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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1131
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    Simple must do audio rules

    There are many things that can be done to get your system set up correctly that often can facilitate noticeable performance improvements equal too or greater than any electronics! Best part, they cost little or nothing!

    SPEAKER PHASING: one of the most notorious mistakes that makes a huge noticeable difference and is super easy.
    Make sure your positive amp/receiver terminal is connected to the positive of the speaker, ON BOTH speakers!!
    So positive to positive, negative to negative etc. on both speakers.
    If one is wired opposite of the other, your speakers are out of phase which means their working against each other instead of with each other. Speakers move back and forth, or in and out. If one is wired out of phase that means one speaker is pushing air out while the other speaker is pulling back in, thus effecting bass coupling dramatically! So what you say? You will likely laugh or gasp at how much better your speakers sound (bass enhancement) when you hear them in phase after getting used to them being out!

    SPEAKER HEIGHT: the tweeter should always be placed at ear height. So if using stand speakers, measure so stand places the speakers tweeter exactly at listening position ear height. In conekids case he’s a little higher, which might effect his main position, but since he’s trying to cover 2 zones IR areas it’s a trade off. This is an example of how the situation may dictate slight tweaks, but you should at least start following these rules then tweek.

    SPEAKER PLACEMENT: optimally should form an equilateral triangle: same distance from listening position to each speaker, and same distance between speakers. This can be tweaked depending on several variables.
    Spread them out too far and you lose acoustic coupling and stereo imaging etc., too close together and your sound field collapses and you lose stereo effect etc. This is something you can play with and doesn’t cost anything.
    Obviously you should try to avoid placing objects in front of speakers…
    They should be placed along a wall, but out from the wall. Too close to the wall causes boundary issues that make bass bloated and unnaturally loud etc. Too far out from the wall and they can sound too thin (not enough bass).
    Again, depending on your speakers and other factors you can play with this until you get it right.
    Same with listening position: if you sit too close to any wall, but especially the back wall you’ll again suffer from boundary issues that unnaturally bloat/muddy bass.
    Really you should never put speakers or listening position next to a wall!

    RULE OF THIRDS: look it up. Though using the third dimension is usually not practical, the rule of fifths is and works perhaps better. What’s that you say? Divide your room into fifths. Place the speakers one fifth of the way in from the side walls, leaving three fifths between them. So a 20’ room would have the center of each speaker 4’ from the side walls with 12’ between speaker center points. Then, to form the equilateral triangle, measure 12’ from the center of each speaker to your ear position at your listening sweet spot! Depending on your speakers you may want to toe them in slightly versus having them point directly forward. Again, play around and tweek. Tweeting should be done vary slightly, sometimes an inch or two can make a big difference! Be slow and methodological.

    SUB WOOFERS: I’m not a fan of subs for 2 channel stereo, but they can be a necessity for small bookshelf speakers etc.
    Subs suffer even more from boundary issues described above! Corners are usually the worst place to put a sub woofer!
    Here’s a trick. Place your sub in your listening position and put on some bass active music you know well. Now crawl around on the floor and listen. When you find the place the bass sounds best, put your sub there. This is a cheap down and dirty way to deal with room modes, one of the biggest negative factors in music enjoyment. (Look them up).
    I have a fairly large above average system in a dedicated room, but my room is too narrow for my system so I often have horrible bass bloat issues because of these room modes etc. (funny but it’s mostly only a problem with old Dead when Phil was still playing Alembic lol). Usually I can just roll off a little of my 30 hertz eq nob on my C 40 pre amp. I have a DSP room unit that uses excellent Dirac SW, but haven’t gotten around to it (slacker).
    There are many solutions and sometimes DSP can help (but that won’t do pure analog folks much good) but often the best way to deal with many of these issues is to follow these fairly simple rules and play around with things.

    Oh, lastly. You can help smooth out your room by dampening first reflection points. There’s diffusion and absorption and more. But to keep it simple. We’ll just look at some basics.
    Have someone with a mirror move along the side wall with the mirror. The place where you can see the speaker in the mirror while being seated in the listening position is the first reflection point. Put something (all kinds of things both diy and professional) in that spot along the wall (and ceiling if you want to go the extra distance) that will absorb the sound, so that your hearing the direct sound from the speaker without the phase issues and coloration of the reflected sound off the wall. This is another simple but big improvement.
    You can experiment with placing adsorption in other obvious places like directly back from the speakers on the opposite wall. If you have a big room, perhaps look at second reflection points.

