeared, although not available to order.
At the Rhino store the Waiting For Columbus Box is no longer available to order (it just came out).
This may also explain why no tracking number emails, and then multiple emails after DaP43 has arrived.

Something’s afoot in the hackerverse……

But yes, DaP43 is awesome!
All hail to Bear and his banana boxes.

(Ha, a Phil Bomb on 11/2 Dark Star just woke up my dog)

If you don’t have it already, hope you get it soon.

....still out for delivery. Is the mailman playing Pokemon Go or what? And Hendrixfreak's indica joint is just begging to be lit.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 19:37

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will get virgin listen Monday during road trip.

Been listening to 6 24 85 here and there

Summer 85 deserves a box set

6 24 (30 Trips)
6 25
6 27
6 28
6 30
7 1

Also heard some of DixPix August 74

Hot stuff

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 19:44

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....I know it may considered heresy amongst some here, but I never found Seinfeld very funny....(runs away with fingers in ears).
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Ok. I'm back. Going with Dave's 40 Deer Creek disc 4 on the big boy with the TV on the CMA Fest muted while I bide my time. Cool stage and lights actually.
HEY! Deer Creek '90 sounds pretty good too!
We are some spoiled MF'ers and we're here for it. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy because music is indeed, the best!

He had a wooden leg, an eye patch and a hook for a hand. The bartender was curious. "How did you get that wooden leg?" he asked.

The pirate took a swig of ale. "'Twas a terrible sea battle. I stood bravely, directly facing 12 cannons.All they managed to hit was my leg."

The bartender said "What about your hook?"

The pirate took another long swig. "Arrrr, twas the day the British navy caught me. They tied me to the mast, I escaped by gnawing my own hand off."

The bartender was growing sceptical. "And how did you get that eyepatch?"

The pirate took another swig. "Twas a mutiny. Me own crew left me marrooned on a desert island. But I had no fear. I lay down on the sand to wait to be rescued. As i looked up, a seagull flew over and pooped in me eye."

The bartender said "That's ridiculous, no one loses an eye from bird muck."

The pirate finished his ale in one gulp, and grimaced. "Twas the first day with the hook."

Lol

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 22:09

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That's blasphemy. Seinfeld is very funny.....or is it.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 02:48

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I, too, remember the notion of a hack being raised. But, alas, twas not I.

Hey now SF/PF, give a shot to 6-22-85 Alpine. Another satisfying Summer '85...

P.S. Seinfeld is indeed funny. Getting dated now, but still elicits the chuckles.

P.S.S. Starfinder's assertion that Dave is inclined to fill out discs when they are sparse with tracks makes me guffaw some too...

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 03:13

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I keep rotating these two concerts over and over. I am so happy for these shows from this period. It's exactly what I was hoping for and felt might be possible, given the amount of time it had been since a Dave's Pick came out for 1969 (although DaP 30 was close, it's a different experience). When I first really got into the Dead hardcore, my buddy had two releases, and one of them was Dick's Picks 16 from 11/8/69. The "Bear" sound was ingrained early on.

Billy the Kid - those shows on your 1969 box set are probably going to be short - better add the Boston Tea Party run from NYE.

Frosted - there is a great essay on archive that lists every song that has that Soulful Strut jam (aka "Tighten Up"). archive.org/post/1055387/guide-to-the-tighten-up-jam

Aliced - I know how you feel man. I think there's a lot to be said for the audience interaction they had in those days. And you can feel how much fun they're having. Good times, always positive vibes. Just don't flash cameras in their eyes or shoot off fireworks. And for f***'s sakes don't climb on the fence idiot!

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 03:46

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Gary - I'm not sure I'm best placed to comment on the confusion of others, but what you say sounds spot on to me! I never went to The Marquee - looking online it's hey day was between 1964 and 1988, when it was on Wardour Street. Apparently it relocated after that - but it must have lost something in the travelling. It sounds like my sort of club, though. Maybe a bit like the 100 Club on Oxford Street in London. They have great photographs on the wall of people who have played there too - a great range of artists-I can remember ones of Son House and Keith Richards - many jazz artists from the early 60s too. I saw some great bands there - off the top of my head James Burton and band, The Pretty Things, Pink Fairies, Jefferson Starship, The Fuzztones - never a dull moment! I remember the name The The...but nothing more.

Charlie3 great post on the Dark Stars in Daves 43-looking forward to getting this one I must say.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 04:37

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Seinfeld?

I am disappointed in you. Please don’t tell me you like “Friends.”

