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  • rockthing
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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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    There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
    The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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    Hey folks.
    Whew! Wall to wall autumn (deliberately avoiding the overly-insistent rhyme) and have taken the new year winter decompression to track a lot of the transfers of old vinyl I'd made back in August. Thanks to that, The Dead have taken something of a backseat in my listening during the new year as I've now got all of these other things in a convenient format.

    While tidying up an old hard disk, I came across a James "Blood" Ulmer show I must've torrented over ten years ago, but for whatever reason never unpacked. No info file, and so far various Googling can't even prove that the concert even happened. The directory is only listed as ulmer2_27_86. Anybody have a suggestion where I might look to find some more info on this? I checked out the taper forum, and the "Looking for..." forum, but there hasn't been a lot of activity over there.

    One new Dead show in my library, however:
    6/8/74 FOB which I've only had on once, but wasn't giving my full attention. I think I found it also unpacked on a hard disk while "house cleaning". My (slowly) ongoing exploration of Wall Of Sound audience tapes. Any takers?

    There is also a trove of late 60s shows that were binge torrented and then never unpacked. Can't wait to get to those.

    Well, I'd wanted to recap, but I'm not even out of August, so I'll spare you the flashbacks.

    >Oroborous>
    Thank you for the acknowledgement so many months ago.

    ● Just put the 2/24/71 Port Chester show on. This one I'd transferred from an old cassette. Haven't heard it in a really long time, and don't have as many specific memories of it, like the 2/18 tape.

    Oooh. This Bertha. Bump! Bump!

    Either my cassette was running slow or this is the most mellow Hard to Handle I've ever heard. Dig it.

    I love these really slow early Losers, too. It seemed like it might be vying for a spot in the Dew rotation in those days, but they eventually picked up the tempo to a slow trot as the years went by. This being transferred from a tape, it may just be a media issue. I sometimes cover this on acoustic, and always do it real slow and always only ask for 1 gold dollar, not ten. To me, these are the archetypal Losers.

    Epic Good Lovin' drum solo!

    Thanks for that ranking of that Feb '71 run. Found AUDs on the Archive for the 19th and 21st. Back in the day, I ended up with only 2/18, 2/23, and 2/24 somehow. I was trying to explore as many different eras as possible, I guess, so didn't go for a completist approach... I guess... who knows what I was thinking back then?! lol. I'd take whatever I could get. Those tapes accompanied me on many a road trip cause that period is just fantastic driving music....

    ● A good buddy lent me the 3/9/81 discs. I don't think he got the MSG box, just the single show on offer. Those were on in the car for quite a while last fall.

    My buddy was, like, "Dude. Check this China Cat," and he was not wrong. For me, because I'm less familiar with this era, I felt like there was some really unusual interplay between Phil and Jerry in there. Brent's synth work is pretty novel, too. Sounds like he'd been listening to some Steve Winwood. I could stand for a bit more of it, if I'm honest.

    Bird Song was the first tune in this show to really grab me, though.

    An electric Deep Elem? I'll take that.

    Uncle Johns is kind of a mixed bag. There are some really cool things happening, but it seems a little ragged at times too. That's just how it goes, but that's how I hear this one. No disrespect for hanging it out in front of a huge crowd.

    The Drums > Space > Other One is also fantastic. Sounds like someone (I'll guess Mickey) is playing with some microphone feedback, incorporating it into the jam.

    That Stella Blue seems to start out a little unsure of its footing, but by the end is soaring. That's a real highlight... I mean, I love Stella Blue pretty much any time you'll give it to me, but after a few listens this one really grew on me.

    I think I'm still a little partial to 3/7/81 at U. of Maryland, though.

    >bluecrow>
    Cal Expo rang a bell, but I've only got 5/26, 27 from 1993.

    5/26 is a 3rd gen cassette 1st set and a 4th gen 2nd set AUD. Not sure how that happened. Couldn't tell you anything about it off the top of my head other than that there is a heart mark next to Playin' > Drums > Space > and I tracked that all as just Playin' because that's how I roll.

