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  • rockthing
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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

  • rockthing
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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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Not the one from somebodies collection, I think it was the first one?
Yes it’s a ruff, but kinda fun in a way, and not many weird yelling in inappropriate spots etc, lot’s of clapping, but hey their mostly in time! Perhaps not the spaceship of some of its neighbors, but it is fall 72 non the less.
I bet the whole dealy made an impression on young HFs juvenile brain lol. Kudos to you senior freak!

9/16/72: actually hit that one via GOGD awhile back, I marked that I liked it…maybe I’ll hit 9/15 tomorrow as I’ve not yet.

5/5/90: aaa no offense to anyone, but I thought they weren’t prepared this night?
Just Talking out me arse: but after the sick spring tour they were off for a month and might not have practiced etc, I think some of these Cali gigs were considered practice some times.
It has moments, but for a 1990 show I was surprised how inconsistent they were.
After a couple nice soundcheck songs (openers), they had me stoked for a hot H/S/F, and they even sound itching before hand, then…Phil is not on it lol, and Jer steps off the gas and just lays down some chords until they can at least entrain. Perhaps an ambitious choice considering? But hey, I wasn’t there, that’s just what it sounds like…
By Queen Jane the drugs seemed to have settled ; ) and their more dialed in. Rest of the set is ok, but again, I’m comparing to early/mid 90 status quo, so wouldn’t say it was great.
Loved the spacey Playin, Crazy Fingers, but Uncle Js has another big Wiff, and yeah, I’m glad I heard the show, but more so the next night!

5/6/90: this to me, is more what you expect from early 90!
They shook the previous nights cobwebs off, and they sustain that consistent peaceful easy feeling that you’d expect from 90. Glad I finally hit these. I’ve thought the 6th or perhaps 6/24 would make good possible BTL 50th shows since I believe they and Brent’s last on 7/23 are the only shows that sport 4 tunes off the album. From what I recall of 7/23, I wouldn’t think that’d be the one? I know Autzen on the 24 gets love, and it has a good set list, so who knows? (I haven’t heard that one)
Dave will probably pick something from 1988 with 2 album tunes on it lol.
But this Dominguez Hills show on the sixth might work too?

Going to have to hit those Oree gone shows sooner than later…

Sorry DV, I’m running late: supposed to be off and relaxing, but the feed line to the pull out Kitchen facet sprung a leak. Luckily we were here so not too much damage in the finished basement, or gulp, the theatre gear below!
What a racket, have spent good part of 2 days trying to replace a $20 dollar part instead of a new facet for probably hundreds of denaros! But they list no model numbers or any identifiable info, and of course you need the info, because of course there’s no universal type parts, FFS! Oh well, time to prep:
Go Bills!
Go VIKS!

Vguy, yer Fish are starting to scare me! Should be a good one next week.

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Another solid night for the Bills. Yes, I can totally see why we didn't want Diggs around anymore?

Yes, a little rough.

Been thinking about 76 and want to offer 6/3/76, the official return of the Dead. Paramount Theatre Portland OR.

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DVikes, Going for a strong start right out of the gate with their first official show after their hiatus... I'm up, have two cups of strong black coffee running through my veins. Nothing but random tasks (not to be confused with odd jobs) scheduled all day which means I can most certainly fit this one in.

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Not sure I’ll get tunes today?
That’s ok, I’ve hit those shows somewhat recently.
First night was ok, but like the Dominguez shows perhaps a little Rusty, but by the second night the bugs are gone!
We’ll see how my memory is?
I’ll prolly get a little on in the background…

Sorry bout dem VIKS. Did they play that bad or are the Eagles that good?
I thought the Eagles were in decline, but I don’t know much about NFC?

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....don't worry. They're going to suffer their first loss this Sunday when they visit Miami. You heard it here first. 🐬

You maybe right!
Fish are looking strong and their a bit behind the rivalry after last few years, so probably will be pumped to bring it.
Ballers!
Should be a good game!
Whatevs happens, just hope it’s a clean game with no weirdness or the refs mucking it up…

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I used to live in Buffalo. There isn’t a city in this country that is more deserving of a championship than the city of Buffalo. Such great people in that city. I really hope that this is the year.

Edit: not to offend any other city. It’s just that Buffalo has never won a title in any sport. Minnesota at leasrt won with the Twins and Cincy had the Reds in the 70’s just to name a couple

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Wait now, don’t forget the Bandits lacrosse team won a few championships ; )
But yeah, we’re due lol

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Oroborous, I’m also forgetting that the Bills did win a couple of AFL championships in the mid 60’s, so to rephrase, Buffalo hasn’t won anything in the “modern era” of sports………except for lacrosse of course Ha!