    NOTE: this is not sound proofing! That is a whole other field above and behind this tutorial. Save your money! Putting egg crates, foam, or most of the items for sale on line DO NOT WORK! They will not stop bass from passing through walls and structure! Some of these products may help the sound in the room, but will do nothing for stopping it’s transmission out of the room!

    SPEAKER ISOLATORS: another thing you just have to try. Using the pointy spikes or not for speaker feet. Sometimes they help other times you may want to isolate your speakers from the floor to eliminate too much bass and our help with transference to another room or dwelling.
    Oh, use a heavy carpet on the floor at least between the speakers and listening position if not bigger. Put this is yet another situational thing that you may have to play with.

    Remember folks: the situation is the boss!
    Hope this helps!

    HDCD: if everything is set up and functioning properly you can hear a difference. How noticeable or if noticeable will depend on your equipment, set up and ears. If you have a nice system and actually play discs, you might find some improvements but for many you might not really hear a difference, certainly not a huge difference so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Following the above mentioned rules as much as possible will!

    Oh, ps, the above assumes best case practices. As no room is perfect, and some are just plain awful, and many of us need to live with our significant others, ahem, obviously not everyone will be able to follow all of these.

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    Cnkd - It never occurred to me at the time that I could have asked for a brand new replacement. The replacement from the shop floor is better - the first one used to skip tracks out - with this one it's just the delay in registering which track is playing by about a second that's a bit odd. It plays to perfection apart from that. And really sounds good.

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    Good talk.

    More important to system?

    Listening!!!

    When I bought my system the guy told me, you will not hear what this system does, while doing the dishes, while cleaning, while doing anything else. You have to sit and listen.

    It's true.

    Sound systems and people are a funny thing. I think MOST people listen to the radio and only own a handful of cd's/albums, usually the stuff they listen to in high school or college,,,, after that they stop buying. Kids today seem to live off spot-e-fied and own nothing. I have found the largest genre in people's collection is christmas albums (go figure!)

    I think this group of people are the exception to that.

    What'd ya think?

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    Since there's a CD player discussion going on...

    For people who are listening on HDCD players, what sort of improvement can you hear in the audio? I would think there is some discernable improvement.

    I think I've listened to these shows 10x each. Moved on to others in the time period. Doing Dick's Picks 4 at the moment. I was not hardcore into the Dead when it was released. I imagine people were reacting even more positively into it than even this Dave's Picks, due to the Fillmore legend of the Feb 13 & 14 shows when it came out. Was there a discussion board up at the time to spread the enthusiasm?

    Vguy - good to see the red dice and green felt has returned - it's positively you.

    Nitecat - also digging TC's contributions on these shows. When he was "on" and audible, he really filled out their sound nicely.

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    Wow, Daverock that’s a pricey player to be malfunctioning, and then be replaced by a floor model (which apparently has the same defect). They should have given you a new one from the factory.

    I thought that my new Cambridge Audio CD player was defective but then realized that my Vizio TV remote interferes with it. I had the TV on and was going through the menu adjusting settings but every time I hit a button on the TV remote the CD player would jump tracks or stop playing. Was relieved to find that the CD player was fine.

    Nick, go with what sounds best to you.

    Last night spun the Anthem of the Sun CD that I bought in 1989 (it’s the 1971 remix) and it sounded pretty dull.
    Then put in Steppin’ Out CD3 and started at Truckin’. Sounded better, but not that great.
    DaP43 sounds far superior to those older CD’s.

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    Magic Ingredient

    To me, the best sounding recordings I ever heard were the first ones I got, between 1971 and about 1978. They were records, and what made them great was the magic ingredient. It had nothing to do with what I played them on. If your system captures that-you've got it. For me you can no more improve on that than you can The Grand Canyon

    Nick1234 - having said that, I got a Rega Saturn-R cd player about 3 years ago. And it sounds great - but the first one I bought had to go back to the shop after about 9 months, as some cds wouldn't play-and others jumped to the 3rd or 4th track when I wanted to hear the 1st one. They eventually replaced it with a display model from the shop floor. That is great - although I have noticed that half way through a cd...when the music for track 4 starts, the display unit still shows track 3 for a few seconds - it is slightly behind the music. But the sound quality is top notch. As for the magic ingredient....

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    I joke, but my wife has put up with my idiosyncrasies and such for 30 years, 36 if you count the time we were together before getting married. She deserves a medal, 'cause I am aware that I can be a difficult person to live with sometimes.

