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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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August 19, 2022 - 1:18pm

#901

hendrixfreak

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Good call, Vguy

Hilarious, though, that my rant ran hundreds of words and ya provide a four-word counter-example! Good for you, catching the affordable shows. This year I'm down to two concerts, duly reported here (TTB, Raitt).

Oro -- my theory is that there are a lot of people out there, young and old enough to know better, who are living on serious credit card debt. Not to do the older generation thing, but growing up, I recall two times my family ate out at a restaurant. I didn't get a car til I was 30 (used Subaru). Blah blah. I think this happens with each successive generation ("Kids these days!"), but somewhere along the line I suspected it was hollow. I mean, 20-somethings out at nice restaurants? In Silicon Valley, I get it. South Denver?? WTH?

No complaints here. My folks raised me to not want anything (more than one more Dead show), so my material needs are books and CDs. If you knew me, you'd know I don't spend on clothing, for instance. I'd prefer money serve as the backstop to anxiety over making it in modern society. (Food, taxes, medicine, home and truck repairs.) And I do have sympathy for kids growing up now, with the commercial pressures, social media, and phones that actually siphon money from your pocket without going anywhere. And I see too many people glued to their freakin' phones. Sure is a handy device, but talk about shrinking your world and being on a short leash.

No wonder I still love gobbling shrooms and trekking off-trail in the backcountry. Now THAT'S got value, at least for my soul, which requires fairly frequent nourishment. But then, probably everyone here knows that...
August 19, 2022 - 1:18pm

#902

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

Gone are the days....

So many topics but first comment has to be about ticket prices and the good old days of concerts costing anywhere from 5 to 6 bucks up to 10 or 12. We used to go to a concert every weekend or every other weekend. I have a box full of ticket stubs to prove it. There were so many great bands back then you could catch a different act like that. Robin Trower one weekend, Foghat the next, then Yes and then Pink Floyd, all for 10 bucks of less. That's how it was. Last show was Bobby and the Wolf bros, tickets 100 bucks for back rows.
August 19, 2022 - 1:08pm

#903

estimated-eyes

Joined:
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concert prices

Forgive me if I have already written about the topic of concert ticket prices. It all goes back to the Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" tour. Up to that point, I was buying tickets to big acts like the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Grateful Dead for under $30. Then that tour happened, offering 'golden circle' tickets. Bands like the Rolling Stones saw that and starting cashing in on the Bridges to Babylon tour with fan pre-sales through credit card companies, higher ticket prices, etc... And it continues unabated today. To paraphrase the Big Lebowski, F the Eagles, man.

For Dead and Company at Wrigley Field this year, we bought $40 tix in the upper box on the day of the show. We could have had 'pit' at $200+ or front row on the field at $190+, direct from TMaster (not resale). I suspected that the scalpers did not quite know how post-covid ticket sales were going to go yet. We were quite content with the $40 upper box-- good sound and all good people up there. For the Tedeschi Trucks Band/Los Lobos show in Aurora, $59 GA for everyone. That is probably the best bargain I have had for a concert in 20+ years.

There is something wrong with society, really. We are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for tickets to a sports event, concert or something (2-3 hours of entertainment) with top athletes making hundreds of millions of dollars. But underpaid teachers have to buy classroom supplies out of their own pockets and poor kids getting in trouble for not paying their lunch cards. We really need to rethink our priorities as a society. OK, off my soapbox.
August 19, 2022 - 12:54pm

#904

Vguy72

Joined:
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MMJ tix were $70....

....just sayin'....aand I definitely don't go to fast food restaurants or Subways when I visit here. Green sauce allll day (and night).
August 19, 2022 - 12:28pm

#905

proudfoot

Joined:
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Concert expensiveness

Phuhq dat

Phuhq DAT
August 19, 2022 - 10:39am

#906

billy the kiddd

Joined:
November 8, 2021

Frosted / The Charles Ford Band

Frosted, The Charles Ford Band has always been one Of my favorites. They used to play at De Anza College in a place called the Cellar, it's now the De Anza bookstore. Mark Ford has always been one of my favorite harmonica players. They used to live in various houses here in Cupertino, along with the great harmonica player Gary Smith and other blues musicians.
August 19, 2022 - 9:23am

