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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • PT Barnum
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    I was concerned, glad to hear you are well. Southwest of you I'm concerned, I still have friends in central florida, my mother lives down there (93 yrs old) but also dodged the main bullet, waiting for others to contact me. Mini vay kay play dead

  • dmcvt
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    thanks, Doc

    Good to hear you and yours safe and sound. Thoughts go out to FL friends (so far, all good) and all who were so near the path. Almost at 1972 here, streaming the early December 1971 run at mini-MSG Felt Forum. A gloriously bright sunny Vermont day, fall foliage coming on, first frost tonight. Will pull the last peppers, tomatoes and basil out now.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Love it! The Ess Amt-4 is a two-way with the slightly smaller Heil Air Motion Transformer and a 10" woofer rated 20W to 250W. They are 4 ohm, 45hz-24Khz, with the x-over at 1000hz, and called the sleeper in their killer line up from BITD. The best thing they have going is that Amt which delivers clear beautiful highs and solid mids in all directions from an open top design. Easy placement that way too. Look up their big boys, ESS Amt-1s and their Towers (I forget the number), well respected and still fetch four figure prices as parts units which tells you a lot. The Amt itself is indestructible and lifetime warranted. Mine had a solid pure pulp cone on that 10" which I have had to replace with a set of Misco, made in Minneapolis, Oaktron 10" from their Heritage line made to replace the similar stuff in all the brands from BITD. Same pure pulp cone and big voice coils and magnets but in a stamped steel frame just like the originals. Spec at 16-4000hz and 92 db efficiency.
    Got the ESSs cheap when almost new in 1977 from a college roomy who couldn't manage to get them back home to Cincy without a car. But then when the cat put a hole in one of the woofers in the 90s I replaced the originals with what I thought would be an upgrade but I screwed up. Bought subs that were 8-ohms by Pyramid, Super Pro Super Blue, made by Eminence in US ( Kentucky?) famous for their instrument speakers for bass and guitar. Great deal from a car audio shop going out of business and they took my torn ones in trade as well. As you know, that 8-ohm mistake changed the x-over to 2000hz and I traded off some midrange for killer, punchy bottom end which I thought at the time was good. Found out about five years ago that I screwed up and got the Miscos for about what I sold the now valuable subs for. Fit like a glove which no one who tried that swap with the only available 10" direct from ESS could do as all they sold was the big boy 10" from other higher models with a cast aluminum frame that required sawing into your cabinets just to make it fit. Found that out on Audio Karma luckily from others trying to do the same replacement on their various ESS. A couple of those guys used Dayton woofers to good effect but I went with Misco as their specs were a perfect match to original, hence original sound. Was not going to try to mess with upgrading as I might have had to upgrade the x-over too and taking a saw to the cabinets was out of the question. SO, long story longer, I got my midrange back and Phil bombs sound better than ever! Not bad for a novice hack job since I have zero skills with electricity or carpentry. Not even interested in a sub really. Pretty small living room and I want to keep peace in the neighborhood. Anytime you upgrade there is a leap of faith that the money you're spending will get the result you're after so I got lucky in all this I'd say. Some with a little more dinero are switching stuff all the time but you don't know unless you go. I certainly was OK with all my 70s stuff but you get used to your sound and don't realize how much better it can be until you go there. Thanks Oro.
    Cheers

  • daverock
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    I wish your last statement was true - but I suspect that the selfish behaviour of the powerful will have long lasting negative consequences for years to come.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Most anyplace one lives is essentially dangerous......

    For all those who asked, or were concerned...............

    The Gillespie household is doing fine. So far, we've only lost power for about 45 minutes, but it's back on now. We've only caught the "tropical storm" part of Ian, but I have heard that potentially, this may be the deadliest hurricane to ever hit Florida. We now live in Green Cove Springs, about 30 miles southeast of Jax, safely away from the beach, the St John's River, and Black Creek. We're in a newish house, on high ground, have lots of food and water, and have an excellent generator. The St Augustine area is getting badly flooded........

    The strongest hurricane to ever hit Florida was the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, sustained winds of 180+ mph when it hit. There is a lovely--and moving----monument in the Keys to the hundreds who lost their lives in that storm. I've visited that site many many times while I lived down there. The deadliest? Probably the same hurricane, the exact toll is unknown, but probably in the hundreds.......

    For Matthew, we evacuated. For Irma, we hunkered down and rode out the storm. For a hurricane, either get out early, or be prepared to ride it out. I reassured my wife, "No matter what comes, we'll ride it out together".

    Out of an abundance of caution, my office is closed today and tomorrow, and I don't work this weekend. A "mini-vacation" of sorts. Now that the power is back, I'm actually busy spreading 1972 Lyceum shows around. Some things never change, hurricane be damned!!

    Here we dodged a bullet, yet I pray for those in harm's way on the Gulf coast...............