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I've hit this before, but it's been a while (years?). Honestly, I don't think they were rusty as expected, in fact they sounded rather rehearsed. A lyric flub in Wharf Rat, some timing misques, nothing big really.

What I liked was the ethereal swank they settled into, what a groove. And how about JG's tone in the opening jam in Dancin' in the Streets? Opening with a strong, partially audience Might as Well seems appropriate. Love the early Help>Slipknot!>Franklins too. I think we got more in 76 than any other year (or it at least seems that way).

Nice show, a rut remover if ever I have heard one. Thanks DV.

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Love the laid back groove of this show as well Jim. First time for me, and I definitely will come back. Sound quality on this 2017 transfer from Miller recorded by Betty is really good. 4 1/2 dancing bears.
Might as well gets it going, good Row Jimmy, great TMNS, really solid Scarlet, Dancing to close the first set.
Crazy Fingers, Wharf Rat into Let it Grow, is this the first version without the WRS? Great stuff. I like this It Must Have Been The Roses. Help Slip Franklins, fantastic. Really nice extended Slipnot here. OMSN and close with the Wheel!
Could be a release at some point?
They played some really good shows at the Paramount in Portland.

What is next?

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Yep, Rusty’s not right. Super mellow, yes.
The third wasn’t quite how I remembered, but I still think you can hear subtle differences the next night as they’re past all the comeback/opening energy etc, and back in the saddle!
Glad I rehashed them, they were a nice enjoyable change, and the space I was in yesterday I appreciated the mellow.
Still can’t believe how mellow the crowd was. Like Phil say something about glad to be back, and there’s almost no crowd. If that had been NY, the place would have gone nuts!
Perhaps that’s why they choose mellow sorta out of the way Portland: to use as warm up shows without as much distraction/media etc? Rehearsal fir the big east coast tour that probably was a media circus, 76 style anyway.
Whatevs, 2 interesting but perhaps slightly different kind of shows, from a different kind of year.
Some old polished chestnuts and some cool new songs that unfortunately didn’t stick around much.
If only they’d thrown in the occasional DS in 76. Can you imagine a DS via that mellow groove…

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And I need work fuel, imma gonna go with more box prep ala 3/7/81 and 9/17/82.
I figure I’ll hit a couple more of these shows this week, then since the release day is supposedly the 27th (which means at least another week before it’s probably in my grubby little hands), next week we fully cleanse!
Looking at more fall 79, more 76 and 77, some 73 or 74, maybe something later, and most def some primal. Nothing cleanse better than some full on primal!
After all the Dicks talk elsewhere, perhaps we can fire up one of those awesome fall 72 DPs on the WE to enjoy under proper conditions? Or,…? Chever way your pleasure tends!

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Unusual sets, early versions, good energy. Been really digging this region, looking forward to the box!
Both worth a listen.

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3/7/81 OB?

I will get it going tomorrow.

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Like a north bound train.

Yep, you’ll like that one DV, the 82 was good too.

Today I’m powering my labor with 9/13/83 and 6/30/87.
Somehow I’ve not listened to Manor Downs, and since we were digging on some 87 back aways, I thought we’d dip into the 87 summer tour again.

Tomorrow was thinking to end box prep we’d go 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.
Maybe the Frost 82 this WE?

Next week full cleanse, anything but 81-83 lol.

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Cole Field House - March 7, 1981
"Uncle John" tease after "Saint"

setlist

Alabama Getaway
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dire Wolf
Me and My Uncle
Big River
Candyman
C.C. Rider
Jack-a-Roe
Passenger
Bird Song
Looks Like Rain
Deal

Iko Iko
Lost Sailor
Saint of Circumstance
drums
Truckin'
Black Peter
Around and Around
Johnny B. Goode

One More Saturday Night

Madison Square Garden - March 9, 1981
"Wheel" tease before "Good Lovin

setlist

Feel Like a Stranger
Althea
C.C. Rider
Ramble on Rose
El Paso
Deep Elem Blues
Beat it on Down the Line
Bird Song
New Minglewood Blues

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Samson and Delilah
Ship of Fools
Estimated Prophet
Uncle John's Band
drums
The Other One
Stella Blue
Good Lovin'

U.S. Blues

source: dead.net

P.S. I am not a robot

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Ok, continuing with box prep 2022 with 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.

