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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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September 29, 2022 - 12:29pm

#281

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

Doc

I was concerned, glad to hear you are well. Southwest of you I'm concerned, I still have friends in central florida, my mother lives down there (93 yrs old) but also dodged the main bullet, waiting for others to contact me. Mini vay kay play dead
September 29, 2022 - 12:24pm

#282

dmcvt

Joined:
April 4, 2013

thanks, Doc

Good to hear you and yours safe and sound. Thoughts go out to FL friends (so far, all good) and all who were so near the path. Almost at 1972 here, streaming the early December 1971 run at mini-MSG Felt Forum. A gloriously bright sunny Vermont day, fall foliage coming on, first frost tonight. Will pull the last peppers, tomatoes and basil out now.
September 29, 2022 - 12:14pm

#283

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Oro Approved

Love it! The Ess Amt-4 is a two-way with the slightly smaller Heil Air Motion Transformer and a 10" woofer rated 20W to 250W. They are 4 ohm, 45hz-24Khz, with the x-over at 1000hz, and called the sleeper in their killer line up from BITD. The best thing they have going is that Amt which delivers clear beautiful highs and solid mids in all directions from an open top design. Easy placement that way too. Look up their big boys, ESS Amt-1s and their Towers (I forget the number), well respected and still fetch four figure prices as parts units which tells you a lot. The Amt itself is indestructible and lifetime warranted. Mine had a solid pure pulp cone on that 10" which I have had to replace with a set of Misco, made in Minneapolis, Oaktron 10" from their Heritage line made to replace the similar stuff in all the brands from BITD. Same pure pulp cone and big voice coils and magnets but in a stamped steel frame just like the originals. Spec at 16-4000hz and 92 db efficiency.
Got the ESSs cheap when almost new in 1977 from a college roomy who couldn't manage to get them back home to Cincy without a car. But then when the cat put a hole in one of the woofers in the 90s I replaced the originals with what I thought would be an upgrade but I screwed up. Bought subs that were 8-ohms by Pyramid, Super Pro Super Blue, made by Eminence in US ( Kentucky?) famous for their instrument speakers for bass and guitar. Great deal from a car audio shop going out of business and they took my torn ones in trade as well. As you know, that 8-ohm mistake changed the x-over to 2000hz and I traded off some midrange for killer, punchy bottom end which I thought at the time was good. Found out about five years ago that I screwed up and got the Miscos for about what I sold the now valuable subs for. Fit like a glove which no one who tried that swap with the only available 10" direct from ESS could do as all they sold was the big boy 10" from other higher models with a cast aluminum frame that required sawing into your cabinets just to make it fit. Found that out on Audio Karma luckily from others trying to do the same replacement on their various ESS. A couple of those guys used Dayton woofers to good effect but I went with Misco as their specs were a perfect match to original, hence original sound. Was not going to try to mess with upgrading as I might have had to upgrade the x-over too and taking a saw to the cabinets was out of the question. SO, long story longer, I got my midrange back and Phil bombs sound better than ever! Not bad for a novice hack job since I have zero skills with electricity or carpentry. Not even interested in a sub really. Pretty small living room and I want to keep peace in the neighborhood. Anytime you upgrade there is a leap of faith that the money you're spending will get the result you're after so I got lucky in all this I'd say. Some with a little more dinero are switching stuff all the time but you don't know unless you go. I certainly was OK with all my 70s stuff but you get used to your sound and don't realize how much better it can be until you go there. Thanks Oro.
Cheers
September 29, 2022 - 11:52am

#284

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Doc

I wish your last statement was true - but I suspect that the selfish behaviour of the powerful will have long lasting negative consequences for years to come.
September 29, 2022 - 11:45am

#285

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
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Most anyplace one lives is essentially dangerous......

For all those who asked, or were concerned...............

The Gillespie household is doing fine. So far, we've only lost power for about 45 minutes, but it's back on now. We've only caught the "tropical storm" part of Ian, but I have heard that potentially, this may be the deadliest hurricane to ever hit Florida. We now live in Green Cove Springs, about 30 miles southeast of Jax, safely away from the beach, the St John's River, and Black Creek. We're in a newish house, on high ground, have lots of food and water, and have an excellent generator. The St Augustine area is getting badly flooded........

