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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 21, 2021 - 6:21pm

#4741

proudfoot

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love your comment about liking licorice, Vguy

:)))
January 21, 2021 - 2:24pm

#4742

Vguy72

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comparing Keith & Donna's last and Brent's first....

....fun fact. They repeated eight songs.
That being said, comparing the Passenger's alone is....interesting.
January 21, 2021 - 9:57am

#4743

billy the kid

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Rock thing ,great write up

Rock thing , that is a great write up on 2/17/79 you did. Big Railroad Blues hadn't been played since 1974.
January 21, 2021 - 9:29am

#4744

rockthing

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2/17/79 Second Set

PROUDFOOT, RE relieved to move on: Sounds about right.

BILLY THE KID: Nice. I thought that Greatest Story does seemed special, too. It's got tight energy, but I also don't recall hearing a Greatest Story with that free-form a guitar solo from Jerry. I was definitely startin' to think I could go for a bit more fidelity on this show, too.

THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD: Yeah, man, from Playin' on, it's anybody's guess. The tape I Downloaded has that tracked as "Playin' >", "Drums >", "Space >", like you say. Playin' isn't really known for its drum solos, but I think I'd just keep all that as Playin' until they made a definitive move into The Wheel. I realize that no one else would ever do that. There's just Space all over the second set after Playin'. The Wheel disintegrates into Shakedown. That Shakedown back into Playin', though, eh? Definitely the stuff. You can hear Jer hinting at Playin' quite a while before they actually get there. Would not want to be responsible for seeding that. Where do I cut it?!?! :)

Man, this second set jumps like a Willys in four wheel drive.

Might as Well!!!: Went to a Dead show and a Jerry Band gig broke out! Yeah! Rocketing out the gate for the second set. Might as well. This show has a seriously stacked set list imo.

Miracle: Damn. No chance to catch your breath tonight! Jerry’s soaring, then doing some crazy runs in the first solo. Pretty manic, really, just trying to make something happen. Nice ending jam too. A drummer seems to be losing his footing or a stick or something, but no one else… Whoa!!!

Bertha!: I don’t think ANYBODY saw THAT coming, least of which the band. Whoever pulled the tempo back to something sensible is a hero, because that was about to set a record. Ohp, gonna get one of those big unison hits goin’? Not yet. Pickin’ up the pace again. Phil is not giving up on the big bang… unnnnn… not quite….hahaha. Phil’s still goin’ for it. The drummers are just hittin’ all ones like they're wired as hell. This whole second set is coming off with it’s teeth grinding. Crowd cheers an almost earthquake bass bomb, but Phill still can’t quite get everyone there. Test me! GONG. Got it. Memories starting to clear. Synchronization critical. Sounds like double kicks from the drums. What is this? The lets see how many notes we can play contest?

Good Lovin’: Nice, seamless transition. Just, suddenly their playing Good Lovin’. Nice crescendos. Jerry’s boppin’ along for the solo. One of his more coherent solos so far. They seem to have a better handle on the dynamics now. This is a really, really nice performance of this tune. Bobby’s got just the right atmosphere here. He’s givin’ it everything, but not overblowing. This will be excellent if he keeps the rap under control. No danger of Bobby sellin’ the Brooklyn Bridge. Mickey goin’ crazy with some heavy percussion runs, but they are buried deep in the mix, might not even be goin’ through the main PA. Long cheers ensue. Well deserved. That was excellent. They are taking no prisoners tonight, but that really struck the perfect balance. Wouldn't normally gush over Good Lovin', but that was excellent. At this point, I think I’d almost be wishing for five minutes of tuning.

Heart of Me. Ahh, nice farewell for Donna. Nice little breather for us, too. She sounds really good. Sounds like maybe Jerry missed a chord change and his fills are a little off key at one point early on. Nice little descending flutter from Jer that one of the drummers picks up on, adding some 16th high-hat cymbal to. Wow. Really nice. The ending was superb.

Big Railroad Blues. Jerry came to rock tonight, that’s for sure. Goovin’ on the, which solo is this? They seem to have settled down a bit from the insanity that was the teeth numbing first half of the second set.

