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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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May 21, 2020 - 3:27am

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bob t

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8/13/75 great choice

This tape is what pulled me in. It's interesting if you have ever heard the full intro, where Bill Graham talks about Ron Rakow and his bet with him that he was being paid 50$. It is right after, "We welcome you on behalf of the group".... After listening to the intro version of one from the vault and what I had on my Make Believe Ballroom tape, it just sounds weird because the intro is awesome!! bob t
May 21, 2020 - 1:49am

#7122

daverock

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8/13/75 on the radio

An hour of this show was broadcast on British radio sometime late in 1975. Consequently, my first Dead tape.
May 20, 2020 - 10:34pm

#7123

The Good Ole G…

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Make Believe Ballroom

Good stuff!

JIMINMD - Make Believe Ballroom pretty “famous” early bootleg record of 8/13/75 from the Amazing Kornyfone Record Label.

I think they fetch a pretty penny from collectors these days.

Cool info here - http://www.gratefulseconds.com/2018/02/?m=1

Fun Discussions tonight all.

Good info and Good tunes tomorrow.

Until then be well
May 20, 2020 - 10:07pm

#7124

DeadVikes

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8/13/75

Yes, this is the ticket for tomorrow.

Oroborous, appreciate the information.

Sounds like I am not in the league of your customers, which is okay. I am more of the pub links player. Anyway, at a minimum it sounds like I should invest in a new router and modem with the extra Wifi connections around the house.

Do you wonder why I like the old school wired system playing CDs.

Do you know how much time I have spent on the phone with Sonos customer service??
May 20, 2020 - 9:05pm

#7125

JimInMD

Joined:
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Ha.. Re: Net Wiring

Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

Nite all.
May 20, 2020 - 7:48pm

#7126

Oroborous

Joined:
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Re: Deadvikes/net wiring

To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
- Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
- Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
- Research and get best Router you can
- Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.
May 20, 2020 - 7:42pm

#7127

Cousins Of The…

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8/13/75

Jim, my first exposure to it was the Make Believe Ballroom LP on the TAKRL label
May 20, 2020 - 7:22pm

#7128

Gollum

Joined:
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8/13/75

in the queue...
May 20, 2020 - 7:21pm

#7129

JimInMD

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Hampton 87 & 8/13/75

Made that run too.. I think there are several of us here that must have shared a fatty or a bowl at some point over the last 35 years.

So are we doing One From the Vault next? My first tape of this was labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." Not sure where that came from or how common it was.

So I decided if we are doing 3/24/90 I would re-order it and do it right.. which is where I still am. I did roast a good amount of kind Ethiopian Coffee and unfortunately spent a ton of time on the phone with USPS. Back to finally getting my Knick exactly perfect. Whoever mentioned the Mind Left Body.. my two favorites are 10/18/73 and 3/24/90. On the latter, Jerry and Brent are in the middle of a serious mind meld. It's amazing and Brent really does fill in the gaps, almost exactly perfectly. Always one of my favorite late era shows. Amazing.
May 20, 2020 - 6:55pm

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bolo24

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8/13/75. "Good evening, we welcome you...

...On behalf of the group"

Pretty much have this whole show memorized, as it's always in heavy rotation. What the heck, in the interest of supporting my Deadhead brethren, of all genders, races, political leanings and creeds, I'll cue it up tomorrow and play it LOUD on the big boy system!!

Unless my wife is home, then it's headphones.

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

DV for the win

Not a video but pics of the MSG box on that page now.
Cheers

Edit: 40 minutes later I got the email Sept. Bulletin.

MSG Box Set

Hey, thanks First Show, the box looks sweet and easy to access. Love it!

Edit: Five dancing bears!

Yesterday

We didn't make this month's almanac. We are replaced by Boreal Ridge and counterfeit Wake of the Flood LP's.

Thank god.. back to being ourselves. Channeling a good Dylan cover or a Comes a Time but really anything will do.

MSG box

sales must be down, pushing this one.

