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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #281
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    I was concerned, glad to hear you are well. Southwest of you I'm concerned, I still have friends in central florida, my mother lives down there (93 yrs old) but also dodged the main bullet, waiting for others to contact me. Mini vay kay play dead

  • #282
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    thanks, Doc

    Good to hear you and yours safe and sound. Thoughts go out to FL friends (so far, all good) and all who were so near the path. Almost at 1972 here, streaming the early December 1971 run at mini-MSG Felt Forum. A gloriously bright sunny Vermont day, fall foliage coming on, first frost tonight. Will pull the last peppers, tomatoes and basil out now.

  • #283
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    Love it! The Ess Amt-4 is a two-way with the slightly smaller Heil Air Motion Transformer and a 10" woofer rated 20W to 250W. They are 4 ohm, 45hz-24Khz, with the x-over at 1000hz, and called the sleeper in their killer line up from BITD. The best thing they have going is that Amt which delivers clear beautiful highs and solid mids in all directions from an open top design. Easy placement that way too. Look up their big boys, ESS Amt-1s and their Towers (I forget the number), well respected and still fetch four figure prices as parts units which tells you a lot. The Amt itself is indestructible and lifetime warranted. Mine had a solid pure pulp cone on that 10" which I have had to replace with a set of Misco, made in Minneapolis, Oaktron 10" from their Heritage line made to replace the similar stuff in all the brands from BITD. Same pure pulp cone and big voice coils and magnets but in a stamped steel frame just like the originals. Spec at 16-4000hz and 92 db efficiency.
    Got the ESSs cheap when almost new in 1977 from a college roomy who couldn't manage to get them back home to Cincy without a car. But then when the cat put a hole in one of the woofers in the 90s I replaced the originals with what I thought would be an upgrade but I screwed up. Bought subs that were 8-ohms by Pyramid, Super Pro Super Blue, made by Eminence in US ( Kentucky?) famous for their instrument speakers for bass and guitar. Great deal from a car audio shop going out of business and they took my torn ones in trade as well. As you know, that 8-ohm mistake changed the x-over to 2000hz and I traded off some midrange for killer, punchy bottom end which I thought at the time was good. Found out about five years ago that I screwed up and got the Miscos for about what I sold the now valuable subs for. Fit like a glove which no one who tried that swap with the only available 10" direct from ESS could do as all they sold was the big boy 10" from other higher models with a cast aluminum frame that required sawing into your cabinets just to make it fit. Found that out on Audio Karma luckily from others trying to do the same replacement on their various ESS. A couple of those guys used Dayton woofers to good effect but I went with Misco as their specs were a perfect match to original, hence original sound. Was not going to try to mess with upgrading as I might have had to upgrade the x-over too and taking a saw to the cabinets was out of the question. SO, long story longer, I got my midrange back and Phil bombs sound better than ever! Not bad for a novice hack job since I have zero skills with electricity or carpentry. Not even interested in a sub really. Pretty small living room and I want to keep peace in the neighborhood. Anytime you upgrade there is a leap of faith that the money you're spending will get the result you're after so I got lucky in all this I'd say. Some with a little more dinero are switching stuff all the time but you don't know unless you go. I certainly was OK with all my 70s stuff but you get used to your sound and don't realize how much better it can be until you go there. Thanks Oro.
    Cheers

  • #284
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    I wish your last statement was true - but I suspect that the selfish behaviour of the powerful will have long lasting negative consequences for years to come.

  • #285
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    Most anyplace one lives is essentially dangerous......

    For all those who asked, or were concerned...............

    The Gillespie household is doing fine. So far, we've only lost power for about 45 minutes, but it's back on now. We've only caught the "tropical storm" part of Ian, but I have heard that potentially, this may be the deadliest hurricane to ever hit Florida. We now live in Green Cove Springs, about 30 miles southeast of Jax, safely away from the beach, the St John's River, and Black Creek. We're in a newish house, on high ground, have lots of food and water, and have an excellent generator. The St Augustine area is getting badly flooded........