    ● 5/27/93 is a partial board, but 7th gen cassette... only the 2nd set. I was doin' postage and blanks, so ended up pretty far out on a limb a lot. I'm not using headphones, but there's not a thing wrong with the sound quality. Might have just lost the first set, or maybe never had it.

    Pretty worthy Scarlet/Fire.

    Might skip Wave to the Wind so I can get an ear on the Cassidy > Uncle Johns > Cassidy Reprise > Drums segment. Nah. Wave to the Wind is 7 minutes long. There must be some sort of jam in there. Better be. Certainly are a lot of changes. Jer's on top of 'em. That's about all I can say.

    Cassidy is mellow and starting to jam out, but...ah, well, nice try. The seque into UJB comes across pretty forced. A bit more patience, and cooperation might have helped that jam. Good idea.

    The UJB jam, however is goin' off! Love how it is deconstructing toward drums. The band is showing a lot more patience here... oh, and the brief reprise of Cassidy is smooth as silk. You can hear Jerry hinting at it for a while. It would have been magic if they'd pulled that off on the way out of Cassidy.

    Drums could always be counted on to deliver in the 90s. I'll expect no less here. Nice beam drones. More like space.

    Oddly, Space just seems to stop and Jerry's there playing TOO on his own for a bit. Cool super distortion Bobby cutting is the perfect ground for Jerry's crystal clear lines. Don't appear to be any Martian vocal effects on Bobby's voice, which is a shame. I always liked that. Jer digs in to some overdriven runs after the first chorus which are now weaving nicely with Bobby's stabs and dives. Good mix. The drums are touch lost behind the guitars, maybe. Vince is real low in the mix. Say what you want about '93, dudes are goin' for it. Some heavy echo on Bobby's voice for the second verse, which immediately diffuses into Wharf Rat. Coulda dealt with a bit more TOO, but that was as smooth a transition as you can ask for. The thing about this era is that they have the in-ear monitors, and intercoms, so they didn't have to hint at anything musically. All anyone needed to do was call a tune into the ears of the others. Makes the transitions a lot more succinct, which can be both smoother, but also sometimes a little less thrilling.

    Wharf Rat is a tune that suited Jerry any day, any year. This tune is gonna be solid no matter what... at least as far as I know. Tape starting to sound a little muddy at this point for some reason. It was fine earlier. Love that Bobby is well-represented in the mix to add his coloring throughout. Is this after they fired Dan Healy? Well, I spoke too soon. The Life I Should found the limit of Jerry's voice on this particular night.

    Sounds like Jer's starting GDTRFB, but maybe it's just because this Sugar Mag slides out of Wharf Rat as easy as can be before Bobby takes the lead. Even Bobby's sounding a bit froggy at this point. Musta been something in the air. (Can't imagine what!) Nothing to write home about, but nothing to complain about, either.... Jerry's lettin' some overdrive licks fly throughout the Sunshine Daydream section. It's interesting because it's like you can still hear his clean tone at the core of his distorted effect. Pretty aggressive, if short. No encore on my tape, unfortunately.

    ● My only May 91 show is Shoreline on the 12th and it's FOB probably available on the Archive. Couldn't tell ya anything about it off the top of my head.

    >Forensicdoceleven>
    >JimInMD>
    >PT Barnum>
    RE Woodstock

    Perfect back yard recreation. Hahahaha. :)

    Just listened to my old, old vinyl copy of the Woodstock Soundtrack a couple weeks ago, and even that excerpt of Hendrix is totally face melting. If I recall correctly this wasn't The Experience.

    I'm not sure I've ever heard the Dead's entire Woodstock set. Last year I was surprised to learn that CCR, Mountain, and Johnny Winter had also played Woodstock. I'm pretty sure I'd never known that. They were also not part of the soundtrack or film. Jerry, at least, makes a memorable cameo in the film.

    PT Barnum> RE Fall '91
    Near miss. I've got 8/16, and 9/17 in the library. Couldn't tell you anything about them off the top of my head. If there's one thing this group always does, it's fill in the gaps. Cheers.