#907

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Greed fest etc

Yeah, how do kids pay for all this expensive crap?
Concert tix at hundreds of dollars, phones that cost over a grand, new cars while their just teenagers, tattoos, designer this and that, yet the seemingly majority don’t work? (I’m talking a statistical significant number, not you, based mostly on observations while still slaving away, of the young people I come across. Now I have met some recently that not only work, their more polite and balanced then we were BITD, which is refreshing and gives hope).
My point is not to bash anyone except the greed heads that think everyone’s a damn millionaire so it’s ok to be greedy!
Maybe that’s it: our culture now requires that you act or live like a millionaire even though you don’t deserve it!
Ok, rant over, “release the shit winds Randy”
August 19, 2022 - 8:56am

#908

frosted

Joined:
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New Mexico and Berkeley

Vguy, I'm with your vibe there on New Mexico. They don't call it the Land of Enchantment for nothing, and that word captures it about as well as anything. New Mexican food is my favorite variety of Mexican food in the US too - especially what I've had in Santa Fe and Taos. Posole (vegetarian for me), Blue Corn stuff, and Sopapillas, all pretty unique items, mmm. Here's a description I just saw of New Mexican food when I was doing a search to help my aging brain remember what Sopapillas were called -

New Mexican food mashes up Native American, Spanish, Mexican, French, Italian, Portuguese, and Southern culinary influences.

billy the kidd - I've been to all the different locations of Freight and Salvage over the years. Most recently, at the larger new one, just before Covid shutdowns, saw Arlo Guthrie on his Alice's Restaurant reunion tour (yeah he played the whole thing and it was hilarious and mesmerizing) and Bireli Lagrene (Few words can describe his greatness. He must be from another planet comes to mind.) at a Django festival there.

I presume you went to the former Larry Blake's near the UCB campus back in the day too. Two of the best I saw there were Robben Ford with his family's Charles Ford Band playing their brand of blues, and Amos Garrett (the guitarists' guitarist), both in the mid to late 1980s. Very small, smoky back then but entirely intimate setting. Sometimes I miss those days.
August 19, 2022 - 8:29am

#909

That Mike

Joined:
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HendrixFreak- You Are Absolutely Right

You are Dead-on in your assessment. I have many old concert stubs from way back. I paid $60 this week for so-so seats at a local venue to see Emmylou Harris, but by no means was that the top price; I looked at some stubs I have from the same venue from 1975ish - one example was Santana/Peter Frampton as opener $8 (Great seats, too). It always left you money for “carry in” refreshments, food and beer with the crew after, and money for the subway to get home. Now, if you are lucky, you park for $20 near a venue, and if it is “Game Day” or “Show Pricing”, it can be double that, and you haven’t even set foot inside to see the show/game yet.

John Lennon was on to something in 1963 when he told an audience “For our last number I’d like to ask your help. Would the people in the cheaper seats clap your hands? And the rest of you, if you’ll just rattle your jewelry.”
August 19, 2022 - 7:44am

#910

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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You said it, That Mike...

In the "old days" you got in line for tickets, most often GA, most often $5 to $10, then day of show you got in line early and dashed in to a show to secure center/up front seats, throw down a blanket and party til showtime. (And during and after, to be honest..)

Now bands want an annual subscription for decent pre-sale tickets. Then there's a general sale. The company here known as AXS "sells out" its tickets, but keeps some back for re-sale at "demand pricing." So a pair of Bonnie Raitt tickets a week before the show at Red Rocks was listed at $2000. Then the re-sellers besides AXS get into the act and sell tickets that they don't reveal where the seats are. Not going there.

A few years back, the Wall Street Journal showed a graph of how sports and entertainment ticket costs soared far above inflation as "modern America" (an oxymoron if I ever uttered one) clutched desperately at distractions from the ever-tightening vise of whatever the hell you call this place anymore. (Not bitter, just angry....)

