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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 29, 2020 - 7:09am

#6671

Oroborous

Joined:
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Otis

31, bring it!
Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!
June 29, 2020 - 6:12am

#6672

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Oroborous, DeadVikes, etc.

Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6673

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6674

Vguy72

Joined:
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6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6675

wilfredtjones

Joined:
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Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6676

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6677

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6678

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6679

bob t

Joined:
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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6680

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
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Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Aaa? Forgot?

Not the one from somebodies collection, I think it was the first one?
Yes it’s a ruff, but kinda fun in a way, and not many weird yelling in inappropriate spots etc, lot’s of clapping, but hey their mostly in time! Perhaps not the spaceship of some of its neighbors, but it is fall 72 non the less.
I bet the whole dealy made an impression on young HFs juvenile brain lol. Kudos to you senior freak!

9/16/72: actually hit that one via GOGD awhile back, I marked that I liked it…maybe I’ll hit 9/15 tomorrow as I’ve not yet.

5/5/90: aaa no offense to anyone, but I thought they weren’t prepared this night?
Just Talking out me arse: but after the sick spring tour they were off for a month and might not have practiced etc, I think some of these Cali gigs were considered practice some times.
It has moments, but for a 1990 show I was surprised how inconsistent they were.
After a couple nice soundcheck songs (openers), they had me stoked for a hot H/S/F, and they even sound itching before hand, then…Phil is not on it lol, and Jer steps off the gas and just lays down some chords until they can at least entrain. Perhaps an ambitious choice considering? But hey, I wasn’t there, that’s just what it sounds like…
By Queen Jane the drugs seemed to have settled ; ) and their more dialed in. Rest of the set is ok, but again, I’m comparing to early/mid 90 status quo, so wouldn’t say it was great.
Loved the spacey Playin, Crazy Fingers, but Uncle Js has another big Wiff, and yeah, I’m glad I heard the show, but more so the next night!

5/6/90: this to me, is more what you expect from early 90!
They shook the previous nights cobwebs off, and they sustain that consistent peaceful easy feeling that you’d expect from 90. Glad I finally hit these. I’ve thought the 6th or perhaps 6/24 would make good possible BTL 50th shows since I believe they and Brent’s last on 7/23 are the only shows that sport 4 tunes off the album. From what I recall of 7/23, I wouldn’t think that’d be the one? I know Autzen on the 24 gets love, and it has a good set list, so who knows? (I haven’t heard that one)
Dave will probably pick something from 1988 with 2 album tunes on it lol.
But this Dominguez Hills show on the sixth might work too?

Going to have to hit those Oree gone shows sooner than later…

Sorry DV, I’m running late: supposed to be off and relaxing, but the feed line to the pull out Kitchen facet sprung a leak. Luckily we were here so not too much damage in the finished basement, or gulp, the theatre gear below!
What a racket, have spent good part of 2 days trying to replace a $20 dollar part instead of a new facet for probably hundreds of denaros! But they list no model numbers or any identifiable info, and of course you need the info, because of course there’s no universal type parts, FFS! Oh well, time to prep:
Go Bills!
Go VIKS!

Vguy, yer Fish are starting to scare me! Should be a good one next week.

Oroborous/6/3/76

Another solid night for the Bills. Yes, I can totally see why we didn't want Diggs around anymore?

Yes, a little rough.

Been thinking about 76 and want to offer 6/3/76, the official return of the Dead. Paramount Theatre Portland OR.

Embryonic 1976

DVikes, Going for a strong start right out of the gate with their first official show after their hiatus... I'm up, have two cups of strong black coffee running through my veins. Nothing but random tasks (not to be confused with odd jobs) scheduled all day which means I can most certainly fit this one in.

76 trombones

Not sure I’ll get tunes today?
That’s ok, I’ve hit those shows somewhat recently.
First night was ok, but like the Dominguez shows perhaps a little Rusty, but by the second night the bugs are gone!
We’ll see how my memory is?
I’ll prolly get a little on in the background…

Sorry bout dem VIKS. Did they play that bad or are the Eagles that good?
I thought the Eagles were in decline, but I don’t know much about NFC?