The strongest hurricane to ever hit Florida was the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, sustained winds of 180+ mph when it hit. There is a lovely--and moving----monument in the Keys to the hundreds who lost their lives in that storm. I've visited that site many many times while I lived down there. The deadliest? Probably the same hurricane, the exact toll is unknown, but probably in the hundreds.......

For Matthew, we evacuated. For Irma, we hunkered down and rode out the storm. For a hurricane, either get out early, or be prepared to ride it out. I reassured my wife, "No matter what comes, we'll ride it out together".

Out of an abundance of caution, my office is closed today and tomorrow, and I don't work this weekend. A "mini-vacation" of sorts. Now that the power is back, I'm actually busy spreading 1972 Lyceum shows around. Some things never change, hurricane be damned!!

Here we dodged a bullet, yet I pray for those in harm's way on the Gulf coast...............

Stay safe, and rock on,

Doc
What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal......
September 29, 2022 - 11:24am

#286

Oroborous

Joined:
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Well said 1stshow

Don’t think I’ve heard of the ESS Amt 4s, looked them up, interesting, do you use a sub with them?
And you refreshed my memory about adcom so I looked into that brand a little too.
Interesting video comparing Adcom and NAD to contemporary Schiit audio.

Almost bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC before I got my Meitner. For like 22-23 hundred bucks they sound as good as many DACs costing many thousands more! Schiit makes simple but value friendly great sounding products, or at least the ones I’ve heard.
But yeah, NAD and Adcom, same idea, BITD budget friendly but great sounding gear. Sounds like a sweet little system!

Hybrid stuff. I’ve heard some sweet sounding hybrid stuff at audio shows.
Of course Jer Bear had a hybrid system utilizing a Fender Twin Tube amp for his pre and a SS MC2300 power amp and we all know how great that sounded and perhaps why he never changed his backend!
I would say if your going to try hybrid go tube pre and SS power…
My best recollection was with my buddy who started YFS and built my custom Ref 3 server: had an amazing sounding system one year at RMAF using YFS server, Meitner DAC, Custom made fully analog pre (tube?) biamped with one of the best sounding MC 275 tube amps on the highs, and a 200 per McIntosh solid state amp on the lows (don’t recall the model), powering some Von Schweikert audio stand speakers. I thought the sound and imaging of this system, even in the shitty little hotel room sounded as good or better than much bigger and expensive systems there that year.
Just can’t describe what a big clean sound this relatively small system produced! Of course for the price of the system it should! Lol.

I think it’s like everything else: trial and error and if it’s done right it can be a plus!
I’ve never had tube stereo gear, but I’ve heard some great stuff, but that particular MC 275 that my buddies dad (some kind of engineer/scientist) restored and modified, is perhaps the best tube amp I’ve ever had the pleasure to hear. His dad is the one who built the custom line stage too. Ya know, let’s design and build a one of a kind killer audiophile unit just for something to do lol. They build their own bike frames too!
So to me it’s like all this stuff, tube versus SS, analog versus digital etc, there’s not just one thing that’s best or better, if it’s done right, and you get the right synergy for your room etc, I’ve heard systems of all kinds that were amazing!

Just a thought, yeah tube amps can be great for instruments for musical creation when you want that slightly overdriven sound (think Dead 72 before using Mac amps on the instruments), but for sound reproduction they can get tubby or muddy with perhaps too much distortion. Some people like that as it can give a richer, or warmer sound, I’m with you 1stshow, I prefer a more neutral sound, though some think that’s too dry etc?

In the end, it just comes down to what’s best for you!
September 29, 2022 - 10:32am

#287

Crow Told Me

Joined:
October 15, 2020

There and Back Again

For a few years, I was deeply into audio: or as deeply as my meager budget would allow, anyway. It started when I realized I needed a tube amplifier. This was because I realized that I would never in a million years use a transistor amp for my guitar, so why would I use one for my home listening?

But of course tube amps and preamps are pretty pricey, so I had to go the DIY route: I built a preamp from a kit (Bottlehead) and bought an old ST-70 power amp, and I spent a lot of time tweaking them with various upgrades. They sounded pretty good, eventually. And I needed some efficient speakers, so I paired them with some Klipsch Heresys that I got off craigslist (for $100!).

What happened next is so typical of me it's embarrassing: the ST-70 worked great for about 10 years and then just cut out one day. By this time, I had forgotten all the various rewirings and component upgrades etc I had done, and lost all my paperwork. So I had no idea how to troubleshoot it! Couldn't even find my volt meter! I decided to just sell the ST-70 for a couple hundred, get myself a used Sansui Au-417 (since they're reputed to have a tube-like sound, also a great phono stage), put all new caps in there, and call it day. So after all that I'm back to transistors. Sounds pretty good, though.