Seinfeld sits atop the following classics:

All in the Family
M*A*S*H - the first three seasons only, with Henry and Trapper
Scrubs
The Office - before Michael left

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 05:08

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Was great for all 11 seasons. Sure it got preachy and somewhat corny, but show me better writing and better television now.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 05:12

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Not to mention the April run at The Ark. Or did I already. The only NYE show outside the bay area... further candidates for a '69 (68-70) box, nominations? My guess: a 12K edition could easily sell out more quickly than the current MSG box. Even considering the 6 MSG shows represent roughly 120K seats (less repeats). FW69 CD box fetches $500+ on the secondary and as yet, incomplete on vinyl. So when does the final night of FW69 run appear on vinyl ? Eight months to RSD2023... As of this morning, archive is showing the TTB Red Rocks 7/30 show.

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 06:01

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10-25-69 Dark Star
8-23-69 more Dark Star from a Farm in Oregon
8-30-69 More Dark Star from the Dog
That's just a sampling of some of the great Dark Stars from 69 there are more just got to poke around
That would be so cool, a box full of Dark Stars, they could call it tattered tales or round about the reason or (insert cool dark star name)

Vguy (and now Dennis):

"No soup for you!"

Shows others love that don't quite appeal to me: I will confess I never liked Big Bang Theory. And I found the Simpsons tiresome after a couple seasons. Friends worked at the time, but not since.

True fact...my wife and I were part of a test audience for Big Bang Theory in Las Vegas back...whenever. We were "meh". But the show became a hit.

And then they made Young Sheldon...oy.

Vguy and Dennis...if the situation ever arises, I won't have a square to spare for either of you. Hmph.

Y'all be cool anyway :)))

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 07:35

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If you missed,,,, vol 2 of weir and wolf is being released,,,, third man records,,,, limited color vinyl,,, regular vinyl and cd.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 07:45

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The acoustic song selection is choice.

69 box baby. FULL of Dark Stars.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 08:53

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I only dipped into the acoustic set across the first two discs, then the electric on disc one.

Sometimes, with relatively uinspired shows, I push my listening ears into the music to catch what I can. On this performance, one only needs to lay back and let the music fill your ears -- the groove is that good. Even some of the loosey-goosey acoustic, like the intro to Black Peter, becomes like an unstoppable wave.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 08:53

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I think I'll go for a round of frolf today.
Just because.

Currently doing Northern Exposure.
Not so much funny as quirky.
Doing the Doc Martin series after that.

Cheers

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 09:33

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Northern Exposure, used to really dig that show, made my wife and I think, hey, let's move somewhere like that, somewhere rural and a little remote, but with a normal light cycle throughout the year as weeks of straight darkness or weeks of unending light would push me right over the edge. Wound up here in MT from NY, probably one of my better choices, certainly can't think of anywhere I'd rather be over the last few years. Other factors involved as well, but that show was a bit of a catalyst.

Seinfeld is funny to me, dug that show, but when I checked out Larry David's Curb Your Enthusiasm I kind of got the idea that Larry is way funnier than Jerry, and an understanding that George Costanza was Larry's alter ego. Larry David was a head writer and co-producer on Seinfeld, and I suspect he was responsible for some of the best parts of that show. Curb Your Enthusiasm is funnier than Seinfeld in my book, especially the seasons with J.B. Smoove as Leon Black. J.B. Smoove and Larry David are hilarious together. Even if you don't really dig Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm is well worth checking out.

Soulful Strut is one of my favorite instrumental soul tunes, so if it's there I hear it. The only tune that I know by Young-Holt Unlimited, but what a great tune.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 09:47

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Found this,,,, musician will understand better than me

Why the ‘Tighten Up Jam’ Should Henceforth be Known as the ‘Soulful Strut Jam’
(Special thanks to member Paperback Writer at the Steve Hoffman forums).

The jam commonly referred to as the Tighten Up jam is so referred to based on the chords to (and its overall resemblance to) the 1968 track of the same name from Archie Bell & the Drells.
The problem herein lies in the chord structure of the jam. The original composition of Tighten Up is based on a simple chord change of F#Maj7 – BMaj7 (or, if you prefer to make your life more difficult, GbMaj7 – CbMaj7). In any case, these two sets of chord changes represent I IV in a Major key. But the GoGD jam in question is not I IV in a Major key; rather, it is I ii in a Major key. See 5/2/70, DP 8, Dancin’ in the Street from 6:52-10:15 (all times taken from the official releases noted herein) and 10/31/71, DP 2, Dark Star from 13:29-17:52; for officially-released and well-known versions. But often, things are not so cut and dried with the GoGD. The 1/2/70, DaP 30, Dark Star complicates things by including an unnamed jam starting at 19:41–> Feelin’ Groovy (starting at 21:42 and then meandering away)–> Soulful Strut (transposed; starting at 23:40).
Keep in mind that any transposition our boys might have done is irrelevant here. Transcribing a set of chord changes to another key does not affect their harmonic function.
However, the Grateful Dead play the Soulful Strut jam in A Major, using A and Bmin as the two chords. This represents both a transposition from F#/Gb Major and a reharmonization of I IV in a Major key to I ii in a Major key. But if we look at Soulful Strut, a 1968 composition by Young-Holt Unlimited, the main set of changes is BbMa7 – Cmin7: I ii in the Major key of Bb Major.
Don’t get hung up on the key/tonal center; focus on the functionality of the chords. If we transpose the two chords from Soulful Strut down a half step, we get A Bmin. Thus, what has long been known as the Tighten Up jam is, by its very harmonic construction, much more close to Soulful Strut than it is to Tighten Up.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 09:54