The Buffalo Bills....

....don't worry. They're going to suffer their first loss this Sunday when they visit Miami. You heard it here first. 🐬

🫣

You maybe right!
Fish are looking strong and their a bit behind the rivalry after last few years, so probably will be pumped to bring it.
Ballers!
Should be a good game!
Whatevs happens, just hope it’s a clean game with no weirdness or the refs mucking it up…

Buffalo

I used to live in Buffalo. There isn’t a city in this country that is more deserving of a championship than the city of Buffalo. Such great people in that city. I really hope that this is the year.

Edit: not to offend any other city. It’s just that Buffalo has never won a title in any sport. Minnesota at leasrt won with the Twins and Cincy had the Reds in the 70’s just to name a couple

ADEDHED68

Wait now, don’t forget the Bandits lacrosse team won a few championships ; )
But yeah, we’re due lol

AFL 1960’s

Oroborous, I’m also forgetting that the Bills did win a couple of AFL championships in the mid 60’s, so to rephrase, Buffalo hasn’t won anything in the “modern era” of sports………except for lacrosse of course Ha!

9/3/76

I've hit this before, but it's been a while (years?). Honestly, I don't think they were rusty as expected, in fact they sounded rather rehearsed. A lyric flub in Wharf Rat, some timing misques, nothing big really.

What I liked was the ethereal swank they settled into, what a groove. And how about JG's tone in the opening jam in Dancin' in the Streets? Opening with a strong, partially audience Might as Well seems appropriate. Love the early Help>Slipknot!>Franklins too. I think we got more in 76 than any other year (or it at least seems that way).

Nice show, a rut remover if ever I have heard one. Thanks DV.

6/3/76

Love the laid back groove of this show as well Jim. First time for me, and I definitely will come back. Sound quality on this 2017 transfer from Miller recorded by Betty is really good. 4 1/2 dancing bears.
Might as well gets it going, good Row Jimmy, great TMNS, really solid Scarlet, Dancing to close the first set.
Crazy Fingers, Wharf Rat into Let it Grow, is this the first version without the WRS? Great stuff. I like this It Must Have Been The Roses. Help Slip Franklins, fantastic. Really nice extended Slipnot here. OMSN and close with the Wheel!
Could be a release at some point?
They played some really good shows at the Paramount in Portland.

What is next?

6/3&4/76

Yep, Rusty’s not right. Super mellow, yes.
The third wasn’t quite how I remembered, but I still think you can hear subtle differences the next night as they’re past all the comeback/opening energy etc, and back in the saddle!
Glad I rehashed them, they were a nice enjoyable change, and the space I was in yesterday I appreciated the mellow.
Still can’t believe how mellow the crowd was. Like Phil say something about glad to be back, and there’s almost no crowd. If that had been NY, the place would have gone nuts!
Perhaps that’s why they choose mellow sorta out of the way Portland: to use as warm up shows without as much distraction/media etc? Rehearsal fir the big east coast tour that probably was a media circus, 76 style anyway.
Whatevs, 2 interesting but perhaps slightly different kind of shows, from a different kind of year.
Some old polished chestnuts and some cool new songs that unfortunately didn’t stick around much.
If only they’d thrown in the occasional DS in 76. Can you imagine a DS via that mellow groove…

Since it’s quiet?

And I need work fuel, imma gonna go with more box prep ala 3/7/81 and 9/17/82.
I figure I’ll hit a couple more of these shows this week, then since the release day is supposedly the 27th (which means at least another week before it’s probably in my grubby little hands), next week we fully cleanse!
Looking at more fall 79, more 76 and 77, some 73 or 74, maybe something later, and most def some primal. Nothing cleanse better than some full on primal!
After all the Dicks talk elsewhere, perhaps we can fire up one of those awesome fall 72 DPs on the WE to enjoy under proper conditions? Or,…? Chever way your pleasure tends!