Somewhat bemused to read the travails of my fellow heads who ordered the MSG set via Rhino and are now working through the delays and shipping mishaps. I didn't get the box set (early '80s are just not my era) but I went for the 3 CD breakout. Ordered it from Bezos and received on the day it was released. What a concept! I'm glad to have it, it's a good performance, but disappointed in the mix. It's all Jerry and Brent, Bob's guitar is completely (and I mean completely) inaudible, Phil and the drummers much too low. But you can hear Jerry great, and it's a high energy show so probably most people will really dig it. Still, I hope the rest of the box is better, for everybody's sake.

Five for the universe:

John Coltrane: Coltrane
GOGD: Dick's Picks 36 (yow!!!)
Joe Henderson: Mode for Joe
Zappa: Hot Rats
Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass
September 29, 2022 - 8:09am

#288

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Bang For The Buck

I went to separates during covid after doing some research and hearing from a collector of Heil Amt speakers that I wasn't hearing all my ESS Amt-4 floor standing speakers could do. Got an Adcom dual mono amp with 100W and 180 damping factor and was blown away like the Maxell guy. Got the other Adcom separates one at a time and noticed improvement each time. The pre-amp was better than using my old integrated amp as a pre and the digital tuner was way better than the old one. All are late 80s MOSFET stuff and fully restored they are still way cheaper than either vintage premier like Oro's McIntosh or 10x cheaper than modern audiophile. Just got to find a reliable restorer. They were the bargain audiophile brand BITD and made in USA. Very neutral coloring which some don't like but it's better to hear it exactly as it was made and play with the tone controls if you want different. Diminishing returns to go higher but I would have if the money was there. All in I spent maybe $700 and it sounds good to me. The bonus was I got a bedroom system from the old stuff, just have to add some speakers.

Ten days to get my 3 CD MSG from CA to CO doesn't sound very innovative. Mail Innovations, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, adds almost 500 more miles to the route that would have gotten to me two to three days earlier had UPS shortcut Mail Innovations and delivered it straight from the handoff point only 60 miles away. Bad for the customer and bad for the planet. Should be here tomorrow. Oh well, as Neil says, "don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning".
Cheers

Edit: I find it interesting that folks are going back to valves, or tubes, especially in the pre-amp. I was advised to go with a hybrid solid state/tube pre-amp but stick with a solid state amp to get the benefit of the "warm" tube sound without the big bucks of the tube amp. But the hybrids were beyond my budget even used/restored as they are a newer thing. Wish my family had kept my Dad's old home built Heathkit tube amp. Would love to have heard that again.
September 29, 2022 - 6:49am

#289

dmcvt

Joined:
April 4, 2013

AJS audio, 1968 NW, Doc11

Thanks Oro, a wealth of helpful information. AJS, there with you, floor standing wise, found a pair of 1986 Klipsch Cornwall IIs, 3 foot tall, 2 foot wide, 16" deep. Horn loaded tweeters and mid range, 15" woofers. They sound incredible for 35 year olds. Was driving them with an Onkyo receiver, one of the high end spec models for a long time and was happy. Eventually hooked up a power amp/pre amp combo and was surprised how much improvement... like Oro said. The power supply on the amp is huge, output rated at 150 watts per channel so a very efficient speaker like Klipsch has no stress, there is so much headroom. The damping factor as well important, a measure of how effectively (tightly) the amp controls bass response. When damping factor number is large, bass is well defined with detail and timbre, not boomy muddy. Whatever sub anyone might be using, not much useful response below 18-20Hz, as it's exponentially demanding to get lower, subsonic. The octobass and piano lowest notes are A0, about 27hz, Pipe organ low note is C0, 16 Hz. Except there's this thing called a rotary woofer that can go down to single Hz numbers at hideous expense, IMAX theater only? I would love to see and buy a 1968 NW tour box. Meanwhile, hoping Forensic Doc will let us know how it goes, we know he's in the Jacksonville area.
September 29, 2022 - 3:21am

#290

daverock

Joined:
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Magic Carpet Ride

Mr Ones - great band, Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets. I saw them just before covid, and was supposed to be going again in 2020-but... That dvd/blu ray disc of them live is worth getting, too.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Season of the Heart

That Season of the Heart early in the SF set is a sweet country tune. I've never heard them do it before.