MSG Box Set

Sales, yes hard to know. They used to hype these boxes more in the past. Unboxing videos, additional Dave spots, etc. This one definitely isn't sold out. It will be interesting to see how long it takes. The Listen to the River Box is still available. PNW took a couple of years to sell out.

All this box talk…

Think I’ll check out 3/12/81 later today unless someone has something particular in mind?

3/12/81

Let it Grow > Franklin's Set I closer?? WAT??

DV, Bell’s Octoberfest

Picked up a 6 on Tuesday.
Picked up a case yesterday.

It’s good. I haven’t had it in more than 5 years. Reminds me of their Amber Ale, which I like a lot.

Oberon is gone.
Best Brown should be around the corner (I think that it was delayed last year, or they changed when it gets released).
Then Bright White, so I can get back to my favorite style of beer, wheat.

On Tuesday I also got a Toppling Goliath variety 12-pack. Good stuff in there.
Also got a Bell’s IPA variety 12-pack that day.

Bulletin

At the bottom it says “pardon our dust”, better shopping experience coming.
Still cleaning up the place after getting hacked.

They should focus on getting people the Lyceum digital downloads that they paid for.

I wasn’t at Boreal, but did see the bootleg video before.

Boreal is a place to learn to ski/board.
Behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and other terrain.

83 and 79

Enjoyed the 10/8/83 show OB. This was a pretty good audience recording. Not surprisingly, I really enjoyed 11/10/79. There is something about this time period. Sound quality on the recording is an A, good full representation of the band. You can really hear Brent at work for this show. Nice Peggy O, the El Paso rocks, good High Time, Dire Wolf, Passenger, Deal. Shoot the LLR delivers. Great second set, Terrapin, Playing and a solid BP, Not Fade.
More late fall 79 would be appreciated Dave. There is a lot to offer.

Conekid, good to hear you picked some Bells Octoberfest up. It is great stuff.

Okay, I will get that 81 show in this weekend OB.

Hope you all have a great weekend.

3/12/81

Ran with the Streeter audience. Seemed a touch slow for the band to to dial in Set I but from Bird Song on out its fine. The Let it Grow > Franklin's Tower closer is fire. Turns out that was the only time they ran that in the Brent years. Terrapin to open Set II is another unusual choice. Set II overall early 80s solid good and at times inspired. Blazing JBG to close.

Wandered next door into 3/13 at Utica. Guessing we hit this at some point, maybe fairly recently (forgive my memory) given that it's an Oro show and its proximity to the Garden Box. There's a very nice Wagner audience. Really digging it.

3/13/81

second run through and yeah it kicks ass (apologies if this fact has already been established earlier in POTDWD.)

Wagner source is sweet.

Bluecrow with the Score!

Yeah, you pretty much summed up 3/12 from where I’m sitting. Interesting considering I haven’t heard any 81 in awhile, so perhaps after hearing so much excellent music from 82 this year, 81 lacks a tad?
Last we were rooting around in 81 last year, I feel like the consensus was “hot shows/didn’t realize” etc
So I was thinking the 81 shows were going to be the surprise shows, but now I’m not sure?
I think their all going to be good shows, I just hope Norman et el is able to get the cassettes at least as good as that DaP that got the plangent treatment? I’m bracing myself for onslaught of negativity about this one, I mean I can already smell the shitwinds blowing Randy.
I listened to that DaP 39 yesterday. Once things get dialed in I think it sounds pretty darn good, does not have quite the depth perhaps, and yes, it’s not a reel etc, but I have no problem with the sound. The show: I might have gone to another house, but I’m grateful for each and every release, especially when they get the “treatment”.

