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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Vguy72
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    Mister Mickey Hart brings it....

    ....always has. It's on Spotify and I'm digging it. Tiding me over, which brings me to my next point....
    I haven't gotten it yet either Mr. Ones. All good things in all good times. We're both are looking forward and it seems we're in the same boat. Our friends here seem to approve of it. Good enough for us!

  • Mr. Ones
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    Hey, has anyone got this one yet?? I’m super excited to hear it!!
    You know, I’m usually one of the last to get these, even later than some of our Euro friends, but damn, I’m really starting to wonder how much longer. I know, I preach patience, and I’ve been patient, but Damn!!

    Music is the Best, even when you have to wait for it!!

  • That Mike
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    MacOro - First off, a great tutorial on speaker placement and room alignment. Excellent, and I kept a copy of it. I’ve said it before: You know you’re stuff!
    Next, the jazz - great news you loved it! Welcome aboard. It gets under your skin, and before you know it, you are chasing those hard to get Blue Note classics from the 50s, or checking out European jazz on the ECM label. This all circles back to the Dead - their open minded ethos is a big reason I got into jazz.

    Unrelated, but for those who cannot get enough Dead literature or Europe 72, I see author Howard Weiner, who writes frequently on the Dead, and has published a couple of lightweight (IMHO) but ok books on them, has a new one out - Europe 72 Revisited.

    About seven sleeps until I see Emmylou.

    I received the new live Neil Young CD and the new Mickey Hart on Friday, still untouched, that kind of weekend. But on deck, for sure!

  • Oroborous
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    Oh, speaking of ridiculously sounding new recordings: Mickeys latest with Planet Drum In The Groove is a hi fi wet dream! As per youssh, our illustrious Mr Hart has provided superior aural magic and kinda in your face grooves. In a good way, as compared to say the more new age stuff (some of my fav!) I was hitting over 100db without breaking a sweat. Started freaking myself out, I could have gone louder but I was afraid I’d piss my neighbor off lol.
    This phenomena has never been experienced before. Usually my room modes make things too much for clean, intelligible volume at more than 95 DB or so. You can say what you like about Micks role in the Dead etc, but that mofo knows how to produce audio nirvana! Kudos to you good Sir!

  • Oroborous
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    Yeah Charlie I don’t get it either, maybe that’s why I’m a geek!
    I think it’s just generational/cultural. The lure of convenience and suddenly being able to take huge collections anywhere (relative to the time) at a time when radio could be argued had completely been ravaged by greed/commerce. So I think at first people noticed the aural differences but for the majority it was a trade off worth taking, for the previously unimagined convenience, and then add to that what a “trend” this was and well…
    But the problem to me was when it got even more convenient I.e., phones, and another generation came along that only ever knew this new, but horrible aural spectrum and it’s like any of the other fine things in life. If your not given proper exposure, you might not get it? I probably wouldn’t know a expensive wine from a just good one because that’s not my thing: I haven’t been exposed. As you mention Charlie, when given the opportunity to experience the music they already know well, but on even a modest step up in quality, they could appreciate it.
    I guess it’s that too: quantity versus quality. Like BITD I bet most folks had decent, but modest collections by todays standards (I’m looking at you Dennis ; ) but we KNEW, we KNEW the music we did have! How many of us now have so many shows we have only heard many once, and gulp, some never (I’m still working my way through Boxilla)
    I with you, from an early age I wanted a stereo. I worked so hard landscaping in the summer and snow blowing in the winter for all the older folks in the hood when I was young just so I could feed that Jones!
    Even as I got older, I didn’t even have a car, but I always had a good stereo and musical equipment!
    No mater how poor, best gear I could wrangle, cus good gear will get ya through times of no money better than lots of things!

    JIM/DaP 43: only once through, so not ready to “review”, but I can’t help but add to your insight with, holy pha king sheet what a amazing recording!! (Gets the Eddie Van Halen unusual dbl exclamation) When you consider he was first and foremost probably tripping hard much of the time (yas yas tolerance build up, but still) and mixing the band live when equipment sucked and often the venues etc, it’s damn near spiritual how fucking good these Bear recordings are, “please sir, may I have some more”?
    Yasss, amigo, what is in those boxes!!