So, yeah, the days when we hitchhiked 200 miles in a t-shirt and jeans with a $5.50 ticket and a sheet of blotter in our pockets is 50 years in the past. (And probably should be...) I'm dedicated to hitting Red Rocks until at least 2024 (that'll be 50 years at the Rocks), but the only bands now worth seeing (for me) are Tedeschi-Trucks and Bonnie Raitt and both strive to make their tickets affordable at $65 to $100. Otherwise, the era of big shows and big $$ are long over and physically (dammit) I can't spend a day hanging out for good GA seats. Besides, most of the up-front rows are reserved at top dollar prices.

So, we tend to go for the occasional theater show or the bars with good local bands.

All this may be the "way of the world," but as El Presidente of Get-Off-My-Lawn Enterprises, I don't have to like it. Besides, I gotta retire and ya can't do that catching 25+ big shows a year as in the past.

Rant not over! But yeah, kids coming up see only highly manufactured entertainment at ridiculous prices if they can even swing it. And a lot of the pop tours are crap anyway.

I think I need to take a walk outside now.......... Then back to DaP 43.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Have to hand it to Real Gone - DP 33

Shipped on Wednesday, hit my mailbox this morning; they also sent several tracking emails along the way - great service.
Vinyl is flat, blemish-free and sounds fantastic! Nice to have a full size booklet(love the S.S.F. banner, which was my home for many years.)
Great mail day, also got a sealed copy of DaP 43. To top it off, I have the house to myself.

Selective Reissuing of Dicks Picks

Maybe if they were to reissue some, but not all of them on cd, it would make sense to focus on the ones that are partial shows, and release them, in superior sound in their entirety. All the first 4 are excerpts only. Number 26 is-that would make a great release if the whole of 4/26/69 came out. This one has been re-released on vinyl, but as a replica of the old cd. Another one that would benefit from a move to whole show status would be number 31, from summer 1974. A real hotch potch, that one. You can never be sure what the heck you are listening to there unless you have a copy of a trusty Deadbase to hand. There may be others - 18 from 1978 is another one.

Reissue. 2/13 & 14/70. Please

If they remastered 2/13 & 14/70, and put all the songs together as they appeared in concert, it would be an absolute knockout!

Compilations vs whole shows

I'm usually more of a whole show person, but do gravitate to particularly strong compilations. Funny Daverock mentioned DiP 31 August 74, which is another one I like, and whole show releases on those would be outstanding.

With mention of Plangent recently, I thought I should point out an oddity I saw today in that 2/28/69 has Plangent's logo and 2/27 and 3/1 do not have it.

DiP 31 is Awesome

A great release. 12 gets all the hype, but this one is just as good, maybe better.

Much like many of the later releases, I think it sounds better too.

Re: DiP 31 Is Awesome

"Don't climb on the fence idiot!"

Robert Hall Weir,
August 6, 1974

Icing on the cake

What would be even better with 2/13 and 2/14 would be if they included the early shows as well. And even better than that - if they included the early and late shows from 2/11/70. An all time great box in the making.

FW69 vinyl

27 says ‘Plangent Process’ right under the line that says ‘Betty Cantor’ in the credits section of the insert.
28 says it on the outside of the box and also under Betty.
1 says it on the insert under Betty.

Dave, when do we get 3/2 on vinyl?

Complete Dicks

Completely on board with releases of the entire DP shows. I grabbed the remaining songs from DP 2 the other day, 10/31/71, and the missiing tracks are fantastic. Would love to have them receive the Full Norman. But I can't imagine Rhino undergoing the effort to release on CD. I would think they would think it would make for a confusing catalog. You would want to remaster them for sure as well as include the shows as complete. You couldn't call Dick's Pick 31 Dick's Picks 31 anymore. But If they released all three shows that DP 31 is compiled from under separate titles, then they would be competing with the original series (and who knows what kind of deal they struck with real gone to release the originals). And also may seem to them, not sure but it may seem to be a risky venture in the way of sales. That's for CD releases. I think what could work is a remastered download series of all the original shows. While I would certainly prefer CDs, I think the digital download method prove to be the most economical way to get the music to fans. The only problem there is file sharing could hurt their bottom line. Not really sure what the solution could be that is realistic. Dave Lemieux what do you think?

Dave Rock, Icing on the cake

Daverock, what a great release that would be,, it truly would be the icing on the cake.

The same icing Jerry got into back in the day?

