WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500
“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke
They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.
Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”
IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”
Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
If each of us were Poobah. . .
If your shelf is deep enough for an LP, it's deep enough for this box. I'll probably keep mine off the shelf for a while just so I can mess around with it and read the book while jumping in to the music. Haven't spent much time in the early- to mid-80s, and this looks like a great, well-recorded place to start. Plus it's compact.
If each of us were Poobah, I'm sure we'd always design packaging for releases that 100% of folks would be totally happy with 🤪. . . In the meantime, mucho kudos to Dave Van Patten, David Lemieux, Jeffrey Norman, David Fricke and the gang. Keep 'em coming! Onward.
Who designed this crap? How…
Who designed this crap? How do you put out great boxes like the PNW, then this? What a crock of crap.
Box shape
Most of them have different shapes and sizes. Between the steamer trunk and the 30 Trips box, this is unique and more manageable for space if that's an issue. The digital option only takes up electronic space so there's that, plus higher resolution. The artwork looks fun. Looking forward to this! Comes out a few days before my 55th birthday. Good timing. I still prefer physical media so will dig it.
Edit - this looks similar in dimensions to the Duane Allman Skydog box shaped like a rectangular guitar case. I also have Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here AU20 which is the same dimension of how CD boxes used to come in back in the 1980s.
Box Design
The colors look cool, as does the box design other than the awkward size, and I kinda dig those cyclops dancing bears too. Currently looking at my overflowing shelves and wondering where this will possibly fit, but I'm just gonna go ahead and put that in the "good problem" category, as in, "Oh No! I've got too much Grateful Dead and other music to fit on the shelves!"
Looking forward to giving this a listen and hoping for an arrival near the release date.
I Dig It
The original plan was to only pick up the physical copy if the box could fit nicely into a bookshelf. But scratch that. This looks too much fun to pass on. I'll just have to get creative on how to get it displayed. Regarding the artwork, now that I can see how the whole assemblage works, I think they style is a great fit. Congrats on pushing the boundaries beyond what's usually expected from our GD iconography.
Odd shaped box?
Hey, Frank gave us a round sewer cover!
I can live with a rectangle.
The art is top shelf in my book, love the look.
Anyone biting on Neal and Circles around?
Thanks for the Jimi heads up
Ordered cd/vinyl, also ordered the Neal Casal LP's.
side note,,, got a note from my Steamboat Springs man after hooking him up with Phish shows. His opinion, best Dick's Sporting shows since 92. I think he's been to them all, so I took his word :-)
They're in the queue.
Box Talk
My initial impression (based on nothing)of the box size before it was revealed was that it was going to be more square...can't wait to see/hear this in front of my sky space light. Been digging some Dick's Picks V:13 5/6/81 and Dick's Picks V:6 10/14/1983 as a primer. Hey Dead.net these really should start shipping soon...?
RE: Oh no I've got too much Grateful Dead!
"Hey! That's crazy talk!"
- From The Simpsons
:D
Two Weeks...
... until the "Where's My Box?!" posts begin. Or perhaps this will be the time that our friends at Rhino-Deadnet-Warner Music have arranged for everyone to get their box exactly on the release date. Currently spinning Make the Road by Walking album by the Menahan Street Band, mellow instrumental 21st Century soul. Well worth a listen if you're into that kind of thing. Something cool to listen to while I ponder the end of time and bask in the glow of transitory consciousness.
Box shape
Artwork is cool but who thought this shape was a good idea? They should be fired. Seriously though, please listen to the people who buy these and come up with a uniform shape, like a square or rectangle and not something ridiculous like this new box, which won’t fit anywhere.