  • JimInMD
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    Good Vibes, Good Music

    Great vibes on this thread lately folks.. many thanks to all.

    I'm just starting my second listen to 43 as I write this. Man.. this one is special. Great performances, great sound and although these shows did widely circulate, this one has a rarity aspect to it.. It might not be as out there as 11/8/69 but I really rank it right up, in fact I think it's better.

    Also, I think there is something to the sealed Banana boxes.. how many were there? Like I wrote after my first listen.. This has a Bears Choice feeling. Also, Bears Choice was called "History of the Grateful Dead, Volume One (Bear's Choice)."

    Volume 1 of 1???

    To those that rename these (thinking of you KeithFan), Bear's Choice Volume 2 rolls right off the tongue. So my question is... how many freaking Banana Boxes are there Lemieux? We need to start a new Bear's Choice series. Brought to you by the person who coined the phrase Boxzilla.. it's better marketing for these highly special, ancient Bear recordings left to age like fine wine in Banana Boxes.

    That's all I've got.. back the previously scheduled technical workshop on Wall of Sound, home version.

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    Oro, nice write up, my equilateral triangle is set up just about perfect according to your guidelines, which were also the same as the guidelines provided by the speaker company. Even have the first reflection point situation covered pretty good, and I can verify that the sound changed in my living room after we got a large area rug a few months ago in front of the speakers where the area was previously just bare laminate floor.

    Dennis, I was thinking similar thoughts about my kids and nephews, ranging in age from late teens to young adult, and their lack of any music collection outside of whatever they stream. Seems like it is more and more common that people don't have any actual collection beyond access to a streaming service or satellite radio. And honestly, streaming seems more limited to me than the radio. When you listen to the radio, the radio plays whatever is on the playlist and it may have nothing to do with your likes and dislikes, so you get exposed to new stuff you might not seek out on your own. With streaming, it seems like it is set up to select songs that are similar to songs the algorithm knows that you like, so it seems like you would get a narrower slice of available music, and would decrease the chance of some serendipitous discovery of something new and different. Also, none of my kids or nephews seem to give much thought to what they are listening on, which often seems to be a phone or earbuds hooked to a phone. I finally got my kids each a small bluetooth speaker to connect to the phone and they agreed that it sounds better than the phone alone, but I doubt they would have picked it up on their own. Just seems odd to me as I started jonesing hard for a stereo system in like 6th grade when I first started buying records and collecting music.

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    In a Word: AWESOME! Obviously some things resonate more than others. I’ve been meaning to, but just don’t have much time lately. But I’ll try and give ya tge quick and dirty…

    Keith Jarrett - Koln Concert: Nice surprise, perfect mellow piano vibe. Other one approved!

    Hank Mobley - Soul Station: Awesome! OO approved!

    Night Train - Oscar Peterson Trio: Awesome. OO approved.

    Christian McBride (& Inside Straight) - Live at Village Vanguard: holy crap Batman, this one’s been the one, the biggest surprise and perhaps fav (so far lol). Warrren Wolf is da man! Good vibes, both literally and figuratively lol.

    Wyton Kelly Trio w/Wes Montgomery- Smokin at the Halfnote- indeed, the name says it all. Complements what I already had by WM nicely.

    Tito Puente - King of Kings: always felt I should have some Tito and this one shows up on a lot of those “lists”. Good stuff, great fir FAC vib. Niche stuff might not get played a ton, but when the situation calls for it, iiieeeeeeEEE!

    Pharaoh Sanders - Karma: haven’t got to this one yet. Think it might be too out for the OO, so need to find right alone time?

    SUN RA - Easy Listening for Intergalactic Travel: same as above ?

    MONKS DREAM: seen on many lists like the above so figured it would round out what I have. Need more time with this one but think I was surprised that it wasn’t too boppy? I used to listen to mostly bop and fusion but over the years I have to be in the mood. Mostly because that music is so demanding and takes real listening which unfortunately is getting harder for me to do.

