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  • 1stshow70878
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    I love the drama queens. Somebody barely touches them and they go down in a heap looking for the penalty. And when they don't get one the histrionics are laughable. True in other sports too but just more noticeable in soccer. But the US player did get the hardest knee to the crotch I've ever seen. Down for the count. I'm a Messi fan. Dude is unstoppable. Generally would rather watch hockey than futbol or football.
    By the way, where is the Jam of the Week?
    Today's music recommendation: The Golden Gate Quartet doing the spiritual Go Where I Send Thee. Great harmonies!
    Cheers

  • daverock
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    It's not well regarded, but I played this posthumous Hendrix album earlier in the week, and it really hangs together well. Those instrumentals are out of this world. It does seem ridiculous, adding and subtracting instruments decades after the originals were cut - but the end result is pretty good.

    I'd buy a 66-70 box set in a heart beat. If I could work out how you do it - looks a bit trickier these days.

    With the World Cup, as with anything else, I always back the underdog. The more big teams get knocked out the better. As Chuck Berry said - "Such a sight to see/Somebody steal the show". I'm not too keen on the way some of them act after they score a goal, either. That bloke called Grealish qualifies as the most irritating so far.
    All best experienced with the commentary turned down and the music turned up.

  • Oroborous
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    Duuuuudddddeee!

    PF, I’m sorry at your misfortune, but that is too damn funny!
    Think I would have gone somewhere else to keep sleeping and just left it lol.
    Why is it women blame us for these unfortunate anomalies?

    68 Box: hey don’t get me wrong, I’m in anytime, I just wonder if outside of the freak zone bubble we live in, if your average casual fan would be? I agree about all that power etc, in fact, funny story: back when we were basically kids and we’d go to parties, we always got stuck outside by the keg with the heavy metalers. Generally they didn’t dig the dead, but we all knew each other and got along, and both factions appreciated some of the similarities in say culture, and both were proud of our outsider status, and hey, at least we weren’t preppy jocks lol.
    So if we put say, Blues for Allah on, they’d give us shit, BUT, if Anthem ( or they really liked first album!) or some primal Dead was snuck in, they’d often dig it. The first time we played Anthem they couldn’t believe it was the Dead!
    They were like “who’s this, it’s cool?” After we’d tell ‘em who it was, being proud metalers they’d have to feign righteous indignation lol.
    I just wonder out my ass if the repetition and less professional elements would resonate with yer weekend fringe fan?
    Guess part might depend on box size, and part on number of boxes?
    But from inside the freak bubble, I’m sure we’d all like to find out!
    I mean many of “us” would gobble that shit up faster than HST with a fresh tab of acid, but “them”, and you have to consider them, because I don’t think there’s that many of “us”, so that’s the only reason I pondered the idea…

    I still would prefer one big muscular Primal 66 through 70 beast! It would be a good way to put out some of the really early stuff that might be hard to market on its own? Tid bits etc, bits and pieces, short shows, big jams, partials. You could lump all kinds of cool shit together that on their own might not have the clout.
    But in a historical presentation, taking the best stuff from different years, and perhaps weighted more on the back end years, think about it? Say a disc or 2 of 66-67, you could use one disc shows from 68, say three or four shows, throw in a run of 69 from say the Ark, or Avalon, a couple late 69, possibly with some acoustic, and finish it off with similar from 1970!
    Sure it’d be big and expensive, but for the old tops here, besides a killer primal set, maybe they feel they have enough other stuff already and aren’t interested at all in later years? So well then think of it as one last blast of R &R, one final big score of scores! If it’s possibly your last one, why not go big!
    Just a thought…?

    PF, glad you found your way home, and glad your gonna stick around awhile!

    Oh yeah…and what ABOUT Gainesville, tap, tap, tap…

  • proudfoot
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    F'd up bed frame blues

    I woke up dis mo'nin'...

    Got up to..."go down the hall"...at 530 am.

    Bronk! A corner of the bed frame pops loose.