    JeffSmith> RE HDTracks

    DUDE! Thank you! I've been looking for a site where I can get minimum 16b44.1 quality downloads. Being on the other side of the world, shipping even CDs is murder. One of my favorite things about nugs net is that you can buy, not hi-res, but at least CD quality downloads. I think downloads sound better than CDs, tbh. Something happens during the CD manufacturing process, or at least it has begun to seem that way to me.

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    I forgot about this one.. haven't given it a listen since release time. I'll have to change that.

  • bluecrow
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    1974 in the air I guess (isn't it always somewhere close?) as out here in the high desert I was reaching for DaP 42 and DaP 13 (Winterland Feb. '74) .

    The Road Trips series is chock full of gems. Happy to say I picked up all of them at the time with lone exception of Cal Expo '93. Of course I would love to see some of the partial shows released in full show glory (and run through Plangent) just like some of Dick's Picks need a revisit. But don't take that as a complaint, just a wish.

    Edit - DV I need to revisit the Penn State and Cornell volumes, plus the April Fools 88 show - they've been sitting there wondering if they're the chopped liver of RT. They haven't gotten the attention that the early years in that series have.

    Sort of almost the weekend. Onward!!

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    Portland... Funny, I just did 5/17 Vancouver recently. I'll hit Portland, it's been a while. I might have tossed this show out on this forum sometime in 2020. Hot hot, China Rider and that second set is interesting and pretty hot.

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    Rest of 3/15/73 seemed to get better as it went. Sweet jam in there.
    5/19/74: man I need to listen to this box more.
    Awesome jam!

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    This is a great show, minus the 3 1/2 song vocal drop out in the first set. The first set is really good, with a rocking Half Step, Big Railroad Blues, Scarlet, solid China Rider. Really like the WRS, Wharf Rat, Big River Peggy O into a killer Truckin, long Jam that is really fun. Great closing songs to a great show.

    Hard to believe this Box is already five years old. Put me in the camp of wanting more 74.

    Okay, all this Road Trips talk makes me want to que up #3.4 from Penn State and Cornell 1980.

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    Shoot, you only have two? You need more. Real Gone has re-released them all, minus the bonus discs. So much great music to be heard. Season 4 is fantastic with 5 mostly full show releases,. I like the compilations as well, 1.4 from Egypt with Love is so unique and the only release from this time period. Not a dude in the bunch.
    Love 3.3 from 1970, four CDs of great acoustic and electric Dead.

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Not the one from somebodies collection, I think it was the first one?
Yes it’s a ruff, but kinda fun in a way, and not many weird yelling in inappropriate spots etc, lot’s of clapping, but hey their mostly in time! Perhaps not the spaceship of some of its neighbors, but it is fall 72 non the less.
I bet the whole dealy made an impression on young HFs juvenile brain lol. Kudos to you senior freak!

9/16/72: actually hit that one via GOGD awhile back, I marked that I liked it…maybe I’ll hit 9/15 tomorrow as I’ve not yet.

5/5/90: aaa no offense to anyone, but I thought they weren’t prepared this night?
Just Talking out me arse: but after the sick spring tour they were off for a month and might not have practiced etc, I think some of these Cali gigs were considered practice some times.
It has moments, but for a 1990 show I was surprised how inconsistent they were.
After a couple nice soundcheck songs (openers), they had me stoked for a hot H/S/F, and they even sound itching before hand, then…Phil is not on it lol, and Jer steps off the gas and just lays down some chords until they can at least entrain. Perhaps an ambitious choice considering? But hey, I wasn’t there, that’s just what it sounds like…
By Queen Jane the drugs seemed to have settled ; ) and their more dialed in. Rest of the set is ok, but again, I’m comparing to early/mid 90 status quo, so wouldn’t say it was great.
Loved the spacey Playin, Crazy Fingers, but Uncle Js has another big Wiff, and yeah, I’m glad I heard the show, but more so the next night!