    Stay safe, and rock on,

    Doc
    What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal......

  • Oroborous
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    Well said 1stshow

    Don’t think I’ve heard of the ESS Amt 4s, looked them up, interesting, do you use a sub with them?
    And you refreshed my memory about adcom so I looked into that brand a little too.
    Interesting video comparing Adcom and NAD to contemporary Schiit audio.

    Almost bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC before I got my Meitner. For like 22-23 hundred bucks they sound as good as many DACs costing many thousands more! Schiit makes simple but value friendly great sounding products, or at least the ones I’ve heard.
    But yeah, NAD and Adcom, same idea, BITD budget friendly but great sounding gear. Sounds like a sweet little system!

    Hybrid stuff. I’ve heard some sweet sounding hybrid stuff at audio shows.
    Of course Jer Bear had a hybrid system utilizing a Fender Twin Tube amp for his pre and a SS MC2300 power amp and we all know how great that sounded and perhaps why he never changed his backend!
    I would say if your going to try hybrid go tube pre and SS power…
    My best recollection was with my buddy who started YFS and built my custom Ref 3 server: had an amazing sounding system one year at RMAF using YFS server, Meitner DAC, Custom made fully analog pre (tube?) biamped with one of the best sounding MC 275 tube amps on the highs, and a 200 per McIntosh solid state amp on the lows (don’t recall the model), powering some Von Schweikert audio stand speakers. I thought the sound and imaging of this system, even in the shitty little hotel room sounded as good or better than much bigger and expensive systems there that year.
    Just can’t describe what a big clean sound this relatively small system produced! Of course for the price of the system it should! Lol.

    I think it’s like everything else: trial and error and if it’s done right it can be a plus!
    I’ve never had tube stereo gear, but I’ve heard some great stuff, but that particular MC 275 that my buddies dad (some kind of engineer/scientist) restored and modified, is perhaps the best tube amp I’ve ever had the pleasure to hear. His dad is the one who built the custom line stage too. Ya know, let’s design and build a one of a kind killer audiophile unit just for something to do lol. They build their own bike frames too!
    So to me it’s like all this stuff, tube versus SS, analog versus digital etc, there’s not just one thing that’s best or better, if it’s done right, and you get the right synergy for your room etc, I’ve heard systems of all kinds that were amazing!

    Just a thought, yeah tube amps can be great for instruments for musical creation when you want that slightly overdriven sound (think Dead 72 before using Mac amps on the instruments), but for sound reproduction they can get tubby or muddy with perhaps too much distortion. Some people like that as it can give a richer, or warmer sound, I’m with you 1stshow, I prefer a more neutral sound, though some think that’s too dry etc?

    In the end, it just comes down to what’s best for you!

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    For a few years, I was deeply into audio: or as deeply as my meager budget would allow, anyway. It started when I realized I needed a tube amplifier. This was because I realized that I would never in a million years use a transistor amp for my guitar, so why would I use one for my home listening?

    But of course tube amps and preamps are pretty pricey, so I had to go the DIY route: I built a preamp from a kit (Bottlehead) and bought an old ST-70 power amp, and I spent a lot of time tweaking them with various upgrades. They sounded pretty good, eventually. And I needed some efficient speakers, so I paired them with some Klipsch Heresys that I got off craigslist (for $100!).

    What happened next is so typical of me it's embarrassing: the ST-70 worked great for about 10 years and then just cut out one day. By this time, I had forgotten all the various rewirings and component upgrades etc I had done, and lost all my paperwork. So I had no idea how to troubleshoot it! Couldn't even find my volt meter! I decided to just sell the ST-70 for a couple hundred, get myself a used Sansui Au-417 (since they're reputed to have a tube-like sound, also a great phono stage), put all new caps in there, and call it day. So after all that I'm back to transistors. Sounds pretty good, though.

    Somewhat bemused to read the travails of my fellow heads who ordered the MSG set via Rhino and are now working through the delays and shipping mishaps. I didn't get the box set (early '80s are just not my era) but I went for the 3 CD breakout. Ordered it from Bezos and received on the day it was released. What a concept! I'm glad to have it, it's a good performance, but disappointed in the mix. It's all Jerry and Brent, Bob's guitar is completely (and I mean completely) inaudible, Phil and the drummers much too low. But you can hear Jerry great, and it's a high energy show so probably most people will really dig it. Still, I hope the rest of the box is better, for everybody's sake.