If you know the folklore, good.

Keithfan: your heading has my inner 13 year old laughing

Back in 8th grade one time a teacher got pranked
Then pissed
He yelled
"YOU'RE A BUNCH OF DICKS!!!"

I can still hear him...

'Don't climb the fence, idiot!"

I wish he had told a certain someone "Don't climb the pole, Naked Guy!" two years prior

Appetite for Expanded Reissues

Keithfan2112 I suspect that you are right in your post about Rhino's motivation to reissue the DP series and identified some of the issues that might deter such an endeavor, but I think that there may be more of an appetite for expanded reissues to the Dicks's Pics series than you would expect. I base this on the constant stream of remastered editions and expanded editions being put out by various classic artists.

An example that was talked about on these threads recently would be the release of the concerts that were used for the Waiting for Columbus album by Little Feat. It appeared that even though parts of these concerts were released previously, there is enough of a market to release a multi-show box of the material. Similarly, if I understand it right, the recent El Mocambo 1977 release from the Rolling Stones also contained a show that had been released in part previously. Jimi Hendrix Songs for Groovy Children included material previously partially released on Machine Gun. And then there is the Beatles section of my shelves, with the original CD releases, the complete set of 2009 remasters, and all of the 50th Anniversary Editions. Led Zeppelin, Rush, Dire Straits, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Traffic, Jefferson Airplane, the Kinks, the Pretenders, Fleetwood Mac, and a number of others, all are bands that have released remastered, anniversary or expanded editions of their catalogue, and which are represented in whole or part on my shelves. There are box sets with complete recording sessions for several of the classic Miles Davis albums - the Complete Silent Way sessions, the Complete Bitches Brew sessions, and the Complete Jack Johnson sessions are on my shelf along with a single disc version of each. And the Cellar Door Sessions 1970 were used in part for the Live-Evil album, both of which are on my shelf.

So at least personally, I can say there is very little chance that I would be able to resist if they updated the Dick's Picks series to include missing material from the partial show or mixed show releases. Given the apparent appetite for an endless stream of remasters, anniversary editions and expanded editions of other band's catalogues, I suspect that I am not alone.

FW69 Vinyl

Okay, good to know it's just labeled differently on 2/28 on the outer packaging. I didn't look at the inserts, just the back of the box and noticed the Plangent logo in the middle of the bottom of the box on 2/28 only. I haven't opened my copy of 3/1 yet as it happens. Replaced record players recently, and having an issue with the speakers now, so haven't enjoyed any vinyl for some months. Which didn't stop me from ordering DiP 33 on vinyl...

Wonder what the next Dave's Picks vinyl will be, much less Dave's 44. I'll just throw out my annual hope and prayer for 8/4/76.

Oh, and I did recently get the Bear Sonic Journals of Johnny Cash and the Chieftains (on cd). Really good stuff. Really like the book-like packaging they're using now. That is awesome, and long, detailed liner notes is also pretty fantastic. Really really hope they get to release that 1968 show with the 45 min Alligator...

And I have always had a soft spot in my heart for Bob's commentary on 8/6/74 about the guy who hurt himself climbing the fence. Truer words were never spoken.

Speaker issues....

....did you try turning them off and on again alvarhanso?

Alvarhanso

Don’t know if you’ve tried this, but my turntable has a switch in the back for phono out or line out. It sounds bad if you don’t have the switch set correctly.

I might listen to one of the FW69 vinyl shows tonight.
But which one? I like them all.

Flick Of The Switch....

....AC/DC. 1983. I was a sophomore in high school when that came out.
I went to a private Christian high school.
But metal has no boundaries.
Edit. The Miami Dolphins were down 21 points going into the 4th quarter against Baltimore and won that shit.
Ergo, I'm spinning 10.26.89 Miami. Dark Dark Star.
One of my favorite songs they ever played. Outstanding.

Re: Don't

Don't climb on the pole Naked Guy!

That's hilarious.

9/19/70. Fillmore East

Dark Star

September 70 GD

Release it all

7 18 82
8 4 76

Great great great shows

PNW box
6 24 73

Rerelease Fillmore West 69!!! I have the money for it now!!!

access denied

tried to post about those 2 dark stars. access denied

Happy 50th Hendrixfreak!