43 lost in transit help

hi all, UPS has declared #43 officially lost in transit and i've had no response from customer service or escalations since reaching out last week. is there still a forum resident who can help with this type of issue???

Jcarnett

PM Marye with your order number and situation and she will help you!

Vguy, check your pm

I got your back on DP 43, if you get in a jam.

Re: Oro - Billy Situation

Probably just a function of Bill having more rigid family commitments and the perils of flying the day after Christmas.

It made for some interesting stage banter and a wicked cool acoustic set. Thanks Billy!! What a gift all these years later.

Thanks Hendrixfreak....

....we'll see.

Billy the kidd / lucky Luciano

I always wondered growing up, what would it be like, if billy the kidd met lucky Luciano in a gun fight. Even if they both had the same .40 cal. Revolvers. I used to believe lucky would win, because of the famous picture of lucky with that smirk on his face. I would have payed anything to see that shootout.

I NEED A MIRACLE !

Hope everyone is enjoying their Dave`s Picks Vol. 43...Looks like I`m left out on this one...I ordered it the day it was released, still NADA...I can`t even track the order...It say`s INCORRECT TRACKING !...I`m Guilty of being on NDN Time Myself, But this is RIDICULOUS !...I suppose us Indigenous people here in the Southwest are on the Bottom of the ``TOTEM POLE`` as some of you say...Who Knows ...Maybe It`ll get here on Columbus Day...ANYWAY...ENJOY the Music people...TOM TOM

Tom Tom

Hang in there, good man.

I bet you have it by Friday. And it will sound extra sweet.

A new coworker of mine just moved to Seattle from AZ; she says she is Navajo.

I apologize if it is rude to ask but genuine curiosity....which nation are you a member of?

Soon, TomTom....43 will arrive soon.

Livvy

I was unexpectedly saddened to hear of Olivia Newton John dying yesterday. One of the first singles I ever got was "Banks of the Ohio", in 1971. What I now know as a murder ballad, but at 14 it just seemed a great story set to music. She always looked so clean and fresh-you would be afraid to touch her unless you made a smudge.

Tom Tom - you are not alone. No sign of Dave's 43 in England, yet either. No worries - it will come. If a few more weeks pass and it doesn't, then I have every confidence that if I contact Marye everything will be copacetic.

DP 4 & 8

Saw your feedback on these two Daverock. Love them both as well....I can just imagine picking up those CDs when the archive program was young and the "legendary" shows were hitting the record stores for the first time. When I started my Dead collection, the Dick's Picks series was finished. They were the only two-tracks for sale in stores. DP 16, DP 18, and DP 20 slipped into my collection early, and I recognized the sound quality was not as good as the "non-Dick's Picks", so I stayed away from them for the most part, until I bought up all of the multitracks. But eventually my ears became used to things and I had some sound system improvements that helped.

Estimated-Eyes - also a big fan of The Eleven. Two From the Vault was one of my early acquisitions, and the song reminded me a lot of the progressive rock sound I'm into. I've listened to just about every version I can get my hands on, and 11/2 is the closest I've heard (the vocals are especially good). The night before Two From the Vault is popular, but not quite in the same league to my ears. One thing 2FTV has going for it is the 14 minute song length. Awesome stuff, both of them. One of my favorite prehiatus two-drummer tunes.

Olivia Newton John RIP. Beautiful voice. So clean and clear. Will never forget the early Physical song and video. Seemed to be on MTV and the radio all the time.

knock at the door at Mar-a-Lago

who is it?
It's me, Don, open up man I got the stuff
more knocks
who is it?
It's me Don man, open up I got the stuff
Who?
It's, Don, man. Open up, I think the feds saw me take those boxes
more knocks
Who is it?
It's, Don, man. Will you open up, I got those boxes of secret documents with me
Who?
Don man, open up
Don?
Yeah man, Don, come on open up I think the feds saw me with those boxes
Don's not here.
No man, I'm Don, man
real loud knocks on door
Hey, come on man
Who is it?
It's Don man, Will you open up? I got the boxes with me
Who?
Don man, open up
Don?
Yeah, Don
Don's not here
What the hell? no man, I'm Don will you open up
real sharp and loud banging on the door
Come on, will you open up, I got the boxes and I think the feds saw me
Who is it?
What the hell is it.... come on open the door, it's Don
Who?
Don, D-O-N will you open up the God damn door?
Don?
yeah Don
Don?
Right man Don, now will you open the door?
Don's not here
Cheech and Chong

Light at the end of the tunnel?....

