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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1141
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    My Dave's status changed today....

    ....went from out for delivery to Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending
    Henderson, NV, United States as of July 30th. (Seems Doc fired up the DeLorean because we're going back in time). Seems to be a UPS to USPS transfer delay. Fingers still crossed!
    Luckily, I was born with a roadrunner speed metabolism. 6'4" 190 lbs. I can thank my moms side of the family for that. But yeah. Fast Food convenience in the 80's sparked the fire.
    Hey Charlie3. I think your wife does care about your speaker placement and just doesn't make it a big deal because she respects you. That's my wife at least.

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    Thanks for the suggestion. Always interested to see what other people are listening on and how they like it.

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    I'm really digging hearing TC's organ frills on this cd!

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    I had the same problem with my Onkyo multi disc CD player. The laser is going bad. Check out Emotiva. Yes, a bit pricy but I have been very happy.

    Overweight Americans. A combination of diet, large portions, and no exercise. The solution - clothes that stretch. Much easier than lifestyle changes.

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    Speaker Placement

    Spot on Icecrmcnkd, speaker placement matters and I am going to choose the right moment to let my wife know that I'm not the only one who thinks so. Much to the annoyance of my wife, speaker placement has dictated the arrangement of some living room furniture. Standard two channel placement, about 12 feet apart on either side of the living room window, and about 12 feet from the sweet spot for listening on the couch. Set up to fill the open front of the house with sound, which means that you can't have a couch a few feet in front of a speaker even if it is a little off to the side, right? I mean, it seems obvious that you need a clear space extending out like a cone from the speaker to really optimize the sound on the far side of the open floor plan. I can't tell you how many times I've explained this to my wife. It almost seems like she doesn't care about sound quality nearly as much as I do.

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    Speaker placement matters too

    I just have Bose 301 bookshelf speakers that aren’t high end, but I have them on Bose speaker stands that are placed on TV stands. This puts the bottom of the speakers 5 ft off the floor, so there is nothing blocking the sound. They can go loud and remain very clear. There is an Onkyo subwoofer on the floor to cover the low end.

    I have a separate Onkyo 5.1 surround home theater system with Blu-ray, but don’t use it for playing CD’s because the Bose 301’s with the stereo system sound better than the little Onkyo speakers that are part of the 5.1 system.
    I did consider merging the two setups but decided that I wanted to have a Cambridge Audio stereo system.
    I used Onkyo tape decks during my tape trading days and never had an issue with them, so stuck with Onkyo when I went digital and was happy with it because it was affordable and sounded pretty good. Onkyo and other brands disappeared during the COVID shutdown (6-disc changers were impossible to find for a while) then reappeared at higher prices. So I decided to upgrade the audio system now, assuming that prices would only keep going up.
    I’m glad I did because it sounds very nice.

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    Charlie - you are right…

    Charlie - you are right about the Eagles perhaps getting it right the first time. Frey & Henley were notorious for being quite particular about the sound of the band, definitely not a “one and done” band in the studio.

    Oro - I knew this subject was right in your wheelhouse! Great info, as always. I’ve been meaning to ask you: You purchased a number of (first rate) jazz selections weeks back that had been recommended by the expert panel of Deadnet posters - have you worked your way through them yet, and does anything stand out so far? Anything disappoint?

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    What's on the grill today? Tri Tip! First music selection , Europe 72, that Cumberland is killer. Beer selection , Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Next up, Louisana Fog, Charliie. Musslewhite. Fun Times. Beautiful day here in the Bay Area.

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    Replacement Player

    I have an Onkyo 6 cd changer also, and it has some issues reading discs. Sometimes I can put the CD back in a different tray and it will read, so it's not the CD. Some CD's it just will not read at all, so I started looking at CD players and was amazed at the jump in prices, double or triple what I paid for the same player a couple years before the pandemic. My solution was just to hook up an old Blu Ray player that was serving no other purpose, and that plays the CD's just fine, and you can still get a basic Blu Ray player for cheap. I am just using the disc player as transport and connecting to my receiver with an HDMI cable and using the DAC in the receiver, so the sound is exactly the same from the CD player or Blu Ray player.

