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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    Daverock, of course I too went straight to the Red Rocks shows upon first listen before hearing the rest of the box. After getting to all of them I was calling 7-3-78 St. Paul the hidden gem. That must have been a peak period for them. The energy is there. Almost swaggering I'd say, like they need a pack of cigarettes rolled into the sleeve of their t-shirt.
    Cheers

  • daverock
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    I also played Omaha 7/5/77 after reading Oroboros's post. The first set, last night-excellent - Jerry's guitar sounds as cool and clear as the driven snow. Own up time....for the last couple of years, when I have played shows from this 78 box, I have played the first one 7/1, missed out the next two and gone on to the two Red Rocks shows. I have no idea what put me off Omaha in the past - makes me wonder what other unidentified jewels I have here.

    Exile - I was unfairly dismissive of Black and Blue, too. It's a very entertaining album - I didn't like funk or disco in the 70's, but that's no excuse now. I wasn't keen at all when it came out-Spring 1976, I believe. With Mick Taylor gone, "Fool To Cry" issued as a single and punk waiting in the wings, The Stones, along with most of the great bands from 1965-1975 suddenly seemed a bit passe. I bought the first Ramones album in Summer 1976-that was the sound of the times for me. 40 odd years later... Black and Blue is still on my playlist, and I no longer even have that Ramones album.
    I saw The Stones at Knebworth in 76 - and I have the programme here-nothing to do with music, but it's curious how The Stones and their fans were presented. In the article on The Stones, it states, "Young boys eagerly flocked the Mary Quant make up department in Harrods trendy Way-In shop on Saturday afternoon.The disco pumped out "Hey Negrita" as the boys applied eye liner and lipstick to gaunt virginal faces." I don't think so. I was 19 then, and the article seemed to show how out of touch The Stones had become at that time, with my generation.
    They also apparently had a food stand where you could buy a portion of chicken curry for 0.55p. This in the middle of the hottest heat wave for decades.

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    That Estimated > Eyes is outstanding. That Eyes of the World has always been a go to post hiatus Eyes.. it's outstanding. I've always been big on that box. 7/1 never circulated and is outstanding, the first Red Rocks shows did circulate and are well.. not to overuse the term but outstanding. A great moment in GD history perfectly preserved for us to enjoy. Aptly timed as we are entering a holiday weekend and the box centers around the Fourth of July.

    Outstanding

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    Been looking at that July 1978 box when picking some dead to listen to lately, but keep getting sidetracked by a different choice, but Oroboros' post about the virtues of the July 5, 1978 Omaha show prompted me to give it a listen today. Currently on Wharf Rat. I always liked that show, and the recording is excellent. I imagine it was exponentially cooler to be there in person at the time. The artwork on that one is probably about my favorite from that box as well, and I liked all the art from that box, a lot.

  • Exile On Main St.
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    Hey guys, I lurk more than anything but I saw some Stones talk and I agree with Dave Rock. It's Only Rock 'n Roll is an underrated album. The thing with it in my opinion, is that the songs are either dynamite (like the opening song fictional drummer) or B side material. The other problem is a couple of the songs suffer from Led Zeppelin IV / Dark Side of the Moon syndrome, meaning they've been played on the radio so much that they've lost a little luster (title track and Ain't Too Proud to Beg). I think these songs are pretty high quality once you're sitting back giving them your full attention (In their order of appearance on the LP).

    If You Can't Rock Me
    Ain't Too Proud to Beg
    It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)
    Till the Next Goodbye
    Time Waits for No One

    Dance Little Sister

    The first 5 songs are all of side one and are solid. It's Only Rock 'n Roll has "Start Me Up" hit quality. Time Waits For No One makes us realize that Mick Taylor should have had at least one or two tracks on every album to stretch out like he does on this one and Can't You Hear Me Knockin' from Sticky Fingers. Missed opportunity. The thing with these songs is you may think of hearing Dance Little Sister on the radio and thought, meh, average song. Until you really listen to everything going on with the guitars. Keith Richards bass chops on If You Can't Rock Me are cool. Till the Next Time is on par in my mind with Wild Horses and Angie, but again, missed opportunity in that Taylor could have been used to play an electric solo or something, similar to Wild Horses. The remaining songs on the record don't do it for me. Luxury is borderline, but leans too far into funk. Fingerprint File is way too far into funk and not that great a song for me. If You Really Want to Be My Friend and Short and Curlies should have been put in the can for later. Between Goats Head Soup and It's Only Rock 'n Roll, I think there's a great album in there.