Just Getting Back

Box prep sounds good to me. Enjoying all this.

Fun stuff

Unusual sets, early versions, good energy. Been really digging this region, looking forward to the box!
Both worth a listen.

Picks

3/7/81 OB?

I will get it going tomorrow.

Choo-choo

Like a north bound train.

Yep, you’ll like that one DV, the 82 was good too.

Today I’m powering my labor with 9/13/83 and 6/30/87.
Somehow I’ve not listened to Manor Downs, and since we were digging on some 87 back aways, I thought we’d dip into the 87 summer tour again.

Tomorrow was thinking to end box prep we’d go 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.
Maybe the Frost 82 this WE?

Next week full cleanse, anything but 81-83 lol.

because setlist junkie

Cole Field House - March 7, 1981
"Uncle John" tease after "Saint"

setlist

Alabama Getaway
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dire Wolf
Me and My Uncle
Big River
Candyman
C.C. Rider
Jack-a-Roe
Passenger
Bird Song
Looks Like Rain
Deal

Iko Iko
Lost Sailor
Saint of Circumstance
drums
Truckin'
Black Peter
Around and Around
Johnny B. Goode

One More Saturday Night

Madison Square Garden - March 9, 1981
"Wheel" tease before "Good Lovin

setlist

Feel Like a Stranger
Althea
C.C. Rider
Ramble on Rose
El Paso
Deep Elem Blues
Beat it on Down the Line
Bird Song
New Minglewood Blues

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Samson and Delilah
Ship of Fools
Estimated Prophet
Uncle John's Band
drums
The Other One
Stella Blue
Good Lovin'

U.S. Blues

source: dead.net

P.S. I am not a robot

Onward, through the fog

Ok, continuing with box prep 2022 with 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.

Yep, that 3/7/81 was another one, really getting stoked for this box!
And I forgot how rippin 6/30/87 from Canadaland was: musta been somethin I ate ; )
That and the 84 show kinda blur together. I remember we dropped exactly at the border designation point half way across the peace bridge (so if pulled at customs we’d have nothing on us, only in us lol) so by the time we arrived things were getting interesting. You entered through a amusement park which to me looked like we were in a real life Flintstones episode! I remember during the second set being pretty high and needed to walk it off a bit, so went up to the top of the lawn during the killer S/F. I can remember holding on to the iron fence and watching a sick sunset during a ragging Fire on the Mountain, but not much else? If you dig summer 87 you’ll want to check this one out!
That second set is ferocious.

Hey now WTJ, welcome back. How was the road trip in that new buggy?

Ok, big anniversary looming: Frost 10/9 and 10/10/82.
I was thinking of doing them this WE since by Rocktober perhaps we’ll hopefully be in full box immersion and/or be needing to move on etc. But would like to hear some thoughts on that?
So, do we hit the Frost before the box, or wait until, Rocktober sometime???

82 Frost

Sounds like a plan OB. I also want to check out that June 87 show. Looks like there is a relatively new Miller out there.

Gave 3/7/81 a go yesterday and wasn't really in the mood for an audience so went with 5/23/72.

Hopefully we will all have the new box next weekend, but I am not counting on it.

Enjoy yourselves out there.

sources

Since so many great sources and newer ones always coming in, input on sources for the POT day choice is always appreciated.

Trip with dad in the new ride was bittersweet OB (I'll shoot you a line in a bit). Thanks for asking and Keep the Grate Picks Coming All. :-) :-) :-)

P.S. -edit- From the Seamons: Rule 1 'If you're going to be boogieing, be careful about the level you're at.' Oh, and do stay out of the trees. :-P

Just got up (slacker)

Dug yesterday, stoked for Frost today.
More later…

gonna suggest 5/21/92 Cal Expo

Pharoah Sanders opened and his set was uploaded to the utoobs yesterday 9/24 following his passing. it's a pre-FM source, just listened, and it sounds beautiful. Pearson/Healy Miller master of the Dead's sets is available and sounds way good also as I dip my toe into that. maybe do the two-fer. just saying.