    I didn’t listen to much mellow stuff, but now it’s my preferred, what I call “heroin Jazz” my best example of this is probably soundtrack to the cool film Round Midnight starring the great Dexter Gordon! Bill Evans too, pull a few tubes, and this music just eliminates all my stress!

    MINGUS AT CARNEGIE HALL: great album but I probably won’t spin it as much (see above about bop) but magnificent playing none the less. The Seattle Live Train that I got last winter same thing: awesome, but perhaps not for everyday normal spins?

    GRANT GREEN - IDLE MOMENTS: another cool surprise. I don’t think I was aware of Mr Green, and thought he was a pianist lol, but what a smooth player and a great album. Think this one will get lots of spins especially since it’s OO approved lol. In fact, she dug all except a couple of the hardest things.

    Oh, and last but not certainly least, GETZ/GILBERTO: another holy crap situation! Only heard once so far but wow wow as Jim would say. Pairs nicely with Melody Gardot - The Absence, and My One and Only. Funny, my music servers maker loaded some hi res albums on my machine when he built it, or he’ll add some stuff when it’s getting fixed etc, and so it’s been on there for years but I never checked it out until this winter, yet another cool surprise, cool mood music!
    I got there because I discovered Nora Jones, (more I had but did not know) this past year and man, I need more! Any suggestions? (We have Day Breaks, Feels Like Home, and FAC fav so far: Come Away With Me) Need More!
    She also in turn got me at least listening to Diana Krall. The Other One has had several for years but I blocked it until recently. I’m still trying to figure her out? Not bad, but I’m not sure I see “it”? Well we have like seven of her albums so I guess eventually I’ll figure it out lol.

    Oh, and whomever suggested GEORGE WINSTON - Linus & Lucy, thanks for the reminder! Got that as a gift years ago, another nice mellow good vibe album, of course then there’s David Benoit - It’s a DB Christmas, and tge real deal and one that you might think is “just” a Xmass album, but man what playing and vibe (heroin Jazz) from Vince Guaraldi Trio on the original peanuts influenced material! Speaking of holiday Jazz, check out Jazz to the World from 1995 with various artists!

    So many of the choices provided by all you knowledgeable nice folks had me salivating, but alas many currently not available or too pricey used, so I’ll keep my eyes open. And hey, with what we did get we’ll be busy for awhile. Throw in the once through and supremely excellent DaP 43, and next up Mickeys new Planet Drum outing: In The Groove and I’d say Im good to go lol. Well…; )

    Thanks again too all y’all for the great suggestions and for just being you!

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    Went to a reggae fest last night....

    ....Tribal Seeds, SOJA and Dirty Heads. Forty bucks for five hours of solid entertainment. Great crowd.👌
    Check out Rage and Vacation by Dirty Heads. Catchy af. They also do a solid cover of Life's Been Good.

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    Both Dicks 4 and Dicks 8, Binghampton 5/2/70 were indeed cause for celebration. I used to visit a friend at that time, and he had 100s of tapes - so we had copies of these 3 shows already. But to have them on an officially released cd was amazing. They are still my favourite Dicks Picks.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

....prez follows through on a campaign promise and the hate still flies with certain people. "What about my mortgage?!" "MIdterm excuse for votes!"
Fascinating indeed brother. The current conservative trends are alarming to say the least. Go out and vote like your lives depend on it! Because it does.
My political rant for the month.
Back to tunes. And it ain't Kid Rock or Nugent.

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Glad you had that memory come back so clearly. I recently had a similar experience that brought me back to college beer parties, and sneaking off to smoke with buddies and get a few tunes in. Memory is a funny thing.

What a first show, 6/16/74. I did not realize that one was a three set show. One of my favorite 1974 releases. A buddy sent me the remainder from 6/16 and 6/18, but I rarely listen. That's about to change - you've inspired me.
For whatever reason Jerry is extra up-front in the mix, which is especially cool with when he's hitting chords - it's a very crunchy Wolf.

Just to see them in those early days. Thanks for the detailed account. It reminded me of some of my best concert experiences. I have no doubt I would have had a difficult time not following them outside of a hundred mile radius. The way I think of it, I was willing to see bands like Yes, Rush, and The Who 3 or 4 times a tour at multiple venues, and they all played basically the same set list from night to night. If that grabbed me, then getting a different set list every night would have had drawn me outside of the Philly / Jersey / New York market. That sounds like real freedom to me.