    Black and Blue had some great songs with Hand of Fate and Crazy Mama. I think Hand of Fate was as good as 70s rockers got, with very few exceptions.

    Not much to say that hasn't been said about Dave's 43. I would never complain for this type of release.

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    you guys are so cool. Love this forum

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    ...It's like buying a book from the bookstore and then realizing the pages are all put together out of order, and there are pages from another book mixed in. And when you go back and say, hey, bookseller, they put the pages of the book in the wrong order, and there are pages from another book mixed in. And he says, don't worry, you can rip them all out and put the book back together in whatever order you want.

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    The other day I ordered a burger with fries. Instead, they brought me fries with a burger. So I complained. But dude, the burger guy said, you can eat them in whatever order you want. Mmfff, I said, eating my fries and burger.

    Received my shipping notice today for the TTB’s “I am the Moon” vinyl set. Because today is the release date. What a concept! You release the record on the release date! Genius! I just want to note that, when you bought the 4-lp set, they promised to provide a digital download of each separate album as each of the four parts of this project was released. And then they actually did! On the actual release dates! And the files actually worked! Amazing! And now they shipped vinyl on the release date. It’s so weird.

    A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. Like the other other day I’m eating a plate of shrimp and listening to Electric on the Eel for the first time in years. And so were you.

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    JGB: Electric on the Eel (discs 1 and 6)
    Derek & the Dominos: Layla
    Bill Evans: The Hilversum Concert
    Christian McBride: At the Village Vanguard
    Stones: El Mocambo

  • Oroboros
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    All is well in the middle of the country and I couldn't agree more with this esteemed group's statements on current and past musical topics.

    Phil and Friends has consistently displayed such exploratory and jamtasic shows which makes them a 'must see.' I recently attended another Wilco concert prior to that show and the inclusion of Jeff Tweedy and Nels Cline in the friends in Chicago reflect excellent choices. Nels has sat in with P & F on multiple occasions and Wilco has covered the Dead on a variety of occasions including Bobby sitting in for Dark Star, Ripple, etc. I regretted that Phil got Covid and couldn't headline with String Cheese Incident's recent Red Rocks shows, but Billy Strings was a welcome replacement and we in the audience had a wonderful time. Still I long to see Phil play again and hope to have another chance soon. The SCI 'dead set' with Billy was a delight and I saw Billy rev up with the Cheese as they took on many of our favorite Dead tunes that evening. And I am quite relieved that Phil has fully recovered from the Covid and is back playing live.

    Besides attending the Wilco and SCI shows, I have also loved recent concerts with the Infamous Stringdusters, Joe Russo's Almost Dead, the Jayhawks, Railroad Earth, Yonder Mountain, Mollie Tuttle, Sierra Hull, and several years ago was quite taken by previously mentioned Larkin Poe (opened for Elvis Costello). Such terrific music touring again and I'm very grateful to be able to make the journey (pun intended).

    However, given this thread on DP 43, to get back on how this Dave's Pick is stellar and echo others sentiments how the primal Dead are such an unmitigated treat. This is a special release and deserving of frequent rotation.

    And should any of you be inspired by the break-neck speed and turn on a dime of the early Grateful Dead, please consider attending a Joe Russo's Almost Dead show. Yes, Oro (my brother from another mother) those two Vail JRAD shows, along with the JRAD show at Red Rocks were stellar. These guys have the stamina and pace of the early Grateful Dead but along with the Dead's entire song catalogue. Simply remarkable jamming, truly exploratory, and much more in the vein of P & F as opposed to the D & C. JRAD is energy personified and each band member is truly infused with amazing grasp of these wonderful songs along with a jazz mentality and interplay.

    To add to the dialogue regarding 'rain stories' from concerts (discussed earlier in this thread), I got one to share. I recall back in 1978 when the Grateful Dead played at the Omaha Civic Auditorium in July. The venue was about half full (4,000?) but everyone was chomping at the bit as we had not seen the Dead in Nebraska since early in the early 70's. I took my Nak 550 into the venue and there was no hassle getting in the deck in this time, but remember this was before the days of 'taper's sections.'