    I upgraded my stereo a few years ago and got some nice speakers, and then upgraded the receiver a little later. Not a lot of local opportunities to listen to products in a showroom here, so I had to compare specifications online, ended up working out pretty well to my ears. I have a pair of Klipsch RP 280 floorstanding speakers and a Yamaha RX-A 1060 receiver. The speakers have great bass output down to almost the edge of human hearing, so no subwoofers needed. Saved a bunch picking up the speakers as an open box on ebay, although I could find nothing to indicate it had ever been opened when I received it, and picking up the receiver at the switch to the newer model. I just run everything without any processing, the receiver has a straight mode, with the idea of hearing things as recorded. I get nice clear sound with nice rich bass response even at low volumes, no detectable distortion even at high volume. The speakers are sensitive enough that they require only minimum power, so I really can't get to more than about one third or half volume on the receiver without hitting volumes that are just too high for normal listening. Lots of choices at a lot of budget levels that will produce great sound these days. I have been eyeing a Panasonic player that plays 4k Ultra Blu Rays, Blu Rays, DVDs, all current HDR video formats, audio CD's and a number of hi-res audio formats with a separate audio out HDMI port to connect to a stereo, but it's a little spendy and I can't say I actually need it right now so I'm holding off. For now.

    That Mike, I have noticed that I haven't really seen remasters of the Eagles albums, but I always assumed that meant they got it right the first time, 'cause the original CD's sound so good. I always thought the sound on One of These Nights and Hotel California were fantastic, full, rich sound. Still have my vinyl versions of both as well. Waiting for a Big Lebowski Eagles quote from somebody now.

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    So, equipment does matter

    Yes, yes it does lol.

    Format wars: people are once again conned into a us versus them scenario.
    I mean there is nothing that folks haven’t turned into a binary situation, yeeesshhk.
    So as a long time audiophile and geek, my 2 cents is they both can sound amazing (analog/Digital) if they’ve been done properly and using the right equipment. How it’s done is more important then which way!

    I’ve heard systems of both formats worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Conclusion, the ones that were done properly sounded amazing, regardless of format. The systems that weren’t amazing, even with big price tags = bad equipment synergy and not doing things properly. I’ve heard modest systems done extremely well that blow away super expensive systems that weren’t done right!

    The biggest problem with digital, both now and ever, is conversion! Yes those other variables are very important, but the biggest factor in digital, and why it received most of its negative prejudice, involves conversion.
    Much of this negativity started with most/many? of the initial CD releases at the dawn of the format.
    Ignorance about how important conversion is (hey it’s just ones and zeros right, NOT!, combined with a race to get product out and beat the competition etc fostered an unfortunate environment, that resonates negative discontent to this day.
    By not using the actual masters, and outdated and often improper conversion, the result is a ridiculous amount of CDs that sound horrible!
    Add to this that most people use equipment with DAC sets that cost mere pennies to do the most import process in the playback chain, and it’s no wonder so many people don’t like digital.

    Fortunately, there have been amazing advances in DACs (both A to D and D to A conversion), digital mastering, digital recording etc, and more importantly, in research and knowledge.
    In some cases these advancements are as big as the jump from Standard def to High def video etc.
    But outside of our geek circles the vast majority of the public knows (or seems to care) nothing about this. For many the damage has been done psychologically due to the original shortsightedness and idiosyncrasies discussed above.

