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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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September 28, 2022 - 6:45pm

#291

proudfoot

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A tasty little show
September 28, 2022 - 6:21pm

#292

proudfoot

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Billy the kidd

He shoots he scores again

68 nw tour...yeah..
September 28, 2022 - 4:00pm

#293

That Mike

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Jack

Jack - I wouldn’t put $ on the Sabres to win it, but I do believe they are an up and coming team. And I really like that black & red “Dominik Hasek” jersey. As for a Canadian team winning it all…
Freezes over!
;)
September 28, 2022 - 3:59pm

#294

billy the kiddd

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Releases I would like to see

I would like to see the whole Garcia 1987 Lunt- Fontanne Theatre run, acoustic and electric released in one box set.. The whole October 1974 Winterland run both audio and video released as a box set. Release the 1968 Grateful Dead tour of the Great Northwest, ( those tapes may be in Owsley's banana boxes). All the acoustic and e!ectric sets from the Fillmore West in 1970,( I'll bet those tapes are in the banana boxes). Single releases, 2/17/79 Oakland, 9/11/81. 7/13/84 Greek. , 10/9/82, 10/10/82, 4/27/85, 4/28/85 Frost. Just a short list, many more I'd like to see released
September 28, 2022 - 3:47pm

#295

Angry Jack Straw

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All good brother

Mike seems to think the Sabres have a good young team this year. Vegas disagrees. The odds makers give them the same chance as the Kraken to win the Stanley Cup. Not that I won’t watch, but I think I’m siding with Vegas on this one. Sorry Mike.

Colorado has a very strong chance of repeating. Since my Red Wings still suck, I’ll be backing Canadaland. Don’t let me down Mike. It’s been 30 years.
September 28, 2022 - 1:36pm

#296

Oroborous

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Non taken

I know what you ment.
I was teasing you ; )
I ment I didn’t “hate” them as much as you lol.
I didn’t hate them, but I wasn’t a big fan, just words, no ill intent
September 28, 2022 - 1:23pm

#297

Angry Jack Straw

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Terminology

Oro,

I use “hate” the same way I say, “I want to kill that guy” when someone cuts me off in traffic. No offense intended in either situation.
September 28, 2022 - 12:47pm

#298

Oroborous

Joined:
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Psychoacoustic enhancement/jerseys

AJS: hate is a strong word but yeah those jerseys weren’t my favorite. I think I was in the minority but I did really like the return to the classic colors but with the “slug” logo in the aughts I believe? Nothing beats the classic ones though.

COMPONENTS: are you happy with your sound? Unless your really unhappy with things, the urge to upgrade might just be upgradeitus. Though there have been technological advances, power Amps and speakers, if made well, do not necessarily have to be upgraded.
Physics is physics, but the current trends often try to employ reimagining the wheel which sometimes fosters noticeable improvement (but usually requires mucho denaros), but more often not.
A really well built set of speakers, still in good functional condition, especially if you like them, do not have to be upgraded, unless in the sense that you had say more budget consumer grade ones and could afford/wanted to get higher quality ones. I.e., those old cheap beat up entry level ones you got in collage but can now afford a new set of higher end ones. Even then, higher price is NOT a guarantee of higher quality/performance!
And always consider the laws of diminishing returns, although that can work both ways.
But as previously mentioned, maintain and keep an eye on speaker age issues (see back a few pages).

Same with a really well built amplifier.
Sources and pre amps and I’m guessing many of you use a multichannel “surround” set up for all your AV needs utilizing an AVR or Audio Video receiver, not so much.

If you can afford it, my opinion is you buy a really good separate Amp and speakers, but perhaps don’t go hog wild with the rest, unless you have the ways and means, but don’t feel obligated.

Why: physics and obsolescence. No matter how much folks today try to reinvent the wheel, physics is physics and the way most audio works is inherently related to it and thus changes little.
Sure they’ve made great improvements in class D amplification etc, but my experience is for a high end critical listening system Class D just doesn’t sound as euphonic as well built traditional amp formats (A or A/B).
Now these are generalizations, as of course there are exceptions in certain circumstances…
The situation is the boss! And your situation may vary.