Terrapin!: Sorta slips into the hall, almost without being noticed. Not the kind of thunderous greeting it would become accustomed to in later years. This performance seems almost quaint in its simplicity. One of the drummers continues to have happy foot. Cool guitar solo leads everyone out into open space as the various counterpoints begin to emerge, everyone expanding out into their own direction before drifting gently into a little space of equilibrium. Jer’s not quite ready for the big finale. He starts to play the melody that will bring everyone out of their trance, then decides to let the ride get a little more gentle as it drifts along. There it is. Not monumental, just recombining into a gentle reading of the last verse. Ahh.. Jer’s sweet old voice… Nice build up to counting stars, but Jerry’s vocal doesn’t quite soar. Finding the right mix of harmony without building up too dramatically and the finale has begun. This Terrapin seems, somehow, understated, but it’s difficult to say exactly what gives that impression. I mean, Mickey is off the hook as usual. Nice, Phil plays the signature melody line in a high register on the bass instead of Jerry, as Jerry continues to wiggle about with all sorts of lead lines. Mickey gets a bit too tricky for his own good, but that slightly clumsy moment doesn’t trip up anyone else.

Playin’: Just where you’d expect “Drums” to begin, nice call. Not sure I really dig the four on the floor and the open and closed high hat feel for this tune. Don’t have any particular qualms with disco Dead, or the Disco Cowboy things they did, but it feels like it’s tying Playin’ down too much. And, as soon as I type that, the bottom drops out and they out into an open ended Playin’ jam with Jer out in the echoey distance working’ the envelope filter. Really nice atmosphere here. Jerry’s makin’ sure they don’t get back to the song any time soon. Little too much kick drum in the mix is sorta harshin’ my mellow, but always happy to see a thorough deconstruction of Playin’. …and it seems to be just petering out, but then someone adds some nice textures. Almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes, but I can still hear Keith plunking away, so maybe it was Bobby… Someone in the audience hoping they’ll play I Need A Miracle, forgetting that we already heard that, what seems like several lifetimes ago. Wow. Completely abstract, now. Oh, and there IS a “Drums” track, but this feels like Playin’ with a drum solo (ok, got it), but that Playin’ jam would have definitely qualified as “Space” in a latter day show, albeit out of conventional order. Still an array of all acoustic percussion. Do I smell a Not Fade Away out of the drum solo? I see that someone has tracked this as a transition into “Space”, but all I hear are drums, still. Not hearing any “Space” here. Oh, and just as I type that, Phil joins the jam with Jerry not too far behind.

The Wheel: This setlist is a dream. Guess they didn’t have to save anything for the next night. This is a nice Wheel. They’ve really settled down into atmospheric mode after the totally outrageous start to the second set. Some cool tremolo picking from Jerry as the song breaks up.

Shakedown: Starts off a little, not a little, really… er… shaky. Nice echo effect on Jer’s guitar. Drummers haul the tempo up from the crater left by Phil’s opening bass bomb. You really get the impression that they are not working with a set list tonight. Settling in a bit just before Jerry starts the first verse. Whoo! Oh, yeah. Dancin’ shoes on now. Such a contrast. First part of set two could barely stay on the rails, but now they’re so spaced out they forget to put their foot down on the accelerator. Not a complaint, at, all. I usually imagine Shakedown jams to be more rhythmic. There’s sill a hint of the groove in the background, but well, there it went. Phil just introduced a completely different groove. Getting loose like that let’s them slip into other things, which is, I think, what’s happening now…. or not… This must be the most abstract Shakedown jam I’ve ever heard. I mean, there are literally hundreds of tapes I’ve never heard, but still. Jerry really working out now. Super fast little tremolo picking like in the high registers. Drums have started driving again. Sounds like Jerry’s teasing a Playin’ Reprise. Did they even do that in the 70s? No doubt. Jerry is definitely hinting at the Playin’ lick. Either they’re taking the long way home or they’ve given up on it. Wow. Jer getting’ pretty avant garde now. Where. Is. This. Going?! Lovin’ it!

Playin’ Reprise: Wow, Jer managed to get everyone on board for a Playin’ reprise after all that. And, damn, does it thunder onto the scene when it finally takes form. Still doin’ that insistent four on the floor thing that makes it feel kind of agro.

Sugar Mag: Love how this comes up for air out of the disintegrating Playin’ reprise. This show has had something for everyone, from super high energy numbers to complete space outs. Even with the free form mood that took over in the second half of the set, this is nice and tight; moving right along. Everyone in. Bobby thanks Bill Graham.

One More Saturday Night: Solidly above par. Wailing sayonara for Keith and Donna. I’m exhausted. What a show!
January 21, 2021 - 9:05am

#4745

Vguy72

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4.22.79 New Kid on the block....