    Five for the universe:

    John Coltrane: Coltrane
    GOGD: Dick's Picks 36 (yow!!!)
    Joe Henderson: Mode for Joe
    Zappa: Hot Rats
    Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

  • 1stshow70878
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    I went to separates during covid after doing some research and hearing from a collector of Heil Amt speakers that I wasn't hearing all my ESS Amt-4 floor standing speakers could do. Got an Adcom dual mono amp with 100W and 180 damping factor and was blown away like the Maxell guy. Got the other Adcom separates one at a time and noticed improvement each time. The pre-amp was better than using my old integrated amp as a pre and the digital tuner was way better than the old one. All are late 80s MOSFET stuff and fully restored they are still way cheaper than either vintage premier like Oro's McIntosh or 10x cheaper than modern audiophile. Just got to find a reliable restorer. They were the bargain audiophile brand BITD and made in USA. Very neutral coloring which some don't like but it's better to hear it exactly as it was made and play with the tone controls if you want different. Diminishing returns to go higher but I would have if the money was there. All in I spent maybe $700 and it sounds good to me. The bonus was I got a bedroom system from the old stuff, just have to add some speakers.

    Ten days to get my 3 CD MSG from CA to CO doesn't sound very innovative. Mail Innovations, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, adds almost 500 more miles to the route that would have gotten to me two to three days earlier had UPS shortcut Mail Innovations and delivered it straight from the handoff point only 60 miles away. Bad for the customer and bad for the planet. Should be here tomorrow. Oh well, as Neil says, "don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning".
    Cheers

    Edit: I find it interesting that folks are going back to valves, or tubes, especially in the pre-amp. I was advised to go with a hybrid solid state/tube pre-amp but stick with a solid state amp to get the benefit of the "warm" tube sound without the big bucks of the tube amp. But the hybrids were beyond my budget even used/restored as they are a newer thing. Wish my family had kept my Dad's old home built Heathkit tube amp. Would love to have heard that again.

  • dmcvt
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    Thanks Oro, a wealth of helpful information. AJS, there with you, floor standing wise, found a pair of 1986 Klipsch Cornwall IIs, 3 foot tall, 2 foot wide, 16" deep. Horn loaded tweeters and mid range, 15" woofers. They sound incredible for 35 year olds. Was driving them with an Onkyo receiver, one of the high end spec models for a long time and was happy. Eventually hooked up a power amp/pre amp combo and was surprised how much improvement... like Oro said. The power supply on the amp is huge, output rated at 150 watts per channel so a very efficient speaker like Klipsch has no stress, there is so much headroom. The damping factor as well important, a measure of how effectively (tightly) the amp controls bass response. When damping factor number is large, bass is well defined with detail and timbre, not boomy muddy. Whatever sub anyone might be using, not much useful response below 18-20Hz, as it's exponentially demanding to get lower, subsonic. The octobass and piano lowest notes are A0, about 27hz, Pipe organ low note is C0, 16 Hz. Except there's this thing called a rotary woofer that can go down to single Hz numbers at hideous expense, IMAX theater only? I would love to see and buy a 1968 NW tour box. Meanwhile, hoping Forensic Doc will let us know how it goes, we know he's in the Jacksonville area.

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    Mr Ones - great band, Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets. I saw them just before covid, and was supposed to be going again in 2020-but... That dvd/blu ray disc of them live is worth getting, too.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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This is a great release! Really enjoying this one so far. Great music, great era, recording from Bear. Amazing .

My copy arrived last Friday, a couple days before the shipping notice. First time that's happened in a while.

I've just listened to the first 2 discs so far. I enjoyed it all. Dark Star is a definite highlight. I really enjoy this Good Lovin and the other Pigpen songs. I'll also go ahead and say that I like that the 11-2 show doesn't have a Lovelight. Landing in Death Don't Have no Mercy is a nice change up.
This pick could have been the lead pick for the subscription.

Anyhow. Enjoying this one. Hope you all have your copies and have some space to listen. Cheers.

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Watched 2 episodes last night.
A few months ago I bought the series on DVD, factory sealed 2013 version, discounted from the 2013 price.
Am working my way through in order, watching a couple episodes per week (am on season 3).
No commercials is great.

In the 90’s I preferred the Simpsons over Seinfeld, but recorded both on VCR to watch later.
When Seinfeld started I didn’t think it was very funny (and now that I have the DVD’s, it gets funnier in season 3), but later started watching it.

Larry David wrote a lot of it and there is bonus material on the DVD’s where Larry explains it starting with the pilot, and then freaking out about having to come up with 12 episodes for season 1, then 21 episodes for season 2.

I didn’t have HBO and only saw 1 or 2 episodes of Curb, which seemed pretty funny.
Have Hulu now and watch Only Murders In The Building which is pretty funny.

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I grew up on All in the Family and The Jefferson's. I idolized George Jefferson in grade school and I tried to mimic his walk. I also was huge Speed Racer fan although those episodes were in syndication by the mid 70s. As an adult I came to appreciate MASH, but I didn't watch it at the time.

Speaking of adult years, Married with Children stands out, along Firefly, Futurama, Family Guy, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and The Office. I am a serious an Office fanatic.

Also I have found the Netflix shows Stranger Things and Cobra Kai to be enjoyable and plus The Orville which is on Hulu. The Orville in particular has turned out to be surprisingly good show- even if it is Star Trek rip off.