But, it is usually true that your system is only as good as the weakest li n k

Since sources: Blu-ray, DVD, CD players, streamers etc, and receivers that also switch/pass video, or basically most modern digital gear all become obsolete so fast nowadays, these you might not need/want to drop too much money on since you’ll need to upgrade it sooner than later.
A common trick I’ve used for my surround system is to either do your HDMI switching via the TV or a dedicated HDMI switcher, not an AVR. Why, if you have good speakers and multichannel separate power amp, you can still use your perhaps outdated, but top quality pre pro or preamp for the audio. How you ask? Most Blu-ray players have 2 HDMI outputs just for this reason: one for video, one for audio. Most Cable and Sat boxes only decode Dolby Digital so you can use the coax digital output to your legacy pre amp (as long as it at least has digital inputs) and get the same signal.
If your gear is even older, you can use the analog out, but the DAC sets in these boxes, (computers, and most inexpensive equipment) are very cheap and extremely low quality.
This way you only have to occasionally upgrade the HDMI switcher (or TV) at usually a much lower cost than replacing a whole AVR with its pre amp/processing section, it’s power amp section, and all the other often useless crap they put in them. Most receivers only pass thru the video signal anyway, so to pay to replace the rest just to get the most updated video switching is inefficient and often unnecessary.
So the idea is to not be stingy about your amp (s) and speakers (your back end) since a good set will usually always play well and sound good with most decent front ends, and will likely last much longer than lesser ones.
I have some old McIntosh stuff that still kicks ass after decades, and I could sell for more than I payed!
I almost suffered from upgradeitus recently.
Since I can get things often at cost, I was interested in upgrading my approximately 30 year old C 40 preamp for a new one. But my ole gear head buddy, electrical engineer, and all around partner in crime BITD BOO469 talked me off the ledge mostly by asking me why. We both ended up realizing that for my 2 channel system, since I already have an expensive separate DAC: why would I pay simply for digital inputs I don’t really need. Would the analog section alone of the new pre be better or worth the cashish, than my old, probably built better purely analog preamp…probably not.
Also, since my old pre is completely analog, I theoretically could be paying for digital circuitry etc at the expense of the analog circuitry.
Everything has a build budget so the more stuff they put in a unit, is that much less money left for other things in the unit.
That’s another reason to consider separates. Separates USUALLY (all gear is not equal!) have better quality components, specifically engineered for only one or few tasks, especially power supplies, which is one of the most important parts of ANY gear! So better quality parts, engineered to do one thing, (versus many things like in a modern AVR) with a beefy power supply, will usually provide better all around performance, enjoyment and longevity than normal consumer grade all in one components. With class D amps it’s all about the PS so shop carefully!

So no matter what your into, or throw at it, a system with a good back end, sufficient for your type of use/requirements, that you would like to have/enjoy for many years, can be a sound (pun intended) investment. Spending large sums of money on gear that is probably obsolete before you get it home, and has components you don’t need because of redundancy of separates, is not recommended unless you can afford it and are that into having the latest and greatest.

Pay up now for good back end and it will save you money in the long run. The other stuff is a necessary evil, but be wary of obsolescence! And you can upgrade if/when you need or can afford, and have more to spend if you have good back end that doesn’t need replacing!
Also, follow the simple free tips we offered back a month or so on here about proper system placement and set up. Often this will give you as much noticeable positive changes, or more, than electronic upgrades.

GARY: have you a/b tested the HDCD, is the improvement HDCD, or just the new player itself, curious?
And 80 hertz is a starting point. Play around with your cross over frequency and the slope or roll offs as your specific room will effect bass as much or more than components.
My 2 channel has no subs as I don’t usually like subs with just stereo although with stand or smaller speakers they can be an improvement if used properly (whole nother long discussion there as most people do not). And my theatre speakers easily go down to at least 30hz (rated conservatively) and sound great in the room their in. So to use a sub normally, I’d have to roll them off a bit which I don’t like. So I only use my diy (old bass playing cab) of 2 15” JBL E140s, crossed over with a Furman crossover, powered by a dedicated Crest amp (approximately 800 watts) for LFE, or low frequency effects only. The JBLs don’t extend as low as I wish, but by adjusting the crossover manually while using I can dial in just the right amount depending on the mix etc. I usually xover around 30-40 hertz as I’m only trying to enhance the lows, not overpower, and my cab gets too midrange and/or overdriven if I run frequency too high. But I’m getting away from the main topic.
Same with those pile drivers. Your friend is right, different speakers may or may not affect the overall speaker impedance (their usually not exactly 4 or 8 ohms, and can actually vary with conditions), synergy, balance, timbre, and more. Trial and error is unfortunately usually the only way to find out!
Ok, hopefully I haven’t confused anyone or completely bored.
But obviously us geeks could go on all day lol.