    Out in the hallway, the Hell's Angels wandered about sporting full colors and big grins. They may have been transporting 'party favors' and decided to take in a show, or perhaps road tripping with the band? Although I did not see them at the subsequent Red Rocks shows. Anyway, I headed down to the floor to set up my Nak in front of the sound board. When I was getting everything ready, I saw this guy with a great rig setting up. Luckily this kind stranger (I have since discovered he was famous taper Bob Wagner) let me patch out of the back of his Sony, which was terrific as he had a tall (8 ft?) stand to get will above the crowd noise. We were about 15 to 20 feet in FOB. So Garcia treats us to a blistering Sugaree opener, the kind that drove the crowd wild. His leads mounted into a wave that crests, recedes, regroups, and roars back with such power and delight that adds to the synergistic effect causing our frenzied response as his rolling/soaring guitar work lift and subside within the band.

    Then BIODTL, TLEO, and then Bob took the spotlight with a "Look's Like Rain." About half way through the son, I suddenly noticed something shimmering in the air between the band and me. I thought "what a fantastic light show! Or have I shifted into 5th gear just a little earlier than I scheduled?" I staggered towards that visual disturbance in front of me to investigate. The crowd was dancing madly in the middle of the floor as a waterfall played over them. The waterfall was about 25 feet in circumference. I put my hand into the water...hand out, no rain, hand in, pouring rain.. I jumped into the waterfall drenching us all in the middle of the Civic auditorium. Then stepped out and there was none. I shook my head and then dove back into the deluge and danced through LLR and next came Direworlf and a delightful All Over Now, with Keith and Donna simply killing it. Candyman, Lazy >Supplication and Bobby informed "we are going to take a short break" (ha, it was never a short break!)

    I staggered back to reload a new tape (remember cassettes?) and I looked for some validation of my experience. I asked my friends if I was not in fact 'soaking wet' as I patted my wet t-shirt? And they grinned knowingly and affirmed that , yes, in fact I was 'all wet."

    Then this unique show continued (nice indoor water feature, boys!) with a killer second set, complete with a transportive Estimated>Eyes>Wharf Rat>Truckin'>Iko Iko > Around and Around.

    As I left the auditorium I noticed the water standing on the ground outside, a summer storm? Hey was this just a case of a leaking roof? Or did the Dead actually conjure up the forces of nature as they were so prone to do?

    Next to travel to their/my maiden Red Rocks shows. Would Phil bombs create reverse gravity and make us float up into the air? What do they have up their collective sleeves for us next (ah-oooo, Werewolves of London, ah-ooo)?

    Those were the daze.....

    Zen saying "teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."

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    Jim - You bring up a good point that Phil is well into his 80s, yet is still bringing it with such new creations as Philco. I think he personifies that well worn axiom “Find something you love to do and you’ll never have to work a day in your life.”

    DaveRock - I personally always loved the subtle guitar work on “Fingerprint File” from IORR. Mick Taylor should never have left the Stones, they were a much better band with him (with due respect to Ronnie). Last week, I re-watched their “bootleg” release from the Marquee Club in 1971 - now THAT was THE best Stones lineup.

    Blues For Allah - what an excellent choice. Some really jazzy passages throughout that entire release.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Been saving my whole life for the perfect time for the morphine drip. I mean don't want to start too early...

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No offence intended. What I said doesn't apply in every case by any means.

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No offense taken. I post constantly about how hard it is to communicate without speaking and seeing another person. The fact that we communicate very well when you think about how hard it is to write words with context. I was just meaning we are all reaching that point in our lives where pains and issues develop and that have I always told friends and family that only real thing I want out of the medical community is to manage my pain as I get older. I have done plenty of opioids in my life, thai stick, pills, hospital drips, but fortunately I have never become addicted. But the day is coming, which I have prolonged almost as much as I can, that it becomes gimme gimme.

So no worries at all. I was kind of thinking the Eleven, this is the season of what, now...

I thought I wrote something innocent and honest...gimme

Had to edit 3 times, ooopps

the only thing worse then having no job is having one...this coming Saturday I had planned on going to The Vermillion Cliffs in No AZ to watch the Peregrine Fund do their annual release of captive bred California Condors but I have to work, the fact that I'll be driving close by the release area (Three miles) doesn't help...when this program started in the late 70's there were only 17 birds left, now there are a 117 birds flying free over No AZ & So Utah with many breeding couples and hatchlings in the wild...a little press handout

"The Peregrine Fund and Bureau of Land Management at Vermilion Cliffs National Monument are hosting a celebration on National Public Lands Day, Saturday, September 24, 2022 by releasing captive-bred California Condors at 1:00 p.m. MDT (noon MST, northern-Arizona Condor Time) to take their first flights in the wild. The event will be held in-person at Vermilion Cliffs National Monument for anyone interested in traveling to the area, and it will also be live streamed via The Peregrine Fund’s YouTube Channel."