FULL CLEANSE!

Home, so want somthin completely different to hear on actual stereo!
Was thinking 9/27/72 or DP 11?

Have enjoyed the pre box dive, but need to cleanse hard this week so if/when the box shows were ready!

I’ll revisit the last couple days shows right after this commercial break!

Ok, where we’re we?
Frost. 10/9/82, somehow I’d never heard this one but sure glad I finally did.
Definitely a fine show and good recording (Miller though the other SB I tried was just as good)
But as is often the case with a first show after a break, it’s off in spots and is sorta the warm up show.
JG especially seems to be having some troubles, which going by Bobs teasing him about his rig not working (guessing that’s because Bobs gear always seemed to have issues so I bet the band/crew gave him endless crap).
So, first day back to work and your shit don’t work etc. But the occasional snafus certainly do not mean this is not a top show, I just don’t feel it’s consistent enough for release. Big Powerful back side and all, but the next night is a different story!
10/10/82: by the next night all cylinders are firing, Bob especially is having a big night! Best LL Rain? Well, perhaps not the GOAT but…! They come out rocking and rarely let up. This, and excerpts from the 9th would make a nice DaP!
The Miller was good, but I’m not sure about the mix? It seems to be mixed more for the venue as the instruments are often back in the mix comparatively. I should relisten with a good aud as I bet the live sound was fantastic!
Perhaps with the full “treatment”, and/or if there’s another mix somewhere, this one could be spectacular?

Ok, BC, perhaps I’ll try the 5/21 twofer mañana at work, but I needed something different and really needed a official release of something as I’ve been binge streaming on crappy gear or even just my iPad so my ears need it!

So that’s we’re I’m at, hope DV (and you too) are fully digging the Frost shows. If you’ve never, you must!
Onward!

Go Viks!

Frost Shows

Still working my way through the Frost shows and really like 10/9/82 so far. Love these early versions of West LA Fadeaway. Fun on the Road Again, Big River, Dupree's, yes! Recording is really good. Nice groove to the show.

Way behind but Dick's 11 sounds good as well as the 92 show from Bluecrow.

What youth deemed crystal, age finds out was dew………

Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Stanley Theater, September 27, 1972

As the man said, ”Morning Dew to open the first set???” And a He’s Gone to open the second set. And a 30 minute Dark Star, into Cumberland no less. And a rare Attics of My Life. It’ll all dew quite nicely…………

Dick’s Picks 11, released June 9, 1998. Is this one that fell through the cracks? Dust it off, it’s dew for a revisit………………

OK yes there’s a patch, but it’ll dew just fine………………..

The dew of compassion is a tear…..

Rock on!!

Doc
But see, Orion sheds unwholesome dews;
Arise, the pines a noxious shade diffuse;
Sharp Boreas blows, and nature feels decay,
Time conquers all, and we must time obey…..

9-27-72

I'm down with this one. Grate pick Doc, this is just a wonderful show and a really good recording. I have a little smiley face beside this Dark Star, that means that it's mighty fine. Thanks for reminding me how far out this show is.

A terrific 1972 show to revisit

Hey Doc, check your pm for requested info on 1971.

"It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, its what I know for sure that ain't so."
Samuel Clements

9-27-72

Monumental show! Really got your money's worth with that huge set list. Sound was VERY good and I had it cranked for Phil's descending bombs in that opening Dew. Loved Paul Grushkin's notes in the liner. Good chronologic description of how it feels as the rush commences. Classic DS>Cumberland and a high energy finish to top it all off.
Glad I got to dust this one off. So much just sitting there waiting. I'm sure I have some Dave's I've only heard once or twice. So much GD, so little time.
Cheers

Dicks #11

Good idea OB. It has been a while. Such a good pick Doc also gave it the nod.

24 years later and it is still good. I mean, any show that starts off with a Morning Dew, Bird Song, Brokedown Palace, China Rider Playing all in the first set. Yes and of course that second set Dark Star, Cumberland, Attics? Come on. Easy to see why Dick wanted this one out. What a fun ride.