....sounds like he fit right in and liked licorice.
January 21, 2021 - 8:36am

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billy the kid

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2/17/79 4/22/79. Two great shows

2/17/79 & 4/22/79 are two great shows that should be official releases. I went to 2/17/79, it was a benefit to stop environmental cancer called Rock for Life. The show started with the lights all on in the house as the Dead blasted out a killer version of Greatest Story. The version of Don't Ease Me In was great, they reworked it when Brent joined the band and it was never the same. I didn't make 4/22/79, it was my moms birthday, we were having a party. Charlie Daniels and Greg Kihn were both on the bill before the Dead. It's so nice to hear Brent's organ playing on Jack Straw for the the first time. The Dead seemed really pumped up and into it for the whole show. This show at Spartan Stadium wasn't to far away from where the Dead played their first show as the Grateful Dead, at the San Jose Acid Test on 12/4/65.
January 21, 2021 - 8:23am

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rockthing

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2/17/79 First Set

Wow. I remember thinking this was a really upbeat show considering it was Keith and Donna's last, but they must have given them one hell of a going away party. It is all goin' off in, like, every direction. I was exhausted just listening to it. This show goes from absolutely manic teeth grinding rockers and old timey tunes that barely hold it together to some seriously out there space jams. You'd have to label this with, like, three "Space" tracks if you were inclined to breaking things down as much as possible.

I already had the Bob Menke AKG source in my music library, so I was listening to that. Not checking the set list. Can’t remember what it was, other than Donna gets to sing a lot, iirc. Here and there saw the song title pop up. Sound is pretty thin. Really need to crank it.

Greatest Story: Usually like this as an opener. Jer seems to have carte blanche once his solo starts. Always a good idea in my book. Really searching and experimental as the four on the floor drives away behind him. Isn't this tune usually a little more cut and dry?

What’s Bobby saying’ about technical adjustments? Had to reach for the volume control, but still couldn’t make it out.

Don’t Ease: Damn sure am glad I left the volume where it was after that announcement. Love this tune. Haha. Oh, yeah, this must be when Bobby was learning to play slide on the job.

Mama Tried: Love this one too! Seems like there might actually be a bit too much energy, if there is such a thing. Seem to be just barely holding’ it together.

Mexicali: Despite the fact that it’s Keith’s last show, he’s been really prominent in the mix so far. Departing gift? Emotive delivery from Bobby. Jerry’s chorus vocals are really standing out too, for better or worse. This is pre-MIDI, obviously, but damn, Jer’s guitar sounded just like a trumpet for a minute there. Read somewhere about Branford Marsalis commenting that Jerry didn’t need MIDI to make his guitar sound like another instrument. This may be the proof. Can’t believe I have so much to say about Mexicali Blues!

Friend of the Devil: Chill slow tempo version. Some weird polyrhythmic syncopation goin’ on. Jer starts signing on the wrong beat, but has it together before the first verse is over. Keith gets several choruses for his somewhat aimless piano solo, before giving way to a spirited solo by Jer, who’s playing fast triplets and fluttery phrases over the slow tempo before bringing everyone in smoothly for the last verse and a strong final chorus.

Passenger: Did they ever do this again? Kinda relies on Donna. I don’t keep a Deadbase handy, unfortunately. Someone seems to get a little lost going into the “Only Game in Town” part. Jer slide solo. Bobby’s guitar is pretty much inaudible. I think the sense of roughness I’m feeling is due to both lack of rhythm guitar and Jerry trying to double on slide and normal fretted runs. It’s a tough juggling act. Pretty wild ride, this one. Stretchin’ out the second solo. Thought they were gonna end it in a jam, but someone brings it back to sing one more chorus before the ending, but it appears the memo did not circulate widely. Donna seems to be the only one who managed to get back to the chorus on time, but everyone recovers beautifully to end. I read that Phil wrote this song because he wanted to hear some raunchy guitar playing from Jerry and Bob. Well, he got it that time.

High Time: Wow. That's not something I normally expect to hear. Nice, delicate interplay from everybody. Pretty difficult song, actually. Not surprising it didn't see much action on stage.

Looks like Rain: Never really warmed up to this tune. That said, sometimes it gets stuck on repeat in my head and no matter what I do, I cannot stop hearing it… What the hell’s with those loud snare hits? lol My guess is that prankster Mickey, but who knows? Still laughing. Sounds like someone wants to pick up the tempo a bit. This is actually a pretty sensitive rendering of this song.

Jack a Roe: Electric! There’s something else ya don’t hear every day. Man, this show is absolutely stacked with tunes I totally love. Again, can’t hear Bobby’s guitar at all. Keith has been reigned into the mix better at this point. Phil’s givin’ it his all playing in and out of Jerry’s first solo. Ahh.. there’s Bob. Welcome to the show, dude. Sounds like only one drummer at this point, too. Pretty sparse, but then again, as much as I love this tune, there’s not a whole lot for everyone to do.