I love this kinda stuff....

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I love that kind of stuff too and may try to check that out - drive is not quite as far as I thought. In the last few years condors occasionally wander over to our part of red rock country, and couple of folks I know had solid sightings maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Just now came across an article that references a prehistoric pictograph in Canyonlands that appears to be of a condor, which was news to me. Feel your pain as to work getting in the way of all the other stuff.

And yes, getting old can sort of be an ongoing "what now?" challenge. As my Dad's mentor told him when he turned 60 - "Welcome to the foothills." True that.

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Thanks, Gary. Sounds as though you handle things better than I would in your position.
Regarding online communication, one of my friends told me recently that the meaning of what we post is defined by the ones who read it - not the one who wrote it. Probably blindingly obvious - but I had never thought of it quite like that before.
re Hendrix - HF is the man - but if memory of my old bootleg is anything to go by, this 4/26/69 L.A. Forum show that's due for official release soon should set our speakers on fire.

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4/26/69 “due for official release soon” whhaaaa?
Do tell?
Isn’t that part of DP 26?
I know Dave has 4/23 on his “list” but haven’t heard of any new releases?

EDIT: oh, you guys are talking Jimi aren’t ya?

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Read an article about how Denver's KUVO jazz radio station has been taken over by new management that doesn't want songs longer than 6-8 minutes on certain show time slots. Might as well just say none of the giants of jazz allowed. They say they're being more inclusive but their loyal listeners have watched at least 4 of their favorite DJs fired or forced out. Complete BS! Welcome to Kenny G elevator music world. And so it goes.
Cheers

And RGM still has some DP33 vinyl in the early "discounted" batch.
They say the $175 price represents a $100 discount over regular.
That would take the per LP price from around $25 each to almost $40 with shipping + tax! Didn't check if shipping is free at that level but wow, even $37.50/LP is way up there. Get it while it's hot I guess.

Welcome to Fall. Happy Equinox!

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That’s tragic and a major bummer as KUVO was perhaps one of the short list of great dedicated jazz stations left.
Unfortunately I haven’t listened in a couple years since they stopped broadcasting up here.
Used to be my default driving tunes : (
Progress…you can keep it!

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1St Show - I read your piece on the Denver Jazz station regarding the 6-8 minute time limits, and that policy blows. I think you can expect that station to transition to easy listening or contemporary pop very soon. The station here in Toronto - JazzFM 91.1 - started as a college station, and has morphed into a non-profit powerhouse for great jazz, by really top notch knowledge people at the helm and the microphone. (Check them out on the Net). I support them, and aside from the very occasional PBS-like pledge drive, which are quite low key, they are a first rate station, and my go to for radio (very few commercials per federal law one of the bonuses). That sucketh about your station, and I hope there is audience blowback in Denver. A lot of arguments can be perhaps made about the true origins of rock, for example, but Jazz is quintessentially a true American art form, born and bred.

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Miles Davis - That’s What Happened (sublime)
Govt Mule/John Scofield - Sco-Mule (Allmans Meets Miles Davis)
Wilco - Whole Love (worth it for “One Sunday Morning” alone)
Jayhawks - Rainy Day Music (harmony)
Redman/Mehldau/McBride/Blade - Longgone (much better than their first release)

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That article was in Colo. Public Radio news feed and I skimmed it fast but if I read it right KUVO is now in CPRs family of stations. (Edit: Colorado Public Media, a part of Rocky Mountain PBS) There was already a public meeting with a mediator with lots of folks attending but it did not sound like anything was going back in the right direction. Maybe they'll listen but one of the forced out DJs had her hours dropped so low that she lost benefits and was given a time slot she could not fulfill as it conflicted with her time to care for her dying child's medical appointments. Unbelievable. Seems impossible that a public radio entity would allow such management but again, maybe I read it wrong. I mean listener supported radio seems to work around here and KUVO was always such. I'm doing my morning listening right now to their (CPR) classical station which has always been there for me and I do donate to it annually. Maybe you'll get a transmitter now (or computer server) for KUVO Oro, but we'll see if it's worth listening to. Thanks for "listening" guys.
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Edit: Got my shipping notice for 3CD MSG but no tracking yet.