Remember, if it’s worth playing, it’s worth playing loud, but loud must be clean to be enjoyed! ; )

EDIT: don’t skimp on conversion either!
Digital is not the problem conversion is! So consider a good separate DAC which should also not need to be upgraded so much, or, make sure you buy a pre amp or receiver with a good DAC set!
You can ridiculously upgrade the sound of your lap top for instance for like 50 bucks for a audio quest dragonfly usb DAC.
September 28, 2022 - 12:22pm

#299

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

West coast hurricanes....

....I'm good over here.
September 28, 2022 - 11:46am

#300

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Key Largo

(The classic 1948 movie) is as close as this landlubber has ever come to a hurrican, (drop the e) as my wife's G-ma used to pronounce it. She was one of those who never evacuated although they were well positioned inland in Jacksonville and never had more than some shingles fly off. I'm sure she was one of those a little rain, a little wind folks. Rokko, Edward G. Robinson's character, was a tough guy until he felt one then scared to death of the thing. I got uneasy even standing next to a choppy sea. It's just so big it scares me. True landlubber.
I have heard that train roar though as a kid in St. Louis tornados. Fascinated me and my Mom would have to pull me away from the window because I just had to see what could make that much noise.
Best of luck FLA. Cheers

Edit: I stand corrected. My wife says G-ma was forced out by flooding from the nearby St. Johns River at least once.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Pure Jerry

That Mike, that Pure Jerry Theatre 1839 (July 29 and 30, 1977) Don't Let Go is another smoker. Can't get enough of that tune.

Mike

Without looking it up I am guessing Brody.

Robert Shaw. Yup. Way too early. His lifestyle got the best of him. Heart attack while driving home in Ireland.

That Mike

I'm going with the mayor. Dumbass gets some redemption later after he is responsible for some of the continuing deaths as he won't let them close the beaches. Big money wins again. We need those tourist dollars!
Cheers
For a favorite Jerry tune how about Mississippi Moon. Don't know if it was ever done live though. I just love the feel and mood of that one with the oboe in there. Hard to do live. For that matter the whole Compliments album is likely my favorite of his solo studios.

Amity

Jack - Good guess, but nope. It was the Mayor of the town (cannot think of the character’s name). Remember he got all panicky that these three guys - Scheider, Shaw, & Dreyfuss - would be looking for a shark during THE biggest tourist weekend of the year, ie - The Fourth of July? He almost had to be put on oxygen, he was just peaking!

Charlie - I’ll be cuing that Pure Jerry album up this coming weekend, for sure!

Edit: 1st Show! You got it! For your prize, please pick anything - anything - from Dennis’ very extensive collection! ;)

Cousins of The...

Sorry, though, if I hurt your feelings, Cousins of The...

I grew up on the mean streets where nearly every day someone in my gang would say "if you believe THAT you are being Pollyanaish." So I guess I became inured to such rough talk.

Such a cute reply, Jeff

I'm recovering from Covid, so I will admit I have a short fuse these days.
Anyway, no hurt feelings.
Peace, and....there I removed the offending line!

:D

Ha!

I hope you recover quickly and fully.

Cousins

No need to remove the colorful sign-off... now I look like I'm laughing at you being sick. ;)

Trivia Prize

Dennis do you have anything stored in banana boxes?
Cheers

6/16/82 & Let it Go FFS!

Yeah Charlie, I love that JGB show, one of my favorite tapes BITD!
Billy K on drums!
Would make a nice release, could pair with Bobs set like that Long Island 89 they released!

Speaking of not letting go:
Dude, ENOUGH already!!
You said your piece, now get out.
You stated your opinion, which is fine, then you argued your opinion in the face of overwhelming opposition ad nauseam, which is ok, but PLEASE let it go, we get it already. Sorry your not happy!
98% of the folks here totally disagree with you so let it go and move the fuck on, your ruining the vibe!
Maybe next time they’ll only give us one short show on three discs, but hey it’ll be in order!
FFS, don’t you have anything better to do? Or maybe that’s the real situation here: your bored and think this is funny?