....shipping update. "Arrived at post office".

The day that left a hole in the universe

Well, our universe at least.

Thanks Jerry!
And thanks to everyone who had the foresight to record as much as possible.

Dave’s 43, Where Are You?

Come on Mr/Ms Postman! Bring forth the goods!

Happy thoughts on Jerome Garcia today. Thanks for everything, Jerry.

Shout out to Jack DeJohnette at 80 years old. For those that collect jazz, this man is a rock star.

TRCKING # INCORRECT....

YUP !...That what it say`s when I enter my Tracking #....And the ``Shipping`` cost is NOT Cheap...Maybe a Refund is due ????

Now it says....

....out for delivery. Possibly receiving on 8.9. That would be something. Stay tuned!!
RIP Olivia Newton-John. Leather pants at the end of Grease. Yessir!!

TRIBE...

PROUDFOOT

Thanks for the Support....I tried getting a hold of DEAD.NET But it seems like I just get ``Auto-Response`` emails ...(So much for ``Support``), There is NO Phone # to contact anyone...So once an order is placed, You`re on your own...
My Mother was Apache from Southern Arizona. Say Yá'át'ééh to your Navajo Friend , (Apaches and Navajo`s are Related)...There are quite a few ``Deadheads`` on the Rez. here in the S.W. ...I`ve seen them here in New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Nevada...( R U Native) ?...AGAIN Thanks and Be Safe Bro,...AHO !....TOMTOM

PF - New Converter Laws

Finally passed some laws in CO and Denver separately that track all cat. converter sales. Denver's has photo ID requirements and one day reporting, CO is similar with 5 day reporting. Proudfoot isn't alone as the Prius is the biggest return for your theft at upwards of $1500 for the set. Other cars from $250 - $500. For 2 minutes work.
Article gave these stats too:
Thefts (reported) by year in Denver - 2019=14, 2020=262, 2021=2679.
Freaking dirtbags.

Hang in there Tom Tom, & Where’s Nappy?

Since it doesn’t seem like others in your area (like Vguy in Nevada) have received theirs yet, hopefully yours is just running slow. Sure the service may not always be stellar, but I think 99% of the time they eventually make it right, unfortunately you just have to be patient.
Best thing you can do is pm marye with you order # and information.

Wondering if Nappy or Strider got theirs yet? Hell I’m wondering where Nappy is?
Nappy, Hope your just busy, know you said you were going to be working a lot this summer, but we haven’t heard from you since before Red Rocks?

Two From The Vaults

Keithfan- yes, that was another early favourite of mine among archival releases. New Potato Caboose is one of the highlights on this - incredible bass. This was supposed to be coming out on vinyl again, but It's not shown up yet. Another one for the album box when it does.

RIP Lamont Dozier

Great songwriter, wrote so many Motown classics.
Now that's 3 gone within the last few days: Lamont Dozier, Olivia Newton-John and the great Judith Durham.

ONJ

Let me be there in your mornin
Let me be there in your night

Have you never been mellow

Ah childhood memories

Physical...that ish made me feel kinda funny...wink wink nudge nudge

Yall be cool ONJ

Marye

Thanks for the Support...Just Hate Paying for Full Shipping , Then it takes Forever to get here...(IF it does)...
Who and How do you get in touch with Marye ?

DP 43

I love this release!! The only time I have heard Seasons is with the NRPS Owsley Sonic Journal 5-disc release, which is the best.
This release (#43) ranks among my top 5 favorites. My #1 Dave's Pick is still #10 at the Thelma Theater, followed closely by Dick's Picks at Harpur College, and then Road Trips Big Rock PowWow and the St.Valentine's show. All of my releases are original, not Real Gone Music. BTW, what the Hell is Real Gone Music?.........do they just buy the tapes and release stuff?
I also just received the Lyceum show 4-CD release. Disc 3&4 is da bomb. I always love me some Sing Me Back Home......and an incredible TOO.
Time to light the bowl.

MARYE...

I suppose you are the Person to get in touch with concerning my CD not arriving..Anyway you can Help?...I ordered Dave's Picks waaaaaay Back on 7-13-22...10:04 am...ORDER # 137400000458713...Anyway you can Help ? The People at DEAD.NET do not respond to my emails , There is NO Phone # to talk to someone AND I don`t know who to turn to at this Point...PLEASE let me know WHEN and IF I will be receiving my CD.
Thank You .TOM-TOM

Says "package delivered"....