    So it’s refreshing to see someone like Conekid trying to take proper steps to improve his musical experience.
    Imho, a DAC can be the biggest little thing you can do. Even an inexpensive Audio Quest Dragonfly with a phone or iPod can often make a good improvement of even the most modest equipment. Of course the Achilles heel of audio electronics is synergy between components and of course ones listening room can be the biggest factor of all. Since you won’t ever know for sure what will play nice with what etc, it can be hard to get the most out of your whole system. So you might have to try different things, but audio nirvana is achievable, and you don’t have to spend a fortune if you do your research and with trial and error you’ll learn what works for you, because that’s the biggest factor of all! All the rest can be important and make a difference, but regardless of hype, price, trends, bottom line, does it sound good to you! You may have cheap garbage, but if you really like how it sounds, that’s what matters!

    If your not fully satisfied, try to really analyze what you don’t like, be as specific as possible. Then first research possible issues you can diy: improper use, and acoustic idiosyncrasies you might be able to address. Don’t just run out and buy something!!
    Don’t just get swayed by upgrade fever. I have a C40 pre amp that’s probably 40 years old. I can get a new one at cost. I’ve gone round and round, but generally like many features on mine, that a new one won’t have.
    So after I realized via my ole buddy BOO469 that all I had was upgrade fever, I’ve stayed with my ole trusty pre.
    If you know exactly what you don’t like, and if there’s nothing you can rectify acoustically, or perhaps electricity, then pin point what part of your chain could benefit the most from upgrading.
    Then take the time to research, and if possible try out stuff before you just throw money at it.
    Like anything else, an educated consumer has a better chance of being satisfied!

    Same is true with analog, but different set of equations. Since I put my big chips into a digital system, I’m familiar with overall analog practices, but would not make any specific suggestions due to very limited hands on experience of tge medium. I’d say look closely at your phono preamp type etc,.
    Anyway, sorry to ramble, told ya I was a geek!
    What ever your rocking, hopefully your able to maximize your ability to PLAY DEAD!

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 12:14

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....'65 - '75 IS the best decade for music in my opinion.
Let's do a decade #1!
Another edit. Check out The Warning. A three piece sister power rock band from Mexico with impressive riffs. Whoa! Paulina, the drummer/harmony singer is on point!! Her enthusiasm is evident. Awesome.
Guess I'm on a girl band kick lately.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 14:34

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It's the 50th anniversary of the greatest GD show ever. (Yeah, I said it.) Please celebrate irresponsibly.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 15:11

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I upgraded to Blu-ray and what a difference. The audio is great. I am watching this thinking how freedom looked back then. It seems like there was more freedom but I believe the music was just better. We had our problems back then too. I agree Crow, this show is terrific. I guess it helps that the source tapes are so good. Sometimes that's half the battle.

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 20:22

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I think TTB is excellent. Derek Trucks is legendary as far as I am concerned and Susan is wonderful. Talk about a power couple. Plus they really lined themselves up with some great musicians and vocalists. I hear a lot of influences in their songs. I really like the fact that they are not a jam band, or even a band that jams as Greg Allman would say. I think it is cool direction to take, especially for Derek who we all know can go after the improvisation from his Allman Brothers days.
A great footnote to this is that there is a YouTube video of TTB playing Anyday from about 11 years ago. Now this in itself isn't anything new, as the Allman Brother played that song and TTB continued to as well. However this video I am referencing has shots of many celebrities in attendance at this particular show. Just off of the stage there is shot of none other then Eric Clapton, who is singing along and rocking out to TTB playing Anyday. Talk about a great honor. I wish I could remeber the exact title of that video but I tihnk it is from a show or festival from 2011. If anyone gets adventurous I say it is worth the search to find it.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 23:58

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The records I first heard when I was 15 never really grow old. A magical time - for me 1972-73 was illuminated by...
Electric Warrior - T. Rex
Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Paranoid -Black Sabbath
Fireball - Deep Purple
Space Ritual - Hawkwind
and the one that really amused my parents..... the incomparable Slade Alive!
Singles were great then too - All The Young Dudes, Starman, Silver Machine, Schools Out, Virginia Plain come to mind.
I was oblivious to The Dead playing various dates in England at the time.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 04:12

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Glad to hear you like the J’s, VGuy. The Jayhawks are terrific, and I’m finding out this offshoot group called Golden Smog (thank you Sixtus) is the bee’s knees.