5/6/90: this to me, is more what you expect from early 90!
They shook the previous nights cobwebs off, and they sustain that consistent peaceful easy feeling that you’d expect from 90. Glad I finally hit these. I’ve thought the 6th or perhaps 6/24 would make good possible BTL 50th shows since I believe they and Brent’s last on 7/23 are the only shows that sport 4 tunes off the album. From what I recall of 7/23, I wouldn’t think that’d be the one? I know Autzen on the 24 gets love, and it has a good set list, so who knows? (I haven’t heard that one)
Dave will probably pick something from 1988 with 2 album tunes on it lol.
But this Dominguez Hills show on the sixth might work too?

Going to have to hit those Oree gone shows sooner than later…

Sorry DV, I’m running late: supposed to be off and relaxing, but the feed line to the pull out Kitchen facet sprung a leak. Luckily we were here so not too much damage in the finished basement, or gulp, the theatre gear below!
What a racket, have spent good part of 2 days trying to replace a $20 dollar part instead of a new facet for probably hundreds of denaros! But they list no model numbers or any identifiable info, and of course you need the info, because of course there’s no universal type parts, FFS! Oh well, time to prep:
Go Bills!
Go VIKS!

Vguy, yer Fish are starting to scare me! Should be a good one next week.

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Another solid night for the Bills. Yes, I can totally see why we didn't want Diggs around anymore?

Yes, a little rough.

Been thinking about 76 and want to offer 6/3/76, the official return of the Dead. Paramount Theatre Portland OR.

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DVikes, Going for a strong start right out of the gate with their first official show after their hiatus... I'm up, have two cups of strong black coffee running through my veins. Nothing but random tasks (not to be confused with odd jobs) scheduled all day which means I can most certainly fit this one in.

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Not sure I’ll get tunes today?
That’s ok, I’ve hit those shows somewhat recently.
First night was ok, but like the Dominguez shows perhaps a little Rusty, but by the second night the bugs are gone!
We’ll see how my memory is?
I’ll prolly get a little on in the background…

Sorry bout dem VIKS. Did they play that bad or are the Eagles that good?
I thought the Eagles were in decline, but I don’t know much about NFC?

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....don't worry. They're going to suffer their first loss this Sunday when they visit Miami. You heard it here first. 🐬

You maybe right!
Fish are looking strong and their a bit behind the rivalry after last few years, so probably will be pumped to bring it.
Ballers!
Should be a good game!
Whatevs happens, just hope it’s a clean game with no weirdness or the refs mucking it up…

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I used to live in Buffalo. There isn’t a city in this country that is more deserving of a championship than the city of Buffalo. Such great people in that city. I really hope that this is the year.

Edit: not to offend any other city. It’s just that Buffalo has never won a title in any sport. Minnesota at leasrt won with the Twins and Cincy had the Reds in the 70’s just to name a couple

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Wait now, don’t forget the Bandits lacrosse team won a few championships ; )
But yeah, we’re due lol

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Oroborous, I’m also forgetting that the Bills did win a couple of AFL championships in the mid 60’s, so to rephrase, Buffalo hasn’t won anything in the “modern era” of sports………except for lacrosse of course Ha!

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I've hit this before, but it's been a while (years?). Honestly, I don't think they were rusty as expected, in fact they sounded rather rehearsed. A lyric flub in Wharf Rat, some timing misques, nothing big really.

What I liked was the ethereal swank they settled into, what a groove. And how about JG's tone in the opening jam in Dancin' in the Streets? Opening with a strong, partially audience Might as Well seems appropriate. Love the early Help>Slipknot!>Franklins too. I think we got more in 76 than any other year (or it at least seems that way).

Nice show, a rut remover if ever I have heard one. Thanks DV.

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Love the laid back groove of this show as well Jim. First time for me, and I definitely will come back. Sound quality on this 2017 transfer from Miller recorded by Betty is really good. 4 1/2 dancing bears.
Might as well gets it going, good Row Jimmy, great TMNS, really solid Scarlet, Dancing to close the first set.
Crazy Fingers, Wharf Rat into Let it Grow, is this the first version without the WRS? Great stuff. I like this It Must Have Been The Roses. Help Slip Franklins, fantastic. Really nice extended Slipnot here. OMSN and close with the Wheel!
Could be a release at some point?
They played some really good shows at the Paramount in Portland.

What is next?