Gotta say
that I like the look of the box. A pleasant surprise, not on my radar to lay it out like that. No, it won't fit nicely on a standard shelf but that's not my primary concern. At this point it seems pretty clear that each artist has free range as to concept and design and that's how it should be I think. Each box in its entirety, music and design, is indeed it's own work of art. Not that the design is always "just exactly perfect(ly)" convenient - I find the musically spectacular Listen To The River box a tiny bit awkward to access a particular show. And then there's Wake Up To Find Out. But in the end, no big deal. Great music and very cool artwork. Looking forward to some smokin' early 80s MSG Dead hitting my PO Box soon.
And, no question, I've got too much Dead!!
RELEASE DATE CHANGE?
Did the release date change? It now has Sept 30. I thought it was Sept 23. Mandela Effect maybe???????????
Dicks picks 33 Vinyl Boxset Available Now
Real Gone Records
Primo! 🙏❤️💀🌹
*** LIMITED TO 3 PER CUSTOMER/HOUSEHOLD IF YOU PURCHASE MORE THAN 3 YOU WILL BE REFUNDED.
GRATEFUL DEAD: Dick’s Picks Vol. 33—10/9 & 10/10/76, Oakland Coliseum Stadium, Oakland, CA (Limited, Hand-Numbered, 180-Gram 8-LP Set)
Trying to decide which Grateful Dead concert to reissue on vinyl is kind of like ordering from the menu of a three-star restaurant: no matter what you pick, it’s not just going to be good, it’s also going to be unique and memorable. Faced with such an embarrassment of riches, and trying to remain true to our vision of hitting a different year with each release, we decided to do what any sensible Dead Head would do: go BIG. Hence, our 8-LP release of Dick’s Picks Vol. 33! Fresh from a year-and-a-half touring hiatus, and back to full, two-drummer strength, the Dead opened for The Who as part of Bill Graham’s historic Day on the Green concerts in 1976. This Pick captures both dates in their entirety, and features one of the most monumental medleys (and that’s sayin’ something!) in band history with a 60-minute, 10-song journey through “St. Stephen”/”Not Fade Away”/”St. Stephen”/”Help on the Way”/”Slipknot!”/”Drums”/”Samson and Delilah”/”Slipknot!”/”Franklin’s Tower”/”One More Saturday Night” on the first day. Day two offers excellent takes on two solo Garcia favorites, “Might as Well” and “The Wheel,” that were new to the concert repertoire and a particularly fine “Ramble on Rose” among other highlights. Bill Graham had honored the Dead by selecting them to close the year’s stellar series of Day on the Green concerts, and that—perhaps coupled with the presence of formidable co-headliners The Who—sparked some of the band’s finest performances of the period.
But it’s not just the performances, or the fact that we hadn’t done a 1976 vinyl reissue, that drew us to this concert. This “Betty Board” is one of the cleanest recordings in the whole series, and with a fresh mastering for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering, lacquer cutting by Clint Holley and Dave Polster at Well Made Music, and a pressing on 180-gram black vinyl by our friends at Gotta Groove Records, this is—dare we say it—the best-sounding Dead vinyl release we’ve done. Seriously…the test pressings (which were reviewed by Jeffrey Norman, Dead archivist David Lemieux and Real Gone’s Gordon Anderson) were just fantastic, so present and crisp. We’ve included a 4-page, full-color, LP-sized insert that captures all the extensive graphics that were on the CD release, too. It’s our biggest Grateful Dead album ever…limited to 6000 hand-numbered copies!
Side A
Promised Land
Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
Cassidy
Side B
Tennessee Jed
Looks Like Rain
Side C
They Love Each Other
New Minglewood Blues
Side D
Scarlet Begonias
Lazy Lightning
Supplication
Side E
Sugaree
Side F
St. Stephen
Not Fade Away
St. Stephen
Help On The Way
Side G
Slipknot!
Drums
Samson And Delilah
Slipknot!