Lazy Lightning/Supplication: Period piece. Dunno why Bobby gave up on so many of his old tunes in favor of blues numbers, and Dylan covers. Donna sounds strong here. I believe I read that she and Keith actually wanted out at this point, so perhaps that contributes to the sense of jubilance (not a word apparently) here and Keith’s relative engagement. Jerry really, really, flying again. Float in’ like a butterfly, stinging’ like a bee. Phil senses blood and a jamming frenzy ensues. I guess if Bobby never cued them to go back into the song everyone else’d just go on forever like that…hmmmm…. It is so manic at this point, I don’t see how you could even dance to it. Spinners’d be achieving physical lift off, I think, depending on the robustness of their skirts.
January 21, 2021 - 7:46am

#4748

proudfoot

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Tonight on "Wha'appen?":

My theory is the agreement to part ways happened, everyone was relieved about it, so they made 2/17/79 special.
January 21, 2021 - 7:35am

#4749

The Good Ole G…

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Grateful Dead Memories

2/17 is good stuff.

Based on what I was reading, Donna mentions her & Keith discussing leaving the band through out the last tour. So maybe it was agreed upon between 2/11 in St. Louis & 2/17 in Oakland. Just speculating.

In regards to Tracking, since Rockthing brought that up....
I'm feeling it as Playing In The Band > Drums > Space > Wheel > Shakedown Street > Playing In The Band Jam > Reprise.
The Jam after Shakedown seems to turn into a PITB jam at around 12:30.
I like to give PITB as much labeling as possible, so that I'll pick that show out and listen to it again.
PITB rules.
(All of the above is killer! Listen to Jerry's voice in Terrapin & The Wheel segue is sweet, but that jam from Shakedown into Playing Jam is the stuff.)

Alright, I feel I'd not be performing my obligation to the nation if I didn't mention the 4/17/79 Rehearsal tape as a potential listen before you blast off into 4/22/79.

I gotta do it.

Keep on Rocking, Rockers.

PS - 2/9/73 was one of my first 3 bootleg tapes, it still gets me every time, so I'm with ya on that Jim.
Mickey was right they were into Time Travel.
January 21, 2021 - 7:02am

#4750

JimInMD

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Tapes / Spartan Stadium and Maples Pavilion

I remember dropping off a 10 pack of TDKs with an acquaintance. I got 4/22/79 Spartan Stadium, 2/9/73 Maples Pavilion and 06/29/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago in the same box. They contained their share of new songs (with Spartan Stadium, not so much songs but a new keyboard player).

I ended up getting a few more boxes from the same friend before geography and time brought that to an end. I have a crystalline memory of these first listens, like opening up another world of shows, songs and peeks into parts of eras I had no prior exposure into. Like Christmas morning..

In my mind all the shows from that glorious 10 pack take up the same real estate in my frontal lobe. Funny how memories work, especially grateful dead memories.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

DV for the win

Not a video but pics of the MSG box on that page now.
Cheers

Edit: 40 minutes later I got the email Sept. Bulletin.

MSG Box Set

Hey, thanks First Show, the box looks sweet and easy to access. Love it!

Edit: Five dancing bears!

Yesterday

We didn't make this month's almanac. We are replaced by Boreal Ridge and counterfeit Wake of the Flood LP's.

Thank god.. back to being ourselves. Channeling a good Dylan cover or a Comes a Time but really anything will do.

MSG box

sales must be down, pushing this one.

MSG Box Set

Sales, yes hard to know. They used to hype these boxes more in the past. Unboxing videos, additional Dave spots, etc. This one definitely isn't sold out. It will be interesting to see how long it takes. The Listen to the River Box is still available. PNW took a couple of years to sell out.

All this box talk…

Think I’ll check out 3/12/81 later today unless someone has something particular in mind?

3/12/81

Let it Grow > Franklin's Set I closer?? WAT??

DV, Bell’s Octoberfest

Picked up a 6 on Tuesday.
Picked up a case yesterday.

It’s good. I haven’t had it in more than 5 years. Reminds me of their Amber Ale, which I like a lot.

Oberon is gone.
Best Brown should be around the corner (I think that it was delayed last year, or they changed when it gets released).
Then Bright White, so I can get back to my favorite style of beer, wheat.

On Tuesday I also got a Toppling Goliath variety 12-pack. Good stuff in there.
Also got a Bell’s IPA variety 12-pack that day.

Bulletin

At the bottom it says “pardon our dust”, better shopping experience coming.
Still cleaning up the place after getting hacked.

They should focus on getting people the Lyceum digital downloads that they paid for.

I wasn’t at Boreal, but did see the bootleg video before.

Boreal is a place to learn to ski/board.
Behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and other terrain.