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Yep, Rusty’s not right. Super mellow, yes.
The third wasn’t quite how I remembered, but I still think you can hear subtle differences the next night as they’re past all the comeback/opening energy etc, and back in the saddle!
Glad I rehashed them, they were a nice enjoyable change, and the space I was in yesterday I appreciated the mellow.
Still can’t believe how mellow the crowd was. Like Phil say something about glad to be back, and there’s almost no crowd. If that had been NY, the place would have gone nuts!
Perhaps that’s why they choose mellow sorta out of the way Portland: to use as warm up shows without as much distraction/media etc? Rehearsal fir the big east coast tour that probably was a media circus, 76 style anyway.
Whatevs, 2 interesting but perhaps slightly different kind of shows, from a different kind of year.
Some old polished chestnuts and some cool new songs that unfortunately didn’t stick around much.
If only they’d thrown in the occasional DS in 76. Can you imagine a DS via that mellow groove…

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And I need work fuel, imma gonna go with more box prep ala 3/7/81 and 9/17/82.
I figure I’ll hit a couple more of these shows this week, then since the release day is supposedly the 27th (which means at least another week before it’s probably in my grubby little hands), next week we fully cleanse!
Looking at more fall 79, more 76 and 77, some 73 or 74, maybe something later, and most def some primal. Nothing cleanse better than some full on primal!
After all the Dicks talk elsewhere, perhaps we can fire up one of those awesome fall 72 DPs on the WE to enjoy under proper conditions? Or,…? Chever way your pleasure tends!

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Unusual sets, early versions, good energy. Been really digging this region, looking forward to the box!
Both worth a listen.

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3/7/81 OB?

I will get it going tomorrow.

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Like a north bound train.

Yep, you’ll like that one DV, the 82 was good too.

Today I’m powering my labor with 9/13/83 and 6/30/87.
Somehow I’ve not listened to Manor Downs, and since we were digging on some 87 back aways, I thought we’d dip into the 87 summer tour again.

Tomorrow was thinking to end box prep we’d go 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.
Maybe the Frost 82 this WE?

Next week full cleanse, anything but 81-83 lol.

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Cole Field House - March 7, 1981
"Uncle John" tease after "Saint"

setlist

Alabama Getaway
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dire Wolf
Me and My Uncle
Big River
Candyman
C.C. Rider
Jack-a-Roe
Passenger
Bird Song
Looks Like Rain
Deal

Iko Iko
Lost Sailor
Saint of Circumstance
drums
Truckin'
Black Peter
Around and Around
Johnny B. Goode

One More Saturday Night

Madison Square Garden - March 9, 1981
"Wheel" tease before "Good Lovin

setlist

Feel Like a Stranger
Althea
C.C. Rider
Ramble on Rose
El Paso
Deep Elem Blues
Beat it on Down the Line
Bird Song
New Minglewood Blues

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Samson and Delilah
Ship of Fools
Estimated Prophet
Uncle John's Band
drums
The Other One
Stella Blue
Good Lovin'

U.S. Blues

source: dead.net

P.S. I am not a robot

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Ok, continuing with box prep 2022 with 9/18/82 & 9/24/83.

Yep, that 3/7/81 was another one, really getting stoked for this box!
And I forgot how rippin 6/30/87 from Canadaland was: musta been somethin I ate ; )
That and the 84 show kinda blur together. I remember we dropped exactly at the border designation point half way across the peace bridge (so if pulled at customs we’d have nothing on us, only in us lol) so by the time we arrived things were getting interesting. You entered through a amusement park which to me looked like we were in a real life Flintstones episode! I remember during the second set being pretty high and needed to walk it off a bit, so went up to the top of the lawn during the killer S/F. I can remember holding on to the iron fence and watching a sick sunset during a ragging Fire on the Mountain, but not much else? If you dig summer 87 you’ll want to check this one out!
That second set is ferocious.

Hey now WTJ, welcome back. How was the road trip in that new buggy?

Ok, big anniversary looming: Frost 10/9 and 10/10/82.
I was thinking of doing them this WE since by Rocktober perhaps we’ll hopefully be in full box immersion and/or be needing to move on etc. But would like to hear some thoughts on that?
So, do we hit the Frost before the box, or wait until, Rocktober sometime???