Side H
Franklin’s Tower
One More Saturday Night
U.S. Blues
Side I
Might As Well
Mama Tried
Ramble On Rose
Cassidy
Side J
Deal
El Paso
Loser
Promised Land
Side K
Friend Of The Devil
Dancing In The Streets
Side L
Wharf Rat
Dancing In The Streets
Side M
Samson and Delilah
Brown-Eyed Women
Playing In The Band
Side N
Drums
The Wheel
Space
The Other One
Side O
Stella Blue
Playing In The Band
Side P
Sugar Magnolia
Release Date Change
Good catch Allman, I would never have noticed if not for your post. The release date was definitely September 23rd, and that's what it still says in the product description at the top of the comments page, but now when I check the actual product page the release date says September 30th. Things that make you go hmmmm...
Here we go with the release…
Here we go with the release date change again. I would think they might try and stop pissing people off. Not looking too good for the digital guys...lol
Release Date
Yes, let's hope it doesn't get delayed any further.
I wonder why it was pushed back a week?
MUATM: Tivoli '72
At long last, an official film of the dead at tivoli concert hall in copenhagen, april 1972! coming this november to a theater near you. meetupatthemovies_dot_com
Saw a post on twitter from Jesse Jarnow.
DP33 vinyl ordered - looks like other Wembley Empire show is RSD BF entree...
Release Date Push...
Really disappointing not gonna lie. Was hoping to listen to some of the shows on the road to Reno to see Bobby...Still have time and hope but c'mon, for 180$+ you would've hoped they'd have started shipping some of them by now. Hope they get to delivery soon
Tivoli 72 MUATM
I wonder if this means it will be officially released on blu ray/dvd ? It would be good if it was - it's a long way to travel from here to the States just to go to the movies.
Garcia Live Vol. 19 Has Just Been Announced
October 31st, 1992 2-CD Set. Check it out on garciafamilyprovisions dot com
You're welcome!!
The waiting is the hardest part...
I wish there'd be an explanation.
Joni Box
On the 23rd one can pick up the latest Joni Mitchell remastered box, containing new remasters of For the Roses, Court and Spark, Miles of Aisles, and The Hissing of Summer Lawns. It doesn't look like there is anything in the box BUT the remastered studio albums, but there should be a forthcoming live/outtakes box that accompanies the years covered by these albums. Vinyl version, too . . .
here it is - good that there will be a shipping notice!
Thank you for your purchase of the IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ’81, ’82, ’83 (DEAD.NET EXCLUSIVE)[17CD] set.
There was a slight delay in producing your box set. Your order will now ship out on or around 9/27/2022. (You will receive a confirmation email when you order ships.)
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
The Dead.net Team
Slight delay is ok
This Fall is looking pretty good:
MSG Box
DaP44
10-9,10-76 vinyl (yes, have it on CD, but I had 10-9 set 2 on cassette in the 90’s and I love that show).
DaP subscription renewal (take my money please)
JGB CD
JGB vinyl if I’m lucky enough to score a copy. I don’t have that on CD (I think).
I also ordered the Little Feat Box two weeks ago but haven’t received it yet. Hope it comes soon.
Delay
Was hoping it would ship in time to hear before my birthday and now it's shipping on or around it. Oh well.
The Halloween '92 JGB set will be a good one. Caught the Dead a few weeks later at Compton Terrace for the return of Here Comes Sunshine which was cool. The '90 shows were great too and was also there.
Wheel keeps turning
Same old same old… It’ll arrive when it arrives. Not a moment sooner and not a moment later.
I’ve been “buying” from the GD website since the beginning and despite a self imposed boycott of a decade, still am.
Everything has always turned up eventually. There is one exception, an order for Closing of Winterland and GD Movie on DVD with some extra music and stickers to pad my order. GD eventually sent a new shipment that arrived two days before the original. I felt awful. Contacted to say I’d return one lot, to be told to keep it and not to worry.