    The speakers have a clear pretty clear path to spread the sound around the space and the actual speakers are at the upper two thirds of about a 43 inch high tower, so a bit above the ground, and built to tilt ever so slightly to direct the sound slightly upward and fill the space nicely, so I exaggerate about the impediments, or more accurate to say I just get a little obsessive about the impediments to the sound.

    For tonight's classic '70s movie I went with the Godfather, the first one. I've watched it several times before but it never disappoints, I love that movie every time. A near perfect movie, weirdly gratifying.

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    While we're on the subject can I ask for a bit of advice? I'm in the market for a new system and at the moment I'm thinking of a Naim Supernait 3 amp and B&W 702 S2 speakers. I can audition these at my local hifi dealer. What CD player to accompany these? I'm not going for a turntable at the moment. I have 5 weeks to audition anything at my local shop before I move to the Shetland Islands and there's no hifi dealer there that I'm aware of so it's now or never. I'd sort of like to support Rega as their factory is about a mile from my current house but at these prices I'll go for the best fit for my ears.

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    Also point out....

    ....that at concerts, they raise the stacks on cables for maximum efficiency.

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    Point out to your wife that at concerts they don’t put the speakers on the floor, that would block the sound.

    My kitchen and living room are connected end-to-end, about 12 feet wide, so not a huge area to fill with sound. The speakers in the air project the sound into the kitchen perfectly, with the sweet spot from the front of the couch back to the island in the kitchen. Can also see the TV on the wall from the kitchen.
    It’s just me and my dog, so I can turn the volume up as loud as I want.

    I’ve had this new CD player for 2 weeks and have also been playing non-GD CD’s to see how they sound. The Cambridge Audio dealer that I got it from said that it needed about 100 hours of use to get broken in so I’ve been spinning CD’s instead of using my iBasso music player.
    Once the CD player is broken in I might then run it into the DAC via stereo RCA cables which I did at first, and it boosts the signal by about 20 dB according to having to turn down the volume, but I wanted to break it in sending the signal to the receiver.

    Spinning Rush - Exit Stage Left currently.
    This morning was Floyd - More and then Piper.
    I’m thinking next the Anthem of the Sun CD I bought in 1989, want to see if that sounds good or if it’s a victim of crappy 80’s mastering.

    The iBasso music players come with a burn-in adapter which simulates the electrical resistance of being plugged into a stereo system. You plug that in and put a show on loop and just let it run for about 50 hours, and then it’s supposed to be broken in.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Yes, here's to good health for all.

I am truly sorry for the loss of the previous child. How can a person fully come back from that?

Treasure your days, folks.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sun, 09/04/2022 - 17:13

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In Japan and there was an arena size greenhouse with monstrous tropical birds flying around and the GD was playing on a stage at the base of it all.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 09/04/2022 - 21:56

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Marrying four girls years ago and admitting to it now is not advisable during an election year.
Just saying.

On a serious note, sorry for your loss but happy that things have gone full circle. The VGuy family is alive and healthy. Good to hear..

Edit: Married into, sorry. Reading glasses....

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Mon, 09/05/2022 - 13:06

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Charles Bradley - No Time for Dreaming - fantastic raw, modern soul, Charles Bradley smokes, worth a listen
XTC - Oranges and Lemons, thanks to whoever mentioned them on here recently, been a while since I gave that a listen, good album
Khruangbin - Mordechai, I dig everything these folks have put out, they put on a cool live show too
Washed Out - Mr. Mellow, dreamy mellow vibe, as might be expected from the title, cool to chill to
Black Pumas - Black Pumas, back to the modern soul sounds and these guys do it well, just spinning it now

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 09/05/2022 - 13:10

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Rolling Stones
Its only rnr
Black and Blue
Goats head soup
Some girls
Beggars Banquet
Let it Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Tattoo you

Nirvana Bleach
Motorhead Overkill
Nirvana in utero
Nirvana incesticide

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 09/05/2022 - 13:14

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....speaking of dreams, I had one where I was married to several women. In hindsight, that was actually a nightmare. Woke up in a cold sweat.
Last Five
Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - Ghost Of A Dog
Phish - 9.3.22 Dicks Sporting Goods Park, CO
Blue Oyster Cult - Secret Treaties
Motley Crue - Girls, Girls, Girls
Neil Young - Harvest
I treasure all my step-daughters as if they were my own. It was tough sledding at first due to the fact that their moms prior boyfriends were apparently assholes that treated them like crap and their trust factor was low. But, I persisted and just tried to be a good dad. Guess it worked because they call me dad now. Except one. She's a little lost and spiteful. But my work is not done.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 09/05/2022 - 14:16

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not necessarily in this order : 1) Dire Wolf. 2) Cumberland Blues. 3) Easy Wind. 4) Uncle John's Band. 5) Attics of My Life 6). Ripple. 7). Alligator. 8).Stella Blue. 9)Brokedown Palace. 10)High Time

So are Cumberlands.