3/13/81: nice score BC! I don’t have that noted in my Deadbase, but I didn’t start trying to keep track until well after we started. Damn GOGD had to run off and leave us, cause he was the man at documenting stuff, QUITER! ; )
But I know I’ve mentioned it and sure we must of checked it out since it would have been a 40 year anniversary last year? Anyway, glad you fond it!
Friday the Thirteenth! That show has quite the personal sordid story that I won’t bore by repeating. But I was there, sorta, first row right in front of Jer bear. BITD I didn’t think that show was so good, but later on I had a tape with Jack a Roe and TMNS as filler, and they were hot. So it planted a seed that finally, years later, after I finally heard it on archive and LMAO because I couldn’t believe how good it was after decades of thinking it was a dud, HA!, set and setting indeed!
But it’s always nice when your show buddies confirm your feelings, and come to think of it, that’s what some of us regulars kinda are: show buddies!
Like did you have folks you knew but didn’t necessarily hang out with except at shows?
Not so much people you only knew on tour, but folks from back home that you’d see occasionally, but somehow would often go to shows with, or at least see them there?
Anyway, rambling on bout the old days again and I haven’t even had coffee yet!
Not sure where we left off? Some 82, 83, and these 81s?
Ok, too much, need coffee, maybe later….

Congrats DV!

WooHoo, Go VIKS!

Oroborous

Thanks OB. Always good to get off to a good start and against the Pack to boot.

And how about those Bills. Impressive!

So, looking forward to the new box. It always seems like way to long between box sets.

And then #44, end of October. Still going with 91, hopefully another 4 CD two show release.

Would be great if we started 2023 with Kezar. That would be a great #45.

What is on tap for today?

Speaking of the box, again lol

As soon as these tire tracks across my back heal up from getting tossed under the bus, I’m going to unfortunately be putting some major hours in the next few daze, so might be hitting/needing some DHBs…
So, was thinking I’d try 3/5/81, 9/14/82, and 10/9/83 in today?
No need to for you civilians to do all that, just thought we’d sniff around the box neighborhood a couple more times, then do full cleanse in some other direction starting say they week before it’s arrival?
Just a thought to keep the mother rolling?

EDIT: have a couple more fall 79s to work in also soon.

Picks

Thrown under the bus?

Thanks for the picks. I will definitely take a look.

Sorry

Work BS…

3/5/81

So yeah that "Jam" > Passenger to open Set II is something else.

no Jerry until well into Passenger. Wolf on the fritz for a few minutes. thought it had to be something odd along those lines during my listen - went to the archive reviews and sure enough.

Jam

I wondered what was going on?
I mean if he was stuck on the commode you’d think they wouldn’t have started the set!

Interesting set lists across all three. Haven’t finished 10/9/83 but will today.

Oro

I read your post about work BS and then, poof, it was gone. So sorry about all this that is happening, although it sounds like it's a "boss" problem and if you're not the boss... Another thing that sounds kinda oxymoronic is that you have to put up with this total crap storm just for the health insurance? So you are keeping a job that is killing you so you can have health insurance so when the job puts you down, the insurance will cover it? Nope, maybe time to rethink this job? Not my business to tell anyone what to do but it just sounds...wrong. So glad I'm no longer in the work force unless I want to be. I put up with that kind of bull squat for years, as the bosses took vacations, I worked my ass off so they could party, when I found out what was really going on, I had to reevaluate my entire way of thinking. I was told wrong, never work for people who don't value you and use you to get a step up the corporate ladder. As Lowell said, and I find that it's true sometimes "The same people they misuse on the way up, they might meet up, on the way down." And those people are pissed.

jam

Wolf had issues - one account was Jerry got tangled in his cords and actually took a spill. Bobby started riffing while Wolf was being looked at. Its an interesting bit of music.

9-13-93

wow, Jerry on fire this date, and it has a 6 min Dark Star.

OB

Hang in there OB.