The boycott came around the time the GD organisation handed over to the “new” keepers of the keys. An order I placed months before release had failed due to an expired card. What galled me was that “they” never got in touch to give me a chance to make it right. Just cancelled the order and thus I missed out on the bonus discs etc. that the preorder included. What really got me was that in reply to my enquiry as to why the thing had been cancelled, I got a very terse email that included the line “It’s not down to us to manage your finances”. That irked. A lot. So that was me done with that for a loooong time. Not until the “Get Shown The Light” box did I break. Amazing how one will cut off their nose to spite…
So, no complaints here. I’d rather have a finished and complete package than something shovelled out of the door to meet an arbitrary deadline.
To finish, I have to “big up” Dr. Rhino and Co. who recently arranged a replacement disc for a Spring 1990 box set that I purchased from a charity shop a few months ago! They had absolutely zero responsibility to do so. Yeah the disc had a manufacturing fault, but man, over ten years old and second hand? Not only did they send a replacement gratis, they did so in a matter of weeks and with no questions asked.
I think it’s safe to say that these folks genuinely intend the best outcome for all, and wouldn’t have some of the issues they have if their goal was simply to monetise it and ship it out the cat flap! This listener believes they give a sh*t and will always try and make things right where they can.
Don’t forget, we only really see the less than positive experiences here. I don’t recall seeing 14,992 positive responses to balance the 8 bad luck tales for instance. And yes, it sucks to be in the wrong end of a SNAFU, but patience usually rewards the wait.
Nuff said.
Cousins
Hey Cousins,
First show (s) were the October 76 Day on the Green shows. Wow! That must have been something. Would love to hear more about it. Did you also see The Who?
Must have been quite the experience. 76 is such an interesting touring year for the Dead, with the return in June and the somewhat of a light schedule in late fall through their unbelievable New Year's Eve show. And the disappearance of so many classics. Was the crowd yelling Truckin, Casey Jones, China Rider?
Anyway, still looking forward to this new Box and #44 next month. I am still thinking a four disc release from 91. And start 2023 with Kezar.
10/9/76 - @Deadvikes
That was the second day of my vacation in the US; the day before, I was reading the San Francisco Chronicle while having breakfast in my hotel downtown SF, and stumbled upon the ad for the show the next day.
On that Saturday, I hopped on a bus to Oakland, scored a ticket from someone in front of the stadium($5, if I recall), and made my way to a seat in the bleachers.
I had no idea who would open the show, until the opening notes of Promised Land; sound was a little low at first, but by Mississippi 1/2 Step, it was loud and clear. That 2nd set jam was magical, and the weather was great, a typical SF Indian summer day. Having managed to miss both the '72 and '74 European tours, I had no expectations as to how they would sound, but oddly enough my first thoughts was that they sounded just like they did on the Skull & Roses LP.
I had seen the Who before(in France), and their show that day was their typical set, with hits and a large portion of Tommy included; Keith Moon was incredible, as expected; a great show for sure, but the highlight of the day for me was the Dead, by far. I still consider this the best played GD show I attended. I moved to the States a year later and caught the December Winterland run.
The box is superb, by the way.
10/9/76
A classic.. if not for 12/31 the best of the year (and maybe 10/9 was better??) 1976 is a very underrated year. Yes, it's uneven and inconsistent. But uneven and inconsistent is my favorite kind of Grateful Dead.
First show? wowwy. Beats my first by a long shot but I'm not complaining one bit.
1976 - underrated
Of all the years in the 1970's, apart from 1979, 1976 is now the one I listen least to. Odd really. I still like "Blues For Allah", and there are clear echoes of 1974, one of my favourite years, in the way they played in 76. When I do a play a show from this year I am always struck it's experimental nature. So maybe I'll spin a few between now and Christmas.
Daverock!
I too find 1976 underrated. Took me a while to get into the 1976 box set, but now I find it churns out consistent excellence. Waiting impatiently for the new box set, but as Doingtheneedful says "It’ll arrive when it arrives. Not a moment sooner and not a moment later."
76 is its own entity
Doesn’t sound like 77, doesn’t sound like 74.
But is has some good stuff.
I haven’t listened to every show from the year, and I’m heavily influenced by what cassette tapes I had in the 90’s (mostly June).