Sounds like a plan OB. I also want to check out that June 87 show. Looks like there is a relatively new Miller out there.

Gave 3/7/81 a go yesterday and wasn't really in the mood for an audience so went with 5/23/72.

Hopefully we will all have the new box next weekend, but I am not counting on it.

Enjoy yourselves out there.

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Since so many great sources and newer ones always coming in, input on sources for the POT day choice is always appreciated.

Trip with dad in the new ride was bittersweet OB (I'll shoot you a line in a bit). Thanks for asking and Keep the Grate Picks Coming All. :-) :-) :-)

P.S. -edit- From the Seamons: Rule 1 'If you're going to be boogieing, be careful about the level you're at.' Oh, and do stay out of the trees. :-P

Pharoah Sanders opened and his set was uploaded to the utoobs yesterday 9/24 following his passing. it's a pre-FM source, just listened, and it sounds beautiful. Pearson/Healy Miller master of the Dead's sets is available and sounds way good also as I dip my toe into that. maybe do the two-fer. just saying.

Home, so want somthin completely different to hear on actual stereo!
Was thinking 9/27/72 or DP 11?

Have enjoyed the pre box dive, but need to cleanse hard this week so if/when the box shows were ready!

I’ll revisit the last couple days shows right after this commercial break!

Ok, where we’re we?
Frost. 10/9/82, somehow I’d never heard this one but sure glad I finally did.
Definitely a fine show and good recording (Miller though the other SB I tried was just as good)
But as is often the case with a first show after a break, it’s off in spots and is sorta the warm up show.
JG especially seems to be having some troubles, which going by Bobs teasing him about his rig not working (guessing that’s because Bobs gear always seemed to have issues so I bet the band/crew gave him endless crap).
So, first day back to work and your shit don’t work etc. But the occasional snafus certainly do not mean this is not a top show, I just don’t feel it’s consistent enough for release. Big Powerful back side and all, but the next night is a different story!
10/10/82: by the next night all cylinders are firing, Bob especially is having a big night! Best LL Rain? Well, perhaps not the GOAT but…! They come out rocking and rarely let up. This, and excerpts from the 9th would make a nice DaP!
The Miller was good, but I’m not sure about the mix? It seems to be mixed more for the venue as the instruments are often back in the mix comparatively. I should relisten with a good aud as I bet the live sound was fantastic!
Perhaps with the full “treatment”, and/or if there’s another mix somewhere, this one could be spectacular?

Ok, BC, perhaps I’ll try the 5/21 twofer mañana at work, but I needed something different and really needed a official release of something as I’ve been binge streaming on crappy gear or even just my iPad so my ears need it!

So that’s we’re I’m at, hope DV (and you too) are fully digging the Frost shows. If you’ve never, you must!
Onward!

Go Viks!

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Still working my way through the Frost shows and really like 10/9/82 so far. Love these early versions of West LA Fadeaway. Fun on the Road Again, Big River, Dupree's, yes! Recording is really good. Nice groove to the show.

Way behind but Dick's 11 sounds good as well as the 92 show from Bluecrow.

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Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Stanley Theater, September 27, 1972

As the man said, ”Morning Dew to open the first set???” And a He’s Gone to open the second set. And a 30 minute Dark Star, into Cumberland no less. And a rare Attics of My Life. It’ll all dew quite nicely…………

Dick’s Picks 11, released June 9, 1998. Is this one that fell through the cracks? Dust it off, it’s dew for a revisit………………

OK yes there’s a patch, but it’ll dew just fine………………..

The dew of compassion is a tear…..

Rock on!!

Doc
But see, Orion sheds unwholesome dews;
Arise, the pines a noxious shade diffuse;
Sharp Boreas blows, and nature feels decay,
Time conquers all, and we must time obey…..

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I'm down with this one. Grate pick Doc, this is just a wonderful show and a really good recording. I have a little smiley face beside this Dark Star, that means that it's mighty fine. Thanks for reminding me how far out this show is.