Yes folks our one and only HF is celebrating the 50th anniversary of his first show!
I’m kinda surprised Dave didn’t foster a special release of this momentous “fall 72” show, but at least we’ll be spinning it on pick of the day in his honor!
To many more amigo!

Condolences

To all our friends here that are part of the British Empire.
Or is it the Commonwealth?
God save the King

Commonwealth

Commonwealth, the Empire thankfully is long gone, but thank you anyway.

I haven't watched any of it, why would you want to treat a family's grief as entertainment? No wonder they're all a bit weird, their lives must have been constant torture. Time to abolish the monarchy and let them live their lives in peace. I'm a republican on compassionate grounds 🙂

Ha. 9/19/70

I was going to post about that show in response to the discussion about partial releases. As long as it included the Dark Star and NFA segment, I doubt anyone would complain if that show was released as an incomplete show. At least not after you hear it.

Don't get me wrong, I would prefer complete shows, but will always take something like that. The results from the recent small, informal survey suggest that I am probably not alone. DP 2, 4 and 12 fared quite well.

Years of Hard Living

Years of hard living takes it's toll.

HendrixFreak looks rough for being only 50.

Get some rest HF, maybe some Noxzema on the wrinkles. Stay away from the hard liquor. I would say stop chasing young girls, but apparently, they were your age afterall...

As for 9/19/70, one of the great yet to be released shows of one of the more prolific years in their touring career. It's not if but when this gem will receive the Full Norman and grace our CD shelves.

Re Royalty and all that

No comment.

9 19 72

Yahoo!

Hendrixfreak, Hendrixfreak, Hendrixfreak

Kinda like Beatlejuice, since he’s leaving us hanging lol

Oh, and 9/19/70 is on Dave’s list that’s he’s been chipping away at over the years, so guessing there’s something in the vault?

Englands Dreaming

Istshow - thanks for the good cheer. My views on the subject are more in line with those expressed by Nick1234-but that's bye the bye.
I must say I am very impressed that some people on here seem to know the date of HF's first show. I don't even know the date of my own - and I only saw 5.

Blue Wild Angel (sorry for edit)

Had an (Jimi thang) itch for something wild that I hadn't seen in a while. Have had the disk (Wild Blue Angels dvd) in the que for a couple of months, but last night got to it. So I watched it last night and wow it is so great. Just forgot how good a show that was, so many great song renditions, LOVE machine gun. I found it an odd coincide, that Jimi opens the show with a little speech about supporting your own people, and if you don't FU. Then opens with God Save The Queen. Sort of blew me away. Understand HF's name that much more. If you have bought the Wild Blue Angel dvd, your missing out. As I had not heard since I added a sub woofer, it was all new again.

Jim and HF, I think I remember both of you dealing with health issues and maybe folks issues a couple of months back. Meant to express condolences and well wishes for both of you. Getting old can really suck.

Finally, a huge Thank You to Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, Pete Bell, Dave, and Jeffrey (and all the others as well) for #43 . It has absolutely transformed me in so many ways. Have listened to the release 10 times now and it just gets better and better. I had this incredible epiphany of just how much Dead there could still to be released in the future and this Great Blanket of Joy came across me and I felt so fortunate that the band of merry pranksters found me 40 years ago. I am so very excited about the future of entertainment coming my way. Just extremely grateful. As someone wrote when this came out...these are some of Bear's Choicest releases. Can only imagine if the tape machine had been set at 7ips, how much increased clarity would be there. Makes me wonder if that clarity would be for Phil's sound.

Have a lot to post, wonder if anyone saw Trey Anastasios' booking for acoustic solo shows at the Beacon in NYC. The Beacon has just hard wired in a new immersive technology P.A. from Holoplot out of Germany. Looks like a wild P.A. but they act like they re-invented the wheel, when all they have done is copy Bear, Healy, and John Myers work. Would love to hear that system, but the immersive technology they speak about is what I and many others called Holographic Sound. I think ConeKid posted when I posted an article about Meyer's sound and seeing the FTW shows with his latest and greatest system (and that was 7 years ago). If you see this ConeKid, I wanted to post back about how great that must have been and ask, how Holographic did the sound seem for these shows? As I have posted, my first real experience with line arrays and holographic sound was 1987/09/11 at the Cap Center in Landover. I remember Jim commenting how bad the sound was unless you had choice seats. I guess I had choice seats as we were on row 2 behind Healy and it sounded incredible. So any way, more rants later.