Warning about this “Americana” music - it’s pretty infectious.

Once you tick that box marked “Americana”, the amazing music that unfolds is incredible, from all the performers mentioned, but including some other favourites of mine such as Neko Case, Gillian Welch/Dave Rawlings, Lucinda Williams, to old standbys such as Buddy Miller (I saw him play with Plant & Krauss - wow!), Ry Cooder, all the way back to the Band.

Do the Dead constitute “Americana”? Certainly, they were masterful interpreters of so many veins of music, from Motown to Reggae to Disco (yikes) to Jazz to Folk to….etc. Americana? Originators? Certainly American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead could be worthy of serious consideration, and notable for being ahead of their time, before this vein of music became defined as such. Hmmmmm…

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 09:18

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That video is the 2011(?) Clapton Crossroads Festival. That's where I first saw TTB and fell for them immediately. They also interview a bit in there and describe how they found all the early influences like Delaney and Bonnie and wanted to revive that influence. It worked! The other melted happy face besides Clapton's was the host Bill Murray. You can lipread him saying, "WOW". To honor Clapton at his festival by doing a Derek and the Dominoes tune was a brilliant choice. The recent release of their whole live recreation of the Layla album really tops it off. And Trey guests on it too.
Cheers

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 12:08

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40 years ago today, I was up in Oregon for a good time with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. The show was a blast and the whole scene was just a lot of fun.. I had 3 tickets for the 3 shows in 1992, unfortunately it never happened.. 1982, what a great year to be seeing the Grateful Dead , with the Frost ,Greek , Ventura, and December Oakland shows, it was fun times. Hopefully, some of these Bay Area shows will be released some day.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 18:23

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I think you described the Dead's story very nicely in just a few words. To me they didn't just embody the American spirit, they imbibed it and reflected it back to us in the form of music. And they lived a free lifestyle exactly how they wanted to live it.

I have seen the breathing walls!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 18:53

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....Last Five
McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run.
The Jayhawks - Tomorrow The Green Grass.
GOGD - Dave's 30 Bonus. Fillmore East 1.3.70.
The Warning - ERROR.
Tedeschi Trucks Band - I Am The Moon Vol IV : Farewell.

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 07:17

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“Best of” and “Greatest” designations when assessing art and music are pretty ludicrous yardsticks to use, such as in the Grammy awards and other such nonsense, but I have to admit, it would be hard, if not impossible, to claim TTB’s four-part opus “I Am The Moon” not THE best music to be released in 2022. It is absolutely transcendent, beginning to end. If it was Sun Tzu that taught that a warrior’s greatness is measured by the strength and cunning of his enemies, then by that thinking, this suite is all the more remarkable when measured against all the incredible music also released this year.

Although I have their library, and definitely enjoy their music, I was ambivalent about their standing as a premier musical act, but I gotta tip my hat to them for this one. It is an absolute gem. A live reading of this four-parter would be a show for the ages.

My only kicker: This all would have made a killer double album. But once the marketing people get a foot in the door…

“A Charlie Brown Christmas” 5 CD set! 5 CDs!!!!!
The marketing people….

Godspeed to the stuffed Snoopy dog aboard Artemis 1, as it attempts it’s launch to the moon today.

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 14:13

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I did also see Bill Murray off to the side in that video footage too. I was just stuck on Clapton's reaction. Still it was defintiely cool to see Bill Murry enjoying things. I need to check out that TTB Layla Revisted album. I have been working on few projects that involve listening to a bunch of live shows so I have been occupied with that. When I get chance, I am going to give it a listen.

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Submitted by marye on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 15:20

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yes, you do need to check that out. It's pretty incredible. (So were TTB with Los Lobos at the Greek the other week, with Jerry's Alligator guitar.)
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 16:00

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C'mon, after 50 years, I was just getting over the breathing walls and ya had to mention them... Dang it!