Yep, that 3/7/81 was another one, really getting stoked for this box!
And I forgot how rippin 6/30/87 from Canadaland was: musta been somethin I ate ; )
That and the 84 show kinda blur together. I remember we dropped exactly at the border designation point half way across the peace bridge (so if pulled at customs we’d have nothing on us, only in us lol) so by the time we arrived things were getting interesting. You entered through a amusement park which to me looked like we were in a real life Flintstones episode! I remember during the second set being pretty high and needed to walk it off a bit, so went up to the top of the lawn during the killer S/F. I can remember holding on to the iron fence and watching a sick sunset during a ragging Fire on the Mountain, but not much else? If you dig summer 87 you’ll want to check this one out!
That second set is ferocious.

Hey now WTJ, welcome back. How was the road trip in that new buggy?

Ok, big anniversary looming: Frost 10/9 and 10/10/82.
I was thinking of doing them this WE since by Rocktober perhaps we’ll hopefully be in full box immersion and/or be needing to move on etc. But would like to hear some thoughts on that?
So, do we hit the Frost before the box, or wait until, Rocktober sometime???

Sounds like a plan OB. I also want to check out that June 87 show. Looks like there is a relatively new Miller out there.

Gave 3/7/81 a go yesterday and wasn't really in the mood for an audience so went with 5/23/72.

Hopefully we will all have the new box next weekend, but I am not counting on it.

Enjoy yourselves out there.

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Since so many great sources and newer ones always coming in, input on sources for the POT day choice is always appreciated.

Trip with dad in the new ride was bittersweet OB (I'll shoot you a line in a bit). Thanks for asking and Keep the Grate Picks Coming All. :-) :-) :-)

P.S. -edit- From the Seamons: Rule 1 'If you're going to be boogieing, be careful about the level you're at.' Oh, and do stay out of the trees. :-P

Pharoah Sanders opened and his set was uploaded to the utoobs yesterday 9/24 following his passing. it's a pre-FM source, just listened, and it sounds beautiful. Pearson/Healy Miller master of the Dead's sets is available and sounds way good also as I dip my toe into that. maybe do the two-fer. just saying.

Home, so want somthin completely different to hear on actual stereo!
Was thinking 9/27/72 or DP 11?

Have enjoyed the pre box dive, but need to cleanse hard this week so if/when the box shows were ready!

I’ll revisit the last couple days shows right after this commercial break!

Ok, where we’re we?
Frost. 10/9/82, somehow I’d never heard this one but sure glad I finally did.
Definitely a fine show and good recording (Miller though the other SB I tried was just as good)
But as is often the case with a first show after a break, it’s off in spots and is sorta the warm up show.
JG especially seems to be having some troubles, which going by Bobs teasing him about his rig not working (guessing that’s because Bobs gear always seemed to have issues so I bet the band/crew gave him endless crap).
So, first day back to work and your shit don’t work etc. But the occasional snafus certainly do not mean this is not a top show, I just don’t feel it’s consistent enough for release. Big Powerful back side and all, but the next night is a different story!
10/10/82: by the next night all cylinders are firing, Bob especially is having a big night! Best LL Rain? Well, perhaps not the GOAT but…! They come out rocking and rarely let up. This, and excerpts from the 9th would make a nice DaP!
The Miller was good, but I’m not sure about the mix? It seems to be mixed more for the venue as the instruments are often back in the mix comparatively. I should relisten with a good aud as I bet the live sound was fantastic!
Perhaps with the full “treatment”, and/or if there’s another mix somewhere, this one could be spectacular?

Ok, BC, perhaps I’ll try the 5/21 twofer mañana at work, but I needed something different and really needed a official release of something as I’ve been binge streaming on crappy gear or even just my iPad so my ears need it!

So that’s we’re I’m at, hope DV (and you too) are fully digging the Frost shows. If you’ve never, you must!
Onward!

Go Viks!

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Still working my way through the Frost shows and really like 10/9/82 so far. Love these early versions of West LA Fadeaway. Fun on the Road Again, Big River, Dupree's, yes! Recording is really good. Nice groove to the show.

Way behind but Dick's 11 sounds good as well as the 92 show from Bluecrow.

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Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Stanley Theater, September 27, 1972

As the man said, ”Morning Dew to open the first set???” And a He’s Gone to open the second set. And a 30 minute Dark Star, into Cumberland no less. And a rare Attics of My Life. It’ll all dew quite nicely…………

Dick’s Picks 11, released June 9, 1998. Is this one that fell through the cracks? Dust it off, it’s dew for a revisit………………

OK yes there’s a patch, but it’ll dew just fine………………..