Thankfully many of these shows are available through streaming platforms or I have purchased the DVD sets. They are classics to me and I can't get enough of them. That's what she said.

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....I forgot about that one. Edgy for the times. I always thought Al had a pretty nice house for being a shoe salesman. And yes, I had a major crush on Kelly Bundy.

I saw Jerry Seinfeld at a small venue called Giggles in Seattle in 89 or 90. I remember him referring to a new show he was involved in called "The Seinfeld Chronicles".

The show became kind of a big deal...

"The best, Jerry! The best!"

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I actually met and chatted with Seinfeld at the Improv in LA back in 1991. He was surprisingly very friendly and I say surprisingly because he seems to have a reputation of not being very nice. That wasn’t my experience though…..

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....with that being said, "Where's my Dark Stars!!"
Ok. I'm good now.
Bought a ticket for Weir & Wolf Bros today. We're not getting any younger.

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I knew some people here would have the scoop on it. I'm going to read through that shortly. Loved the first few paragraphs where they say the Dead jammed with Terry Kath of Chicago once too. He was a great guitarist.

As long as people are commenting on TV shows, I'm going to list some of my favorite streamed ones, on Amazon Prime or Netflix. I like it when people introduce me to good new ones, so here's a partial list of some of mine, both streamed and TV shows.

Dexter
Sopranos
The Americans
Person of Interest
Bloodline
Boardwalk Empire
Animal Kingdom
24
The Man in the High Castle
Goliath
Lupin
Lillyhammer
Sneaky Pete
Homeland
Rockford Files
Burn Notice
The Mentalist
Breaking Bad

Happy Days
Laverne & Shirley
Mork & Mindy
Kudos to frosted re; Rockford Files. Wow.
Breaking Bad is on my list.
But I like me some anime as well. Only so many hours in the day.
Remember CHiPS? Or Emergency!? Fantasy Island? Or the Six Million Dollar Man?
I could go on and on. Memories are tight!

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Holy Cow

What a stunner. I can see why this one pulled Frosted out from retirement.

I started with 12/26 and worked backwards to 11/2. I wanted to ease into it with the acoustic first set show. Setting Bears Choice aside, this release has the best sounding 1970(69) acoustic set that's been released. 5/15 is good this sounds better.

Then we get to the electric stuff. Both Dark Stars are stupendous. Really monumental achievements. All three discs are top notch Grateful Dead. The Death Don't Have No Mercy to close off the November show just drives the whole release home to me.

It's a classic. Stunningly good.

Maybe Bears Choice simply referred to the reels he set aside in Banana Boxes. We should be calling this Bear's Choice Volume 2.

Wowwow stuff

Now what do we have to do to get some goddamn 1968? Bear's Choice Vol. 3??

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Monk, was a great T.V. show.

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And it went like this (ahem):

"I'd rather be in some dark hollow,
Where the sun don't ever shine..."

No idea why. Hardly ever listen to it, but always enjoy it. Something told me to go with the Three From The Vault version. I guess it was too low tempo to keep in the set. Good stuff though. It's nice to have the rare ones once in awhile. Ladies in Gentlemen is the only other electric option in the officially released column. So I left 3FTV on, and rediscovered this particular version of Smokestack Lightning. After the Felt Forum version came out a few years ago, I left this one by the curb - and Jerry's slide guitar chops with it. I'm not sure if he pulls out the 'ol bottleneck on the Felt version. It's the big instrumental jam with Keith's piano work that always comes ti mind with the Felt rendering.

Jimmy - I had a chuckle at your retirement joke with Frosted. This Forum with all the "Board Heads" is a nice way to start the day (all the safer for the working from home gig I've enjoyed since Covid).

Frosted - thanks for the show recommendations. Some I've seen but others I'll try, since it's always tough to decide based on the descriptions from Netflix. The Man in the High Castle was really cool. I just recently watched a German production with English overdubs called Dark. I passed over this for a few years because it sounded like old sci-fi horror trope, but it ended up being completely different.

Vguy - when I saw Emergency! on your list, I thought SWAT would be close behind :D

Hats off to Dave Lemieux once again. Imagine the parallel universe where there's an uninitiated Warner exec picking shows at random for this series. A world without Seaside Chats and untamed wildlife swooping in-picture. DL knows his Dead. I wonder how high we'll get? I'm hoping for at least 100.

You forgot Adam 12.

I had a Planet of the Apes lunchbox in 1st grade, it was pretty cool.
By 2nd grade I thought that brown paper lunch bags were cooler and went with those.

Was in 2nd or 3rd grade when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and had my mind blown.
I remember when my next door neighbors went to the drive-in to see the new movie called Jaws.
And to think that while I was a little kid back then some people on this board were already going to shows. Guess that makes you guys old now. :(

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Anyone else feel like the Lovelight on 12/26 is exceptional? I like my Lovelights in the 15 minute range, with one of those soft doot-doot-doo sections before the big ending. I have trouble getting through the big 30 minute performances, though they were no doubt crowd pleasers in person.