As for Snoopy, a classic Rosie Magee pic of Pigpen shows his Snoopy pin on his greasy corduroy hat, plain as day. So maybe a piece of Pigpen's soul is heading to the moon on Artemis. (Though none of the reasons given for our return to the Moon make any sense to me. Except to stake our claim in the face of China's interest, which unfortunately smacks of militarism and control...)

And as for TTB, I keep tellin' ya, that's the hottest band on the planet right now. If they've got Los Lobos in tow, that's THE package. At least according to me, and, as you well know, I've never been wrong before...

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Submitted by J3FF on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 17:06

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 18:41

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....twenty-four songs, and not a bad one to be found. Very impressive. I raise my glass to you.
And J3ff. It's due to the 80 minute time limits on the CD format.
Deadworld problems.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 21:49

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35 years ago, I was up on the Eel River to see Jerry Garcia put on a fantastic show, one set acoustic, two sets electric. What a fantastic spot, up in the Redwoods in the mountains right on the Eel River. It was definitely electric, what a swinging party.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 00:15

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Yes it's a gripe of mine too,I did mention this several Dave's Picks ago, when I was reminded of the Road Trips series of fragmented shows.
I am grateful to have the 2 shows on 3 discs,but it does annoy me at having to break off listening to a show to change discs.I do not have the means to re arrange the songs on a computer,& besides I enjoy the HDCD resolution.
As much as I enjoy my vinyl in my opinion the Grateful Dead live recordings are more enjoyable to listen to via CD, as you are not changing record sides between certain flows of the music.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 04:31

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Conversely, I do enjoy listening to live Dead on vinyl. It seems to make me focus a bit more. I don't listen to whole shows in one go- in about an hour I will have some lunch, and maybe listen to 2 sides of an L.P. That will be it for me for music for a few hours - I'll go off an do something else, and tune back in a few hours time, but again just for 40 minutes or so.
I don't listen to music during the core of the evening - but about 11.00pm...that's when cds come in handy. Sit back and let it all wash over me for a few hours.
With fragmented shows, I don't mind so much as long as it is clearly labelled on the sleeve what music comes from what show. Some of the earlier ones didn't do this - so you have to get Deadbase down to work out where different songs come from. If you can be bothered. The Dicks Picks from late July early August 1974 comes to mind-but there are quite a few.
And although Dave's Picks 43 works really well for me as a whole - I don't think it's necessary to fill every second of every cd with music. I have never liked fillers. Many of the greatest albums from the past clocked in at little more than half an hour. Quality-not quantity is the key, for me.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 06:57

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I have received your Pick numbered 43. Cool music BUT, you really have a lot of nerve squeezing the absolute MAXIMUM of Dead music possible onto 3 cds(just under 4 hours worth).
As you may know, if us Dead Heads can’t listen EXACTLY the way we wish, and you know what way that is, then I’d rather have NOTHING!!
I love the Dead sooooo much, that if I can’t listen to a whole show, complete and in order, and not have to get up off my a$$ to perhaps change a disc, then you can forget it, the deal is off!! How DARE you give me 2 shows for the price of 1, of this band I love sooooo much. I’d rather just have 1 90 minute show, spread over 3 discs, IN ORDER, so that my entitled, lazy a$$ does NOT have to move while I am listening.
A rational person might think “oh my God”!! I’m getting 2 COMPLETE shows(minus 1 song) instead of 1, for the same price!! But no, we Dead Heads don’t want more music. We want LESS music, and only if it’s presented PERFECTLY. Perfect sound, NO PATCHES, no dropouts, in proper order, so that all I have to do is push 1, ONE button, and then I can laze back, stoned to the gills, and forget about life and how hard it is to be alive.
We want LESS music, PERFECTLY prepared, the less music the better, so long as it’s PERFECT, at least to me. Because after all, you ARE doing this just for me, right?? Seeing as how I’m the MOST important person in the universe.
To those who are Grateful to have the MAXIMUM amount of Dead music, no matter how poorly it’s presented, well, you happen to be so so wrong. And of course I am right!!
It must be so sad to not be me.

