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  • billy the kiddd
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    1968 The Great Northwest tour box set

    It's comming, some of the tapes are in the vault, the rest are in Owsleys boxes. It's gonna be a knockout!

  • Dennis
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    Hey Dave, got email from Experience vinyl's christmas sale. I saw they had a Hawkwind LP for preorder (we are looking in on you too). Thought it might interest you.

    Further note, I laughed when they show 3 from the vault being released in two day!!!! (right)

    1 and 2 pushed back till next year (again)!!!

    And the hits keep coming!

  • hendrixfreak
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    What is the format and timing for a '68 release?

    Just an exercise to see if my logic is still working... (Admittedly, there's a short distance between "logic" and "rationalization.")

    Releasable shows from '66 to '68 must be considerably rarer than the rest of the '69 to '95 period. Strategically, for the long haul, Dave wants to preserve a few "surprises" from '66 to '68 -- whether that really serves the "legacy" or just the business of the legacy. Yet when an unusual tape is uncovered (think 18 April '70) Dave has shown interest in kicking up dust with a release outside of the annual box and DaP series.

    I see three basic avenues for '68 release(s) or other oddball tapes (think MG's now-near-forgotten stash return): the annual box, DaP, and one-off RSD or just a special one-for-the-fans. (Although I was underwhelmed when they coupled a '68 release with that cartoon history book. C'mon! Why dangle a '68 to sell effin' cartoons??)

    If it's a box, do we think that Rhino is going to green light a more focused version of the porch crusher and go with a 10-CD collection of '66-'70? (That's what I wanted and they threw in '71-'95.) You know they're not going to release a 20-CD box from that span.

    A 3-disc DaP would seem friendly to, say, two or three '68 shows and I'd soil my diapers for that route.

    Or they do a one-off with the newly discovered June '68 tape from Owsley's banana boxes; even a short, limited edition release would cover its costs and reinvigorate the die-hards (that's us) belief in the almighty Vault's potential. OR (coffee!!) TPTB let the OSF release '68 GD.

    The recent MSG box demonstrates that there's plenty of great rock 'n roll in the Vault, but what percentage is really of keen historical interest, by which I mean transitional shows early in the band's development? I think it's telling that Dave commented, I think, on the PNW box (might be another box) that he proposed a 10-12 CD set and Rhino said make it a 20-CD set -- so the latter must be a sweet spot for production margins, meaning profit. (Ah, the word "profit"! I have no hang-up with that: no profit, no Vault releases.)

    So I see a potential '68 release(s) as a one-off in the DaP series or a special release. And I think it's key to create some Vault-related "excitement" because here's my personal calculus: I'm 65. Been a devoted customer of the recordings since 1971, live shows from '72 to '92 (so, 50+ years). Quit the scene in '87 after the band (Jer) ran out of steam and at age 30 I was actually evolving -- not mutating, just evolving... Over time, as with Jimi, the ABB and other favorites, the recordings replaced the defunct band as my foci. But as you may surmise from my recent news, I am switching gears and considering new ways of approaching life. In other words, if Dave is planning another, say, 15+ years of releases, shouldn't they front-load it with those great, transitional early shows? 1966 is fun, but '67 and '68 are typically ferocious. Will I still care about '68 tapes in five years? In 2027, the band will have been defunct for 32 years. I know the "kids" (20s and 30s today) love this stuff but I don't think they "get" '68. Just a guess.

    So many roads, so many words, when I could have just said: More '68, NOW!

  • dmcvt
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    Fancy boxes, 1968

    Here's another vote for simple packages, i.e. like Winterland box sets. Three-four show runs with 10-12 discs priced under $100 postpaid. Simple. Bet they would sell well, easier to produce. Shelf space is an issue here, as much as might like the fancy boxes with extras, they just sit on a shelf, its all about the music. On CD. Speaking of which and in HF reference to 1968, how about that Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm 9-2-68, Sky River Rock Festival show.

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    😊

  • Nick1234
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    HF I agree. All that packaging crap is one of the reasons that I rarely buy the boxes these days. The Winterland boxes are classy, really nice, easy to store and use, let's go back to that format. And why are they so expensive? Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue box was 14 discs for £50.

  • daverock
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    That was never a goal

    Nevertheless, I am sure I speak for football fans the world over when I say I hope... Japan win.

    I think the England team are benefitting from the fact that no alcohol is allowed in the stadiums. They play much better sober.

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    Songbird is indeed a phenomenal song.

    It can be interpreted from multiple perspectives.

  • Nick1234
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    What's going on?

    Belgium out, Germany out, England score 6 and then 500 on the first day. What's going on?

  • hendrixfreak
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    Vibes much appreciated, trust me.

    Hey, I ordered the new Petty 4-CD box Monday, it just landed. It is a model of minimal packaging while still being a fun package. I know that Dave & Co. love to work up each year's box and I have no complaints, I have argued that the effort on the packaging lends dignity to the music release. But environmentally I wonder whether a new more minimalist approach would be welcomed on GD boxes.