No box shipping notice yet for me. I did buy my tickets for MUATM for November 1.
2-3 weeks out for the #44 announcement.

Well

It's got a Cumberland.. Honestly, I had not listened to this in a long time also. In the abundance of riches.. so many good shows have been released. I should listen to some of them more.

Ian

Wow.

May the four winds spare your safely home.

Did we do 8/3/82 Starlight Theatre KC? Was looking for a hot, not 1972 Cumberland Blues??

Jim 8/3/82

Hey Jim, sorry for the delay.

I don't think we ever hit 8/3/82, so let's do it. I think OB is keeping the list so I could be wrong.

It doesn't look like we will have the new box this weekend, so let's keep it rolling.

8/3/82

I think I hit that this summer when I was bingeing out. Not at home so can’t check my DB, but the set list looks familiar, especially that Shakedown Samson, which spoiler alert the transition is nothing special.
But hey don’t let my overindulgence hold ya back. Fire it up!
I just went too far with the early eighties binge so staying away until box binge.

Enjoyed DP 11 Monday at home in big speakers etc, always loved that whole DS>Cumberland>Attics thread, and a decent Dew opener, yep, definitely a big Dick!

I did hit 5/21/92 yesterday. Ok for 92, perhaps a bit anemic early on but the second set gets going and hey, always enjoy a nice SOTM.
In general, I’m cutting back on Dead a little as I’m kinda burnt lol.
But supposedly the box arrives Saturday by 7:00? Good news is it’s moved rapidly and more efficiently than usual (no criss crossing the state passing within 1.5 miles of our house) bad news is they went with this lane ass sure post garbage so now I have to stress out worrying how they labeled it and if then the PO will except it or send it back, uuugggghhhhhh, why, WHY?? Every other box we’ve gotten has been straight UPS no BS USPS chaser!
It’s bad enough we have to worry about weather Dave’s makes, at least the box’s usually come right to the house!
Sucks not getting mail at home but, Oh well, all good things in all good time!
ONWARD!

Oh, ps Hey Bluecrow, couldn’t find a Pharaoh Sanders on archive?
Where ya find that again?

pharoah sanders cal expo

Oro - search "pharoah sanders 5/21/92 utoob" on the goggles and it should be top result video or near top. It is an audio only source however. It sounds beautiful.

as for the Dead's sets - yeah, it's '92. I thought set I was pretty good sorta sparked by the Pharoah Sanders set. Only made it through the Scarlet > Fire in Set II so far then got distracted. I actually thought energy dropped a little for that but not bad for that year. I thought the source ultramatrix sounded really really fine.

DiP 36 was awesome. Right now listening to Baltimore release from Fall' 72 (DiP 23).

I know some of us have have hit 8/3/82 at at least 2 different times. Not sure if it was ever an "official" POTDWD. Great show from a great tour. Excellent Set I including a Big Railroad and a Might as Well. Then that Shakedown opener Set II plus a To Lay Me Down and a Let it Grow before drumz!! Casey Jones encore says a lot.

No shipping notice yet on box.

Short Term Memory

Well, our short term memory facilities aren't what they should be, but we can still hold a grudge......
Name the show.

uhoh

Dark DV with laser eyes

Can't remember the show but that sounds like Bob.

Turns out I did get a shipping email on the 28th. Missed it in the flood of junk mail. Box is in Salt Lick as of last night. Hopefully it gets here before I have to skip town for some work. Mail innovations works just fine for me when its shipped out of Cali. From Kentucky? Now that sorta sucked. Having said that the FedEx version is far far worse for those of us who depend on their SLC hub. A package can sit there for weeks before FedEx manages to get it to USPS.

Thanks BC

I know where to look now.

DV, shit, I remember that, I had that tape, but can’t recall the show? Definitely Bob lol.

Bob

Yes, it is definitely Bob.

5/13/77 and a great show.

Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet……

Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Springfield Civic Center, October 2 1972

The last show of the wonderful 1972 Fall East coast tour. Worth waiting for? Absolutely!!