    The strongest hurricane to ever hit Florida was the Labor Day hurricane of 1935, sustained winds of 180+ mph when it hit. There is a lovely--and moving----monument in the Keys to the hundreds who lost their lives in that storm. I've visited that site many many times while I lived down there. The deadliest? Probably the same hurricane, the exact toll is unknown, but probably in the hundreds.......

    For Matthew, we evacuated. For Irma, we hunkered down and rode out the storm. For a hurricane, either get out early, or be prepared to ride it out. I reassured my wife, "No matter what comes, we'll ride it out together".

    Out of an abundance of caution, my office is closed today and tomorrow, and I don't work this weekend. A "mini-vacation" of sorts. Now that the power is back, I'm actually busy spreading 1972 Lyceum shows around. Some things never change, hurricane be damned!!

    Here we dodged a bullet, yet I pray for those in harm's way on the Gulf coast...............

    Stay safe, and rock on,

    Doc
    What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal......

  • #286
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    Well said 1stshow

    Don’t think I’ve heard of the ESS Amt 4s, looked them up, interesting, do you use a sub with them?
    And you refreshed my memory about adcom so I looked into that brand a little too.
    Interesting video comparing Adcom and NAD to contemporary Schiit audio.

    Almost bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC before I got my Meitner. For like 22-23 hundred bucks they sound as good as many DACs costing many thousands more! Schiit makes simple but value friendly great sounding products, or at least the ones I’ve heard.
    But yeah, NAD and Adcom, same idea, BITD budget friendly but great sounding gear. Sounds like a sweet little system!

    Hybrid stuff. I’ve heard some sweet sounding hybrid stuff at audio shows.
    Of course Jer Bear had a hybrid system utilizing a Fender Twin Tube amp for his pre and a SS MC2300 power amp and we all know how great that sounded and perhaps why he never changed his backend!
    I would say if your going to try hybrid go tube pre and SS power…
    My best recollection was with my buddy who started YFS and built my custom Ref 3 server: had an amazing sounding system one year at RMAF using YFS server, Meitner DAC, Custom made fully analog pre (tube?) biamped with one of the best sounding MC 275 tube amps on the highs, and a 200 per McIntosh solid state amp on the lows (don’t recall the model), powering some Von Schweikert audio stand speakers. I thought the sound and imaging of this system, even in the shitty little hotel room sounded as good or better than much bigger and expensive systems there that year.
    Just can’t describe what a big clean sound this relatively small system produced! Of course for the price of the system it should! Lol.

    I think it’s like everything else: trial and error and if it’s done right it can be a plus!
    I’ve never had tube stereo gear, but I’ve heard some great stuff, but that particular MC 275 that my buddies dad (some kind of engineer/scientist) restored and modified, is perhaps the best tube amp I’ve ever had the pleasure to hear. His dad is the one who built the custom line stage too. Ya know, let’s design and build a one of a kind killer audiophile unit just for something to do lol. They build their own bike frames too!
    So to me it’s like all this stuff, tube versus SS, analog versus digital etc, there’s not just one thing that’s best or better, if it’s done right, and you get the right synergy for your room etc, I’ve heard systems of all kinds that were amazing!

    Just a thought, yeah tube amps can be great for instruments for musical creation when you want that slightly overdriven sound (think Dead 72 before using Mac amps on the instruments), but for sound reproduction they can get tubby or muddy with perhaps too much distortion. Some people like that as it can give a richer, or warmer sound, I’m with you 1stshow, I prefer a more neutral sound, though some think that’s too dry etc?

    In the end, it just comes down to what’s best for you!

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    For a few years, I was deeply into audio: or as deeply as my meager budget would allow, anyway. It started when I realized I needed a tube amplifier. This was because I realized that I would never in a million years use a transistor amp for my guitar, so why would I use one for my home listening?