....will confirm in approximately three hours.
Edit. Package confirmed and #11668 is in one hand and Hendrixfreak's bomber in the other. Now to see what all the hubbub is about.
This one is for you Jerry. Such a long long time to be gone, but a short time to be there.

Random notes

Vguy, it's been about 3 hours. Hope you got your package delivered! It's time you heard it with your own two ears.

Keith, I'm a huge Eleven fan too, one of my very favorites. Can't say that I've dissected them all, but I pretty much like every one I've heard and 1969 seems to be a standout year. When it plays, I tap out 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, 10-11 to myself, along with the beat on the main riff. Something hypnotic about it, and I love the improvisation variations. The lyrics are psychobabble, but that doesn't really matter to me. The 43 version is one of the clearest vocals on it that I've heard too.

Estimated Eyes, nice post a few pages back. Enjoyed your review.

27 years ago today I was on a road trip with my girlfriend (now wife) to the Mono Rock/Kings Canyon area of the southern Sierra. We were in a grungy motel room with hideous decor in Visalia California this night in our budget days when an item came on the TV that Jerry Garcia was gone. My wife was trying to tell me something at that moment, but I shushed her right then and there so I could hear the fateful story of Jerry's passing. We were a pretty new couple at the time, and she's never let me forget the way I boldly told her to clam it for a minute so I could hear the news. But you know, some things are important.

Cheers, Jerome, and thanks for showing us the light.

Frosted....

....it's spinning now. Arrived on The Day. I still don't believe in coincidences, however....
Stay cool my man. 27 years. Nice. My wife and I are on #24 upcoming.
Awesome sunset approaching here as well. Kids in the street playing.

D P...#43

Looks like VGUY72 Got his CD Today...Looks Like I'm never getting mine...( Lost / Stolen) ?..Do you have an extra copy I can Purchase ?
I gave up on DEAD.NET...No one Contacts Me now that they got my my $$$...
THANKS ...TOM-TOM

Hey Tom_Tom....

....it will arrive. It maybe lost for a few days but definitely not stolen.
The thieves are busy with catalytic converters and the residents at mar-a-lago.
My political post for the week. Trying to be nice and somewhat neutral.
Lol. My capcha today was traffic lights. Slave to them.

Tom Tom

They often ship to subscribers first, then to ala carte buyers.
Vguy is a subscriber, lives in Vegas, and only just got his.

Still waiting……still waiting

This is by no means the longest I have waited to receive my Dave’s. I think the reason why the waiting is so hard, is because it’s such a GEM!!
Tom Tom, most of us ordered this last year. Also, Deadnet has the tracking, so when it gets down to it, they’ll be able to see where it went. I know mine will arrive, and yours will too. That kettle you’re watching is not gonna boil until you stop watching it!!
Best to all, sometimes the waiting IS the hardest part.
To be continued……

Great release

This could be one of the all-time great Dave's Picks. The music, the sound quality (and the accompanying liner notes) make for a great package.

Tom Tom

I put your order info in the User Concerns posts (under Community, Administration tabs) for Marye to see, but you may want to PM her in the Message tab after you sign in. Likely it is as others have said, they are getting these out slow and you did ala carte which go out last. It is a little weird that Gerd in Germany has his already and others in the states don't yet. Keep the faith.
Cheers

The Eleven

Hey Frosted, I don't get the lyrics either, but as long time Yes fan, I've become accustomed to abstract lyrics. That being said, I will occasionally Google song meanings if something catches my fancy.

Daverock, also my favorite New Potato Caboose (Two From The Vault). Also the first one I ever heard. I don't have too many favorites for songs (maybe a half dozen or so), but it seems the ones I do are almost always the first version I heard if the song. Franklin's Tower will always be that blazing 11 minute one from Go To Nassau. Estimated Prophet, The Wheel, and post-hiatus The Other One are from DP 18. Lovelight from 5/24/72, released as a Rockin' The Rhein bonus track. Stagger Lee & Miracle from Closing of Winterland. That may be all of them.

Revisiting DaP 42. Is it just me or is this Eyes Of The World really one of the upper echelon performances?

