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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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July 13, 2022 - 12:26pm

#531

dsch

Joined:
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Absolutely agree re. the matrix recordings

Sonically, other than the plangent treatment, the better matrix ones really have it all. While soundboards can sound really good, given the choice, I've tended to prefer the ambience and 'you are there in the audience' quality of the better crowd recordings- especially for 80s shows, a number of which I attended. Yes, the soundboards are much closer to that 'on stage' experience, but since (surprise!) I was never on-stage during a Dead show, I don't have the same deep emotional/nostalgic connection to the soundboard 'ambience.' Plus, and I find this much more with the two-track soundboards (vs multi-track ones), the sense of crucial depth-of-field presence I associate with live music is basically missing. Two-track soundboard recordings can still blow my mind, but excellent multi-track, crowd, and matrix recordings (in that ascending order) still more so. Still, I'm more than grateful for what we get, official releases or not.
July 13, 2022 - 12:07pm

#532

Slow Dog Noodle

Joined:
June 12, 2007

Shut up and take my money

I too am a little disappointed they didn't try for matrix recordings. That Dave's Picks 8 is one of the best sounding shows that have been released imo. I feel like they could do some amazing work with the cassettes and some good auds. But alas. This fills in a nice gap in my collection and I love the '81-'82 stuff i've heard. Excited for this one - something different. I'll wait to judge the artwork until I have the set in hand. I hope all the 80s fans are grateful for this one.

And we get the '69 people were predicting in the form of two shows in the new Dave's Picks. Great day to be a dead fan!
July 13, 2022 - 12:05pm

#533

FiveBranch

Joined:
October 2, 2014

careful with those speakers...

I've been waiting quite a while for more '81, especially these two. March 10 being an absolute craklin' wildfire. While I enjoy 70's GD a little more reined in, not so for the 80s. It's a thicker sound that works more from the overall groove then the individual notes. So less need to keep an eye over the shoulder. In some respects, more akin to 60's primal Dead.

No digital download option?
July 13, 2022 - 11:35am

#534

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

First Thoughts

I didn't jump on this one right away, but eventually conceded. I would have gladly paid the $179 for DaP43 over this box set.

To me the highlights are the 83 St. Stephen out of Space (clearly) and the 81 Deep Elem. But, I figured that this era is underrepresented in my catalog, so why not give it a shot. With that, my collection of C.C. Riders and Day Jobs will now be way overrepresented.

Yea, the artwork is definitely sub-optimal.
July 13, 2022 - 11:33am

#535

dsch

Joined:
July 7, 2015

Wow!

I've always wanted 9/21/82 (first show I ever attended) to be released, but after a while I came to doubt that it would ever happen. The show opens on a spectacular note (a strong Playin'>Crazy Fingers??!!) and the level of energy and improvisation at this show are quite notable for any performance during the Band's last 15 years. Some of the song selections are quite melancholically expressed, and others are exuberantly played. I've always thought that Jerry and the drummers in particular were on fire that night. The encore, US Blues, is one I've come to realize as more likely to follow a strong performance. But- no question there's a number of stellar examples of the repertoire in it. No question I'm getting this one. That being said, while I'll be thrilled to get the official release and improved soundboard recording, there's a great matrix rendition of this show online which fans of it shouldn't miss.
July 13, 2022 - 11:23am

#536

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

Here!

...just take my money already, dammit!

Sixtus
July 13, 2022 - 11:21am

#537

Birchwood

Joined:
May 23, 2014

Artwork

It's about the music, obviously, but when the artwork on the package is not to one's taste—in this case not at all, horrific IMHO—it's an instant turn off. Hope the music inside really sings.
July 13, 2022 - 11:12am

#538

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Looks Cool

I like this format for these boxes being three years from a city or venue. A bit more affordable and packed with a lot of music. Covers a lot of ground from the era. Seems like ages between box set announcements from last year's. Dave's Picks from 69 looks great too. Incentive to subscribe.

I'm a subscriber so it's no biggie, but the page for Dave's Pucks 43 doesn't seem to work. Did it crash?
July 13, 2022 - 11:08am

#539

wissinomingdeadhead

Joined:
December 17, 2011

I...