    But of course tube amps and preamps are pretty pricey, so I had to go the DIY route: I built a preamp from a kit (Bottlehead) and bought an old ST-70 power amp, and I spent a lot of time tweaking them with various upgrades. They sounded pretty good, eventually. And I needed some efficient speakers, so I paired them with some Klipsch Heresys that I got off craigslist (for $100!).

    What happened next is so typical of me it's embarrassing: the ST-70 worked great for about 10 years and then just cut out one day. By this time, I had forgotten all the various rewirings and component upgrades etc I had done, and lost all my paperwork. So I had no idea how to troubleshoot it! Couldn't even find my volt meter! I decided to just sell the ST-70 for a couple hundred, get myself a used Sansui Au-417 (since they're reputed to have a tube-like sound, also a great phono stage), put all new caps in there, and call it day. So after all that I'm back to transistors. Sounds pretty good, though.

    Somewhat bemused to read the travails of my fellow heads who ordered the MSG set via Rhino and are now working through the delays and shipping mishaps. I didn't get the box set (early '80s are just not my era) but I went for the 3 CD breakout. Ordered it from Bezos and received on the day it was released. What a concept! I'm glad to have it, it's a good performance, but disappointed in the mix. It's all Jerry and Brent, Bob's guitar is completely (and I mean completely) inaudible, Phil and the drummers much too low. But you can hear Jerry great, and it's a high energy show so probably most people will really dig it. Still, I hope the rest of the box is better, for everybody's sake.

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    John Coltrane: Coltrane
    GOGD: Dick's Picks 36 (yow!!!)
    Joe Henderson: Mode for Joe
    Zappa: Hot Rats
    Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

  • #288
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    I went to separates during covid after doing some research and hearing from a collector of Heil Amt speakers that I wasn't hearing all my ESS Amt-4 floor standing speakers could do. Got an Adcom dual mono amp with 100W and 180 damping factor and was blown away like the Maxell guy. Got the other Adcom separates one at a time and noticed improvement each time. The pre-amp was better than using my old integrated amp as a pre and the digital tuner was way better than the old one. All are late 80s MOSFET stuff and fully restored they are still way cheaper than either vintage premier like Oro's McIntosh or 10x cheaper than modern audiophile. Just got to find a reliable restorer. They were the bargain audiophile brand BITD and made in USA. Very neutral coloring which some don't like but it's better to hear it exactly as it was made and play with the tone controls if you want different. Diminishing returns to go higher but I would have if the money was there. All in I spent maybe $700 and it sounds good to me. The bonus was I got a bedroom system from the old stuff, just have to add some speakers.

    Ten days to get my 3 CD MSG from CA to CO doesn't sound very innovative. Mail Innovations, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, adds almost 500 more miles to the route that would have gotten to me two to three days earlier had UPS shortcut Mail Innovations and delivered it straight from the handoff point only 60 miles away. Bad for the customer and bad for the planet. Should be here tomorrow. Oh well, as Neil says, "don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning".
    Cheers

    Edit: I find it interesting that folks are going back to valves, or tubes, especially in the pre-amp. I was advised to go with a hybrid solid state/tube pre-amp but stick with a solid state amp to get the benefit of the "warm" tube sound without the big bucks of the tube amp. But the hybrids were beyond my budget even used/restored as they are a newer thing. Wish my family had kept my Dad's old home built Heathkit tube amp. Would love to have heard that again.