Keithfan

Mountains come out of the sky and they stand there

1stshow70878

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No one at DEAD.NET WANTS TO HELP...NO COMMUNICATION !,,I emailed them numerous times,,,NO RESPONSE AT ALL!...How do I PM this Marye ?...I`m not that Familiar with doing that...
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Tom Tom

If you are already signed in go to the upper right corner where your avatar (yours is a great one with the full headdress) and drop it down and pick message. From there make a message to: Marye. She will respond in that message section which you see when you sign in. Took me a couple years to find that stuff.
Cheers

Dave's #43. ala carte

I went ala carte this year, and I got #43 two weeks ago, the same day my brother got his and he's a subsciber. I live in the Bay Area.

JGB 8-10-91 vinyl

Now Garcia Family Provisions is tempting me to buy more vinyl…..

Elec at the Eel

Back in stock at JGB, Electric @ the Eel Vinyl, 3 times as much on eBay.

Not the biggest '69 fan myself (GD that is), but I will NEVER argue with a release that has a Dark Star, let alone two!

Got a text from my 20 year old nephew, just discovering the GD for himself in college, this music transcends time and people will still be listening in 50 years, we are the luckiest music fans of all time....

8-10-91 Eel email

I got the email earlier today, checked out the webpage, didn’t pull the trigger, now appears to be sold out.
That’s OK, I have the CD’s. Vinyl takes up so much space that I can’t buy everything I see, especially if I already have it on CD.

8/10/91

Thank god. I probably would have bought it, putting the savings in the college fund as I write this.

Since this thread is centered around Dave's Picks 43, and just completing my second listen. I'm leveraging my previous opinion.

This might just be the most compelling of the Dave's Picks Series to date and currently my favorite of the series. Two complete shows, remarkable recordings especially compared with other shows of the same era, fantastic performances and two really historic shows to boot. I really think it outshines #5, Pauley Pavilion 11/17/73 and that says a lot. Oh, and there's the setlist, lots of pigpen, two monumental Dark Stars and the first acoustic set they ever performed.
Bear's Choice Vol. 2

Better than Pauley?....

....that's my favorite Dave's as well. Can't make a judgement call yet regarding #43, but that Family Dog Dark Star is outstanding! And the acoustic set is 🤌. If the Dallas one is just as good, or better, this may climb the ladder to definite top 3.

Yes

To me, better than Pauley.

To anyone who disagrees, fake news (kidding).

After two listens that's my opinion.

For what it's worth, I think Dicks 4 and 8 are better than Pauley too. But we like what we like, my opinion should not get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of show, song or moment. What is it they say about opinions? Or as hunter said, believe it if you need it.

Edit: For what it's worth, 30 was also super special. On par or just under pauley. And don't get me started about 1974, wait.. what was it I listened to last?

The Best ......of the best

Dave's #43, Box set, Fillmore West, or Europe 72, Road Trips. 5/15/70 or 2/14/68, Dicks Picks, 5/2/70, 2/13 & 14/70, 10/31/71, 1968 Lake Tahoe shows, lots of great Dicks Picks. I was listening to 12/26/69 the day after Christmas last year, and I was thinking what a cool show this is. Let's hope they keep going into those banana boxes.

Best release ever.......

Fillmore West box set, If I was forced to pick just one.

But Billy....

....I don't possess that box. I was late to that train. Didn't get the Europe '72 steamer at the time due to financial concerns. Remedied since then.
But I have so many awesome sounding GD shows, I don't lose sleep over it. Mrs. Vguy still thinks 30 Trips Around The Sun cost $500. Shhhhh.....
Jim. I had to go look at what #30 was.
Yeah. That's a keeper. #19 is choice as well. Time fuckin flies.

H2H 12/26

Goodness the H2H is smokin' warts and all. In fact, I think it's Pigpen's early cut-in on the 2nd verse that pushes the energy, as he recovers by letting out a patented "Yowl!" His voice is really in top form.

Billy the Kid, I like your allegiance to '69-'70. I love all of that stuff and hope I never have to choose between it and '71-'72 or '73-'74.

Icecrmcnkd - that's a great example. Another is Close to the Edge. I couldn't even make out what the lyrics were (for years), just to realize they didn't make sense anyway. Opening lines:

"A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace,
And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace..." Whaaaa? I got into 70s rock in the 80s, at which point most of the albums had generic LP sleeves and no longer had the gatefold covers. Lot of lyrics were lost in the shuffle, and (gasp) there was no internet to consult.

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