But again, I cannot express my gratitude enough for the crew that brought us DaV#43.

GFar

The sound at FTW depended where I was.
First night I was upper level side (Jerry side), but 2nd row, aisle seat, with the first speaker tower pointing right at me. The sound was crystal clear.
Second night lower bowl near stage, Phil side, but just under the overhang which amplified all the voices behind me and muddied the sound a bit.
Third night I was straight back about half way up the bowl. There I got the full effect of the sound system and it was real and spectacular.

Here’s the video, the audio was recorded in mono and split to stereo when I processed the video.

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/Oswmu2IOPEk

Let’s see if that works. Piece them back together. Yes, that period belongs between the u and b.

Wild Blue Angel,
I need to buy that.

Cone

It worked...have bookmarked the show, will try to run through it the next few days. Thanks!!!

Trying to get ready for some time down on the gulf, been a while since I have been. A good week of friends and parties.

Edit: and if any body cares search for Immersive Sound at the Beacon and it will pull up. Going to be installed at MSG Sphere being built in Las Vegas that opens next year.

Cheers to all, no it is pushed back but can't wait for the new box. And my DiP top 5 the same as BTK, just little different order.

DSO Frankfurt, 09/19/22

Just returned from the DSO - Europe '72 - 50th Anniversary Tour - Frankfurt.
Awesome!
They played the original set from 04/26/72, over 4 hours in total. Great vibes!
What a scene, old memories came up, absolutely fantastic.
Their next shows are Berlin tomorrow and Munich on Thursday. Seems like Wednesday they have a day off. Would be good for visiting Oktoberfest.
Cheers G.

Thanks GFar

All are recovering on my end, thanks for asking. The alternative in both cases was grim. Everything is not perfect, but thanks to modern medicine they both have more fuel to add to the fire.

Speaking of fire.. I hit 11/30/80 a week or so ago and they played 10/31/80 on SiriusXM. Two hot early 80's Fires. Smokin' (pun intended).

Jim, your very welcome

I hate watching friends and loved ones starting to struggle with this life. Life is a struggle, that is why we play Dead.

Howdy Gary

For some interesting reading on immersive sound check out interviews from Widescreen review with Wilfried Van Baelen of Galaxy studios and the founder of Auro 3D. I think the 2 in depth ones I read were from five or more years ago? I’d add lynx if I could.
Way better than Atmos but needs to be set up properly so it will produce phantom images in the vertical as well as horizontal plane.
I use it all the time in our theatre especially for concert videos as it adds a more holographic psychoacoustic effect than goofy placement of instruments in back speakers etc, very natural sounding!
Atmos is ok if your watching an Atmos encoded movie, but otherwise meh…
Being a fellow geek I bet you’ll dig it, if you can find the right interviews?

Sorry Proudfoot

Been super busy AND under the weather...Tivoli info was from an email I received...

Jim and OB

Jim check PM

OB: thanks I think I found them, will have to read and get back to you.

Makes me go back almost 40 years when I went to an friend's house and he and another freak had large tower Polk speakers. Will have to research some, maybe get back in touch with my friend about them. They had a cable between the two speakers to create (by software) an imagined center speaker. It worked really well as you may know. It was the same technology that Bear was working on with the microphones for the WoS. That is, if memory serves. Been a while since I went back through that stuff. My tv and my old stereo (2 stereo speaker sets with sub) create amazing sound at times. I mean hearing sounds to my side and behind my head. I know this has a lot more to do with software than hardware. I think it is awesome, except when it startles me, still getting used to it. Any way will be back in touch after I do a little reading, cant wait. Thanks!

Returning from, er, to the Dead...

Thx Gary Farseer for your comments. Glad you're enjoying our man Jimi.