    Just a thought... Hitting the couch now. Many thanks for the support.

    DMCVT: look for a gray-ish shirt with tiny white dots! Gawd, that was an experience, especially at my age back then.

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What ever happened to Clay V?

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First in the door

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Always nice to skate on a fresh sheet of ice!

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for 44... now where's that announcement for the '60s Bay Area Box?

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What, no seaside chat?

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TBH, I was a little underwhelmed with the previous pick - outside of the Dark Stars and the acoustic stuff, I don't know that it will get much play around these parts. I know it is sacrilege, but late 69/early 70 isn't really my cup of coffee - I often find it too muddy. Also, there have already been 4 other releases from this period... but, for those who love it, rock on!

Summer of 90 is much more up my Brent-loving alley. Granted, we did just get the Deer Creek release from this period, but I am excited for this show with West L.A., Cumberland, Crazy Fingers, and a Playin>UJB>Playin sammie in the showcase spot. AND, we do get that missing 69 Cold Rain and Snow from Vol. 43 - (I hope they tuned their guitars... :)

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Excited for the pick, but these random fillers from different eras are absurd. Looks like there's room on disc 3 for the Help>Slip>Franklins from the next day. That would have been more appropriate.

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Listener whiplash :-). Looking forward to this Oregon ‘90 after the 69 shows.

Seaside chat is located at the Size Chart banner..ok I can dig that.

OTIS..looks like you won’t escape the ‘69 as Dave is tucking in Cold rain and snow from DAP 43 at the end.

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Maybe they think those that enjoyed Dave's 43 will be tempted to buy this for the filler - to complete the show it was dropped from on that set. But it's a big ask if you ain't so keen on 1990.

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....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.

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I'm looking forward to this pick. I've never heard the show but have heard tell of the recording and the show itself over the years. I always focused on spring 1990 and am just hearing these summer shows. This looks great.

Awesome year on Dave's Picks in my book.

I have really enjoyed 43 with the two 69 shows and Bear recordings. Killer in my book. Acoustic set too.

Spring 77 and Winterland 74 on top of that.

The sound quality on this year's picks has been awesome in my opinion. They all have really sweet sound. Great shows as well.

Thanks Dave!!

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If I heard him right Dave inferred that next year's box will not be an anniversary oriented one. Anniversary stuff separate. He may clarify that with the next chat. Vguy, others have said you have to have separate log in credentials now for store? They need to fix that if it's so. Forgot that Lowell George had produced Shakedown. No wonder I like it so much. 6-23-90 is a DAT master. I guess that's good. On the 3-9-81 did anyone else hear the speed was a tiny bit fast early in the show? I know Plangent and Jeffrey Norman take care of that but Jerry and Bob sounded a little chipmunky for the first two songs. Seems to correct later in the set. Maybe they were just younger sounding that day, or I'm still tripping. Hard to tell but I was sure that was a tic-tac and not a microdot.
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A good choice indeed. However I thought DL2 would visit the 80's, I guess the 5 from MSG would've been a bit of 80's overkill.

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Is this part II of Lumpy Gravy??

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I agree, Alan T: It's just weird to drop into a "Cold Rain"from '69 in the midst of 1990 show, I guess a lot of folks are into completeness for the sake of completeness, but I would vote for adding bonus tracks from the same tour (or at least the same era, with the same personnel) when there's a little extra room on the seedy.

But that's a minor gripe about a release I'm very much looking forward to. Have to give props to Dave for DaP 40, which really opened my ears to how good the first half of '90 was. I've got a 45 minute drive ahead of me this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to streaming the listening party.

Last five:
John Coltrane: Blue Train
GOGD: DaP 40
Ray Charles: The Genius Of
Aretha: I've Never Loved a Man ...
ABB: Hittin' the Note

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....this is right in my wheelhouse and just under a month from my first show (Buffalo, July 16th).

I know I've listened to this one in the past but am still looking forward to a pristine official copy in my grubby hands.
I'll take a 15 minute Eyes 2nd set opener any day.

Hope All are Faring Well
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....but if memory serves me correctly, I got the flu or something.
My crew took my ticket and left me behind :(

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things are weirder than normally over there. That glass is cool. cost seem up since last I checked a few items, just a buck or two but still.

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Is the seaside chat not on the website? Got by email but can’t find it

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I can’t find seaside chat even though I clicked through from email?

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Possibly bit out of step ( something I'm not normally known for), but apparently Robert Gordon died earlier today. For those who don't know, Hhe pre-dated The Stray Cats in plugging into the rockabilly source back in 1977 - and the two live albums he cut with Danny Gatton "The Humbler" and "The Real Humbler" are two of the best rock n' roll albums - from any era - that I have ever heard.

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My favorite show of the year, with the Sunday show a close second. Check out the jam in 'Cassidy', and really a hundred other things. Every song is excellent, many are superb. Been wanting this show for years, having to make do with various cassettes and CD-Rs. Here it is, can't wait, perfect show!