Icecrmcnkd - Close Encounters, 5 years old, in the theater. Nightmares about the alien visit in the beginning with the toys all coming to life and the spooky colored lights coming in under doors and through keyholes.

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Yes, the optimum length of Lovelight is around the 15 minute mark for me too. I wondered, when this Pick was announced ,with a fair portion of Pigpen on the menu, if that meant a couple of 30 minute Lovelights were part of the deal. Thinking of Road Trips Vol 4 no. 1, Big Rock Pow Wow shows from 69, where the first disc ends with a 30min.59sec Lovelight, and the second disc opens with 27min-25 sec version. That's fighting talk.

Just saw that Little Feat is playing Seattle tomorrow 8/6, will be playing Waiting For Columbus in its entirety.
Yes, not the same band, but if tix are cheap and you need something to do on a Saturday night….

....there is a reggae fest tomorrow night at downtown Vegas. The Dirty Heads, SOJA, Tribal Seeds and The Elovaters. Forty bucks. Going with some friends but unfamiliar with any of these bands. Any of you peeps wanna chime in?
Current listening. Little Feats comeback Let It Roll album.

TV & Movies - there were movie quotes going around a week or two ago. I always thought this one was hilarious, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball" as delivered by Rip Torn.

Back to your previously scheduled Eleven>Death Don't Have No Mercy.

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Yep seeing feets in 2 months from now in hometown. Havent seen them since 1991 (?) when they opened for the Allman Brothers. Was a great show.

Man miss Jer during these days between.

Also miss greatly Lowell George.

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Not so much retirement for me here as a hiatus I suppose. I had real trouble getting past the CAPTCHA awhile back, and I know I was doing it right, so I just vacated for some time until 43 caught my attention. Lately (well, for decades really) I've been mostly focused on jazz and classical listening, but a good old Grateful Dead jam and their live improv magic gets me every time.

Vguy, when I was in college a group of us used to come back from the dorm cafeteria and catch MASH and the Rockford files back to back most weeknights while we recovered from the three day old poison they served up. Lots of good guest actors on Rockford - Tom Selleck got his start there as a bumbling detective who regularly outfoxed Rockford, and Isaac Hayes had a role where he used to call him Rockfish all the time. James Garner was a pretty captivating character, and his dad Rocky. Funny stuff.

Interesting to see a new Little Feat back in action. I've probably mentioned it here in the past, but seeing them around 1977/78 or so with Lowell George at the height of the Waiting for Columbus era is still one of my top 3 or 4 rock shows.

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Caught Little Feat in Denver in fall '77 and man, did Lowell George blow the roof off the old shed (McNichols Arena), coming on the heels of an Oct '77 GD show in the same joint, which was good, but not one of their best. That was a month after Englishtown when we fried pretty deeply.

And as one of the vocal proponents of the GREASE, I too prefer the tighter Lovelights. Pig's extended raps work much like drum solos, in that if you were there, it's kinda fun, rousing stuff, but on tape long after the fact, Pig's rap can detract from the energy. I can't pinpoint which Lovelight it is, but somewhere along the line, when Pigpen yelled "WAIT A MINUTE!" to his bandmates, which formerly got them into a stop-time or background simmer for his extended rap, the rest of the band just ignored him and jammed out the song. Just that little detail reveals much about the band and their relationships. The band very much got into backing Pig, as it allowed them a different space to work in, vamping and such, but if Pig got carried away, they'd just blow him off and take it where they wanted to. What a band!

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Close encounters, age 11, no fear, but I did think that it looked really cool to make a scale model of Devils Tower out of mashed potatoes or a basement full of dirt. Alien, age 13, in a cold sweat watching that movie in the theater. Everything about that movie freaked me out, from the alien clamping on to the dude's face, to the alien busting out of his gut, to the partial views of the alien as it grew, to the dim lighting and the rest. Can't think of another movie that engendered that much fear in some deep, atavistic portion of my mind.

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....right there with you charlie3. i saw Alien at a sleepover at a friends house when HBO first started. I was maybe 12? Scared the fuck out of us. Today, it is a top 5 movie for me. Pretty much the perfect movie imo. I watch it at least once a year. Check out the directors cut if you haven't already. Fun fact. The casts reaction during the chestburster scene was genuine. Ridley Scott didn't tell them what was going to happen. Genius.
Movie holds up extremely well. As does the 1983 The Thing. Another pretty much perfect horror movie.

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Just watched the Thing, the Kurt Russel version from the '80s, recently for the first time and that is a great movie. I've been watching some classic movies from the '70's and '80s over the last year or so, and the Thing was a highlight, way exceeded my expectations. Watched Jaws for the first time this week, and it was ok, but really don't see how it justified all the hype.