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Has anyone checked out the home page Veneta application, where you can isolate tracks? Highly recommend isolating Keith on Playing in the Band. During the jam part he plays, I guess 10+ minutes of perfectly seamless improv piano that sounds like a concerto. As much as I knew what a talent he was, listening to his isolated piano there made me realize I didn't know the half of it. The app can be a little bit quirky, and I could not get Bertha to work, but be patient and use a PC if it doesn't work on your phone.

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I cobbled together a complete 6/18 using the Full-Norman for the road trips and the best sounding board from the Archive. You two have inspired me to do the same for 6/16.. in fact for all the '74 chop job shows. Thankfully they started releasing full shows for the most part. .. at least to me, I know some prefer or are ok with partial shows, which is ok, but I do prefer complete shows being remastered unless in those rare occurrences there really was a train wreck mid show complete with explosions, body parts flailing and mortally wounded lying by the wreckage. ..but I digress, thanks for inspiring me, a nice little project when I get the time.

As for the Sunshine Daydream / Veneta app.. I looked but all I could find was that there is a Sunshine Daydream week strain. I think I am going to have to seek that one out.

Edit: I went to the local store and sure enough.. they had some Sunshine Daydream buds. The stuff is outstanding.. super trippy, yields a strong, transcendent buzz.. but beware of the side effects. I snapped out of a 5-hour stupor completely naked straddling the top of a telephone pole. This stuff should come with a warning label. I've got some nasty splinters in places that, well....

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far freaking out man. Unfortunately for me, I live in the south where you can still get busted for smoking an herb. It's 2022 for Christ's sake. When is this madness ever gonna end? For over 50 years I have been smoking weed and it has never hurt me, well, unless you want to count that time, we smoked all that black afghani hash and woke up with our faces in our shoes, it took hours for those shoe prints to wear off.
Top five bands for me:
#1 The God Damn Grateful Dead
#2 Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Beatles, Vguy and I have similar likes, except fish, tried them, didn't take. Yes, number 5 is whatever I'm listening to right now.
Student loan forgiveness: Wow, thanks Prez Biden for that, and thanks to all you folks who think you got ripped off and didn't get anything ("what about...pay your bills...my, my me me mine) now we know who you are and remember that we vote in November again and that you will be remembered as the ones who complained about this. Stupid republicans shoot themselves in the foot again. Again, the words of Harry Truman ring true in my ears "if you want to live like a republican, you had better vote democrat." Political rant over, for now.

A large gap before we get to number two

2. Traffic
3. The Band
4. Pink Floyd

5. My most recent concert.

Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Beatles are all stepping stones to the other stuff.

Surprised nobody mentioned the Allmans.

Yea. Student loan forgiveness. How about grow up and pay your bills.

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I tend to like a few albums by a lot of bands/artists without any staying at the top or near the top of the pile. All those already mentioned plus Spirit, Dylan, Love, Talk Talk, The Fall, Van Morrison and on and on. For the last couple of years I've hardly played any GD. My interest will return I'm sure but I don't know when.

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I can't resist, I'm a list guy.

The Grateful Dead would be the only rock band that cracks my top 5, the rest being Jazz groups.

But for this, I'll stick to rock, and bands with more than just an album or two in their portfolio. Surely there are changes over time, but here's what I'd say currently based on the amount I listen to now and have listened to over the years:

1. Grateful Dead

2. Brian Setzer Orchestra

3. The Band

4. Little Feat

5. The Byrds/Flying Burrito Brothers/and associated solo projects

Impossible for me too.

Besides the GD and the Garcia Band(s).. Floyd, ABB, Hot Tuna, Steely Dan, The Band, Van Morrison, Beatles, Airplane, Burritos, Old and in the Way, Lots of bluegrass/folk/blues, goodness, we could be here all day. But to my ears and mind nothing tops the good old GD / Garcia Band.. I like many of Phil's line-ups, a lot. But hey.. I have it a go.