Back on the upswing here... lost the 20+ year cat, then my father, both of whom lived very full lives and their demises in May and June, respectively, were merciful. Lined myself up for a cardiac ablation procedure for atrial fibrillation, which is quite challenging to endure. Procedure in November. Prognosis: good. And just got a second opinion on my ankle for which I had arthroscopic surgery last December and which was not healing. Looks better now (MRI) for gradually pushing myself to recovery; shots lined up for the knee (fractured, inoperable cartilage cracks). Carpal tunnel syndrome demands attention and thinking, after enduring it 30 years, that surgery might be a rational option. Other than a few trivial things like those, LIFE IS FUCKING GREAT! Seriously, just a positive prognosis in several areas does so much to lift the lid of depression. So, despite the seemingly downer, TMI content here, I'm actually very optimistic for my physical and mental health. Talk about over-sharing.... But that's my message: glass is half-full, I'm gonna pull it together.

Heading to the Oregon coast tomorrow for two weeks to walk the beaches, eat a little psylicibin (and seafood), work on new tunes for another album of original music with a 6-strg and a neat newish 12-strg (then an all-blues project) and get outta Dodge for the first time in years. Well we did just do 50 miles in packrafts (all upper body stuff) on the Green River. (JimInMD: we did a dozen Class IIs and one Class III the first day, then we had beer coolers stashed at our camping spots, reachable by four-wheel drive, so a highly disciplined trip...)

I have been pummeled by time and age and now that I'm on Medicare, you all are kindly helping me with expensive but badly needed medical help. Looking foward to some smokin' '81 GD, Jimi from LA/'69 and a dozen other 'new' CDs I copied for the road. I asked a 29-year-old waitress pal to go with me, but she had to work. Nonetheless, that proves that I'm "up" for the challenges before me.... Yours truly, HF

P.S.

I cannot effin' wait for 90 minutes of live GD from E72. Man, we're gonna rock at a local theatre with local freaks in early November. Talk about a dream come true! No film of the band can best a night from the E72 tour.

Yet another reason to be glad to be alive amidst ... well, you know the score.

Hendrixfreak/E72

Yes, can't wait for the MUATM.

Keep breathing out there Hendrixfreak.

Thank you for a real good time!

I don't often post here, but when I do... it might be with a few brews under my belt and an anniversary to consider.

Can't say how much I appreciate the way that this crew inspires me to break out discs I haven't heard in a while... DP 36 being the most recent. Wow.

Listening right now to an acoustic Truckin' (yep, process that) from 52 years ago. 9/20/70 needs to be officially released, with Full/Partial/Whatever Normanization...soon. If for no other reason than I need to determine whether I love the 5/15 Easy Wind better than the one on 9/20.

As posted previously, DaP (46) could easily carry 9/20 with a killer bonus disc of 9/19.

DaP 43 topical question: is the engineer worried that the train will actually crash?

Or is he concerned that his job has just been outsourced to a more competent monkey?

9/19 & 20/70 Fillmore East

Official release please..

HF

Good luck. It's hard to know at this age, when some new pain develops if it's something that can be rectified, or if it's something that is now a part of us. Should we be, like, really worried - or just forget about it?

I'd be all for 9/19 and 9/20/70 coming out officially. Top medicine.

HF

You missed your party!
We even had cake!

Cake

With lots of acid in the icing.. Sorry you missed it.

Cake

Yeah that cake was tasty, but I still feel kinda funny?

Nappy et all

u still sick? man, get well soon m8. Most anything from fall 1970 would be sweet. My list of aliments isn't that long, feeling better now. Hope we don't start comparing ailments here, gee, sounds like the talk I hear when I go to the old folks home to visit my 95 year old mother-in-law. All kidding aside, just this year I too have been feeling my age.

what now?

Suffer cheerfully.

HF

You're welcome HF. I started looking back at Hendrix and you know how it goes when the rabbit hole swallows you. Starting thinking back about how good the Experience Hendrix show I saw in 2019, wow, miss 2019. It was a great show, but compared to BWA it pales in comparison. Started me looking for other Hendrix official and unofficial releases. Going to find something I am sure, any recommendations would be most appreciated.

Uber space cake, smoke in the cake, acid in the icing? wow not sure I would handle that well now, would have loved in times gone by.

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