83 and 79

Enjoyed the 10/8/83 show OB. This was a pretty good audience recording. Not surprisingly, I really enjoyed 11/10/79. There is something about this time period. Sound quality on the recording is an A, good full representation of the band. You can really hear Brent at work for this show. Nice Peggy O, the El Paso rocks, good High Time, Dire Wolf, Passenger, Deal. Shoot the LLR delivers. Great second set, Terrapin, Playing and a solid BP, Not Fade.
More late fall 79 would be appreciated Dave. There is a lot to offer.

Conekid, good to hear you picked some Bells Octoberfest up. It is great stuff.

Okay, I will get that 81 show in this weekend OB.

Hope you all have a great weekend.

3/12/81

Ran with the Streeter audience. Seemed a touch slow for the band to to dial in Set I but from Bird Song on out its fine. The Let it Grow > Franklin's Tower closer is fire. Turns out that was the only time they ran that in the Brent years. Terrapin to open Set II is another unusual choice. Set II overall early 80s solid good and at times inspired. Blazing JBG to close.

Wandered next door into 3/13 at Utica. Guessing we hit this at some point, maybe fairly recently (forgive my memory) given that it's an Oro show and its proximity to the Garden Box. There's a very nice Wagner audience. Really digging it.

3/13/81

second run through and yeah it kicks ass (apologies if this fact has already been established earlier in POTDWD.)

Wagner source is sweet.

Bluecrow with the Score!

Yeah, you pretty much summed up 3/12 from where I’m sitting. Interesting considering I haven’t heard any 81 in awhile, so perhaps after hearing so much excellent music from 82 this year, 81 lacks a tad?
Last we were rooting around in 81 last year, I feel like the consensus was “hot shows/didn’t realize” etc
So I was thinking the 81 shows were going to be the surprise shows, but now I’m not sure?
I think their all going to be good shows, I just hope Norman et el is able to get the cassettes at least as good as that DaP that got the plangent treatment? I’m bracing myself for onslaught of negativity about this one, I mean I can already smell the shitwinds blowing Randy.
I listened to that DaP 39 yesterday. Once things get dialed in I think it sounds pretty darn good, does not have quite the depth perhaps, and yes, it’s not a reel etc, but I have no problem with the sound. The show: I might have gone to another house, but I’m grateful for each and every release, especially when they get the “treatment”.

3/13/81: nice score BC! I don’t have that noted in my Deadbase, but I didn’t start trying to keep track until well after we started. Damn GOGD had to run off and leave us, cause he was the man at documenting stuff, QUITER! ; )
But I know I’ve mentioned it and sure we must of checked it out since it would have been a 40 year anniversary last year? Anyway, glad you fond it!
Friday the Thirteenth! That show has quite the personal sordid story that I won’t bore by repeating. But I was there, sorta, first row right in front of Jer bear. BITD I didn’t think that show was so good, but later on I had a tape with Jack a Roe and TMNS as filler, and they were hot. So it planted a seed that finally, years later, after I finally heard it on archive and LMAO because I couldn’t believe how good it was after decades of thinking it was a dud, HA!, set and setting indeed!
But it’s always nice when your show buddies confirm your feelings, and come to think of it, that’s what some of us regulars kinda are: show buddies!
Like did you have folks you knew but didn’t necessarily hang out with except at shows?
Not so much people you only knew on tour, but folks from back home that you’d see occasionally, but somehow would often go to shows with, or at least see them there?
Anyway, rambling on bout the old days again and I haven’t even had coffee yet!
Not sure where we left off? Some 82, 83, and these 81s?
Ok, too much, need coffee, maybe later….

Congrats DV!

WooHoo, Go VIKS!

Oroborous

Thanks OB. Always good to get off to a good start and against the Pack to boot.

And how about those Bills. Impressive!

So, looking forward to the new box. It always seems like way to long between box sets.

And then #44, end of October. Still going with 91, hopefully another 4 CD two show release.

Would be great if we started 2023 with Kezar. That would be a great #45.

What is on tap for today?

Speaking of the box, again lol

As soon as these tire tracks across my back heal up from getting tossed under the bus, I’m going to unfortunately be putting some major hours in the next few daze, so might be hitting/needing some DHBs…
So, was thinking I’d try 3/5/81, 9/14/82, and 10/9/83 in today?
No need to for you civilians to do all that, just thought we’d sniff around the box neighborhood a couple more times, then do full cleanse in some other direction starting say they week before it’s arrival?
Just a thought to keep the mother rolling?

EDIT: have a couple more fall 79s to work in also soon.

Picks

Thrown under the bus?

Thanks for the picks. I will definitely take a look.