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See PM.
Thanks for the heads up on the Allman show. Sounds great, it’s in my “to do”!
Cheers!

1St Show - That is sad what appears to be happening with the station. If listeners (or likely advertisers) want watered down pop or whatever, ok, but how does great music like Jazz get heard if it doesn’t have a broadcasting outlet? I go to the gym, and they always have that Beyoncé-ish “music” rambling on, and that’s fine if it’s your thing, but no Jazz? It’s like no Dead. Yikes!

Good luck with it 1St Show.

Oro - WTF is with your hometown Bills??? Super Bowl favourites???

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It seems to me that in striving to make something more inclusive, the people doing so often water down the thing in question, so that it loses all the qualities that made it attractive in the first place. My local library is doing all sorts of things to get more people inside - and the more it adapts, the less like a library it becomes.

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I've mentioned this station here before, but we're lucky here in the Twin Cities to have a member-supported Jazz station--you can stream them . . . They have had a show called Bluegrass Saturday Morning for umpteen million years, still run by the same host. Some nights you might hear the local high school jazz band, then the next night--Phish.

Jim and Hendrix, be well!

Baller, laughing about your outsourcing question. :)

Be kind, rewind.

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KUVO can be streamed, (or it used to be?) but I don’t have a way to do so in the car so mostly stopped listening.
I’ll have to try again on the job instead of so much Dead lol. CPR is decent, and as you say part of public radio so hopefully they won’t muck it up too much, but considering how their treating their awesome long tenured DJs, it doesn't sound like it…”nothing lasts”

DAVEROCK, funny you mention libraries. The Other One is a 20 year librarian and she is really having a hard time with what it’s becoming. Part of it is the current management regime (clueless) and part is the trends. Seems it’s just about numbers now: how many visits can we conjure etc. Programs that have nothing to do with literacy are a big trend.
Hardly anyone reads anymore, they mostly come for free daycare, internet and DVDs, which is fine, but they used to really promote literacy, especially for kids and underprivileged etc. There are staff people who actually wonder “why do we need all these books”, and their currently overpaying some “consultant” to see how they can reconfigure branch space/layouts to be used for more programs etc and remove books and reference materials for things like square dancing! I kid you not! Let’s get rid of books and have a social club 🤮
One of my favorite changes: they took out all the beautiful Stickley furniture and replaced with plastic crap! Now they want to remove beautiful stone fireplaces etc, idiots!

MIKE: sshhhhhh, don’t go jinxing things. T town ain’t the only place that’s cursed! Lol.
Oh, I listen to that Toronto station whenever I’m back in the tundra, good sheet Mon!
They used to have a great one in Bu faf BITD (Jazz 88) but not sure it’s there anymore?

DHB, nice to see ya!

Libraries are struggling. I used to spend so much time in the Library. Started when I was pre-teen but getting older. Let's say 7th grade, so age 13 or so. Used to go at that age and find all the old Rolling Stone Magazines, so read about Woodstock or the Beatles, or Jimi. Had not found the Dead yet. Loved it! Also would research stuff on micro-phish, ooops, and would go thru old local papers and stuff like the NY Times or San Fran. stuff.

Not sure if y'all saw that Archive.org is in a law suit for giving digital copies of scanned books. This back and forth has gone on for years. Now, a real law suit by copywriters/publishers. You can search something like internet archive may go out of business. So I am waiting for my cc account to close this month, then plan to donate to them. That would suck tremendously if something happened. May have to survive on donations and stop allowing free check out to people of stuff where authors et. al. don't get their fees. But that is (Bob) weird, because you can go to a library and check out books for free. Have to see where it goes.

Wonder, is their a hard drive large enough to grab the tons of data off of archive? Maybe get Amazon AWS to back up stuff.

Any input would be appreciated...