COUSINS: be well soon!

Jeff...

That's all good, man. I don't want to add any ugliness to this otherwise fine forum.

To quote the dude from the Dead Movie...

...ST STEPHEN!!

Thanks Oro
Time to drop that topic.

Wow, Oro

I thought it was pretty clear I'd dropped it. (My last post on the issue was 14 posts before yours telling me I'm wrong and why won't I drop the issue! :D)

I only commented further beyond my original post to reply to other folks who were saying why I was wrong. I didn't realize I was supposed to shut up and not respond.

And none of my posts were as dickish as yours (FFS).

"Now now kids"....

...."Don't fight." Garcia banter quote.

Ok folks, hang on

Doesn’t anyone appreciate satire anymore?? J3ff, I hold no grudge towards you, or anyone else here. It’s that occasionally, when it occurs to me that our complaints just fly in the face of how LUCKY are are to continually receive these audio gifts, I feel the compulsion to respond. And sometimes I think human nature helps us forget how blessed we are. I have no malice toward ANYONE here. I have some favorites, just as we all do. But sometimes a contribution to this thread just gets me needing to send a vitriolic, though tongue in cheek, response. I LOVE the discussions we have here, and occasionally like to contribute. I just can’t help that my cynical Lenny Bruce or George Carlin comes sneaking out sometimes.
We are such a broad, diverse bunch. Of course we’re going to have differences of opinion. Who cares?? It would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.
Anyway, there was never a point at which I wanted to insult or hurt ones feelings. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. You can try hard as you like to hurt my feelings. It will never happen. Words are incapable of upsetting me. Well, unless it’s from an old girlfriend I still have feelings for, But I digress. I encourage good thoughtful dialogue, and the more differing the opinions, the better I like it. You know what?? Music is the Best!!

Thanks, Mr. Ones

I appreciate this follow-up post. And I recognize that my original post carried a lot of frustration at the imperviousness of Dead.net to customer feedback--even from customers who have spent thousands of dollars buying CDs of old concerts--which apparently annoyed a number of Daveheads.

But I thought at the core I was making a legitimate request.

I think satire is probably better directed at public figures or governments or drinking buddies rather than someone making a product suggestion in a product forum--especially since the satire involved comically exaggerating or misstating what I was actually saying, which seemed to inform other comments representing that I would prefer to have LESS MUSIC as long as it was in order.

I was actually asking that Dave/Dead.net/Rhino please give us an extra disc so the songs could be in order, and that I don't think it's economically out of reach to do so as represented by many other archival releases from other bands, including JGB.

I don't think anyone could sincerely oppose getting a fourth disc and both entire shows in the correct order, so a lot of people offended by my impudence instead made a straw man to argue with--saying I was asking for less music as long as it was in order.

The powers that be may not be willing to add a fourth disc under circumstances like those in Dave's Picks 43. But I don't see the harm in asking.

Owsley's banana boxes

I sure wish that they would release a list of the tapes that are in Owsley's boxes, that would be cool. Hopefully, they have the tapes from the tour of the Great Northwest in 1968 in there. It's really something to look forward to, what will be released from that box

Song Order

Not the first time Dave has done this and probably won't be the last. In fact the last time he did it before #43, was #42.

I also remember the 73 30 Trips show from San Diego.

Sure hope we get another two show 4 disc release to end the year. 91? Might be time.
Sixtus, I am impressed with your system. Maybe someday I will there. I bet you have quite the top drawer!

Favorite JGB Release

Quick and to the point before lighting up.......After Midnight, Kean College, 2/28/1980. Plus it has Hunter singing 2 tunes. Killer version of "The Harder They Come". It doesn't get any better.

Favorite J.G.B.release

The acoustic music from the Lunt Fontanne Theatre. I saw the Garcia Acoustic band in 1987 at the Warfield, and they were absolutely fantastic!

Little Milton...

Live at Westville Prison '83 (Delmark Records) is one of my fave Blues LP's of all time...

Kean college

Aye, Rasta...good stuff.

ST. STEPHEN, indeed. And "now now kids"...

...

6 22 86
Ya might not think that a show with that date would be recommended. Ya would be wrong.

September arrives tomorrow with the new boxset coming up. Yahoo!!!

I am sick to death of this hot weather in Seattle. Please cool down!!!