Fourteen song first set, twelve song second set (with much jamming and a Dew), the rare Tomorrow Is Forever, and a two song encore. Lacking only a Star, this is about all one could expect from the Dead at this moment of time. In other words, very fine and thank you very much!!

AND there’s a very decent Miller remaster out there. Perhaps an official release one day? We can only hope!!!!

Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish……..

Rock on!!

Doc
Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself……

FD11

Do you get all this wise advice from books or come up with yourself? :-)

Thanks for the grate picks as always...maybe hit us with an 80's 90's again sometime...:-) :-) :-)

Make it a grateful day all...

Bob was grumpy in the Auditorium?

I didn't remember that DV. I was thinking maybe a Fillmore East show. Been a long while since i've checked 5/13 out. The first set is a doozy - got the first of those amazing Spring '77 Jack-a-Roes plus that Scarlet > Fire. Last Dead show in the Auditorium, which was a pretty proper place, I think they had Andy Frain ushers working there. After that it was the Uptown which was a bit more tolerant of the scene. Only show I saw at the Auditorium was Garcia and Kahn summer '82.

That Springfield 10/2/72 show is new to me and sounds like a must do.

more 5/13/77

good god that OtherOne is something else

and that StellaBlue

5/13/77, Bluecrow

Word is circulating backstage and pretty soon we will have a full band on stage.Calling Doctor Shot. Dr. Beechwood you are needed on stage immediately. Billy and Mickey played some sort of Prank and the full band wasn't on stage ready to go for TMNS. Funny stuff, of course I wasn't there but they always seemed to have a good time out there.
In a sea of great shows, 5/13/77 and 5/12/77 have been somewhat neglected by me. They shouldn't be. Both are great. There is something about these Peggy Os and Terrapins. Yes, Bluecrow, that Other One from 5/13 is hot. Love the 77 Jack a Roes. Stella Blue GDTRFB.
Of course Phil back in 77 no longer singing but giving us the Thank you and Goodnight!
Did you guys get your MSG Box Sets?

Mine is showing a Thursday delivery date. Looking forward to it.

Dr.Beechwood, Dr. Shot

I sure don't remember that from my FM tape back in the day! Maybe my memory isn't what it used to be either! I'm sorta in the same boat DV, my attention's has been on other shows in this tour and it's been ages. I have that box, but was streaming it today, jumped in at FOTD. Just now going back to the opening songs. A fun listen.

edit -went to the official release and the Dr. Beechwood "banter" is edited and a good portion is missing.

MSG box

#8058

scheduled for delivery tomorrow but figured UPS handed off this afternoon, so went and asked before the PO closed

I like it

5-13-77%

A portion of it was played on GD Hour at some point in the 90’s if I recall correctly.
I taped it and that was the best sounding copy of that show (partial) that I ever had, until the Box came out.

mmm

Been a bit occupied, but I like the prospect of revisiting 5/12 and 5/13 tomorrow.

4/11/89-Rosemont IL

Okay, for those of us still waiting on our boxes, how does 4/11/89 sound?

There is a Miller from 2019 recorded by Pearson and Healy.

For those with your boxes, I understand and enjoy.

Rosemont

They played 4/6/89 Ann Arbor on Sat Radio tonight and I was unexpectedly stuck in my truck waiting for almost the entire show. Rolled it into 4/11 Rosemont when I got home making it through the end of the first set.

Solid, typical spring 89. I'm a sucker for Memphis Blues and the deal was hot as was the Shakedown opener. I tend to gravitate towards fall '89 over spring and summer '90 but that's just personal preference. Spring was the warm up but it's quite solid, typically well played and as the year progresses the songs and shows begin to show their legs. For me the turning point is 9/29 Shoreline but the whole year is really quite solid.. it just grows and grows.

Hope to hit the rest menyata.. Wasn't able to side trip on Spring 77 as planned. Life is unpredictable. Sometimes you just have to roll with it.

Looks as though tomorrow I'll do pretty much the same. Good pick.