Top 10 GD Songs, impossible.. I love all my songs the same.

Eyes, Brokedown, To Lay Me Down, PITB, UJB, tossing in Morning Dew because they made it their own, Brown Eyed Women , Comes a Time (yea yea, JGB, whatever.. it's on the list), Stella, China Doll, TOO, BCE'd, New Potato, anything on the Live Dead suite, anything on Anthem/Working Man's Dead & A.B.

and I'm just getting started.

I surrender, throwing in the towel

I believe the GD are seriously under-rated songwriters. The material they wrote is rich, timeless, and classic.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 05:51

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First, thanks to all who post here on their recent music, dreams, loves and adventures, this diverse wellspring of interests most always freshens and diverts my attention towards something new. Breathing walls, three dimensional carpeting, matrices of coincidence, synchronicity, guitar heroes in the back seat. Recent talk of Miles soon to arrive 7th Bootleg Series made me go back and listen to some of the earlier ones. I would add, if you can find a copy, listen to Miles Cellar Door Sessions 1970 recording. Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, I began to run with a camera and have been searching for those photographs, for example, my first Dead show, Baltimore March 1973... have not found those yet, but did find my own images of Mahavishnu John MacLaughlin, BB King, Bob Dylan, The Band, Roy Buchanan, Tom Waits, Leslie West, ELP as well as photographs from some music festivals and anti-war demonstrations in downtown DC. There's more and too many times I did not have the camera at hand. Never pass up the opportunity to be present in the moment.

Some of us have read the long letter Robert Hunter wrote to Jerry after his passing, I just found Hunter's farewell Bob Weir spoke upon his release of Jerry's ashes upon the Ganges:

"Last Words for Jerry Garcia"
Go naked in the world, wind for your cloak and coverlet. Whom the Gods love best they reward with early death, gather them into the sun, reflect them in moonlight, crown them with comets, annoint them with shooting stars. Go naked to the Throne of Love, go as the stars go, arrayed in their own incandescent light. Go and our hearts go with you. Return to the source of the soul by way of the Sacred River, royal road to the sea where all shall be music and dreams shall be dreams no more, but visions of the World's foundation scattered among stars. Dust shall be dust and the voice of dust shall be music, pleasing to God who sent it forth in search of melody to crown His silence with eternal song.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 08:40

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Catching up on some purchases from months ago.
Garcia Live Vol. 7 at Sofie's Palo Alto.
Tapes from Donna's storage.
Keith is SO good in this type of presentation.
And Donna can hear herself and jumps right in.
Her Muscle Shoals and gospel roots just shine.
Who Was John, Strange Man, Stop That Train,
are all seldom heard and choice cuts!
Cheers

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Submitted by frosted on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 12:00

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I know someone's got to be a true Deadhead when they explicitly list New Potato Caboose among their favorite songs....

Most of American Beauty, then a selection from Workingman's Dead. Mountains of the Moon and China Cat Sunflower. New Potato Caboose.
I'm taking Dark Star, The Eleven and The Other One to be more jams than songs - otherwise them too, maybe at the expense of the Workingman's songs.
re New Potatao- that's a coincidence, considering the simultaneous post below this one

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Submitted by nitecat on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 13:58

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So funny... I noticed the rave reviews of the Jayhawks recently, and ordered one that was mentioned here. Two days later, at a thrift shop, what do I find, a different Jayhawks CD than I ordered!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 14:00

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So many of my choices are joined at the hip that I went with an > list:
In no particular order,
Scarlet > Fire
Estimated > Eyes
NFA > GDTRFB
China > Rider
Truckin' > Nobody's
The Other One > Wharf Rat
UJB > name your song
Playin' > name your song
Shakedown > name your song
Bertha > Good Lovin'
and the singles are way harder or just today's idea as there are just too many
Smokestack Lightning
Sampson & Delilah
Black Throated Wind
Cumberland
New Minglewood
New Speedway Boogie
Friend of the Devil
Attics
Standing on the Moon
Days Between

That's all I got (today), Cheers

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Submitted by nitecat on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 14:00

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First Show, I love that Sophies show! Kieth is really playing great and very prominent in the mix, thanks to Betty!