9/13/93

Sounds interesting PT. I’ll hit it up as soon as I finish 10/9/83…

Edit: thanks guys!
I hear ya PT, fortunately/unfortunately, I’ve managed to carve out a nice niche where I have somewhat of a decent schedule, including a winter hiatus if the situation allows, I get paid decent, I usually get to work alone in big mansions, and have full bennies even though I often don’t work full time, so it’s hard to give up all my perks that I negotiated and slaved for for 15 years of overwork and stress. That’s the killer, stress, after all I’ve been through last five years, I can’t handle the stress anymore and then turn into the miserable ledge walker lol. But, unfortunately that’s the business I’m in: Rick folks get and do whatever they want and we have try to give it too them.
I justify it by reasoning I’m bringing R&R and music to the people lol.
I’m glad someone gets my conundrum: works wrecking my health just so I can have HI.
But, I’m sorry to air my negative BS here in happy land, please excuse!
Now back to your regular scheduled Maggie’s Farm/Last Time…

Oh, it should be a boss problem, but shit rolls downhill. If I don’t have it ready, the salesmen/director will just tell them it’s my fault. Yep…he gets the big bucks and rewards, I get HI.

Killing Yourself to Live

These work posts have a familiar ring to them - working to improve your life, while the work you are doing could be damaging it. It's a knife edge- good luck, OB.

JOBS :-(

My buddy says good jobs with good pay are like golden handcuffs.

......keepin' up with the Jones' is killing me. They ought to hang the man who said the best things in life are free.

RGM

Alert! Reissued Dick's 29 on CD and Dick's 33 on VINYL!
Cheers

Thanks 1st Show

Thanks 1st Show. I am still not a vinyl guy and at these prices, probably a good thing. $175! Wow!

However, love this release.

Since We're on an '81 Roll

Care to do 9/13/81? BTK is hyping these up and they are new to me. It's got a relative rarity (To Lay Me Down) a good setlist and a double Satisfaction, Brokedown encore. I kinda like the 80's Let It Grow's also, usually rough and rowdy.

Any takers? Like I said, new to me, so....

a little late, but.. Sorry to hear the workingman's blues, OB. Tiretracks all across your back.. well, hopefully they didn't stop, put it in reverse, stop again, turn the wheels a bit back and forth for good measure, they peel out leaving you on the side of curb cursing like a lost sailor tossed overboard and abandoned. I bet I can say with a good level of honesty.. we all have tiretrack scars on our collective backs and man.. it sucks. Hang in there.

Looks Good

Just as soon as I get this trailer hitch outta my ass ; )

Edit: oh forgot. Enjoyed 9/13/93, haven’t dipped into 93 much, good to know there’s stuff to be mined.
Hope to explore 93 a bit next year!

9/13/81 Greek Theatre

Yes, this one definitely peaked my interest. Let's do it.

FYI - Time Magazine

Just came from supermarket,, Time Mag has one of the special issues,,, this one on the Dead

9/13/93

Really really enjoyed this show - thanks PT!

Disclosure - I love the tone of Lightning Bolt guitar that Jerry plays in this era (and yeah I saw its debut with JGB in Seattle 8/7/93 and the GD debut at Autzen 2 weeks later.

Solid played Set I, with several songs that I would deem a bit out of the ordinary and special: Jack A Roe (after Bucket opener?!), Stagger Lee, Black-Throated Wind, Dire Wolf. Sweet Let It Grow closer. Pre-Drumz Set II is more goodness - Jamming Scarlet > Fire, Playing with a 6 minute "pinch" of Dark Star to finish :) and a thundering Terrapin. I was thinking how much Jerry's Midi horns add to that song - beautiful fit to the "atmosphere" of that song in the late era. Drumz lead to a beautiful, delicate instrumental sequence introduced by Vince on piano along with Jerry. Comments on archive say its from Tubular Bells and I'm planning to go back and listen to that lp. Easy Answers out of space would never have been a song choice for me in the day but in my old age got to say its a solid Bob song. Days Between will always always bring tears to my eyes - without question one of the absolute Hunter/Garcia masterpieces. I Fought The Law encore - a lot of folks bitch about that - saw it '93 at Autzen and it was a fun snappy tune and no problem with me.

I'm in on that 9/13 from that September '81 run at the Greek. Later today or tomorrow.