Sorry

Work BS…

3/5/81

So yeah that "Jam" > Passenger to open Set II is something else.

no Jerry until well into Passenger. Wolf on the fritz for a few minutes. thought it had to be something odd along those lines during my listen - went to the archive reviews and sure enough.

Jam

I wondered what was going on?
I mean if he was stuck on the commode you’d think they wouldn’t have started the set!

Interesting set lists across all three. Haven’t finished 10/9/83 but will today.

Oro

I read your post about work BS and then, poof, it was gone. So sorry about all this that is happening, although it sounds like it's a "boss" problem and if you're not the boss... Another thing that sounds kinda oxymoronic is that you have to put up with this total crap storm just for the health insurance? So you are keeping a job that is killing you so you can have health insurance so when the job puts you down, the insurance will cover it? Nope, maybe time to rethink this job? Not my business to tell anyone what to do but it just sounds...wrong. So glad I'm no longer in the work force unless I want to be. I put up with that kind of bull squat for years, as the bosses took vacations, I worked my ass off so they could party, when I found out what was really going on, I had to reevaluate my entire way of thinking. I was told wrong, never work for people who don't value you and use you to get a step up the corporate ladder. As Lowell said, and I find that it's true sometimes "The same people they misuse on the way up, they might meet up, on the way down." And those people are pissed.

jam

Wolf had issues - one account was Jerry got tangled in his cords and actually took a spill. Bobby started riffing while Wolf was being looked at. Its an interesting bit of music.

9-13-93

wow, Jerry on fire this date, and it has a 6 min Dark Star.

OB

Hang in there OB.

9/13/93

Sounds interesting PT. I’ll hit it up as soon as I finish 10/9/83…

Edit: thanks guys!
I hear ya PT, fortunately/unfortunately, I’ve managed to carve out a nice niche where I have somewhat of a decent schedule, including a winter hiatus if the situation allows, I get paid decent, I usually get to work alone in big mansions, and have full bennies even though I often don’t work full time, so it’s hard to give up all my perks that I negotiated and slaved for for 15 years of overwork and stress. That’s the killer, stress, after all I’ve been through last five years, I can’t handle the stress anymore and then turn into the miserable ledge walker lol. But, unfortunately that’s the business I’m in: Rick folks get and do whatever they want and we have try to give it too them.
I justify it by reasoning I’m bringing R&R and music to the people lol.
I’m glad someone gets my conundrum: works wrecking my health just so I can have HI.
But, I’m sorry to air my negative BS here in happy land, please excuse!
Now back to your regular scheduled Maggie’s Farm/Last Time…

Oh, it should be a boss problem, but shit rolls downhill. If I don’t have it ready, the salesmen/director will just tell them it’s my fault. Yep…he gets the big bucks and rewards, I get HI.

Killing Yourself to Live

These work posts have a familiar ring to them - working to improve your life, while the work you are doing could be damaging it. It's a knife edge- good luck, OB.

JOBS :-(

My buddy says good jobs with good pay are like golden handcuffs.

......keepin' up with the Jones' is killing me. They ought to hang the man who said the best things in life are free.

RGM

Alert! Reissued Dick's 29 on CD and Dick's 33 on VINYL!
Cheers

Thanks 1st Show

Thanks 1st Show. I am still not a vinyl guy and at these prices, probably a good thing. $175! Wow!

However, love this release.

Since We're on an '81 Roll

Care to do 9/13/81? BTK is hyping these up and they are new to me. It's got a relative rarity (To Lay Me Down) a good setlist and a double Satisfaction, Brokedown encore. I kinda like the 80's Let It Grow's also, usually rough and rowdy.

Any takers? Like I said, new to me, so....

a little late, but.. Sorry to hear the workingman's blues, OB. Tiretracks all across your back.. well, hopefully they didn't stop, put it in reverse, stop again, turn the wheels a bit back and forth for good measure, they peel out leaving you on the side of curb cursing like a lost sailor tossed overboard and abandoned. I bet I can say with a good level of honesty.. we all have tiretrack scars on our collective backs and man.. it sucks. Hang in there.

Looks Good

Just as soon as I get this trailer hitch outta my ass ; )

Edit: oh forgot. Enjoyed 9/13/93, haven’t dipped into 93 much, good to know there’s stuff to be mined.
Hope to explore 93 a bit next year!

9/13/81 Greek Theatre

Yes, this one definitely peaked my interest. Let's do it.

FYI - Time Magazine

Just came from supermarket,, Time Mag has one of the special issues,,, this one on the Dead

9/13/93

Really really enjoyed this show - thanks PT!

Disclosure - I love the tone of Lightning Bolt guitar that Jerry plays in this era (and yeah I saw its debut with JGB in Seattle 8/7/93 and the GD debut at Autzen 2 weeks later.