The dew of compassion is a tear…..

Rock on!!

Doc
But see, Orion sheds unwholesome dews;
Arise, the pines a noxious shade diffuse;
Sharp Boreas blows, and nature feels decay,
Time conquers all, and we must time obey…..

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I'm down with this one. Grate pick Doc, this is just a wonderful show and a really good recording. I have a little smiley face beside this Dark Star, that means that it's mighty fine. Thanks for reminding me how far out this show is.

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Monumental show! Really got your money's worth with that huge set list. Sound was VERY good and I had it cranked for Phil's descending bombs in that opening Dew. Loved Paul Grushkin's notes in the liner. Good chronologic description of how it feels as the rush commences. Classic DS>Cumberland and a high energy finish to top it all off.
Glad I got to dust this one off. So much just sitting there waiting. I'm sure I have some Dave's I've only heard once or twice. So much GD, so little time.
Cheers

Good idea OB. It has been a while. Such a good pick Doc also gave it the nod.

24 years later and it is still good. I mean, any show that starts off with a Morning Dew, Bird Song, Brokedown Palace, China Rider Playing all in the first set. Yes and of course that second set Dark Star, Cumberland, Attics? Come on. Easy to see why Dick wanted this one out. What a fun ride.

No box shipping notice yet for me. I did buy my tickets for MUATM for November 1.
2-3 weeks out for the #44 announcement.

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It's got a Cumberland.. Honestly, I had not listened to this in a long time also. In the abundance of riches.. so many good shows have been released. I should listen to some of them more.

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Wow.

May the four winds spare your safely home.

Did we do 8/3/82 Starlight Theatre KC? Was looking for a hot, not 1972 Cumberland Blues??

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Hey Jim, sorry for the delay.

I don't think we ever hit 8/3/82, so let's do it. I think OB is keeping the list so I could be wrong.

It doesn't look like we will have the new box this weekend, so let's keep it rolling.

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I think I hit that this summer when I was bingeing out. Not at home so can’t check my DB, but the set list looks familiar, especially that Shakedown Samson, which spoiler alert the transition is nothing special.
But hey don’t let my overindulgence hold ya back. Fire it up!
I just went too far with the early eighties binge so staying away until box binge.

Enjoyed DP 11 Monday at home in big speakers etc, always loved that whole DS>Cumberland>Attics thread, and a decent Dew opener, yep, definitely a big Dick!

I did hit 5/21/92 yesterday. Ok for 92, perhaps a bit anemic early on but the second set gets going and hey, always enjoy a nice SOTM.
In general, I’m cutting back on Dead a little as I’m kinda burnt lol.
But supposedly the box arrives Saturday by 7:00? Good news is it’s moved rapidly and more efficiently than usual (no criss crossing the state passing within 1.5 miles of our house) bad news is they went with this lane ass sure post garbage so now I have to stress out worrying how they labeled it and if then the PO will except it or send it back, uuugggghhhhhh, why, WHY?? Every other box we’ve gotten has been straight UPS no BS USPS chaser!
It’s bad enough we have to worry about weather Dave’s makes, at least the box’s usually come right to the house!
Sucks not getting mail at home but, Oh well, all good things in all good time!
ONWARD!

Oh, ps Hey Bluecrow, couldn’t find a Pharaoh Sanders on archive?
Where ya find that again?

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Oro - search "pharoah sanders 5/21/92 utoob" on the goggles and it should be top result video or near top. It is an audio only source however. It sounds beautiful.

as for the Dead's sets - yeah, it's '92. I thought set I was pretty good sorta sparked by the Pharoah Sanders set. Only made it through the Scarlet > Fire in Set II so far then got distracted. I actually thought energy dropped a little for that but not bad for that year. I thought the source ultramatrix sounded really really fine.

DiP 36 was awesome. Right now listening to Baltimore release from Fall' 72 (DiP 23).

I know some of us have have hit 8/3/82 at at least 2 different times. Not sure if it was ever an "official" POTDWD. Great show from a great tour. Excellent Set I including a Big Railroad and a Might as Well. Then that Shakedown opener Set II plus a To Lay Me Down and a Let it Grow before drumz!! Casey Jones encore says a lot.

No shipping notice yet on box.

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Dark DV with laser eyes

Can't remember the show but that sounds like Bob.