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Right below the CD pic. Pale lettering between Product details and Track list.
Combined it with listening parties.
Cheers and enjoy

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The Chat and listener party are Located on the Size Chart button…must be a prankster thing

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This may be my favorite Dave's Pick yet. Awesome show. Epic. A prime example of a top tier show as good as any from any era. Everybodies engaged playing at the absolute top of their game. Even if you tend to avoid the Brent era you should do yourself a favor and give this one a chance. You'll thank me later.

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Please Dave, no more glasses!

Bring back the axe?

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Anyone else get the 3rd man record vault of the primus 7 inch cuts?

Anyone have a digital copy of them?

It's a pretty box. Nice artwork, nice colored vinyl.

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....I see Grateful Shred is playing Seattle on Oct 22nd and 23rd. Heard good things about them.
Dennis. Primus sucks.

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Looking forward to this one. Will Dave receive a recording credit for use of his recording? I am starting to see a trend, the last release of the year for the last three years have been shows Dave attended. Interesting to learn as well that he has no list when he lays out his releases. I did see the Seaside chat on the tube, but I don't see it on this website. Where is it?

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Did Dave get that ultra cool low key hoodie?

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I agree - that’s a very wearable hoodie, Dave L. Unlike most of the other “apparel” for sale on the site, which looks like Lululemon dosed, that hoodie looks pretty fine!
I did find my black “Dave’s Picks” waffle shirt the other day, great for these cooler days, but a hoodie would be sweet.
Spill Dave!

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The sun is in the middle because this was shortly after the summer solstice.

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Hey Joey & Vguy, Maybe that's an ET embryo that the UFO on Dave's 23 (also in Eugene) left behind that has now germinated and is calling the tune.

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As I told Billj yesterday the chat has been grouped with the other things in a line of faint print under the CD pic. It does not have its own box, have to click on it. Not looking at it now but between the Product details and the Track list.
Is the hoodie out of his Dave's Picks line? Couldn't make out the logo.
Cheers and good luck navigating the store.

Not wearable in my book. A hoodie MUST have a zip front for heat/cooling adjustments!

It appeared to have a dead emblem on it. But hell, you're Dave! Could be a one off someone made for him.

Listening party on 44 sounded like a very nice recording.

It'll bring a smile to this face.

Dennis - It could be a one-off hoodie, possible. I’m with you for having a zipper usually, but I’d make an exception for this. Maybe the store can actually make some swag folks will actually wear. Remember those “Astrology” (!!) shirts??? I want friends to take the Dead serious as the great musicians they were/are, not some Age of Aquarius InaGoddaVida collective, but then they produce these shirts!!??

The manager at the art supply store I used to go for supplies was a nice young guy, had all the obligatory hipster tattoos and the super sized earring inset that looked like a small dinner plate. Anyway, we’d invariably chat music, and he was absolutely a Tiger Beat fanboy for Primus. He’d rave about them, and I’d generally just kind of go quiet, not wanting to tell him Primus blows. I think he eventually got the hint, because one time I was in there, he gave me the usual “Why Primus is better than the Beatles or Stones”, then after a long pause where I changed the subject, said “But I get not every one likes them”.
I just smiled, as some things are better not said.

As an aside, this #44 looks like a winner. I’ve always loved “Crazy Fingers”, a somewhat rare treat, so I’m betting this one is a good one.

I'm amazed at all the different types of tee shirts and merchandise you can buy on here.
I notice you can get something described as a "Grateful Dead Puff Recycled Tee Shirt". You'd have to have been a tough cookie to wear something described like that where I grew up.

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I hear you on what you wear ( then). When in high school ( I’m not telling 😄) we used to beat up kids who wore yellow shirts. Now? I’m old most guys here are in their 20’s to 40’s. My job requires a uniform but every couple of months I have to let my freak flag fly Dashikis tie die etc. Trip is the youngsters all say the same thing “ I wish I could get away with that. Did I mention I’m a union man ( helps when management asks me when they changed the uniform “ oh you didn’t get the memo ? Wavy Gravy is our new ceo😄

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What have they done now? I’m signed in ( I’m making this post get gawd’s sake) but every time I try to buy the glass I go to some new page that tells me I don’t exist what have they done now

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Snafu - VGuy mentioned he had a problem the other day, too. Here is what he wrote, and it seemed to work:
“Trying To Order The Glass....
....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.”
Good luck.

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Bill Walton, noted Deadhead and NBA hall of famer, was seated right behind the plate during game one of the Phillies-Padres series, wearing full Padres gear. He's from La Jolla, ya know.

Also, they played Saint of Circumstance AND Fire on the Mountain between innings.

Just felt that like shouldn't go unnoticed. As you were.

PS: Man, that West LA from the listening party is sleee-zee. Almost demonic. You can almost smell the crack smoke in the hallway.

VGuy - I was considering sending up a quasi Bat Signal in the form of your avatar to alert you Snafu - nay, all of Gotham City - needed your help in dealing with the Dead Merchandiser!!!

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