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Man, glad you guys are all so cool with paying my kids' student loans, pretty cool windfall for the two that are done with college already. And don't thank Biden, he's not paying for it, we all are, so thanks to us would be more appropriate. The loans didn't really disappear, they just don't have to be paid back by the borrower.

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1) Grateful Dead and anything acoustic or electric that Jerry Garcia played. ,2) Muddy Waters blues band, with Little Water, Otis Spann, & Jimmy Rodgers. from the early 1950s, 3) Paul Butterfield Blues Band with Mike Bloomfield, Elvin Bishop, San Lay & Jerome Arnold. Favorite musicians, B.B.King, T Bone Walker, Elmore James, Charlie Musslewhite, Albert Collins, James Cotton, Merle Haggard, Buck Owens, and on & on & on .

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Maybe not...the band I have listened to most apart from The Dead is sadly The Stones. The band I have seen the most, between 40-50 times over 46 years is Hawkwind. So top 5 from 1972 to now might be
1. The Stones
2. Hawkwind
3. The Cramps
4. Gong
5. David Bowie - but only up to 1980.

But in the last 12 months, I have listened to more King Crimson, who I saw for the first time about 2017, and an assortment of 1950s rockers than any of the above - Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Duane Eddy to name 5. Many more though.

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Garcia's playing made every song better. But I never really cared for Quinn the Eskimo, Samba in the Rain, Picasso Moon, Just a Little Light, Satisfaction, Victim or the Crime, there's a few others. It would have been so much cooler if they would have pulled out Pride of Coucamonga, Mtns of the Moon, Sitting on top of the World, Attics of My Life( they did it, but not very often) and many others.

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Almost my exact same list of least favs.
Can't do a top 5 bands either, just too many but if I look ay my collection...
GD by a huge number
Allman Bros.
Eric Clapton
If I limit it to performers I've seen live, same list but I'd add
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Albert "The Ice Pick" Collins
Return To Forever
Weather Report
Eagles (first line-up)
But I digress, cheers

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>98% of my music listening is GD.
I collected tapes in the 90’s, then digitized the tapes, then downloaded all the SBD’s from archive before that was blocked (think that I got about 125 GB of shn), then got shn files on DVD-R from the snail mail vines, then starting doing torrents.
I probably have 3 TB of GD torrents that I haven’t even listened to yet.
And I buy the official releases.

Of the other ~2%, JG takes up about half, then Hendrix, Floyd, Who, ABB, Led Zep, Stones, Rush, Hard Working Americans, Ziggy Stardust (my preferred Bowie era) and others. Generally live recordings, very little studio albums, although I did listen to Quadrophenia earlier this week, and will listen to Hendrix and Floyd studio albums.

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....don't remind me. Even Vince's songs were better. Childhoods End? Trash. If The Shoe Fits? Trash.

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VGUY72!!!!

Wave to the Wind still horrifies me to think about. Other Phil songs are acceptable.

Vince's songs were overplayed, but they are alright to me.

The others anything after 1985 gets little play from me. I do have the occasional visit to that stretch, but _occasional_.

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I'll see you eventually ladies!! Until then, keep doing what you're doing because you kick ass!

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for info on the latest DP-volume. I have registered the tracking info in my Swedish Postal Service app but nothing so far. The wait is absolutely worst when a record has music from the late 60's or up to about 1974, because that's my main focus when it comes to listening to the band.

The past 25 years there is only ONE release I have listened to muliple times, or ONE track since I don't have the vinyl LP. That's Playing in the Band from 5-21-74, which I have in the box set Pacific Northwest '73–'74: The Complete Recordings. Okey, maybe I have listened a couple of times to the Complete 1969 Fillmore West as well. ;-)

About lists, I love lists but nowadays I usually only make lists of ten favorite artists or bands. In my dead.net profile I list my favorite bands as follows:

1. GRATEFUL DEAD
2. YELLO
3. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL
4. QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE
5. FRANK MARINO & MAHOGANY RUSH
6. ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND
7. JERRY GARCIA BAND(S)
8. REDBONE
9. LED ZEPPELIN
10. HAWKWIND

I listen to a lot more jazz though than any of the above bands, maybe excluding the Dead.