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....no offense to Seinfeld fans. And no, I'm not a Friends fan either. Agree on M*A*S*H front to back and All In The Family. Love South Park. Love That 70's Show. Have always had a sweet spot for Three's Company and Spongebob Squarepants (the first 4 seasons) and Parks & Recreation.
Checking out that TTB 7/30 show on the Archive now. I absolutely adore Susan's voice. Powerful stuff girl!!

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 10:08

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Dude, thanks, I knew that someone with more musical knowledge than me must be able to explain the musical structure to confirm what my ears were telling me, that the jams were based on Soulful Strut. I took piano lessons for a few years around 5th to 8th grade, and learned a little bit how to read music, but that is all hazy memory at this point, and explaining chord structure progression is way beyond me. I dig Tighten Up by Archie Bell and the Drells as well, another cool tune, I just could never quite make it fit some of those Dark Star and Dancing in the Street interludes. I'll have to check out the Oh Girl instrumental now.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 11:33

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43 years ago today, I was up at the Oakland Auditorium ( along with a lot of other great people who post on this forum) for another great evening with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. It was a great first show at the Oakland Auditorium, this building to take the place of Winterland. The Dead would play here up until 1989. I would see a lot of great shows here in Oakland and have alot of fun times.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 11:45

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In the picture in the liner notes. First guess was a mid-60s Mercedes which had little fins like that but there's some badging on the side of the fin a Mercedes didn't have. Guessing something like a Peugeot or Citroen? I think remember seeing Jerry pictured driving a Volvo later. Just curious.
And hey the music ain't bad either. First listen.
Cheers

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Submitted by boblopes on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 12:19

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Here's more from thread that KF posted:

11/2/69
Dark Star
17:30-22:20 (Feelin' Groovy)
22:20-25:00 (Tighten Up)
Another one of the times the Tighten Up and Feelin' Groovy were played back to back. This is a beautiful example of each of these themes. See 1/2/70 for this Dark Star's big brother. Thekind78 said about this Dark Star, "I gotta say of all the available Feelin' Groovy and Tighten Up jams the one from 11/02/69 at the Family Dog has Jerry playing ever so sweet. Just so soulful. I don't know if any other date has that kind of depth to the playing." I couldn't agree more.

12/26/69
Dark Star
16:30-17:30 (Feelin' Groovy)
17:30-20:00 (Tighten Up)
As I am listening to these Dark Stars again I am being reminded how often Feelin' Groovy and Tighten Up were juxtaposed. The jams really seem to develop simultaneously. In my other post about the Feelin' Groovy I describe this whole Dark Star jam as such. However, it is pretty clear that the second half is a Tighten Up.

second set is smokin' hot, at least on cassette and CD

I bet the OA became the mothership during Playin'

I envy your attendance

show envy?

:)))

8/4/79

Looks tasty

Have never heard but will soon.

Saturday in Oakland, right on.

What grabs me is the Shakedown being in the 2nd set, 4 spot, before playing. Bet that is going to be a lot of fun to hear! I love 2nd set shakedowns...

Havent read just yet, but makes we wonder if he was micro-doses. Guessing he was going thru counseling of a licensed therapist, or maybe a Shaman. My first introduction to micro-dosing came from John Fishman of Phish. He says that during his senior year of high school, he would wake up every morning at 5:00 and drop 50 mics, go back to sleep and wake up another couple of hours later and be ready for school. Been wanting to post that forever, now I have the reason. Of course, with the depth of this group/board I am sure it has been discussed before. I have pondered trying this. Maybe my Warlock powers would be Limitless. Can u feel me now?

G

edit: wow, ayahuasca (dmt)probably a shaman or even a licensed shaman. Dang where do I go again? haha j/k.

The fellas did some dmt early on...

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 08/04/2022 - 15:39

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Was there, balcony slightly to the left. Great show indeed, they premiered Althea and Lost Sailor; next night was even better in my opinion, with Hamza El Din showing up mid-second set, and a great Scarlet/Fire.
I like Seinfeld, can't stand Friends and love Sanford & Son. I think I'll pour myself a glass of Champipple now.

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