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....when I was a teenager. Mom and Dad got a little concerned lol.
Have you checked out the Evil Dead movies? All three are legit.
You just checked out Jaws for the first time?? Wow.

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Well Dang, I didn't realize Feats was playing at The Moore, hell I'd see Backstreet Boys at The Moore! Got plans with daughter, but if anyone goes you can prob find a copy on archive after.....

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Blair Witch Project
The Wickerman (from early 70s, not the Nicholas Cage tripe)

Some hate on BWP, but it got to me reeeeeal good.

As did Wickerman

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Take your daughter to Little Feat!

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I saw LF open for ABB 11-29-91 at The Palace, Friday after Thanksgiving.
I think that Spacebro was there too.

I need to see if there are SBD’s of that show torrenting around. Believe that I’ve checked before, but will check again.

Hey, turns out that there is a featbase-dot-net with setlists.

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Thank you for the notification

Jerry played the Moore in 76

I wasn't there though

The bus was still 6 years from my destined boarding

A beautiful day in Seattle today (as always...smug smug)

X and Psychedelic Furs at the zoo meadow Sunday

X is an old, dear friend

Psychefurs a pleasant dessert

X opens for them when it should be the other way 'round ahem ahem

Regardless, it'll be fun

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Listen to a lot of Grateful Dead, watched Dawn of the Dead (70s version), watched Dawn of the Dead (2004 remake), watched a few seasons of Walking Dead, watched the early seasons of Fear the Walking Dead, but I've never seen any of the Evil Dead movies.

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My all time favorite remains:

“The issue here is not that we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests. We did.”

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The movie? Said by Donald Sutherland as Hawkeye?
Cheers

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....but it's been out for delivery since Monday. Time to visit the post office tomorrow it seems. My UPS email linq keeps pushing the delivery date to the next day every evening.
Tomorrow Never Knows.
So many good lines in M.A.S.H. Could you imagine a show with a black character nicknamed Spearchucker today?
Took a bit of a dip when Ferret Face left imo, but still top notch writing throughout the run. Good job 1stshow. It was right there in in the front of my cerebral cortex.
Spinning the '67 offering from TTATS aka Boxilla.

had some awesome lines.

The Army-Navy game episode with an unexploded bomb in the middle of the compound. Hawkeye and Trapper are sent out to defuse it. Henry is reading the instructions over a bullhorn from a bunker.

“Carefully clip the wires . . . leading to the clockwork fuse at the head.”

Hawkeye snips the wires.

“But first, remove the fuse.”

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adedhed68. Its the Tim Matheson character who is defending the frat at the hearing.
Well done.

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....still. I could see Hawkeye saying that.
Animal House is also great.
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
One of my favorite M.A.S.H scenes is when Trapper and Hawkeye dig a huge hole outside the Swamp when Burns is still sleeping then fill it with water and sound an air raid siren.
I hope I don't need to tell you what happens next.
Edit. I just got a notification from Netflix that The Sandman is up and running. A great DC/Vertigo comic series born by Neil Gaiman that I never thought would be translated to the screen. I have 14 comic book long boxes from my comic book collecting daze. To quote Flounder, "This is gonna be great!" I hope you're right Flounder.

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Frank burns was such a great, and annoying character. Hot lips told burns she would tell Donald about burns including his butt along with hers, and ferret face mocks loudly "I'll tell Donald, I'll tell Donald."

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Just finished listening to the last disc of the "Waiting for Columbus" 8 CD box. The original album is well burned into the brain of every Feat fan, but the 3 live shows (Manchester UK, The Rainbow, London and Lisner Auditorium, Washington) that are added to this release are all really good and varied enough to warrant release. I can highly recommend this to any fence-sitters. There is so much energy in the performances and the band are really tight. They played 4 nights at The Rainbow and I was fortunate enough to have been present at one of them. I don't remember which one, but it wasn't the show where Mick Taylor put in an appearance and it wasn't the below par show where Lowell George and Paul Barrère were suffering hangovers so there is a 50% chance that it was the show in this box that I witnessed. That show will always be right up there amongst the best shows I ever saw. I was surprised at how rotund Lowell George was at that time, but he could still tear it up.

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I was surprised at how rotund most Americans were when I went. I believe they watch a lot of telly. Or whatever's taken the place of telly.

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We eat a loooooot of high fat, refined food.

Yesterdays dinner: takeout fried chicken tenders with mac and cheese on the side.

I have lost about 17 pounds over the past year, but still eat a lot of chunk fare.

Look at pix of people in the 1930s and 40s, 50s, even 60s. Slender.

Then came the 70s and the weight was piling on.

Oh yes, lots of sedentary time in front of screens, too.

It beats starvation, I will say that.