Rolling Stones

I recently have discovered Its Only RnR album

Pretty dang good

Also Black and Blue is better than first impression from 1979

So I put The Wall on shuffle J3FF....

....yeah. It wasn't Abbey Road, however, I'll never do that again. I think I broke a synapse lol.

FFS...

...is exactly what I thought this morning after waking with a migraine and immediately dropping and destroying my cell phone on which I run my business. FFS indeed. Spent the afternoon wasting half a day running around getting a new phone in Missoula. Tomorrow I can try to reassemble my calendar, which, of course, was entirely on my cell phone, including tracking down the phone number for the appointment that I have scheduled for some now unknown time next week so I can call and find out when the appointment is scheduled to occur. The only bright spot was listening to the Sunstroke Serenaders performing an excellent show while driving around in what passes for traffic in Missoula. Pretty sure a number of you are fans of the Sunstroke Serenaders, if not check 'em out, good stuff.

That Mike, you mentioned that the Pure Jerry had an extended Don't Let Go, and wow, forgot that it was 27 minutes, that will be getting a spin soon for sure.

Oro, cool that you are familiar with that Music Mountain JGB show, I had a tape with only Don't Let Go, the Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, and Run for the Roses along with some random unrelated tunes from totally unrelated artists.

Digging the Jaws quote-fest even though it's not my favorite movie. Here's a favorite quote of mine from a favorite movie of mine, "Hey, listen, I want somebody good - and I mean very good - to plant that gun. I don't want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his dick in his hands, alright?" Classic line, classic movie. Feel free to identify or ignore the movie and speaker.

Movie qoute....

....Chinatown? Total guess.
The Sunstroke Serenaders are tied for first with my other three favorite bands. The Warlocks, Mythical Ethical Icicle Tricycle and The Emergency Crew.
I can't believe I forgot about those cats.
I hope they made it big!
It's mesquite salmon and bacon wrapped asparagus on the menu tonight boyz and girlz!
Back in the day, we used to linq recipes here. So many roads ago.
A week to go until Leppard/Crue/Poison/Jett. Stage show looks incredible. Final stop on the tour as it should be. Granddaughter is all in. She loves Mick Mars and Bret Michaels. The next day, there is a reptile expo here. She loves snakes. Me? Not so much. But chameleons are cool and I just want a couple of geckos.

VGuy, Rasta

Vguy- "The Wall on Shuffle" 😆😆

Rasta- great call on "After Midnight"... hadn't heard that one. Listening now and it's killer.

2.28.80 Kean College....

....yes.
The Eel Box is also special to me. Especially the 8.10.91 show. Best The Way You Do The Things You Do that I've ever heard. Plus a You Never Can Tell (C'est La Vie). And a Shining Star. And a Lazy Bones. And a Struggling Man. And a Lay Down Sally.
That show had it all.
Which reminds me. I need to frame the print that came with pre-orders.

Charlie

Charlie, that is a bummer, not fun when the phone goes down.

Movie, The Godfather.
Sonny speaking to Clemenza.

DeadVikes

You are the winner, it was in fact Sonny speaking to Clemenza during preparations for Michael to kill The Turk and his police captain bodyguard in the Godfather. Watched 1 and 2 in the last month, and love them both, but I would have to go with 1 as my favorite. And yes, phone replacement sucks.

And VGuy, you get the prize for your lightning fast identification of some other names used by the Sunstroke Serenaders.

Easy Listening Earworms

Keep getting Nicolette Larson's version of Lotta Love stuck in my head on a loop...

Loving the Movie References...

Yes, Jaws is not the greatest movie ever.. Chinatown and The Godfather both surpass it by a longshot.. but in the summer of '75 that shark reigned supreme. Quint was the star in my eyes. He had grit. Farewell And Adieu Fair Spanish Ladies' indeed. Looking back it seems a bit tacky, they had major trouble with the special effects.. dated is perhaps the word I am looking for, but the timing was perfect. It's every bit as good a monster as Frankenstein, which reminds me.. a happy belated birthday Mary Shelley.