My favs from 76:
6/14
6/29
10/9
The 76 Box is awesome!
6/29 deserves to be Plangentized and Normanized.
Edit:
Got my 10-9,10-76 vinyl tracking number today.
Woo hoo!
Real Gone Music just schooled Rhino.
Hey Rhino, why hasn’t my Little Feat Box that I ordered more than 2 weeks ago shipped yet?
76 as a discreet entity
Maybe because they played so few shows in 1975, and none until June 76, 1976 has a feeling of being more of a stand alone year than many of the others. Plus Mickey Hart, a new sound system and Blues for Allah. They seem to be feeling their way a bit - and by 1977, so it seems to me - and for better or worse...they had found it.
My Ears Were Ringing
...all this '76 talk, I stumbled home at the right time it seems.
Agree on all fronts, '76 was pretty special in that it was another transitional year and they tinkered with new songs, new arrangements and pacing, Mickey back in the ring and Jerry had the Travis Bean guitar with a very distinct - dare I say " '76' Sound"? I've always loved this year in fact it was the first full-year I set out to acquire once I had my opportunity to jump all the way in.
Of course the 76 Box set was a prime jewel for me personally, it containing my all-time favorite show (and of the year) June 11, 1976. But that entire box rules and the sound is so amazing, I am continually pleased to see 1976 getting some love that it deserves. It definitely gets overshadowed by 1977, but, I will always say they never would have achieved that 1977 perfection had they not gone through 1976 first.
Be Well People.
Seventy-Sixtus
Zen And Now
I have to agree with Sixtus on what a major year 1976 was for the Dead. Back after their sabbatical, rested and raring to go on all fronts. Plenty of solo activity, too, with the Godchauxs even playing with one of Jerry’s better sounding bands at this time. I think the June 1976 box (aside from July 1978, the Gold Standard) was one of the nicest releases the Dead had - some of the nicest readings of Franklin’s Tower ever heard among the treasures. A booming year for creativity by the band, all levels, and none of the problems with drugs, health issues, or touring hassles that would come later for them.
My wife usually buys me desk calendars at Christmas as a stocking stuffer, and this year it was one of these Zen quotation a day ones. Some of it is reflective, some of it sounds like teens wrote it after their first bong hit, some of the sources are interesting (ex - athletes, etc), and some of it is real Kwai Chang Caine Grasshopper shit! (Did I just hear a gong??!)
Today’s quote may of be interest to this group. The quote is from one John Perry Barlow, quoting his mother. It reads:
I’d complain about being bored and she’d say, “Anyone who’s bored isn’t paying close enough attention.”
There is that damn gong again….
Snatch the pebble, Grasshopper!
"When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave." - Master Oro
(Sound of the Rhythm Devils’ Gong sounding)
UPS says I have a package coming from Gnarlywood next week
Is it the MSG Box?
Or the Little Feat Box that I bought from Rhino a few weeks ago?
No email notification so far on either Box.
My 10-9,10-76 vinyl is also supposed to arrive next week.
I chose the cheapest shipping option and it’s coming by ground from LA.
Hi folks - I just noticed…
Hi folks - I just noticed that there are three downloads included with the pre-order for the Madison Square Garden box set. I think I only got "Feel Like a Stranger" but not the other two, Althea (Live from Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 3/9/81) and Ramble On Rose (Live from Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 3/9/81) . Did I miss them?
Thanks!
False alarm
Got an email shipping notice for my Little Feat Box.
Should arrive the day after DP33 vinyl.
Now just need that MSG Box shipping notice…
If everything arrives next week I can listen to all of it probably twice before hockey regular season starts.
Let’s Go Red Wings!
I only got the "Feel Like a Stranger" download linque too. . .
. . . but figure I'll just wait for the whole enchilada, hopefully shipping soon. FYI, a couple of days ago I received a shipping notice for MSG 3/9/81 (3CD). . . Can't wait for the BOX.