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Monumental show! Really got your money's worth with that huge set list. Sound was VERY good and I had it cranked for Phil's descending bombs in that opening Dew. Loved Paul Grushkin's notes in the liner. Good chronologic description of how it feels as the rush commences. Classic DS>Cumberland and a high energy finish to top it all off.
Glad I got to dust this one off. So much just sitting there waiting. I'm sure I have some Dave's I've only heard once or twice. So much GD, so little time.
Cheers

Good idea OB. It has been a while. Such a good pick Doc also gave it the nod.

24 years later and it is still good. I mean, any show that starts off with a Morning Dew, Bird Song, Brokedown Palace, China Rider Playing all in the first set. Yes and of course that second set Dark Star, Cumberland, Attics? Come on. Easy to see why Dick wanted this one out. What a fun ride.

No box shipping notice yet for me. I did buy my tickets for MUATM for November 1.
2-3 weeks out for the #44 announcement.

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It's got a Cumberland.. Honestly, I had not listened to this in a long time also. In the abundance of riches.. so many good shows have been released. I should listen to some of them more.

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Wow.

May the four winds spare your safely home.

Did we do 8/3/82 Starlight Theatre KC? Was looking for a hot, not 1972 Cumberland Blues??

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Hey Jim, sorry for the delay.

I don't think we ever hit 8/3/82, so let's do it. I think OB is keeping the list so I could be wrong.

It doesn't look like we will have the new box this weekend, so let's keep it rolling.

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I think I hit that this summer when I was bingeing out. Not at home so can’t check my DB, but the set list looks familiar, especially that Shakedown Samson, which spoiler alert the transition is nothing special.
But hey don’t let my overindulgence hold ya back. Fire it up!
I just went too far with the early eighties binge so staying away until box binge.

Enjoyed DP 11 Monday at home in big speakers etc, always loved that whole DS>Cumberland>Attics thread, and a decent Dew opener, yep, definitely a big Dick!

I did hit 5/21/92 yesterday. Ok for 92, perhaps a bit anemic early on but the second set gets going and hey, always enjoy a nice SOTM.
In general, I’m cutting back on Dead a little as I’m kinda burnt lol.
But supposedly the box arrives Saturday by 7:00? Good news is it’s moved rapidly and more efficiently than usual (no criss crossing the state passing within 1.5 miles of our house) bad news is they went with this lane ass sure post garbage so now I have to stress out worrying how they labeled it and if then the PO will except it or send it back, uuugggghhhhhh, why, WHY?? Every other box we’ve gotten has been straight UPS no BS USPS chaser!
It’s bad enough we have to worry about weather Dave’s makes, at least the box’s usually come right to the house!
Sucks not getting mail at home but, Oh well, all good things in all good time!
ONWARD!

Oh, ps Hey Bluecrow, couldn’t find a Pharaoh Sanders on archive?
Where ya find that again?

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Oro - search "pharoah sanders 5/21/92 utoob" on the goggles and it should be top result video or near top. It is an audio only source however. It sounds beautiful.

as for the Dead's sets - yeah, it's '92. I thought set I was pretty good sorta sparked by the Pharoah Sanders set. Only made it through the Scarlet > Fire in Set II so far then got distracted. I actually thought energy dropped a little for that but not bad for that year. I thought the source ultramatrix sounded really really fine.

DiP 36 was awesome. Right now listening to Baltimore release from Fall' 72 (DiP 23).

I know some of us have have hit 8/3/82 at at least 2 different times. Not sure if it was ever an "official" POTDWD. Great show from a great tour. Excellent Set I including a Big Railroad and a Might as Well. Then that Shakedown opener Set II plus a To Lay Me Down and a Let it Grow before drumz!! Casey Jones encore says a lot.

No shipping notice yet on box.

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Dark DV with laser eyes

Can't remember the show but that sounds like Bob.

Turns out I did get a shipping email on the 28th. Missed it in the flood of junk mail. Box is in Salt Lick as of last night. Hopefully it gets here before I have to skip town for some work. Mail innovations works just fine for me when its shipped out of Cali. From Kentucky? Now that sorta sucked. Having said that the FedEx version is far far worse for those of us who depend on their SLC hub. A package can sit there for weeks before FedEx manages to get it to USPS.