I have SPOKEN!! This is the truth, so sayeth the Lord.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 07:40

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is easily one of the best releases of the entire series. And it is still not good enough because of the song sequencing?

What a joke.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:08

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For packing 2 grate shows onto 3 80-minute CD’s.
And for putting that missing Cold Rain and Snow on a future release.

Fortunately for me, I learned how to use a computer in the 1990’s, and now in 2022 can rearrange the order of digital music files.

As an alternative, some CD players let you program the order that tracks are played.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:18

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No offence but it's only my opinion, if I prefer to sit on my backside and listen to a whole show in order that's my choice.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:25

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I see the next Sonic Journals is by the Chieftains.
It is already available to order from Amazon UK and I’ve ordered it.

Glad to see these guys getting love over the last couple weeks. I had the good fortune to see TTB at the Greek in LA, then MMJ at Red Rocks for the Saturday show. Both killer shows. Every time I want to whine/complain about something my life or something in the world at large, I immediately flash back to these 2 shows within 8 days and tell myself to STFU.

As Vguy is wont to say, "Music is the Best."

As Patterson Hood of the DBT sings, "It's fuckin great to be alive!"

Yes, Patterson, it sure as fuck is.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 09:25

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...to see the expression of different opinions about song sequencing and filler met with scorn and ad hominem attacks. It's one of the things I like least about this site.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:00

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Was Pig's Snoopy pin the one with sunglasses? Joe Cool was my favorite Snoopy alter-ego, followed closely by the WW1 flying ace. I had the Snoopy Cowabunga on a surfboard poster in my room when young. Hallmark has made thousands off of my family and I as Shultz cards are still our favorite greetings. As I got a little older the Lange ski "Tips Up" girl poster moved in next to Snoopy. Mom was OK with it likely because Lange girl's nipples were airbrushed out.
Gotta go with Charlie3 on today's comments although I got a good laugh out of Mr.Ones, who by the way is I believe the originator of Music Is The Best. I did have to listen in corrected order but like Daverock I usually have to break it up anyway so no biggie.
Cheers all!
Edit: Last 5
Airto - Seeds on the Ground; The Natural Sounds of Airto (an RGM reissue), cool smooth jazz w/ Ron Carter on bass.
DaP 43 - Excellent recording. Very enjoyable with the acoustic. IMHO no way the best Dave's, sorry just not my era.
Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Little Feat - Time Loves a Hero
All on LP except DaP 43

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:30

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I have to figure the Snoopy stuffed toy and 3 manikins (now known as “Moonikins”) aboard Artemus 1 are relieved to get a reprieve from launch, at least until Friday. I guess these aren’t just random manikins pulled out of a Macy storefront window (“Your country needs you!”), but fairly elaborate robots that will gauge all the pressures and hazards of space travel expected for when the Artemus project goes to manned space flight (including putting the first woman on the moon. NASA declined my offers of “Take my wife, please”). These “dummies” were going to be enduring 26,000 MPH thrust just to escape the Earth’s gravity. I thought my brother’s old dressed-up Mercury Cougar hauled ass! This Artemus project is pretty “Holy Shit!” stuff.

As for DaP 43, I’ll just agree with others that it may be one of the best of the series, and I respect others may not agree. But TWO prime Dark Stars!!! This DaP 43 is pretty “Holy Shit!” stuff!

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:45

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Funny how some people seem to get a bit humpy if they see a point of view expressed that isn't in accordance with their own.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:48

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I think I heard that Artemus does 17,000 mph in 8.5 seconds.
ThatMike, I loved the Rodney Dangerfield reference.
I had a buddy that had a (67?) Mercury Cougar XR-7 with the 428 Cobra-Jet. This was around 1975-6 so it was well used by then. But it WAS fast.
He wrapped it around a tree in like a month after buying it.
I've always said if I'd have had a fast car I'd be dead already.
Fastest thing I've ever had is my inherited '95 Mercury Grand Marquis.
My first V-8, likely does 0-60 in maybe 11 seconds? It's a boat but no anchor in the trunk. But it rides nice and gets 30mpg on the highway.
Cheers

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Submitted by J3FF on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 11:03

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Sorry for disturbing you under your bridge there... but good job disproving the stereotype that Dead fans are kind.