These are the different artists/bands I have most records (LP's, CD's, 45's, prerecorded tapes, etc), DVD's and (prerecorded) VHS's with:

Grateful Dead, 224 units +
Yello, 86 units
Jerry Wallace, 60 units (only 45's)
Bob Dylan, 58 units
David Bowie, 54 units
Hawkwind, 47 units
Miles Davis, 41 units
Allman Brothers Band, 40 units
Santana (not counting Carlos Santana solo stuff), 36 units
John Coltrane, 32 units +
(Jerry Garcia solo and bands, 32 units)
(Charles Mingus, 30 units)
(CCR, 27 units)
(Led Zeppelin, 26 units)
(Marshall Tucker Band, 26 units)

Best regards,
Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

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Frosted - of all the bands I haven't seen, the Brain Setzer Orchestra is the one I think I would most like to witness. Incredible live dvd of them playing live in Japan about 20 years ago. It was seeing The Stray Cats and The Cramps back in 1981 that first turned me on to rock n' roll. Jumping jehosophat!

Me too Dennis, probably my favorite Brentski tune.
Always liked Hey Pockey Way and Let the Good Times Roll, though I guess they all sang on that…

Perhaps the best thing about these “other” tunes was Garcia!
Picasso, Victim, Brent Tunes, Saint etc: try listening to just what JG is doing.
The guy is just so damn versatile. As good as he is “leading”, he’s perhaps even better accompanying or augmenting others!
The Maestro!

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For whatever reason I have always considered Dylan and Van Morrison to be solo artists rather than bands.

If I look at it that way, they displace most bands and are definitely in the top 6 (I need to make room). I would add Neil Young to that grouping as well.

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Nothing lasts. Including top 5 lists. On 8/26/22, at 8:15 am, my top 5 (not counting jazz) was:

GOGD
ABB
Zeppelin
Van Morrison
TTB

But then at 8:20, I realized, no way can I leave out the Beatles. They're the fucking Beatles! Oh yeah, and the Stones. So what if they haven't made a decent new record since the '70s, and I really can't bear to watch them on stage without Chollie, ya still gotta reckon with how impossibly awesome they were from '68-'72. And I spent the whole late '70s early '80s listening to punk, so there's got to be some of that in there somewhere. So at 8:10 am it changed to:

GOGD
Beatles
Stones
ABB
Clash

But then I was like, what about Dylan? Or Neil Young? I've definitely listened to them my whole damn life, a lot longer than I was into punk. Come to think of it, Los Lobos have been constant favorites since the punk rock days. And what about Hendrix, for fuck's sake?

So at 8:25 am, I just gave up.

Interesting, to me anyway, to consider why some artists fascinated me for a year or two or three, and others have stayed with me for decades. Some of it is just getting older. I'm not nearly as pissed off as I was as an 18 year old, so I don't listen to as much Black Flag or Fugazi. Some of it is just trends that come and go: I''ve had periods where I listened to prog a lot, others where all that stuff seemed horribly pretentious. I've had times when I couldn't listen to country, times when it was all I wanted to hear.

One constant has been the GOGD. They're like an ocean. There's a lot of it. It's always changing. You can float along the surface or dive deep down. There's always more to explore, and always something new to notice when I return to things I've heard over and over. I never get tired of 'em.

Love the Animal house like time stamps (like in the move when they all sync watches but all have different times; )

AND
That last paragraph has got to be one of the best descriptions of the GOGD I’ve ever read!
Sheer poetry, right up there with Ralph’s essay in the Christmas story! Teasing of course, but totally serious about your great description!

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....The Black Crowes! They're up there on my list too.
Which reminds me.....time to dust them off. BRB.
That's actually how I discovered TTB. Saw the Crowes live a year or so ago. Went home and started watching you toob Crowe videos. One was of Chris Robinson with TTB in a dressing room jamming. I had heard of the TTB, but never checked them out. That video blew my mind, and away I went down the rabbit hole. Thanks Mr. Robinson!

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Dennis - As an avid collector, please see Miles Davis website (store) for an offer on a new premium pressing of Kind Of Blue. You may have to tell the wife the charge was for “Miles Motors & Repair” for some nebulous “car repairs”, but I think this pressing will interest you greatly.