I think I'll go for a walk

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I’m no longer a vinyl buyer for various reasons, but I know a number of posters here are. An interesting article in the Washington Post entitled “How a Phoenix record store owner set the audiophile world on fire/ MoFi Records claimed its expensive reissues were purely analog reproductions. It had been deceiving its customer base for years.” some may find interesting, how basically a label that prides itself as issuing direct from Masters (at a premium price) have actually been using Digital mastering. Deceptive. I personally have thought the new wave of vinyl is an overpriced racket, and this plays into that.

As I’m by no means an expert I’ll let the jazz engineer giant Rudy Van Gelder speak to it: “From 1999, he remastered the analog Blue Note recordings he made several decades earlier into 24-bit digital recordings in its RVG Edition series.[15] He was positive about the switch from analog to digital technology. He told Audio magazine in 1995:
The biggest distorter is the LP itself. I've made thousands of LP masters. I used to make 17 a day, with two lathes going simultaneously, and I'm glad to see the LP go. As far as I'm concerned, good riddance. It was a constant battle to try to make that music sound the way it should. It was never any good. And if people don't like what they hear in digital, they should blame the engineer who did it. Blame the mastering house. Blame the mixing engineer. That's why some digital recordings sound terrible, and I'm not denying that they do, but don't blame the medium.”

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Interesting post on the analog v digital sound debate. I have a few of the Rudy Van Gelder Edition jazz releases and the sound is consistently excellent. Since he is responsible for both the initial recording and the digital remastering, the sound quality of the recording is pretty much entirely attributable to his skill at both stages of the process, so pretty interesting to see his take on the debate. When I am browsing for new jazz to pick up, it always makes me take notice if I see that something is an RVG Edition.

Just so happens that last night I listened for the first time to Little Feat 9-19-74 Electrif Lycanthrope vinyl, with the signal running out the turntable’s USB cable, into a Mac, and then digitally recorded by Audacity. The signal then went out a USB port and into a Cambridge Audio DAC Magic 100 (digital to analog converter) and then to a Cambridge Audio AXR100 receiver.
So, went vinyl>analog>digital>analog and it sounded great.
I digitize all my vinyl as I listen to it and wil eventually (when I learn how to use the software) process the files and export as 24/96 FLAC for use on music players. My vinyl will thus be ‘portable’.

I only started buying vinyl when 2-27-69 was released (now have 2/28 and 3/1 too). These all say Plangent Process on them whereas the FW69 Box does not (I don’t have the physical CD’s but was told that the Box does not say Plangent) which would imply that the reels were re-digitized using Plangent (assuming that a tape player device like shown on the Plangent website was used, rather than just taking the digital files from 2005 and processing them in some way).

Some vinyl, like 5-8-77, just sound like the CD was copied to vinyl.
But 11-10-67 sounds better on vinyl than CD to me.
I didn’t buy the Lyceum vinyl box but often try to get the RSD releases. Vinyl takes up a lot of space and I’m rethinking whether I should keep buying vinyl. But, I’m already contemplating getting Waiting For Columbus on vinyl, since I’m going to get the CD Box.

I’ve been upgrading my stereo system to Cambridge Audio as my Onkyo stuff stops working. Two years ago my Onkyo receiver died and I replaced it with an AXR100. The sound quality improvement was instantly noticeable.
Over the last several months my Onkyo 6-disc CD changer has been having dropouts, but when I rewind and play the same part there wouldn’t be a dropout, so the CD wasn’t defective. Bought a laser cleaner but that didn’t fix the problem, so I started looking at a new player.

Decided to get the DAC Magic 100 first since I put all my CD’s in ALAC format and onto microSDXC cards for use on portable music players. One of my players that I use with the stereo, iBasso DX120, has a port and cable for connection to a DAC where the DX120 acts as a transport (reads the digital file and transports the 1’s and 0’s to the DAC). The sound quality improvement with the DAC was instantly noticeable, so totally worth the investment.

My Onkyo 6-disc changer has 2 digital out ports, so I was able to simultaneously connect it directly to the AXR100 receiver, and connect it to the DAC which then connects to the AXR100 with analog stereo cables. By switching the source buttons on the AXR100 I could hear the CD that was playing through 2 different pathways and the DAC Magic source definitely sounded better.

The AXR100 has gone up $200 since I bought mine 2 years ago, so started thinking that if I wait until my Onkyo 6-disc changer dies, I might pay more for a replacement CD player than if I buy one now. So I bought a Cambridge Audio AXC35 CD player and, again, there was a noticeable improvement in sound quality (worth it to give up the convenience of a 6-disc changer). I run the CD player directly to the receiver with analog stereo cables but it is also possible to run a digital connection to the DAC. Both ways sound excellent.