Phew, dodged another bullet

The owners tech rep came today, hopefully out after tomorrow so I can have “my” mansion back!
Only the Mrs coming to leaf peep, but not until October as their late this year due to the late unseasonable heat we were having. So phew, after some ten hour days, your boy dodged a major bullet once again, lol.
But that’s not why we’re here, so yaaasss ole BC that was an enjoyable 93! You summed it up well so I won’t rehash.
BC, I know you’ve mentioned digging Lightning Bolt, I don’t dislike it, but it’s not my favorite JG axe, though it could be the electronics, specifically the speaker simulation they were using to compensate for playing through in ear monitors and little or no speakers on stage. Sometimes it sounds too much like an acoustic or…? I didn’t like the fake sound in general with no speakers. I mean the synchronicity that happens with the amps and speakers etc, especially when those voice coils start heating up etc, just didn’t sound right to me? I get why they did it, but I didn’t like it.
I do really enjoy the different songs as a nice change from some of the a, ahem, burnouts I’ve been having.
Oh, and I didn’t catch it at first but this is one off of Dave’s list, so we’ll probably see it at some point, but guessing he won’t go that far afield soon?
Oh, was that what that cool Vinny jam was, I listened to that a few times. Have to keep an ear out for that elsewhere.

9/13/81: another beauty eh!
Always dig a good Lay Me Down. Agree on those 80s LIG. Again liking the different rotations or set lists.
Just finally getting to the last third. Oooppss, nice clam there in Terrapin Jer lol, and Brentskis blues into drumzzz..
Ok, caught up, mañana good peoples!

I haven't posted on this page for quite some time....

....never heard 9.13.93. That's changing tonight.
Edit. I didn't peek at the second set. Just let it play. Dark Star -> Terrapin?!? Noice.

The more the merrier!

Climb aboard Vguy and anyone else, we take all kinds here, I mean they let me hang out lol.

Okay, no picks and have work to do, so going to keep on with our box preview until next week, or until someone else chimes in, then I’m going full cleanse to prep for the hopefully timely arrival of said box!

So I’ll throw 3 shows out there, I’ll probably only get 2 in, but ya never know whereith tge DHB lurks!
3/6/81
9/15/82
9/15/83

Hoping maybe to do those awesome Frost 82 shows! I’ve had a tape and heard one night, but never the other, so really looking forward to that soon, but those need the big boy system so perhaps this WEas the Other One is working this WE!

I went with the next day....

...9.14.93. Pretty good!

9/15/82

(starts listening to Set I)

WAT??!!

VGuy - good to see you in these parts

Look back, and smile on perils past………….

Hello there rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Boston Music Hall, September 16, 1972

Ah yes, our old stomping ground, a fine old timey theater where we saw lots of cool shows, including the Dead, Pink Floyd, Carlos, Steve Miller, Frank Zappa, and so many more……….

This was not just one more Saturday night. The band is in fine form, a rich mix of country/western covers, originals, and jammy goodness. Throw in a Dew to open set 2, highlighted by Dark Star and closed with a sweet NFA suite, and there you go----a great time was had by all.

The kind folks at GEMS unleased this on us a little over two years ago. There’s also a nice Bear copy out there as well. And what’s not to like about that?

The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion……..

Rock on!

Doc
Fear not for the future, weep not for the past…….

9/13/81 Greek Theatre

Just getting back to this one. I am behind. It has been a crazy week.

This show is another top notch 81. Recording is great, nice full sound for most of the show. Yes, who doesn't like a sweet To Lay me Down? Nice Red Rooster, Loser, Passenger, ROR, Let it Grow, fun Might as well closer
Nice full second set, with Cold Rain and Snow, Samson, Lost Sailor SOC into Terrapin, double encore with a personal favorite Brokendown Palace. What a show! Thanks.
Hard to believe we haven't seen a Greek released yet. When will it happen?
Okay, I have my work cut out for me.