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 14:10

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It's hot here. Temperature wise, I imagine the hottest Grateful Dead show I ever went to ,was probably the Oregon Country Fairgrounds 8/28/82. or One of those shows up at Cal Expo, it gets pretty hot up in Sacramento.

....I'm sure one of those was the hottest shows I attended. Once you go over 110 on the floor, it doesn't matter anyway. The only time I recall Garcia wearing sandals. Veneta? Ptth. I would have reveled in that heat. Lots and lots and lots of water and sunblock. A few of those shows had awesome storm cells that cooled it down though.
I caught every one of them....
Edit. Just found out Jeff Beck is playing Vegas Nov 4th. Hmmm.
Tix price edit. $200?

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Submitted by deadfeat1 on Wed, 09/07/2022 - 14:55

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The Sept. 6th edition of Paste has an enjoyable article about TTB's I Am The Moon.

I can't come up with a top ten list of favorite Dead songs, but Wharf Rat is my all time favorite - right up there with Spanish Moon by Little Feat...

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 09/07/2022 - 15:01

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I was just tuning into this new Brit spy vs spy show on Apple TV called “Slow Horses”. Normally you can skip the opening theme (thankfully) once you watch it through once - I’m listening to this theme song, and hey, you, get off of my TV! That sounds like Mick Jagger. No - that is Mick Jagger, singing some song I’ve never heard. Quick search on the net, and yup, he has written and performed the theme for this show, something he calls “Strange Game”.

Top Ten Dead Tunes? Yikes! Monday’s list would be completely different than Tuesday’s list, which wouldn’t at all match Wednesday’s list, or come close to what you choose Thursday…

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 09/07/2022 - 20:15

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What a bargain it was! 41 years ago today I was out at the Concord Pavillion to see Jerry Garcia put on a great show , admission to the show was $1.00. Queen Ida and her Zydeco Band opened the show. We had our tickets. for the first run at the Greek Theatre, only four days away. Fun times!

Haven't got Apple TV so can't watch Slow Horses....but the whole series of Slough House books by Mick Herron are brilliant. Very funny with great characters

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 05:09

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Mornin', rockers!!

Favorite originals: Dark Star, Other One, Saint Stephen, The Eleven, New Potato Caboose, Truckin', China Cat, Easy Wind, New Speedway Boogie, Black Peter, Cumberland Blues, Friend Of The Devil, Dire Wolf..........

Favorite covers: Hard To Handle, Dancin' In The Streets, Viola Lee Blues, Not Fade Away, Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, Next Time You See Me, Morning Dew..........

Songs I never did handle very well: Casey Jones, Attics Of My Life, Row Jimmy, Stella Blue, China Doll, anything Brent....

Just sayin'..............

Rock on,

Doc
But I believe above all that I wanted to build the palace of my memory, because my memory is my only homeland.....

I intentionally left out combos (S>F, H>S>F) as they take up multiple picks.

Bertha
Bird Song
Brown Eyed Women
The Eleven
Eyes
HCS
Jack Straw
Mountains of the Moon
Rubin & Cherise (Yup. JGB song , but I had to put it in since they played it)
Terrapin
The Other One
To Lay Me Down
Wharf Rat

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 10:35

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Born on Sept 8th 1945 in San Bruno Calif., Pig Pen would have been 77 years old today. My favorite songs that Pig Pen did, Alligator, Hard To Handle, Big Boss Man, King Bee, Smokestack Lightning, Mr Charlie, The Rub, Next time you see Me, and of course Easy Wind, one of the greatest Grateful Dead songs of alltime, that was played far to few times. The Dead were never the same after Pig Pen left them. Hopefully today he's hanging out with some of his favorite blues musicians like Lightning Hopkins, Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 12:16

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New picture on that page with the opened box itself.
Doesn't look like it will fit on the shelf. Kinda long?
The artwork is fun!
Cheers
Edit: Got the Sept. bulletin email now with the "unboxing".
Community Bits cites the same thing I found (Sept. 3 post on this thread) on the fake WakeOTF LPs. I checked. Mine's good.