Turns out I did get a shipping email on the 28th. Missed it in the flood of junk mail. Box is in Salt Lick as of last night. Hopefully it gets here before I have to skip town for some work. Mail innovations works just fine for me when its shipped out of Cali. From Kentucky? Now that sorta sucked. Having said that the FedEx version is far far worse for those of us who depend on their SLC hub. A package can sit there for weeks before FedEx manages to get it to USPS.

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I know where to look now.

DV, shit, I remember that, I had that tape, but can’t recall the show? Definitely Bob lol.

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Yes, it is definitely Bob.

5/13/77 and a great show.

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Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Springfield Civic Center, October 2 1972

The last show of the wonderful 1972 Fall East coast tour. Worth waiting for? Absolutely!!

Fourteen song first set, twelve song second set (with much jamming and a Dew), the rare Tomorrow Is Forever, and a two song encore. Lacking only a Star, this is about all one could expect from the Dead at this moment of time. In other words, very fine and thank you very much!!

AND there’s a very decent Miller remaster out there. Perhaps an official release one day? We can only hope!!!!

Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish……..

Rock on!!

Doc
Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself……

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Do you get all this wise advice from books or come up with yourself? :-)

Thanks for the grate picks as always...maybe hit us with an 80's 90's again sometime...:-) :-) :-)

Make it a grateful day all...

I didn't remember that DV. I was thinking maybe a Fillmore East show. Been a long while since i've checked 5/13 out. The first set is a doozy - got the first of those amazing Spring '77 Jack-a-Roes plus that Scarlet > Fire. Last Dead show in the Auditorium, which was a pretty proper place, I think they had Andy Frain ushers working there. After that it was the Uptown which was a bit more tolerant of the scene. Only show I saw at the Auditorium was Garcia and Kahn summer '82.

That Springfield 10/2/72 show is new to me and sounds like a must do.

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Word is circulating backstage and pretty soon we will have a full band on stage.Calling Doctor Shot. Dr. Beechwood you are needed on stage immediately. Billy and Mickey played some sort of Prank and the full band wasn't on stage ready to go for TMNS. Funny stuff, of course I wasn't there but they always seemed to have a good time out there.
In a sea of great shows, 5/13/77 and 5/12/77 have been somewhat neglected by me. They shouldn't be. Both are great. There is something about these Peggy Os and Terrapins. Yes, Bluecrow, that Other One from 5/13 is hot. Love the 77 Jack a Roes. Stella Blue GDTRFB.
Of course Phil back in 77 no longer singing but giving us the Thank you and Goodnight!
Did you guys get your MSG Box Sets?

Mine is showing a Thursday delivery date. Looking forward to it.

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I sure don't remember that from my FM tape back in the day! Maybe my memory isn't what it used to be either! I'm sorta in the same boat DV, my attention's has been on other shows in this tour and it's been ages. I have that box, but was streaming it today, jumped in at FOTD. Just now going back to the opening songs. A fun listen.

edit -went to the official release and the Dr. Beechwood "banter" is edited and a good portion is missing.

#8058

scheduled for delivery tomorrow but figured UPS handed off this afternoon, so went and asked before the PO closed

I like it

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A portion of it was played on GD Hour at some point in the 90’s if I recall correctly.
I taped it and that was the best sounding copy of that show (partial) that I ever had, until the Box came out.

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Been a bit occupied, but I like the prospect of revisiting 5/12 and 5/13 tomorrow.

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Okay, for those of us still waiting on our boxes, how does 4/11/89 sound?

There is a Miller from 2019 recorded by Pearson and Healy.

For those with your boxes, I understand and enjoy.

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They played 4/6/89 Ann Arbor on Sat Radio tonight and I was unexpectedly stuck in my truck waiting for almost the entire show. Rolled it into 4/11 Rosemont when I got home making it through the end of the first set.

Solid, typical spring 89. I'm a sucker for Memphis Blues and the deal was hot as was the Shakedown opener. I tend to gravitate towards fall '89 over spring and summer '90 but that's just personal preference. Spring was the warm up but it's quite solid, typically well played and as the year progresses the songs and shows begin to show their legs. For me the turning point is 9/29 Shoreline but the whole year is really quite solid.. it just grows and grows.

Hope to hit the rest menyata.. Wasn't able to side trip on Spring 77 as planned. Life is unpredictable. Sometimes you just have to roll with it.

Looks as though tomorrow I'll do pretty much the same. Good pick.