Solid played Set I, with several songs that I would deem a bit out of the ordinary and special: Jack A Roe (after Bucket opener?!), Stagger Lee, Black-Throated Wind, Dire Wolf. Sweet Let It Grow closer. Pre-Drumz Set II is more goodness - Jamming Scarlet > Fire, Playing with a 6 minute "pinch" of Dark Star to finish :) and a thundering Terrapin. I was thinking how much Jerry's Midi horns add to that song - beautiful fit to the "atmosphere" of that song in the late era. Drumz lead to a beautiful, delicate instrumental sequence introduced by Vince on piano along with Jerry. Comments on archive say its from Tubular Bells and I'm planning to go back and listen to that lp. Easy Answers out of space would never have been a song choice for me in the day but in my old age got to say its a solid Bob song. Days Between will always always bring tears to my eyes - without question one of the absolute Hunter/Garcia masterpieces. I Fought The Law encore - a lot of folks bitch about that - saw it '93 at Autzen and it was a fun snappy tune and no problem with me.

I'm in on that 9/13 from that September '81 run at the Greek. Later today or tomorrow.

Phew, dodged another bullet

The owners tech rep came today, hopefully out after tomorrow so I can have “my” mansion back!
Only the Mrs coming to leaf peep, but not until October as their late this year due to the late unseasonable heat we were having. So phew, after some ten hour days, your boy dodged a major bullet once again, lol.
But that’s not why we’re here, so yaaasss ole BC that was an enjoyable 93! You summed it up well so I won’t rehash.
BC, I know you’ve mentioned digging Lightning Bolt, I don’t dislike it, but it’s not my favorite JG axe, though it could be the electronics, specifically the speaker simulation they were using to compensate for playing through in ear monitors and little or no speakers on stage. Sometimes it sounds too much like an acoustic or…? I didn’t like the fake sound in general with no speakers. I mean the synchronicity that happens with the amps and speakers etc, especially when those voice coils start heating up etc, just didn’t sound right to me? I get why they did it, but I didn’t like it.
I do really enjoy the different songs as a nice change from some of the a, ahem, burnouts I’ve been having.
Oh, and I didn’t catch it at first but this is one off of Dave’s list, so we’ll probably see it at some point, but guessing he won’t go that far afield soon?
Oh, was that what that cool Vinny jam was, I listened to that a few times. Have to keep an ear out for that elsewhere.

9/13/81: another beauty eh!
Always dig a good Lay Me Down. Agree on those 80s LIG. Again liking the different rotations or set lists.
Just finally getting to the last third. Oooppss, nice clam there in Terrapin Jer lol, and Brentskis blues into drumzzz..
Ok, caught up, mañana good peoples!

I haven't posted on this page for quite some time....

....never heard 9.13.93. That's changing tonight.
Edit. I didn't peek at the second set. Just let it play. Dark Star -> Terrapin?!? Noice.

The more the merrier!

Climb aboard Vguy and anyone else, we take all kinds here, I mean they let me hang out lol.

Okay, no picks and have work to do, so going to keep on with our box preview until next week, or until someone else chimes in, then I’m going full cleanse to prep for the hopefully timely arrival of said box!

So I’ll throw 3 shows out there, I’ll probably only get 2 in, but ya never know whereith tge DHB lurks!
3/6/81
9/15/82
9/15/83

Hoping maybe to do those awesome Frost 82 shows! I’ve had a tape and heard one night, but never the other, so really looking forward to that soon, but those need the big boy system so perhaps this WEas the Other One is working this WE!

I went with the next day....

...9.14.93. Pretty good!

9/15/82

(starts listening to Set I)

WAT??!!

VGuy - good to see you in these parts

Look back, and smile on perils past………….

Hello there rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Boston Music Hall, September 16, 1972

Ah yes, our old stomping ground, a fine old timey theater where we saw lots of cool shows, including the Dead, Pink Floyd, Carlos, Steve Miller, Frank Zappa, and so many more……….

This was not just one more Saturday night. The band is in fine form, a rich mix of country/western covers, originals, and jammy goodness. Throw in a Dew to open set 2, highlighted by Dark Star and closed with a sweet NFA suite, and there you go----a great time was had by all.

The kind folks at GEMS unleased this on us a little over two years ago. There’s also a nice Bear copy out there as well. And what’s not to like about that?

The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion……..

Rock on!

Doc
Fear not for the future, weep not for the past…….

9/13/81 Greek Theatre

Just getting back to this one. I am behind. It has been a crazy week.