So, equipment does matter. I’m very pleased with Cambridge Audio and the slightly higher price over brands like Onkyo, Sony, etc is worth it.
I’ve heard and read that early CD’s often sounded worse than cassettes because the record companies would half-ass the digital mastering. So digital got a bad reputation. Also, DAC’s matter and cheap CD players probably have a cheap DAC. Phones have cheap DAC’s too.
The Normanized CD’s that we are getting now sound spectacular, and yet they sound even better with my new stereo set up.

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I also have some of the RVG jazz releases in my collection, and I have always found the sound first rate, and you raise a good point Charlie - Van Gelder both engineered the original recording, as well as the RVG remastering.

I have only limited MoFi (Mobile Fidelity) in my CD collection, as I don’t collect vinyl, such as a Burrito album or two, and some non-music releases from The Firesign Theatre, so I can’t say definitively they sound “better”, and if the vinyl is vastly superior, but based on this disclosure of digital copying by the company, I’d have to say they have somewhat “exaggerated” the fidelity quality. I noticed yesterday they were re-releasing some Eagles albums under the MoFi label on CD, at an extremely premium price, ie - two and half times the regular price of the “regular” CD. Will it sound two and half times “better”? Hmmm.

Buyer beware. And with vinyl, I would be extremely wary.

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First time used was the Winterland 73 Box.

FW was a multi track release.

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Yes, yes it does lol.

Format wars: people are once again conned into a us versus them scenario.
I mean there is nothing that folks haven’t turned into a binary situation, yeeesshhk.
So as a long time audiophile and geek, my 2 cents is they both can sound amazing (analog/Digital) if they’ve been done properly and using the right equipment. How it’s done is more important then which way!

I’ve heard systems of both formats worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Conclusion, the ones that were done properly sounded amazing, regardless of format. The systems that weren’t amazing, even with big price tags = bad equipment synergy and not doing things properly. I’ve heard modest systems done extremely well that blow away super expensive systems that weren’t done right!

The biggest problem with digital, both now and ever, is conversion! Yes those other variables are very important, but the biggest factor in digital, and why it received most of its negative prejudice, involves conversion.
Much of this negativity started with most/many? of the initial CD releases at the dawn of the format.
Ignorance about how important conversion is (hey it’s just ones and zeros right, NOT!, combined with a race to get product out and beat the competition etc fostered an unfortunate environment, that resonates negative discontent to this day.
By not using the actual masters, and outdated and often improper conversion, the result is a ridiculous amount of CDs that sound horrible!
Add to this that most people use equipment with DAC sets that cost mere pennies to do the most import process in the playback chain, and it’s no wonder so many people don’t like digital.

Fortunately, there have been amazing advances in DACs (both A to D and D to A conversion), digital mastering, digital recording etc, and more importantly, in research and knowledge.
In some cases these advancements are as big as the jump from Standard def to High def video etc.
But outside of our geek circles the vast majority of the public knows (or seems to care) nothing about this. For many the damage has been done psychologically due to the original shortsightedness and idiosyncrasies discussed above.

So it’s refreshing to see someone like Conekid trying to take proper steps to improve his musical experience.
Imho, a DAC can be the biggest little thing you can do. Even an inexpensive Audio Quest Dragonfly with a phone or iPod can often make a good improvement of even the most modest equipment. Of course the Achilles heel of audio electronics is synergy between components and of course ones listening room can be the biggest factor of all. Since you won’t ever know for sure what will play nice with what etc, it can be hard to get the most out of your whole system. So you might have to try different things, but audio nirvana is achievable, and you don’t have to spend a fortune if you do your research and with trial and error you’ll learn what works for you, because that’s the biggest factor of all! All the rest can be important and make a difference, but regardless of hype, price, trends, bottom line, does it sound good to you! You may have cheap garbage, but if you really like how it sounds, that’s what matters!

If your not fully satisfied, try to really analyze what you don’t like, be as specific as possible. Then first research possible issues you can diy: improper use, and acoustic idiosyncrasies you might be able to address. Don’t just run out and buy something!!
Don’t just get swayed by upgrade fever. I have a C40 pre amp that’s probably 40 years old. I can get a new one at cost. I’ve gone round and round, but generally like many features on mine, that a new one won’t have.
So after I realized via my ole buddy BOO469 that all I had was upgrade fever, I’ve stayed with my ole trusty pre.
If you know exactly what you don’t like, and if there’s nothing you can rectify acoustically, or perhaps electricity, then pin point what part of your chain could benefit the most from upgrading.
Then take the time to research, and if possible try out stuff before you just throw money at it.
Like anything else, an educated consumer has a better chance of being satisfied!

Same is true with analog, but different set of equations. Since I put my big chips into a digital system, I’m familiar with overall analog practices, but would not make any specific suggestions due to very limited hands on experience of tge medium. I’d say look closely at your phono preamp type etc,.
Anyway, sorry to ramble, told ya I was a geek!
What ever your rocking, hopefully your able to maximize your ability to PLAY DEAD!

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