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    Thanks Oro, a wealth of helpful information. AJS, there with you, floor standing wise, found a pair of 1986 Klipsch Cornwall IIs, 3 foot tall, 2 foot wide, 16" deep. Horn loaded tweeters and mid range, 15" woofers. They sound incredible for 35 year olds. Was driving them with an Onkyo receiver, one of the high end spec models for a long time and was happy. Eventually hooked up a power amp/pre amp combo and was surprised how much improvement... like Oro said. The power supply on the amp is huge, output rated at 150 watts per channel so a very efficient speaker like Klipsch has no stress, there is so much headroom. The damping factor as well important, a measure of how effectively (tightly) the amp controls bass response. When damping factor number is large, bass is well defined with detail and timbre, not boomy muddy. Whatever sub anyone might be using, not much useful response below 18-20Hz, as it's exponentially demanding to get lower, subsonic. The octobass and piano lowest notes are A0, about 27hz, Pipe organ low note is C0, 16 Hz. Except there's this thing called a rotary woofer that can go down to single Hz numbers at hideous expense, IMAX theater only? I would love to see and buy a 1968 NW tour box. Meanwhile, hoping Forensic Doc will let us know how it goes, we know he's in the Jacksonville area.

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    Mr Ones - great band, Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets. I saw them just before covid, and was supposed to be going again in 2020-but... That dvd/blu ray disc of them live is worth getting, too.

    Irrespective of the extent to which climate change is affecting the hurricanes in America, there can be little doubt that the countries who are suffering most are the poorest ones. And the ones who are contributing to it most are the richest.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

I for one am veeeeery happy with this.

I got the box. Which individual show did you get?

3/9?

You might think differently if you were able to get 3/10/81.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/07/2022 - 07:49

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Us Toronto Blue Jays fans wish good luck to the imperialist lackey running dog Seattle Mariners, starting today.

October is such a great sports month - NHL is starting, baseball playoffs are starting, NFL is in high gear (except for last night’s Colts-Broncos “game”), NBA starting soon, World Cup coming…
On the music front, SO many new releases out, and on the Dead front, it appears that the new MSG box is two thumbs up from pretty well everyone, there is a new DaP coming shortly (get those bets and votes in for what shows it may be), there is a new re-issue of Ace for order, Jerry has another release coming…whew!
All this, and another cancer free MRI scan for me this week. All this as we enjoy our Thanksgiving weekend here in the colonies. One. Lucky. Man.
It is to weep.

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Congrats on the MRI. Went through 11 years of that watch and wait stuff myself and it's no fun getting checked every 6 months, or even more often the first 2 years. Never had treatment, touch wood, and hopefully your results stay good. Those were CTs for me mostly and even with insurance each one cost me a grand. Kept me almost bankrupt the whole time but some cancers are simply mysteries to the docs. Best wishes!
Cheers

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Happy, happy, joy, joy, yes Mike, it’s Rocktober, “it’s Friday and I’m in love again”
Or, I’m so glad, I’m glad, I’m glad, I’m glad.
Glad to hear things are well, (for 1stshow too!), sounds like it’s truly a time to be thankful.
So big holiday wishes this WE to our friends across the border! Gobble, gobble 🦃
Can’t imagine going through all that, even after going through it with pops, I’m sure it’s way different when it’s you!

Big WE, the Other One has to work so imma gonna get busy with this shinny new box of goodness, well, right after I get down to the miiiiiiiinnnnneeeeee!

Hopefully Dave isn’t in a sports coma and gets us his next installment of slipping and sliding and dodging eagles on the beach!
Happy Fri Day Folks!

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/07/2022 - 09:26

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FirstShow & Oro - Thanks for the kind words. I have dealt with it for 16+ years, surgeries, immuno treatments (awful), months in a physical rehab facility as I learned to walk again (it attacked my spine), and I’ve had SO many MRI & CTs in all these years, I should be able to shoot lightning from my wrists. (Would that ever be cool for when the neighborhood kids come by for Halloween…!) Went from Stage 4 in a wheelchair to being cancer free, regularly biking and going to the gym, and hikes with the dog.
So our Thanksgiving here is feeling pretty good this year. I’m glad you beat it too, FirstShow, great news. Thanks again both of you for your thoughts.