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Thems fightin words!
Bastardos!
Whose got the pitch forks, I’ll grad the gasoline!
This is too much!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Oro - Not trying to jinx it, I’m all on board, would love to see the Queen City get some love, but you know what that “Great Lakes Triangle” does to sports teams here…
(Seriously though - now that the NHL is due back, keep your eye on the Sabres. Not Cup contenders this year, but they have quietly built a magnificent young team that will be a Force in 3 years or less. I’m Mike, and I personally endorse this message)
Interesting talk on the libraries, agree how they used to be great in their promotion of literacy programs for everyone, but geared to many of the disadvantaged, but like the school boards here, they have been co-opted by what I can only call a Woke & Kooky agenda now, which is a shame.
Also, I kind of remember that Buffalo jazz station - not sure if they are still around, but I know the jazz station I mentioned has a huge listener base in Western New York.
I hope things are good for you!

I still say it’s the water ; )

Hey, what do the Sabres and the Titanic have in common?
They both look good until they hit the ice!

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Dang funny joke!

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....VGK paid a lot for Jack Eichel from the Sabres. Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a first-round pick in 2022, and a conditional second-round draft pick for 2023. Better pay off this upcoming season or I'm going to revolt and throw stuff. October is the BEST sports month. Baseball playoffs. Football is in full swing. Hockey and squeaky shoes is starting. Cool.
Steal Your Faceoff.

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The CD came out yesterday. Mixed by Jeff Norman at Bob Weirs TRI studio from the original 16 track analog master reel to reel recording. store Portmerch NRPS (email) this AM also announced the the LP will be out in the spring

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A rule of thumb in contact sports like football and hockey is to avoid trading for players who have suffered significant injuries to the spinal column, ie - Jack Eichel. Unfortunately, Vegas may learn this the hard way. He is an extremely skilled player, the will is there, and he underwent an evidently novel surgical procedure, but as rule of thumb, the player is never the same. Vegas WAY overpaid for Eichel IMHO, and he is a big chunk of the payroll.
I hope he proves me wrong, I always liked him as a player, but when does someone ever get “better” from any injury to the spine or neck?

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new release from 1997 live at the Fillmore. 2 CD, 4 CD, 3 LP, 6LP. So many choices. Released 11-25. Went to Petty's web site, culled from 20 shows. Looks killer

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Ordered my copy of the 10.9.81 show from Bezos and not only was it six bucks cheaper, with free shipping, but it appears that it will appear on my doorstep today, on the release date, and not, you know, next month or whenever everybody who ordered via Rhino will get theirs. Meanwhile, the t-shirt I ordered from deadnet three weeks ago for my wife's birthday (last week) is also set to arrive today. This is why I believe there are no coincidences.

I love libraries. Don't know what I would've done without 'em. The local library played a BIG role in my musical education, because the periodicals sections carried mags like Rolling Stone and NME, not to mention listening stations where I could hear Monk and Miles for the first time.

I think the difference with these digital archives is that they have a theoretically infinite copies of things. It's one thing, from the copyright holder's point of view, for a library to have one copy of a book, which they purchased, and to loan it out to one person, in one town, at a time. It's another thing to make hundreds or thousands or even millions of copies available to everyone everywhere all at once. I'm not surprised that's a Thing. People who write and publish books (or write and record music) do deserve to get paid, is my opinion, and we're going to have to work how that's going to happen in the digital world if we want to have books and music and whatnot. That lawsuit is growing pains.

Sucks to hear that another jazz station is circling the drain. We've still got KCSM , "the Bay Area's jazz station," and I would highly recommend putting their app on your phone. I listen to 'em all the time, driving around, and there's some great programming to be heard.

OK, last five:

ABB: Fillmore
Tom Petty: You're Gonna Get It
TTB: The Fall
Sturgill Simpson: Metamodern Sounds
GOGD: 1.30.73 from the StL box

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Sports talk and the Dead are not mutually exclusive. Love talking football/hockey/baseball (Go Jays!), love talking the Dead. In fact, quite the contrary. They are a perfect pairing. Going a step further, I find the Dead - like vintage wine - quite complimentary with most things. Camping & the Dead. Get togethers & the Dead. Long drives & the Dead. On and on.
It’s all a matter of finding that “right” vintage. Many on this site enjoy selections from the early Dead growing season, such as 1969; others prefer the 1971 selections (a Gold Standard for vintage). The “less aged” 90s are not as sought after, but with the right pairing, perfect.

Finally, like all wines, the Dead skew to the “Acid”-ic side. Tart, but never overpowering.

Eichel trade - one of the worst NHL trades in recent memory.