I'm not sure why someone would take such personal offense to my request that the shows be presented in the original sequence. I'm not trying to deprive anyone of anything--if it really were not possible to fit both shows in the correct sequence on 3 discs there's no reason they can't do it on 4 discs... (there's a 153-disc collection of the complete works of Bach that sells for $125 so I don't think it can be that expensive to toss in an extra disc.)

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 11:29

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My older brother once drove his Cougar from my parent’s home to a friend’s cabin in a rural area in under 45 minutes, a drive that normally would take 2 hours and fifteen minutes if you followed the limit. As he had this car in the 70s, and had recently moved out of the family home, I forget all the specs on it, but he loved the speed of this thing, and while he crashed a few things, including a beautiful BMW Motorcycle on a speed track (amazingly just breaking his collarbone), he never wrecked the Cougar. Scary car, scarier driver.
I read Artemus 1 will be re-entering the Earth’s atmosphere at 17,500 miles an hour! Check those Moonikins for diapers!

Captcha: And a big yellow taxi come and took away my old man

J3ff’s comments to Dave of:
(Read the whole post for context of these quotes)

“ is this how YOU listen to these shows?”

“ If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead”

“ then you are not really respecting the rest of us”

“ just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please”
(How do you know what Jerry intended? Jerry wasn’t the sole decision maker of the band)

Can come off as more than just an opinion, but also as another attack on Dave.

In my alternate opinion this was the correct decision as a means to get these 2 shows released at the same time, even if the Cold Rain does have to be included in a later release.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 12:14

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Mike, My sister's boyfriend in 1968 drove his E-type Jag from St. Louis to Denver, a trip of 850 miles, in under 9 hours. Mostly at night with only gas stops, he said he did 100+ mph as much as he could. Cannonball Run! That's what love will make you do! (One of my favorite JGB tunes. Who does the original? David Bromberg does one too.)
Cheers

Some of you guys act like you're Dave's girlfriend or something.

Let me know where Dave is available to field gently-worded input please, because I haven't found it yet... if you send an email to Dead.net you get no reply; if you send a Facebook message they send an automatic reply trying to sell you stuff...

I will admit that my post expresses frustration with the folks selling this stuff. In addition to the non-responsiveness, there have been some truly baffling and annoying decisions in the assembly of these shows. On disc 2 of Dave's Picks 41 (only 32 minutes long BTW--so much for jam-packing the discs) we go from the 5/26/77 show to 7/19/90 (?) for two minutes of post-Not Fade Away audience chanting before starting U.S. Blues before returning to 5/26/77 on the next disc. What possible reason is there to include the chanting as part of "U.S. Blues"? Or a 1990 song on a 1977 show? (or is that a typo on the disc?)

It's weird that some of you want to mock me for valuing the song order that the band originally chose... but act like the order Dave randomly chose is sacred.

I'm happy for you guys that download these and re-assemble them in order but I don't think that's a valid justification for not putting them in order in the actual product being sold.

If Dave is offended by the tone of my post please let me know-- you should have access to my email. I'll buy you a beer.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 12:51

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35 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre to see Garcia and Bonnie Raitt put on a nice show. Proudfoot, the Eel River show was really something special in a very special place. People were diving from high clifts into the Eel River, you would see the trails of the divers as they went off the clifts. Electric was the appropriate word , if you were not, you were in the minority. Garcia really played great. I can't say that I've ever been in a cooler place to see music, up in the Redwoods in the mountains. I've missed some cool shows in the past, but I didn't miss this one.

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