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VGuy - I’ve personally just been spending the week going down the Jayhawks rabbit hole, a band always on my periphery, but I never gave full attention to. I’ve been buying their back catalogue, including solo work. One cd I had delivered was a duo effort by the two principal songwriters, Mark Olson and Gary Louris, called “Ready For The Flood”.

The producer? Why none other than Black Crowe, Chris Robinson, hisself!

The knee bone is connected to the shin bone. The shin bone is connected…

Ah, the mails in Thing! (Creak). Why the brand new TTB album “I Am The Moon”!! Fire up the CD player, Lurch, and let’s play all 4 parts of this symphony in order, to get the overall story!

Not sure why, I’ve never really checked out her music, but perhaps like a as not yet “knowing” youngster might say, “ she gives me a funny feeling” lol
She’s what known as a Hot Mess!

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Yeah, the Brian Setzer Orchestra is great, especially if you like a little jazz and swing twist to your rocknroll. They play plenty of Stray Cats tunes too, so I'd really include both of those groups in my favorites. I've seen the Orchestra once, and it was a great show, with lots of horn players and really tight musicians. I have that live disc you mentioned, listen to it a lot, along with many others by them.

Setzer is vastly underappreciated IMO. An outstanding guitarist, and he knows his jazz chords and licks better than most rock guitarists. He sometimes gets pigeonholed with the rockabilly label. That's music I like, but some people treat it as an outdated fad. He has an excellent voice too. He sometimes rants and raves when doing rockabilly, but has a very good range, and a really nice voice on the old jazz standards and doo-wop type ballads.

I first saw the Stray Cats in the early 80s too. Hadn't heard much of them, and went in thinking I wouldn't like them much, because I didn't like the punk and new wave scene that I thought they were coming out of - seemed like too much anti-Dead to me. Boy was I wrong, it was the most fun show I ever saw. In a small gymnasium at my university, I was right near the stage. Setzer had blue streaks in his hair and his shirt off on a hot night - a skinny guy with too many tattoos, but what a musician and stage force he was. They rocked the whole time - had the energy of 5 bands, nonstop, just enjoying every minute and not at all nihilistic and cynical like the punks of that era.

To catch the Cats in their prime, I watch their live show on youtube at Montreaux from 1981 or so. They were really young and rebellious looking. The stand up drumming and double bass just look cool on stage while they're constantly on the move - and those 3 instruments put out a hell of a sound for a small combo. The song My One Desire in that show sort of epitomizes a great pure rock tune for me. When I want to get fired up with adrenaline, I'll occasionally go back to that show.

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this one is rubbing me right....

those mentioning Jayhawks, check out Golden Smog if you get a chance or haven't already.
I'm super familiar with their first two albums (some all timers on those).
I fell into them via Jayhawks/Wilco/Uncle Tupelo/Son Volt years ago as a peripheral rabbit hole and have been in wonderland ever since.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

Sixtus - I too am a huge fan of Wilco/Tweedy/Tupelo/Farrar/Son Volt, but aside from “Hollywood Town Hall”, I didn’t know the Jayhawks, but these guys are terrific. I’m just learning about this supergroup thing Golden Smog with Tweedy and Louris and others, gonna dig deeper, thanks for the heads up.

....shipped from Austin, TX weds. Arrives two days later. I'm looking 👀 at you rhino/dead.net. See? It's not that hard to get the people what they bought in a timely fashion.
Edit. Seems I should listen to these Jayhawks. I've never heard of them.
Edited again. CD carousel is loaded up with I Am The Moon. Slightly disappointed that they didn't come in a cardboard sleeve to hold all four volumes together, but first world problems. Time to pack a bowl.

Checked around,,, if it's the UHQR version it seems to be sold out EVERYWHERE!

Will keep eye out,,, thanks for the heads up.

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First: I had no idea ST played guitar
2nd: I had no idea ST and DT were married (my wife said they were)
3rd: first few numbers were good
Then Derek started playing with Susan off the stage.
Pretty good. Pretty, pretty good. (A curb your enthusiasm/Larry David reference)

Bottom line: thumbs up. Well worth attending. The entire band was supreme. Good vibes.