I said that last year when it was announced. Read what Mike said about players with injuries. And then go look up Eric Lindros. Yeah, I know most were concussions, but he was injury prone.

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Nice analogy Mike!
That’s how I feel, a Dead season for every occasion lol.
Dead for labor, Dead for chilling out, Dead for FAC, hell there’s some kind Dead for everything, but like a connoisseur, you have to know your vintage!
Go Jays!

Eichel: yep, nice kid, great skills, unfortunately toast at an early age. But hey, it’s a Buffalo thing: Star player always hurt and/or under producing, goes somewhere else and becomes superstar. So who knows?

EDIT: Mike, check your PM

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Frantic search for 10-9-81 for some stealth Euro show.
Guess you meant 3-9-81 MSG.
I don't shop much so I was amazed how many "vendors" are selling this on the Bezos site. And at varying good prices.
Some even listed as used. Wait, what? It's not even at anyone's door yet.
Like a pre-order for used? Mine isn't even tracking yet. Ship notice was on 9-21.
So how does the S.A. River get delivery before us? Just sayin'.
Also wonder how many get to buy at wholesale to resell as these are below retail.
Cheers

I got your message, and know there is a knighthood waiting for you. A sincere thank you!

As for Eichel, I have to agree with Jack - one of the worst trades in recent history. Look up “Nathan Horton” to see a guy whose career got derailed by a bad back, right after Columbus signed him for $37million - he played 36 games only. It’s bad enough your Grandpa blows his back out - but an athlete??? Yikes!

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Announce a year ahead?
A slow departure so you can wean off.
Slow, like their time signatures.
Cheers

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A wonderful writer, who sadly died last Thursday.

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I read "Wolf Hall" when it first came out and was blown away by it...the second book in the trilogy "Bring Up The Bodies" wasn't as enjoyable to me...I've yet to read the third one "The Mirror & The Light", I have it but it's in that 35 or so pile of books I have that I have yet to read...my last book I read was one on Hank Aaron's pursuit of the home run record. right now I'm reading a bio on Hank Williams so I gots my Hillbilly on...

Real Gone Music emailed me to tell me that my DP33 vinyl, which was scheduled to arrive Wednesday, is out for delivery today.
Now that’s customer service. They actually tracked my package for me.

I enjoyed "Wolf Hall" more than the other books in that trilogy, although they are all good. Another great book by Hilary Mantel is the collection of short stories that goes under the name of "The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher". I believe it was written before the trilogy had been completed, to give her some relief from the intensity of writing the three novels.

Concerning books on musicians, I am half way through the Blind Willie McTell biography written by Michael Gray, called "Hand Me My Travelin' Shoes". It serves as a voyage of discovery, as Gray goes on the trail of McTell, to discover more about who he was, and what kind of life he led. It seems very good on historical detail, going back to the mid 19th century and the circumstances and consequences of the Civil War.

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DP33 vinyl has arrived, 4 days earlier than expected.
I’ll be spinning it tonight.

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(see avatar) has passed.
Think I'll do a Birdsong in her honor.
And a toast: Cheers all!

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I am pouring the first half of my evening beverage to the curb in her honor.

So sorry to hear this.

Will play To Lay Me Down later tonight to seal the deal. Sending good wishes your way. It's never fun nor easy to lose a furry family member.

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Saying goodbye to a pet is really hard

(getting verklempt just thinking about it...)

Roxie the cat and Sunny the dog say "paws up for Ms. Phoebe!"

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Condolences on losing Ms Phoebe, 1stShow. Our pets keep us grounded, and are an integral part of our family.
Better days, ahead.

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Can always count on the Dead clan!
Now on with the party.
Phoebe was a party girl.
Cheers

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I said goodbye to my calico last November. When I put her in the carrier for the last time, my tabby immediately ran up to her and after staring at each other for a bit through the grate, they bumped noses to say goodbye. Cats are smart that way. Now its just me and the tabby. When I settle in for a serious GD listening, he often sits in the middle of the floor and I can watch his ears flutter back and forth towards the speakers. I've trained him well!

Sorry to hear about Ms. Phoebe. I'm glad you got that little bit of extra time with her since we last spoke.

Didn't make it to the condor release in person but did live stream it and it was very cool. Need to see some of those big ol' carrion eatin' birds in person.

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The cats bumping noses...

Wow. Great description.

Again, verklempt

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