Was NOT expecting this!!!!! This was a an excellent run of shows.
So, all that is left to be said is
PLAY DEAD!!!!!!
July 13, 2022 - 11:00am

#540

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Daverock

Better go over to DaP43 quick if you want some 1969.
Will sell fast I'd predict.
Very early acoustic set too!
Cheers

John Perry Barlow

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

ALAC Downloads

The Listening Party downloads on the product page are mp3. There's a linque to an ALAC download of Feel Like A Stranger on my order confirmation. I think Fulda is looking for the ALAC downloads of Althea 3/9/81, and Ramble On Rose 3/9/81 that are listed under "Bundle Includes" on the product page. If they're out there, I've missed 'em too. IceCream, is there a separate Download Page? No matter, all will be forgiven once the MSG Box appears.

This Box

Cousins, I believe these are shipping out of California again. At least the Dave's Picks have been. Must be some cheese.

Has anyone told Rhino their front page of their website says this box is available now?

Is it?....lol

New, new release date...

...so it was September 23, then it was going to ship on or around September 27, and now the release date is listed as September 30. So, looks like we're all Charlie Brown and dead net is Lucy promising to hold the football for real this time. Looking forward to getting this, at least a couple of comments on the digital release have suggested that the sound quality is high. Maybe September 30th will be the real release date, but one can only hope.

Waiting ………

Breathe in breathe out breathe in breathe out breathe in breathe out………..still waiting……..all I hear right now is crickets……maybe this will ship tomorrow……breathe in breathe out

Edit: Just got a UPS notification that something is coming from Gnarleywood !!

Edit #2: just got a shipping notification from dead.net

Tracking number created

UPS not yet in possession of the package…..

Coming by mail innovations…..

UPS notified me an hour before Rhino notified me.

It’s on the way

Departed Riverside.

Tracking says Tuesday, revised tracking says this Sunday.

Fingers crossed for Sunday.

Why don't I get these…

Why don't I get these notifications? How did some of you know it would ship on the 27th ?

How did we know the shipping date?

Hi, I received the following email on 16th September.

Hello Colin,
Thank you for your purchase of the IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ’81, ’82, ’83 (DEAD.NET EXCLUSIVE)[17CD] set.
There was a slight delay in producing your box set. Your order will now ship out on or around 9/27/2022. (You will receive a confirmation email when you order ships.)
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
The Dead.net Team

I haven’t had any notification that the item is on its way to me yet, but I’m fairly sure it will turn up eventually.

JoeyMC

You will get an email from Rhino when your shipping label is created
If you never get emails from Rhino then check your junk email box.

I have an account with UPS. Anytime that a shipping label is created for my address UPS notifies me that something is being shipped to me.
UPS notified me that something was coming from Gnarlywood and hour before Rhino notified me that a tracking number had been created.

I upgraded…..

To UPS ground. As a result, mine hasn’t started moving yet……..Ugh I should’ve left well enough alone

Thank You.

Yeah, nothing for me. I didn't get one for Dave's 43 either.
Man, I had no idea one could upgrade the shipping...I'm just all together lost over here.
Ha.

Where's the BEEF?!?

...I always loved that commercial as a kid.

Carry On, please.
Sixtus

Missing Boxset

Ups has no knowledge of this, dead.net doesn’t respond to inquiries. I’m at a loss
I think I’m done ordering from here, it’s just too stressful

Shipping stress blues....

....i just wrote that little ditty today!
No emails on my end.

Why bother?

Hasn't this box just been released? I don't get why people are bothered about tracking or getting emails to tell them something is on the way. If something hasn't turned up a few weeks ( depending on where you live) after it's release date, that's a different matter. But otherwise it may just be best to forget about it and trust it will arrive when it arrives. And if it doesn't, take appropriate steps. I've never been let down yet in the long run.

Yeah this production and…

Yeah this production and shipping fiasco is the gift that keeps on giving. Received an email today that it will arrive October 6th!! Kind of pisses me off that music I paid good money for to get when released is being played on Sirius on Saturday while I wait for my order to get shipped. Bad show Dave.

Help on the Way

FYI, received shipping notice, tracking says arrival on Saturday.
I’ll believe it when it’s in my grubby little hands but at least it’s in motion…

UPS notification

I got an UPS notification (I signed up a few years ago) to get ready for a package (from GNARLYWOOD). No notice from DEAD.NET but the day ain't over yet. Maybe they are sending a mass email later today. At least it looks like straight UPS and not UPS Mail Innovations.