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Local library "Friends of the library" book sale today.
All LPs and CDs as many as 5/$1.00 so no sense in getting < 5.
CD - Mars Hotel, like new and oddly I didn't have that one.
CD - Workingman's Dead, also pristine and got the LP last year at the sale for $2.00 (reverse inflation!) also perfect.
CD - Byrds - Sweetheart Of The Rodeo, looks like a newer reissue. Yes, has the Gram Parson outtakes, etc.
CD - Vivaldi - The Four Seasons, one of my all time favs.
CD - Jackson Browne - Running On Empty, how is it I didn't have that?
Love helping the library by helping myself, LOL. Got lots of books too, $1. for paperbacks, $2. for hardbacks.
Splurged on a $5. rarity, Audubon's The Birds Of America, not the giant collectable but a big folio size from 1962.
Not a bad haul for 30 minutes work. Need another bookshelf. They're piling up. The wife's a former librarian in her youth and a firm believer that you cannot have too many books.
Cheers

Edit: No need to abbreviate your story Mike. You've had a tough row to hoe. My second C doc died during my watch & wait, of course of the big C. Really hurt. He was cool. We talked fly fishing a lot as I had worked for Scott Fly Rod making expensive rods here in Montrose at two different times. Let's just keep on truckin'!

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1st Show - My doc is going through C now, and is closing his practice (he’s younger than me), so we spoke by phone yesterday and he really thanked me for inspiring his fight. Knocked me out at the knees. Thanks again. (I don’t want to downer everyone on a great music site.)
PS - Sweetheart of the Rodeo is a gem! To get the Parson’s cuts is great, because they had previously only been available on an out of print box set (which I have), and they sound really cool stacked up against the McGuinn originals. I have been a Byrds fan forever, and I still have a Byrds book I’ve never seen in print anywhere else that I “borrowed permanently” in my teen years from my local library. (To keep the karma at bay, I have donated dozens of decent books to the library, but not that Byrds book, it’s a keeper, still!)

Proudfoot - Oh yes, ‘tis the season for trash talk!

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A nod to you for your valiant and successful fight. Well done. There can be no better gift for the holidays. Congratulations and enjoy.

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Thanks Jack!

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Cancer sucks.

The chemists that won the Chemistry Nobel Prize this week developed technology that can be used for many things, including cancer treatment and imaging.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 10/07/2022 - 18:14

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8/19/80

Bobby does some great vocals

The entire show is awesome

Congratulations on your recovery - it's great to read your posts on here.

Apples and Oranges - (a)syd.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 05:26

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Thank you, my friend. Thanks to everyone who wished me well. I’ve said this before about this group here on this forum: a nicer group of people you will not find. :)

PS - Expecting the Wolf Brothers (Live In Colorado Volume 2) new release today. I know a lot of folks here that have seen them live say they can be a little low-key, and the first Volume was certainly that way, but I did like it, and I’m hoping this one is enjoyable, too. Saturday night is for playing Motorheadache (that name of that cover band playing here recently - from England - still makes me laugh, and the lead singer is a Lemmy faithful knockoff), and Sunday morning is for the Wolf Brothers.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 06:49

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My copy arrived yesterday and I fitted listening to it in between the ‘82 shows from the box set. The tempo is certainly slower but I did enjoy it. I particularly like the version of TOO and I’m a sucker for any versions of Brokedown Palace and Ripple. All in all it was worth the cost of purchase.

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Way to get back Truckin' ON!! These are magical times we live in, scientifically, as thirty years ago there was so little to be done about that 'C' word. Speaking of 'C' words, go get your ColonosCopies, people! I hit the big 5-oh a week after everything shut down in 2020, so didn't get around to my first until last fall, but how lucky are we to have good ways to detect certain 'C's? The procedure is easier than a teeth cleaning, and the prep is NOT as bad as people make it out to be. Just do it, folks! :)

It's difficult to find the chat these days, eh? Anybody ready for the MLS playoffs?

Be kind, rewind.

I'm not a robot, or else I wouldn't need colonoscopies.