Afterword

3/6/81: another solid show with occasional JG roasters.
Seem to recall Cassidy was real good, LIG, fun Estimated into Franks, TOO, Stella etc
9/15/82: thought the first set was above average, second set average. Fun set list especially the Playin/Crazy Fingers to open! Lol, had to check and make sure it wasn’t the second set!
Playing teases throughout, fun first set, another hot LIG/Deal. Shakedown always welcome even if I didn’t think this one was ? interesting Segway into Sailor instead of ending it. Perhaps a tad short with sorta status quo rest of the way.
Didn’t have time for 83.

Vguy, how’d you like 9/14/93? Looks interesting but I’m so backed up I prolly won’t go there just yet unless you say I must?
Doc: on the list.

Ok, I’ve got to ramble on, so no shows for moi, at least until later ; )
All kinds of stuff, and oh, I want to reserve Monday for a very special occasion/surprise so won’t say more until then!
Onward!

9/13/81

Love those long 11 song first sets. Gives them some time to find their grove and stretch out. A nice show and a good end to the strong three show run.

I'm running a day behind, plan on stringing up fall '72 this afternoon/evening.

Hope all are doing well out there. Darkness falls and seasons change.. the crisp air of fall is upon us.

I'm going to throw one out....

....Cal State Dominguez Hills, Carson, CA. 5.5.90. I was in attendance. Rumor was Timothy Leary was backstage dosing people. The band does sound....drippy.
LTGTR
The Race Is On
Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower
Queen Jane
Loser
Me & My Uncle ->
Mexicali Blues
Loose Lucy
One More Saturday Night
.
Truckin' ->
Crazy Fingers ->
Playin' In The Band ->
Uncle John's Band ->
Drums->
Space ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Dear Mr. Fantasy ->
GDTRFB ->
Around And Around
.
Touch Of Grey
.
Phil is ON!!

9/13/81

This was my third show. My head was still spinning from 9/11/81. The whole weekend is worth your time for sure.

5/5/90 & 9/11/81

I'm still on 9/16/72..

But I'm on board with 5/5/90, so it's next. As much as I liked 9/13/81, it was somewhat a distracted listen and I was not able to crank it up and I could tell it needed more volume. Is screamed and pleaded, turn me up.. but I was not alone.

I want to hit 9/11 & 12/81 at some point too. I guess we have work to do.

Enjoy your Saturday folks.

Working man’s dead

Yep, hup, hup, we gots work to do!

I just knew when we went for 9/13/81 that I should do the whole WE. The more we hit these three day runs, the more it seems imperative to do them all in order, since when you string em together their like one big show, sorta.
I guess I mean the individual shows make more sense in the context of the whole?
(Easy on the tubes there Butch, ahem; )
But a, so I’ve gone with 9/11&12/81 and I’m at Fire from the 12th.
Thought the first night (11)first set was perhaps a little Cali laid back?
Not a bad show, no, no, just, I think the second night has more “it”? Sometimes it’s hard trying to translate vibe into words, stoopid words, somewhere I believe we made an evolutionary wrong turn, and of course refused to stop for directions, but I digress…
EDIT: yeah don’t like how I left 9/11/81, there might not be as much Fire as 8/12, but it’s there, the second set is better and I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the Dew!
Yeah as much as I enjoyed the first night, the second seems to bring the fire, booth literally and figuratively!
Besides the ridiculous Scarlet/Fire, the groovy Shakedown opener, decent Bird Song, hot Cassidy (been several in our recent early 8s adventures), sick China-Rider, it’s gold Jerry, it’s gold I tell ya!
No SB, but fine aud, and you get a great look at just how mellow the bay crowd is, and I mean that in the best way!
I can’t believe I didn’t get to the Greek/Frost, shizboot!
Anywho, been really digging this one, can’t recall specifics of the13th, but that’s part of why I think you really have to go all in on some of these WEs. Bobs CCin and Haaa in and I got stuff todo. Oooppss, Bob goes way outta tune on that one lol.
ONWARD!

Definitely want to hit 5/5/90, hell I’ll prolly hit them both to fill that hole, perhaps mañana?
Think I’ll hit 9/16/72 at work perhaps Tuesday, but remember Monday we have a very special holiday to celebrate so stay tuned!