Now where were we? It appears everyone is getting along grandly.. Long drive today, might have lost a car on the way.. had to crawl back in a rental. Good thing it wasn't my car, but the owner is more than a bit distraught, happened far away from home. Got in some good '74 on the drive.. and a little May '69 for good measure. Decided to offer and eat the cost of the rental. The good news is, it was late and we somehow did not get stranded. First time I ever used Uber, they don't have those where I live. Aye.. there's aways good and bad in life. Gota admit, the transition in the China Rider pulled me through. Holy cow, 1974 GD cures all.

Farewell And Adieu Fair Spanish Ladies'. Still cracks me up, makes me want to smash a Styrofoam cup in my hands while talking like a pirate.

Rest up Cousins.. hoping a speedy, harm-free recovery finds you.

Charlie

Charlie - That is 27 INCREDIBLE minutes of “Don’t Let Go” on the Pure Jerry release! Enjoy, my friend! (As an extra, play the 5 song bonus disc “More After Midnight” that came with the Kean College release. Jerry plays like I wish he would have on more occasions- he really turns it up, and gave his axe a workout! A gem!)

PS - Now I’ve got that silly “Lotta Love” in my head! I do that to my wife occasionally- start purposely humming/singing some ear worm, and within minutes, I can hear her down the hall, or in the kitchen, singing it. “California Dreamin’” by the Mamas & Papas seems to be really effective, and has staying power.

Vguy and lizards (not the lounge type)

I had a gecko,,, I named him Art.

Where's that from?

JAWS

...speaking of which, I scored tickets for Jaws in Imax 3D this weekend with two of our kids (age 8 & 6, and yes they frigging LOVE this movie...we've watched together many many times over the years). I'm really interested to see how good the film looks in 3D, cause it's gonna be even better than the days of Avatar - so they are saying. It will also be cool to see it up on the big screen, as I was too young when it came out to get that real experience.
Quint is awesome, but Bruce takes the show.

Please carry on with your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

Sixtus

ah..

Bruce (the Shark), then Quint

Things

A little late here, had to attend a funeral. Hopefully we laid to rest the cd sequencing issue :-)

J3ff - I smiled at your Pollyanna comment about your gang. Our gang used to yell, "Gowan home your Mudda callin".
Really though felt bad for ya. Reminded me of a Bugs Bunny cartoon,,,, "dog pile on the rabbit, dog pile on the rabbit"
Would have thought you said something unthinkable like "let's nail jesus to a cross", fuck, forgot we did that! brought to mind the Solomon Burke doing Fast Train,

You had to go on the lam you stepped into no-man's land
Ain't nobody here on your waveband
Ain't nobody gonna give you a helping hand

1st and banana boxes, sorry just keep my drugs in there (like Johnny Cash). Bought a box of banana once,,,, they held no appeal.

Vguy - wall shuffle, big smile here. We talk about this one all the time at work. How can you play a sliver of the wall, let alone out of order?

Mr 1 - Lenny Bruce? Anyone watching Mrs Maisel,,,, Lenny is there.

Just as a way out, some funny blues lyrics.

Enjoy

Honey Where the money go, Honey where the money gone
Where the money go, I been working two jobs baby
Bring you all my dough, Now they say you got another man
And your leave me right away
What happened to all that cash Been keepin for a rainy day
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing I want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby where did the money go

Can't move round this old house For catalogs and shoppin bags
Meanwhile they reposess The only car I ever had
Took away my TV set And cancelled my Credit ring
Can't find those dollar bills I been keepin in a coffee can
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing that I want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby but Honey where did the money go

Baby you look so good In your brand new dress
I wondered how you paid for that Now you just let me guess
Now you say you're movin on Headin where the livin is fine
How come I get the feelin that It cost me my last dime
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing I really want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby, but Honey where did the money go

Inquiring Minds Want To Know

Dennis - In your youth, were you running with Tony and Bobby and Paulie and the other Sopranos??

Mike and my youth

I'm from Jersey, you might know an Eye-talian or two. Funny thing, though the big whine there is "not all Italians are in the mafia",,,, but all Italians tell you about their Uncle who is connected!

My one buddy, Johnny the Nose, his uncle specialized in weed and fireworks. Yes, fireworks. Illegal in NY/NJ, but Johnny boy would sell massive amounts for his Uncle (his Italian Uncle). When I was very young and shining shoes in bars, there was "Harry the Horse", had trunk loads of "stuff" all the time. Always had a load of 8 tracks for sale. Then there was Charlie, he acquired nice camera equipment and calculators when they first came out. Sold a shit load of cameras, film and calculators for him. Sold a load to teachers in my high school. My old man, though not Italians (but usually had choice things to say about the ones down the street), moved quite a bit of "warm" stuff.