DH Brewer - Yes, absolutely ready for playoffs. I was chirping Proudfoot yesterday with some Seattle trash talk, but eating a slice of humble pie today. I texted my youngest just before the game to see if he had to leave work “for a dental appointment with Dr Cooperstown” - ie - watching the game - but he texted back and said he was actually at the game! He said it was like the power got switched off after the Imperialist Lackey Running Dog Mariners (sorry, Proudfoot) took the lead in the first inning. Oh well.

Colin - I’m glad to hear Wolf Vol 2 is a good one!

Not a lot of chatter about the Beach Boys on these pages, but they have a super deluxe box set coming in November (Hello, Dennis!) covering the Carl & The Passions/Holland albums (with Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar), two decent BB albums. While I have those albums, there is a two disc live set as part of the package from 1972 (I think) that I’d like to get. We will see, because this package is expensive.

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I used to LOVE baseball, and still keep up with it, but now my love is soccer, so I was checking if anyone were interested in Decision Day in MLS Sunday, then the ensuing playoffs. Mike, as you likely know, the Toronto MLS team loaded up this year, but were never quite able to put it all together. The Loons looked great for a spell mid-season, but now have been absolute garbage for almost two months, so even if they make the playoffs, they may not be long in them.

Perhaps the clocks in MLB next year will improve the pace of play in MLB like they have in the minors, and that will help my interest in baseball. And if Manfred orders a ball that isn't made of old socks, then perhaps we could start seeing singles and doubles again? :) I grew up on 2:30 games that had lots of base hits, so this slow-moving Three-True Outcome version of the game is tough on this old curmudgeon. :)

Bin Berry, Berry good to me.

When I was a kid I lived for baseball. Huge St Louis fan: Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Lou Brock. I wanted to be Lou Brock. I mean how many little kids used to practice stealing bases!
Then I watched the money ruin it. Sure it’s happened to all sports, but watching it go down as a kid in real time to my childhood love was crushing. Then they started the announcers who NEVER shut up BS, coinciding with my personal BB “career” being curtailed by narrow minded jocks/politics: basically redneck coach couldn’t abide having freaks on HIS team even though I was way better then many on the team.
That’s when I turned my back on sports or at least jocks, and fully embraced the R&R lifestyle. Like, I can waste my time and hang around these jocks and end up bummed out with nothing, or I can cut a bunch of lawns, buy a guitar and amp, and have fun!, and maybe get a girlfriend! Hhmmmm??? A job, money, guitar/amp, maybe a GF versus….?
But I still think Hunter S Thompson was on to something in his sports book Hey Rube. He says the two best ways to improve BB would be to limit each batter to five pitches, no matter what, and to be able to throw the ball at players like in kickball lol.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 13:38

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No comments available on the MSG box?

Well.

I started with 9 20 82. Plenty fine. Now 9 21 82. Then 10 12 83, 10 11, 3 9 81, 3 10 81.

Extra MSG!!!!!

WELL DONE, PTB! WELL DONE!!!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 14:12

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Oro, now yer talkin'! St. Louis born and I got to see Gibson ( the original "the Big Man") pitch a world series game before we left STL in Dec. '67. Such an imposing pitcher standing on that mound. Could scare you even before he pitched it at you. Not sure which series game, could have been in '66. Brock, Orlando(?) Cepeda, they were a dynasty then and still my BB team.
Cheers
Got those Infinity speakers going in the bedroom system. They absolutely ROCK! Tested them with something I know the sound of, DP18 disc 3 that starts with that raging Sampson where Jer has to improvise awhile when Bob's mike was dead. And he certainly didn't use it all up as the later solos are powerful as well. Someone described the part where Jerry is filling in the beginning and goes into one of his rapid fire single note riffs as him aiming his guitar neck at the roadies and making like a machine gun firing at them to get the damn mike fixed.