Shipping confirmation!

Yes!

I got it!

A shipping confirmation!

Unfortunately, it was a shipping confirmation for DaP 41 that failed to arrive at its destination earlier...

Shipping Label

Shipping Label created, which of course is not a shipping notification.
Product indicated UPS Surepost, which UPS describes as:

UPS SurePost® is an economy service for your non-urgent, business to consumer needs of low value. UPS makes the shipment pick-up, and the U.S. Postal Service® (USPS®) makes the final delivery, seven days a week. Sunday delivery is only in select areas.

Good to see they think the $200 plus I spent with shipping and tax is low value.
Surepost is the worst, takes at least a week.

Looking forward to it by next weekend.

Roland with the jokes!!!....

....I love it!
You're not serious I hope. 😆
BTW, for my friends here that have been paying attention to my family stories I tend to tell here, the granddaughter that I walked down the aisle is pregnant.
Guess a New Orleans honeymoon has some voodoo.
Grate-grandpa again! 🥳
If it's a boy, she said his middle name will be Vincent. But, girls run rampant on my wife's side. We shall see.

I will believe it when I see it...

Yesterday I got a shipping confirmation mail from the GD Store saying the box set was on its way. Using the tracking number I saw that UPS had created the label. Today I got an SMS from UPS saying that it will be delivered tomorrow. In the Netherlands. No alternative USPS tracking number from UPS either. Tracking showed that it is on its way. I would be truly amazed if it gets delivered tomorrow but I can only wait and see.

SIMONROB

Looking at the tracking for mine I notice it is using UPS Worldwide Saver as a delivery method. This apparently guarantees (?) second day delivery to most places in the world, so since UPS has your item you may well see it tomorrow. This expedited delivery might explain the high postal charges. Of course, my order is at the ‘label created’ stage and has yet to reach UPS so it will take a little longer!

Shipping notice received....

....delivery tomorrow??
I'll believe it when I see it.

2nd day international delivery

For $70 you deserve 2nd day, if not overnight.

It's guess and wait time

I'm not sure what's worse -- ordering on the first day of availability and still getting a delayed shipment email. Or finding out my $15 shipping fee only pays for UPS Mail Innovations, quite possibly the worst shipping service on earth. Maybe I'll receive my box set before Christmas. But I can promise you my tracking number will still only say "Label created" on the day it arrives. If it arrives.

All this complaining

is such a drag. Instead of stories from people who were there or discussion about a box set release from the early 80s!, or discussion about the new songs they're breaking out we get the longest ever version of Gripes about International Shipping Rates -> Space -> I Didn't get the E-Mail, with an encore of Waa I'm Getting it too Late-> U(P)S Blues.

Hey, did anybody get the new MMW box set? No - because they don't release anything. How about that killer '95 Phish run? Nope only digital. Here's to Dave and Company for continuing to release shows in analogue format.

Ok, better get back to the griping now.

Slow Dog

You mean you're not interested when each individual poster gets their box delivered?

Shipping

I just want to know if Cousins received his Cheese from Wisconsin?

re: Cheese

I hope it was cheese curds.
Cheese curds are amazing.
Especially Wisconsin cheese curds.

Be well People!
Sixtus

@ Vguy

Unfortunately, I am not joking. I still have not received DaP 41. But apparently it's on its way! Again!

And actually I never got DaP 39. I had a friend buy it for me in the secondary market, from Italy. Set me back $65. Extremely frustrating when you have a subscription since DaP 1, I can tell you.

One tip: do not ever move!

I actually foresaw this when I moved from a village in the Netherlands to Bonaire (in the Caribbean), so I changed my adress IN the Nerherlands to my mothers' adress in The Hage, a rather major city in the Netherlands. Having everything sent to Bonaire would be asking too much.

And I changed the adress not during the subscription year, but starting with the new year 2020. 37, 38, 40, 42 and (apparently) 43 arrived without any trouble. 39 and 41 never arrived, and 41 is now sent again.

But hey, it's the music that counts:)

DeadSteinn

I saw Rammstein at the LA Coliseum last Friday. What a trip... I don't ever listen to them but some friends are big fans and gave me a ticket. Helped that there was a black Chevy Camaro with 12k miles on it in the queue at Hertz when I grabbed a car.

Turns out Camaros are great for the driver and not so much for anyone who has older friends trying to get in and out.