Los Lobos was good, too. My wife and I saw them 2x before: in Fall 85 in Tacoma (when we were merely dating) and in 96 at further festival at Gorge (when she was pregs with our twins)

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I worked that show (half the tour actually), wonder if we met lol
The Gorge is sweet!

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Hey Dennis - I double checked the email I received yesterday. It CAME from the Miles Davis site, but to purchase the UHQR Vinyl of Kind of Blue, it directs you to the following linq:
store(dot)acousticsounds (dot) com

My apologies for directing you to the Miles store.
I hope this helps! Bonne chance!

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Frosted - I was inspired by your post to watch The Stray Cays live in Cologne 7/16/81 show on dvd earlier today. A wild show - what a great guitar sound and style he has. Jazz inspired rock n'roll, as you say. I saw them with my brother when I went to visit him in March 81. I had little idea what to expect, and no real expectations. But they blew me away.

At that time, in England, rock n' roll had quite a cute image - although it was followed by murderous Teddy Boys who were a bit older than yer average rock fan. They took umbrage with punks and used to stage battles with them like the mods and rockers supposedly did in the 60s. I was still in full freak mode at the time - but I enjoyed fast hard rock in the 70s, so punk quite appealed to me at first. The gigs in 1976 - 1977 were a blast, but then it became a bit cliched so I stopped going. But The Stray Cats blew every punk band I had seen out of the water. They hung out with The Clash, and had a lot more bite than any rock n'roll band I had ever come across up to that point. I should say that I hadn't heard any of the great recordings of the 1950s at this point - but like The Stones and The Dead, listening to The Stray Cats opened a door into the past without being locked into it.

I can remember reading an interview with Brian Setzer, in which he said it would be too expensive to bring the full orchestra over to England. A real shame.
I don't see any contradiction in liking The Stray Cats and The Dead at all, incidentally. The week after I saw them, I saw The Dead for the first time. No need to choose between them at all. To me, the whole thing of listening to The Dead is to be open minded, and explore different styles of music. If it rocks.....it rocks!

....saw Phish there in '97 and '98. Beautiful venue and cool camping.
If you've been there, you know where the best spot is. In between the floor and the lawn is a strip of flat grass that circles the floor. At the '98 shows, I went with my wife (then girlfriend) and a buddy of mine and his girlfriend. I wanted to get in line early to snag a spot there. Wife/girlfriend wondered what the big deal was and didn't want to get in line so early. I said, "trust me. Its worth it." Mike Gordon drove by the line in a golf cart and said hello to everyone, which was very cool. Gates opened. My buddy and I scooby-doo'ed down the hill to get there. Ran so fast I lost a Birkenstock. Girlfriends behind picked it up and eventually found us on that flat strip. After we were all there, I asked my girlfriend/wife, "worth the wait?" She rubbed her toes in the grass, saw the view, caved and said, "You were correct Vinnie." We all proceeded to pop some caps and stems and Phish obliged by playing one of the most highly rated shows of that year. (And '98 is widely considered a banner year).
Wife doesn't indulge anymore, but I'm an old dog who likes his old tricks.
Shit. That was 24 years ago??
I need to get back there someday.
Footnote. We then drove south to catch them at Shoreline and Ventura. Pulled into a rest stop in No. Cal to sleep in our cars. I woke up to my girlfriend/wife laughing her ass off. Apparently, some fans that were driving the same route slept on the rest stop lawn and picnic tables in their sleeping bags and the sprinklers went off.
"Vinnie! It's so funny! They all jumped up in their bags and hopped around like Mexican jumping beans!" We sat there and watched the show, then went looking for a breakfast spot.
Good times.
Stray Cats are legit.

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Can’t believe you anniversary types haven’t mentioned the big one today: 50 years for Veneta!
SSDD on the big screen tonight!

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How often do you play those classic records that you were sick to death of back in the day? Harvest, Led Zep IV, DSOM, Sticky Fingers etc. I've really been enjoying them lately. I've completely fallen in love again with early 70s Neil Young, I'm 15 again and very happy about it.

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