Yes PF, not even a lot of posts on the 17CD thread either. Haven't fired up the 3CD yet. No comment.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 14:20

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....the MSG comment board is over there 👉

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Submitted by That Mike on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 17:26

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(In best Maxwell Smart voice) Hey Proudfoot! About that “Imperialist Lackey Running Dog Mariner” nonsense….

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 18:29

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It's all good, baby.

I keep sports a very long arm's distance away from my consciousness.

I just want the Mariners to win.

The ILRDMs are running onward to Houston

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 10/08/2022 - 18:56

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That was rough.

I don’t usually watch baseball that much anymore, but I had the game on while I was making dinner. Yikes.

Been a difficult year for Toronto sports fans.

Here’s my comment about the MSG box. DaP 43 is an immaculate release. Both the sound and the playing. So glad I own it.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 01:54

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....so quit yer chirping.
Going to the home opener Thursday against Chicago.
$70. I sneak whiskey in a plastic flask in my sock. Not because I'm cheap, but because I'm not stupid. Cokes are $8 ffs.
Golden Knights are looking decent.
Game On!!

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Submitted by That Mike on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 02:54

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Jack - The TO teams just fold under the pressure. I’m like you, I don’t watch much baseball anymore - that FOUR HOUR PLUS game is a perfect example why - but that was a tough one to watch.
Proudfoot - Good luck to the ILRDMs in Houston.
VGuy - Now you are talking my sport! I’m pretty pumped the season is starting. Smart move on the flask, they soak you crazy for refreshments at sports venues. I gave up the firewater a few years ago, but I know even then it would be $12 for a pony piss beer in a cup. Nah.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 10:32

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....first Tua. Now Bridgewater out. Starting rookie Skylar John Thompson. Dude shares my middle and last names so he can't be all that bad.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 10:45

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With the money I saved by not buying the MSG box I bought the Mosaic box "The Complete Dial Modern Jazz Sessions". Which is amazing - a trip to another musical universe for me.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 12:49

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Like Dave Rock with the money I saved by not buying, in my case, the 24LP box I have, so far, bought a number of items I hadn’t planned on buying anyway. Bill Evans - Live at the Village Vanguard’ , Keith Jarrett - ‘at the Blue Note’ box and 28 albums on the Discus label based in Sheffield. All are excellent and I still haven’t spent up. I think I’ll buy some more Discus albums.

Just to stay on topic - The Bills are doing well so far tonight aren’t they :))

The money I spent for the MSG Box is more than the money I spent on the Little Feat Box ($85 with free shipping), although the MSG Box has 17 CD’s of live concert recordings and the LF Box has 6 CD’s of live concert recordings, and 2 CD’s of greatest hits.
The MSG Box was $5 more than the Real Gone 10-09,10-76 vinyl (note: it’s the anniversary).
I received all of them over the past few weeks and have enjoyed them all and will continue to do so.

Bring on DaP44, JGB, Hendrix, and RSD.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 15:25

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I'm not sure everybody can still find MSG Comments, so excuse me for reposting this here just in case:

Finally caught up with my MSG box and had a chance to scan and work on Dave Van Patten’s cover art. It’s definitely a trip. Way more out there than the first image we kept seeing on the website showing a hand reaching down for shrooms. . . First, I combined the art from all four sides of the box (front, back, flap & spine) into a long horizontal panorama. Be careful – it’s a face-melter. It’s also a big file, so there’s a HI-res and MED-res version.

The official artwork for the six individual shows was derived from the box’s cover, but they simplified it. The full-tilt art on the box is so insane, I couldn’t resist making alternate covers for each show that include more of the crazy, complex context that was edited out (they’re listed in Dropbox as “BOX Art”). For any purists who may prefer the simpler, but official artwork that’s actually on the CD’s, they’re included too (“CD Art”). Check ‘em out and share ‘em around while listening to some well-recorded and potent Dead from the early 80s!