Had a great, drunken dinner at the Rainbow Bar n' Grill and many fantastic moments of Southern California yet again. Had not been out there rocking and rolling for 8 years! Since seeing Motley Crue on their first "farewell" tour at the Hollywood Bowl.

This box set will arrive when it arrives, in a few days I guess. When it does I'll feel a little bit guilty for the indulgence (not sure why), immediately burn it into iTunes and put the whole thing on shuffle.

Be well everyone. We who are not in Florida, Russia or Ukraine are blessed.

\m/

Rammstein shows look incredible!....

....jealous.
Ledded shaking the dust off.
There's this band called The Warning that has gotten my attention.
Three sisters from Mexico.
Talented. Especially the drummer.
Playing here 10.7. Tix $36 after fees.

The End is Near!

Estimated delivery: 10/6 by 7:00 PM. If that happens, it'll be a great night. First period on Thursday will be rough, though.

It wasn't cheese anyway...

...but Head Cheese; regardless it didn't arrive, it was my wife's new hat in that package. Arrived in great shape, with a low serial number. Thanks for the support!

Estimated delivery....

....September 30th by 7pm.
We shall see.

3/9/81...my initial take

Good Lord this China > Rider is where it's at yo!

Jamtastic, peppy, elongated, bouncing right along.
Great show so far.

Sixtus

The Box Has Arrived

and it's as big as a safe deposit box. Shelf rearranging will be necessary.

Box arrival....

....same. Arrived during my lunch hour. Will open tonight.

Shipping

I received a shipping notice with tracking on September 27th (my 55th b-day incidentally) and said estimated arrival is Sunday October 2nd. So far the tracking hasn't changed from "label created" status as of yet 3 days later. Sunday is 2 days away. I have doubts it'll arrive by then. It still has to get stuck in Illinois for another 3 days, so maybe by Sunday Oct 9th realistically.

Cover artwork - if anyone…

Cover artwork - if anyone can scan or extract each individual show artwork and post them here. That would be awesome and much appreciated!

Expected date of receipt

I ordered this gem last night and received a notice stating that I should have it on Oct. 5, 2022!

YES!

Myself and Big Brownie are west coasters....

....guessing this did ship from Cali. None of my notifications said where it was coming from.

I just received this box set…

I just received this box set. Can't wait to start playing it. But for the life of me, I can't find the number of the box set. Does anybody know the location of the individual box number? I'd appreciate anyone with better eyes than mine telling me where it's at. Thanks.

Box Set Number

The box set number is printed on the right-side outer edge of the packaging, just under the magnetic flap. Box #06897 just landed in Irvine, CA :)

Thank you so very much. I…

Thank you so very much. I found it. Of course that was the only place I didn't look. I searched everywhere on the box, on the cds and in the book multiple times ... but not there. Thanks again.

Space/Rush

I have been going back and forth on purchasing this box set. It is not a question of getting it but more so regrading if I want the Cds or download. I am seriously running out of space. In my humble abode , our smallest bedroom is my chill out space. It is multi-purpose as it houses my computer, all of my CDS, and my Star Wars, Lego and Gi Joe collections. I think this release will be great, but I think I may go with the download because I am bursting at the seems. However I am particular about owning the CDs that I am not sure if I will be able to convince myself to go with the download. Regardless I am looking forward to everyone's reviews of these shows while I am making my decision.

On a different topic, I recently had weird awakening where I became, for a lack of a better word, obsessed with power trios. Cream is up there for me, but I also revisited Rush. I am familiar with their music, but I never really "listened" to it until recently. I have quickly become amazed by Rush's playing and I am taking a deep dive into their surprisingly large live catalogue. I would love to hear opinions from the Jedi Council who frequent these comments on this band. Also I would live to know if anyone caught one their live shows and what that was like.

Paging Keithfan2112....

....I only saw Rush once during their Moving Pictures tour, but that cat has seen them multiple times (I think).
Oh. And they were incredible 🍻

9/30/22, Just received my In…

9/30/22, Just received my In and Out of the Garden purchase. I always check all the discs on my computer, and this is what I found: Discs 4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 all are missing CD info as follows, Artist, Album, Genre, Track #, and disc#. You insert disc expecting to have the info show up, and there’s nothing. Disappointed now that I have this set, that I have to ask for a return, hoping the replacement isn’t messed up too.

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