P.S. Why does the Lyceum box page have no listening party?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 13:09

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....add this to the list of things that make me go "hmmmm".

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 14:21

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Anybody heard about this new release of the 4/26/69 L.A. Forum show ? I have just had an email about it - supposed to be coming out in November from Experience Hendrix. Looks terrrrrific.

A favourite Dead cover of mine is Death Don't Have No Mercy - that version on Live Dead is incredible.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 15:57

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£28 pre- order from that South American river online name, I'm tempted I know nothing of the history of the recording but judging by the previous vinyl releases from the estate it should be worth it. I haven't got around to listening to the newly arrived latest Bears Sonic Journals of The Chieftains it appears to be in a deluxe booklet style package.
Not long now before the dispatch of MSG box set either,hoping to have it before the end of this month.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 15:58

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£28 pre- order from that South American river online name, I'm tempted I know nothing of the history of the recording but judging by the previous vinyl releases from the estate it should be worth it. I haven't got around to listening to the newly arrived latest Bears Sonic Journals of The Chieftains it appears to be in a deluxe booklet style package.
Not long now before the dispatch of MSG box set either,hoping to have it before the end of this month.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 20:37

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the majority of this show was on the Reprise Box Set "Lifelines"....and various boot sbd's have been released too...But I will definitely grab this CD set ($12 on the SA river system)...and before you ask Oro...yes...I was at this show...

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Submitted by frosted on Thu, 09/08/2022 - 22:58

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Sorry, no way I can keep it under 30 or so, so I'm going to lay it out a little differently. Even then, I still left out another 20 or more of my besties. These are all ones that I almost always like to hear, rather than feeling so-so about them or having to be in the mood to get into them.

My favorite rock tune presentation, not just from the Dead but from any rock band, which I think was also the most original and ahead of its time group of songs ever strung together. This first one is to me the very essence of the Dead:

1969

Dupree>Mountains>Dark Star>St. Stephen>Eleven>Lovelight

Favorite other combos strung together:

Scarlett/Fire

China Cat/Rider

Estimated/Eyes

Not Fade Away/GDTRFB

Help on the Way/Slipknot/Franklin

Cumberland Blues/Big River

Best Evolution from pretty good to great tune over a few years:

Hard to Handle

Best old timey Ballads:

Jack a Roe and Peggy-O

Most underrated:

Operator, Second that Emotion, and Oh Babe it ain't no Lie

Favorite outright rockers:

Deal and Bertha

Favorite cowboy tune:

El Paso

Favorite country-ish tunes:

Friend of the Devil, Brown eyed Women, and Dire Wolf

Favorite early cover tune:

Baby Blue from 1966 (?) History of the Dead

Best songs of the road:

Jack Straw, He's Gone, and Mississippi Half Step

Most haunting tunes:

Morning Dew and Death don't have no Mercy

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 09/09/2022 - 08:45

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Top ten: a fools errand!

I mean Dark Star, Stephen, King Solomon’s Marbles, Help-Slip, Blues For Allah, New Potato, Brown Cross Eyed, Victim or the Crime, What’s Become of the Baby, 74 Eyes, 74 WRS, Days Between, Antwerps Placebo, Serengeti, Terrapin Station,
Attics, Ripple, Saint of Circumstance…that’s just trying to get started, they doesn’t include covers, most of the ballads, or anything else!
Fools errand I say!
So what’s the best ten songs…the last ten I heard!

DOUBLE HA!
Of course Nappy was there 😃

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Fri, 09/09/2022 - 09:53

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So I read this book called The End of Time. It was about physics. I understood almost none of it. But the tldr version goes something like this: eventually, the sun will expand and vaporize the Earth, all the stars will explode, and entropy will cause all matter in the universe to be so widely dispersed that there will be no light, no heat, no life nowhere (like Jimi sed!), and Time will End. Which, to me, suggests that we should all forget whatever minor shit is bothering us right now and just enjoy the miracle of conscious being while we can.

(Yes, fuck it! That’s your answer to everything, isn’t it Mr. Lebowski?)

(Well, yeah.)