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I know where to look now.

DV, shit, I remember that, I had that tape, but can’t recall the show? Definitely Bob lol.

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Yes, it is definitely Bob.

5/13/77 and a great show.

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Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Springfield Civic Center, October 2 1972

The last show of the wonderful 1972 Fall East coast tour. Worth waiting for? Absolutely!!

Fourteen song first set, twelve song second set (with much jamming and a Dew), the rare Tomorrow Is Forever, and a two song encore. Lacking only a Star, this is about all one could expect from the Dead at this moment of time. In other words, very fine and thank you very much!!

AND there’s a very decent Miller remaster out there. Perhaps an official release one day? We can only hope!!!!

Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish……..

Rock on!!

Doc
Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself……

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Do you get all this wise advice from books or come up with yourself? :-)

Thanks for the grate picks as always...maybe hit us with an 80's 90's again sometime...:-) :-) :-)

Make it a grateful day all...

I didn't remember that DV. I was thinking maybe a Fillmore East show. Been a long while since i've checked 5/13 out. The first set is a doozy - got the first of those amazing Spring '77 Jack-a-Roes plus that Scarlet > Fire. Last Dead show in the Auditorium, which was a pretty proper place, I think they had Andy Frain ushers working there. After that it was the Uptown which was a bit more tolerant of the scene. Only show I saw at the Auditorium was Garcia and Kahn summer '82.

That Springfield 10/2/72 show is new to me and sounds like a must do.

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Word is circulating backstage and pretty soon we will have a full band on stage.Calling Doctor Shot. Dr. Beechwood you are needed on stage immediately. Billy and Mickey played some sort of Prank and the full band wasn't on stage ready to go for TMNS. Funny stuff, of course I wasn't there but they always seemed to have a good time out there.
In a sea of great shows, 5/13/77 and 5/12/77 have been somewhat neglected by me. They shouldn't be. Both are great. There is something about these Peggy Os and Terrapins. Yes, Bluecrow, that Other One from 5/13 is hot. Love the 77 Jack a Roes. Stella Blue GDTRFB.
Of course Phil back in 77 no longer singing but giving us the Thank you and Goodnight!
Did you guys get your MSG Box Sets?

Mine is showing a Thursday delivery date. Looking forward to it.

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I sure don't remember that from my FM tape back in the day! Maybe my memory isn't what it used to be either! I'm sorta in the same boat DV, my attention's has been on other shows in this tour and it's been ages. I have that box, but was streaming it today, jumped in at FOTD. Just now going back to the opening songs. A fun listen.

edit -went to the official release and the Dr. Beechwood "banter" is edited and a good portion is missing.

#8058

scheduled for delivery tomorrow but figured UPS handed off this afternoon, so went and asked before the PO closed

I like it

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A portion of it was played on GD Hour at some point in the 90’s if I recall correctly.
I taped it and that was the best sounding copy of that show (partial) that I ever had, until the Box came out.

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Been a bit occupied, but I like the prospect of revisiting 5/12 and 5/13 tomorrow.

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Okay, for those of us still waiting on our boxes, how does 4/11/89 sound?

There is a Miller from 2019 recorded by Pearson and Healy.

For those with your boxes, I understand and enjoy.

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They played 4/6/89 Ann Arbor on Sat Radio tonight and I was unexpectedly stuck in my truck waiting for almost the entire show. Rolled it into 4/11 Rosemont when I got home making it through the end of the first set.

Solid, typical spring 89. I'm a sucker for Memphis Blues and the deal was hot as was the Shakedown opener. I tend to gravitate towards fall '89 over spring and summer '90 but that's just personal preference. Spring was the warm up but it's quite solid, typically well played and as the year progresses the songs and shows begin to show their legs. For me the turning point is 9/29 Shoreline but the whole year is really quite solid.. it just grows and grows.

Hope to hit the rest menyata.. Wasn't able to side trip on Spring 77 as planned. Life is unpredictable. Sometimes you just have to roll with it.

Looks as though tomorrow I'll do pretty much the same. Good pick.