Maybe I just grew up poor-ish. Like Mrs Simmel says in Python's Piranha Brother skit - Kipling Road was a typical sort of Eastend street, people were in and out of each other's houses with each other's property all day. They were a cheery lot.

Like the song says, just life on the poor side of town!

Didn't leave a horse head in anyone's bed,,,,, but may have supplied a horse or two. That's probably a buried secret so keep it to yourself.

The Jersey Stories

Your story and the characters you ran with would make a hell of a book, Dennis!! Embrace your New Jersey!

“Everything is legal in New Jersey”
From the play Hamilton,' Lin-Manuel Miranda

Dammit Charlie ; ) lol

I’ve had Lotta Love stuck in my head all morning lol.
The Neil Young version, though doesn’t Nicolette accompany?
Man, haven’t heard that in fo-ever!

My cousin Dennis, fo-git a boutit
Don’t fo-git Pussy and Silvio!
Gotta a steady job, hauling items for the mob
The pay was pathetic, it’s a shame those boys couldn’t be more copacetic!

Fucking Hunter, who else, maaaayybe Dylan, would use copacetic in a rock song!
Brilliant!

Dylan's Version

Maybe in Hurricane?
In Jersey everything's legal.
As long as you don't get caught.
Cheers

Silly?!

That Mike, I don't know what version of Lotta Love you've got stuck in your head, but that Nicolette Larson version is genuine, pure late 1970's, easy listening, gold. If you're not feeling it that way I suggest just sitting down and putting the official video on utoob on loop and settling in until that 1970's "have a nice day" smile spreads across your face of its own volition. Once you've got it, let everybody you meet today know by flashing that smile and telling them to have a nice day!

As an alternative, if you simply must get it out of your head I would suggest repeated viewing of the classic, bitter, after the love is gone, hit Fuck You by CeeLo Green off his Lady Killer album. If you can watch the first part of the video to that track, with the little kid version of CeeLo walking into the diner at the start of the video, and not crack up you're missing something that I seem to have in abundance - call it an appetite for low brow humor. After a few viewings you should be free and clear of the Lotta Love earworm. Now that you've got the CeeLo Green track in your mind, let everybody know when you meet them today and give 'em a perky ...

Oro & copacetic

I love unusual/seldom used words in songs and yeah, copacetic is one of them. Any other song use it?

Motown seems to use the word "gloom", not a rare word, but odd song word. Gloom in Wish it Would Rain and 7 rooms of gloom.

Smoke Gets in your eyes uses "Chaffed",,,, except for parties I've never "chaffed".

Other odd words?

Mike,,, that's Jersey

That's how you tell reall Jersey people. We say "Jersey", not "New Jersey".

..... where ya from? Jersey

:-)

Back to typing song titles in!

check u-boob "Choir From Hell Trip McCool"

My Mea Culpa

Hey Charlie - I wasn’t being dismissive to Ms Larsen with “silly”, perhaps I should have found a better word. Regardless, not to worry, I’ve had “California Dreamin’” stuck in my head all morning.

Dennis - My apologies- Jersey. Just Jersey. Maybe I play some music from Frank, The Chairman himself, as penance? Or some Bon Jovi (or is it just Jovi…?)

Redemption

Just finished listening to that 27 minute Don't Let Go from the Pure Jerry release, and yes it is incredible, so no worries about the use of the word "silly" in reference to Nicolette. I just couldn't resist expressing my mock horror. Hopefully nobody interpreted it as sincere condemnation for a goof about an easy listening earworm.

Regional Speech

I grew up in Orange County, NY, so that NY-NJ-PA tri-state area, so definitely some New Jersey influences on the speech patterns. And the New Jersey transplants I knew were Scott from Jersey and Andy from Jersey, no New involved. When I moved to MT it took a little while to slow down when I talked, 'cause folks out here just talk a bit slower than in NY and NJ. Other differences as well obviously, had to make some vocabulary adjustments too. One of the things that I find relaxing about the Sopranos is just hearing familiar speech patterns.

Odd words - fickle

I always liked the line "You can call me a fickle thing" in Move Over Darling by Doris Day.

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