One of my favorite exercises in time travel is to search Youtube for tapes of local TV coverage of dead concerts in the early ‘80s. At that point, the Dead was mostly unknown to mainstream America, and the good people of Des Moines or Salt Lake City didn’t know quite what to make of several thousand tied-dyed and tripping heads descending upon their downtown areas. So you get these local news reports where you get the Guy in the Blazer doing a live shot from the parking lot and talking to the viewers about the “Dead heads” (you can see the air quotes around the words) and relate with amazement to their viewers the amazing spectacle of people lined up days early, playing hacky sack (still then unknown in the provinces) and selling grilled cheese for a buck. (What the fuck?) Sometimes you get a brief interview with a head or two and maybe even 5 seconds of the band onstage.

There’s lots of ‘em, and they’re awesome. As far as the whole scene goes, the early ‘80s were kind of a sweet spot for me. We were all part of a self-contained bubble that was big enough that it was beginning to draw the attention of outsiders, but small enough to still be self-policing and generally reasonably under control. (Unlike late ‘80s and beyond, when shit got seriously outta hand on occasion.)

No way can I list favorite Dead songs. It’s too too too too too to put a finger on.

A big THANK YOU to everybody who posted about Little Feat recently. Hadn’t listened to ‘em in years, and it’s been such joy to revisit. Music is the best.

There’s a fat man … in the bath tub … with the blu-ooh-ooh-oohs

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 09/09/2022 - 09:57

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....as some of you know, I was a metalhead before a deadhead. My granddaughter and new hubby flew down from Reno last night to attend a wedding gift I got them. Def Leppard/Motley Crue/Poison/Joan Jett tonight at Allegiant Stadium. It will be her first real concert as well as my sons.
Saw Poison in a little club here in Vegas in '84 right before they made it big. Seen The Crue once back in '86 I think opening for KISS? Or maybe Ozzy. Never seen Def Leppard or Joan.
The general consensus of the the tour in internet land are mostly positive and Vegas is the last stop. Lots of concern on whether Vince Neil's voice could hang, but hes doing it. Vocal trainers for the win! Looks almost sold out except for the nose bleeds. Rock On!

Unfortunately Crow I don’t think we’ll make it that long (mankind, not “us” specifically) as we seem hell bent on destroying our beautiful home. The planet might live on, but the way we’re going about it…

But I totally agree with your last paragraph!
Late seventies/early eighties there was a palpable sense that we were wining: we weren’t just a bunch of dirtbag good for nothing freaks like perhaps many civilians watching those old broadcasts would think, at least on first impression.
Not that we cared. Being an outcast was a important influence on my becoming a DH. When the going gets weird and all that…
I won’t say it became “popular” yet, but it started to not be a bad thing to be a head. The scene was growing, but as Crow said it was still self manageable etc. To me it peaked in 85, meaning too much of everything was just enough. It seemed like the last year before the regular stadium shows and the crowd perhaps getting too big and unfortunately all the less than acceptable behavior. Sure there were instances of this before, but it was usually frowned upon, where as later people started to think this behavior was somehow cool.
Ah, well, ce la vie, anytime something good gets big it’s usually the kiss of death.
Nothing lasts as the pranksters say!
But hey, to end on that little positive JG uptick that Keasey eulogized: it was @#&*ing fantastic while it lasted and it makes me feel beyond grateful to have been alive and young then!
“Those were the days my friends, we thought they’d never end…”

JOAN JETT: one of the weirdest Dead parings we ever saw: poor JJ opening for Bobby and the Midnights in 82 at small Rochester theatre. Fans were not interested at all and unfortunately they eventually booed her off, ya know “fuck this, where’s Bobby”, but hey, not as bad as the Hollander stadium show where the Good Rats opened and the crowd pelted them off with these little Rat souvenirs they handed out!
If you go down to Deep Elem, the DH will put you on the rocks!
Oh sweet mama, I got them Friday afternoon happys!
Happy Friday peoples, is time to crack a cold one yet 😃

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 09/09/2022 - 11:26

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The sun is over the yardarm as they say.
FAC is on!
Why do you think I'm always saying...
Cheers

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Submitted by deadmike on Fri, 09/09/2022 - 13:18

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Am I the only one who haven't recieved Dave's Picks 43 yet?

According to my tracking info my package have arrived to Fontana, California on July 27th for processing but it has never left Fontana after that. I have sent my email back to the sender and I have recieved an automatic mail on September 4th, that I will get an answer as soon as possible but no answer yet.

The alternate tracking number is usually searchable by this time through the Swedish Postal Service app by this time but nothing so far, and also nothing on the Postal Service where I can pay the Swedish tax. I wonder if I will get the DP volume this time ... it doesn't feel like it ... :-(

Micke Östlund,
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