This show is another top notch 81. Recording is great, nice full sound for most of the show. Yes, who doesn't like a sweet To Lay me Down? Nice Red Rooster, Loser, Passenger, ROR, Let it Grow, fun Might as well closer
Nice full second set, with Cold Rain and Snow, Samson, Lost Sailor SOC into Terrapin, double encore with a personal favorite Brokendown Palace. What a show! Thanks.
Hard to believe we haven't seen a Greek released yet. When will it happen?
Okay, I have my work cut out for me.

Afterword

3/6/81: another solid show with occasional JG roasters.
Seem to recall Cassidy was real good, LIG, fun Estimated into Franks, TOO, Stella etc
9/15/82: thought the first set was above average, second set average. Fun set list especially the Playin/Crazy Fingers to open! Lol, had to check and make sure it wasn’t the second set!
Playing teases throughout, fun first set, another hot LIG/Deal. Shakedown always welcome even if I didn’t think this one was ? interesting Segway into Sailor instead of ending it. Perhaps a tad short with sorta status quo rest of the way.
Didn’t have time for 83.

Vguy, how’d you like 9/14/93? Looks interesting but I’m so backed up I prolly won’t go there just yet unless you say I must?
Doc: on the list.

Ok, I’ve got to ramble on, so no shows for moi, at least until later ; )
All kinds of stuff, and oh, I want to reserve Monday for a very special occasion/surprise so won’t say more until then!
Onward!

9/13/81

Love those long 11 song first sets. Gives them some time to find their grove and stretch out. A nice show and a good end to the strong three show run.

I'm running a day behind, plan on stringing up fall '72 this afternoon/evening.

Hope all are doing well out there. Darkness falls and seasons change.. the crisp air of fall is upon us.

I'm going to throw one out....

....Cal State Dominguez Hills, Carson, CA. 5.5.90. I was in attendance. Rumor was Timothy Leary was backstage dosing people. The band does sound....drippy.
LTGTR
The Race Is On
Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower
Queen Jane
Loser
Me & My Uncle ->
Mexicali Blues
Loose Lucy
One More Saturday Night
.
Truckin' ->
Crazy Fingers ->
Playin' In The Band ->
Uncle John's Band ->
Drums->
Space ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Dear Mr. Fantasy ->
GDTRFB ->
Around And Around
.
Touch Of Grey
.
Phil is ON!!

9/13/81

This was my third show. My head was still spinning from 9/11/81. The whole weekend is worth your time for sure.

5/5/90 & 9/11/81

I'm still on 9/16/72..

But I'm on board with 5/5/90, so it's next. As much as I liked 9/13/81, it was somewhat a distracted listen and I was not able to crank it up and I could tell it needed more volume. Is screamed and pleaded, turn me up.. but I was not alone.

I want to hit 9/11 & 12/81 at some point too. I guess we have work to do.

Enjoy your Saturday folks.

Working man’s dead

Yep, hup, hup, we gots work to do!

I just knew when we went for 9/13/81 that I should do the whole WE. The more we hit these three day runs, the more it seems imperative to do them all in order, since when you string em together their like one big show, sorta.
I guess I mean the individual shows make more sense in the context of the whole?
(Easy on the tubes there Butch, ahem; )
But a, so I’ve gone with 9/11&12/81 and I’m at Fire from the 12th.
Thought the first night (11)first set was perhaps a little Cali laid back?
Not a bad show, no, no, just, I think the second night has more “it”? Sometimes it’s hard trying to translate vibe into words, stoopid words, somewhere I believe we made an evolutionary wrong turn, and of course refused to stop for directions, but I digress…
EDIT: yeah don’t like how I left 9/11/81, there might not be as much Fire as 8/12, but it’s there, the second set is better and I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the Dew!
Yeah as much as I enjoyed the first night, the second seems to bring the fire, booth literally and figuratively!
Besides the ridiculous Scarlet/Fire, the groovy Shakedown opener, decent Bird Song, hot Cassidy (been several in our recent early 8s adventures), sick China-Rider, it’s gold Jerry, it’s gold I tell ya!
No SB, but fine aud, and you get a great look at just how mellow the bay crowd is, and I mean that in the best way!
I can’t believe I didn’t get to the Greek/Frost, shizboot!
Anywho, been really digging this one, can’t recall specifics of the13th, but that’s part of why I think you really have to go all in on some of these WEs. Bobs CCin and Haaa in and I got stuff todo. Oooppss, Bob goes way outta tune on that one lol.
ONWARD!

Definitely want to hit 5/5/90, hell I’ll prolly hit them both to fill that hole, perhaps mañana?
Think I’ll hit 9/16/72 at work perhaps Tuesday, but remember Monday we have a very special holiday to celebrate so stay tuned!