Try this: dropbox dot com/scl/fo/dxzr09qeqy5er7xlnoq64/h?dl=0&rlkey=5uz42d6yp5i7eby44rcg0ln9u

or PM me with an email address and I'll send you the linque.

AND glad to hear many of you are patiently facing down serious health issues with a healthy dose of humor. An inspiration to us all. Onward!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 18:52

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I was sort of meh on the cover art from what I initially saw in the early dead.net reveals. I didn't give it much thought.. but it did little for me.

When I opened it I immediately got it and I think it's great. The colors, context, the swirling carnival atmosphere.. add in a touch of benevolent weirdos and what have here is what it feels and looks like when you are walking through the crowd dosed out of your mind.

I immediately saw and liked it for what it is.

Edit: Ooops, posted on the wrong page. Sharing again elsewhere.. sorry for the duplicate.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sun, 10/09/2022 - 19:47

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40 years ago today, I was at the Frost Ampitheatre for an absolutely far out fun day with the Good Old Grateful Dead. My friends and I were lit and the Grateful Dead didnt disapoint. I'm sure a lot of other people who post on the this forum were there and know what a special day it was. It was the first appearance for the Dead at the Frost, Kingfish opened for Eric Clapton in 1975, and Garcia played a show there in 1971. A great time for the Grateful Dead in the Bay Area.

....but thats just the fan in me complaining.
Stupid Lions didn't even put a dent into the Patriots. Sorry Bob Lopes, but I have a long time distain regarding NE. Guess why??
Edit. I tend to cuss when it comes to sports. I signed a waiver though saying it was OK many years ago.

used to use the term "Lions" as a put-down when something lame presented itself

Yeah, football tends to suck balls

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 10/10/2022 - 03:42

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So going off Colin's post - on top of my mine - it just goes to show that even if you don't buy a deadnet box, the release of one can lead to the purchase of great music.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 10/10/2022 - 12:43

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40 years ago today, I was at the Frost Ampitheatre for another great show with the Grateful Dead. I bought a nice t shirt that said Stanford Dead on the front, I wore it out. They didn't sell anything inside the Frost that I remember, they didn't sell beer at the Frost or the Greek,. They sold beer down in Ventura and I sure bought alot.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 10/10/2022 - 23:54

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42 years ago tonight, you know where I was at, man those 1980 Warfield Theatre shows were a blast ! I think that there is a possibility for a Warfiield 80 box set. I assume they have some backup cassette masters, so even though some of the master reels got erased they would still have backups on cssettes. So let's get that 1980 Warfield box set cooking.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 10/11/2022 - 10:32

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1. DiP - 18, disc 3, 2-5-78 Cedar Falls
2. Steely Dan - Aja: According to wiki the band is named after a sex toy in a Burroughs novel?
3. Steely Dan - Can't Buy A Thrill: I like the David Palmer vocals on some of the songs. Fagan was uncomfortable with his vocal skills? By their second album their producer convinced him to take the lead.
4. Joe Cocker - Best Of
5. Joe Cocker - Sheffield Steel: Maybe my favorite of his studio albums. Has guest spots for Adrian Belew, Jimmy Cliff (album recorded in Jamaica), and Robert Palmer.
Got a whole new catalog of tunes now that a cassette deck is back. Old favs!
Cheers

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Tue, 10/11/2022 - 12:20

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Neil Young Archives Volume Two 1972-1976. Funny how the studio discs sound more 'live' than the live discs.

I've been a bit off Neil for a few years but the recent release of Time Fades Away on cd has got me back in in a big way. God that's a great record.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 10/11/2022 - 12:46

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Cheap Trick-At Budokan-Complete
Brand X-Nuclear Burn-Disc 3
Windham Hill Electronic Sampler-Soul Of The Machine
David Crosby-If I Could Only Remember My Name-Disc 1 of Re-issue
Traffic-Mr. Fantasy-Remaster

Dave!! Please head over to the beach so we can hear what #44 is all about!!

Music is the Best!!

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