    "No sleep for you!"

    Wife flips out (and a lovely morning to you too, my beloved), I half-awake analyze the situation, spend next 45 minutes fixing things. Soundtrack: Megadeth Rust in Peace.

    Life is strange, gentlemen. Very, very strange.

  • PT Barnum
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    after a trip lost in space I have stumbled my way back to this site. It was a weird trip that would not allow communications with fellow intrepid travelers or home base. Upon my arrival I learn of Christine's untimely death. She had been part of Fleetwood Mac since 1970, was there when Danny Kerwain was in the band, after Peter Green left she was there, she was there when the great guitarist Bob Welch was in the band and she was there when Lindsey and Stevie joined the group. Never a scene stealer, she allowed Lindsey and Stevie to thrive and grow with the band. Always humble her writings were just "little ditties" that she penned that almost always became hits. Never outspoken but always humble she was the epitome of classic rock female musicians. I miss her already.
    I was lucky enough to witness the Mac a couple of times, once in 71 and once again in 74 and then the last time when they all got back together after that long hiatus in 97? She had an awesome stage presence and held her own alongside these great musicians mentioned above. I was never much of a fan of Stevie Nicks, fun to look at back in the day but their music became homogenized in my opinion when they joined. Although I did enjoy the Buckingham/Nicks lp when it came out.
    Daverock, not being a fan of the Mac try the lp Mystery to Me or Bare Trees or Future Games or Heroes or hard to Find. All pre-Lindsey and Stevie. Also, their lps with Peter Green would be right up your alley. Bob Welch passed away a while back, I always thought it was a mistake to fire Bob from the Mac, but I was wrong, they made it big time after he left.
    Jimi turns 80, wow, where has the time gone? I have always wondered what he would be playing and producing now, if he had hung around. Electric Ladyland is still played here, also Cry of Love, an underrated lp, and of course the psychedelic Axis-Bold as Love is a Masterpiece. As later posthumously released music was available, I think he would have gone to experimental blues or jazz aka Miles with a guitar.
    A great anniversary came and went without much mention here, 11-29-80, the Grateful Dead live at Alligator Alley Gym in Gainesville, Fl. The first Shakedown>Franklins tower. A great show that hopefully the soundboard will be found one day.
    Will a box of grate 68 Dead sell? I say yes and put me on the "Buy" side of that vote. Perhaps a poll to see if there is interest?
    Glad you are on the mend HF, sucks not to be well. I mentioned the Petty box a while back, looks great and I will try to pick it up, cost may be prohibitive. Speaking of Petty, Stevie was indoctrinated into the Heartbreakers and played with them a couple of times, she seem a good fit for that band, she can rock, just not my cup of tea.
    Vascular doctor says no operation needed at this time, but we will be watching and waiting as aneurysms don't heal themselves. Dr said that some people have them all their lives and don't even know they have one, found mine when they were doing an ultrasound of my liver.
    Looks like I'll be around for a few more _________(fill in the blank) we never know so live baby, live.

  • Mr. Ones
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    Good band, but not my topic.
    These last few days of posts are my favorite type. Friendly, encouraging, supportive and like……family!!
    I had a cd of the Betty Nelson Raspberry Farm show 20 years ago. Went to play it 2 weeks ago and-disc rot. Arrggghhhh! Would LOVE to see it released.
    My feeling, we have folks who prefer early, primal Dead. We have folks who prefer post ‘77 Dead, and most are probably up for anything. I would be shocked if a ‘68 box didn’t sell out super fast. And if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, well, not much is loved by all (see past discussions). Should not be a big deal.
    I DO agree that the older lot of us (yes, that’s me too) would like to see more early, primal Dead before we leave this beautiful planet.

    Regarding World Cup-there’s only 3 countries that I’ve ever rooted for: US, England, Holland.

    Today, obviously pulling hard for US. If our side loses today, I’ll be for England, then the Dutch.
    After that, I really don’t have a rooting interest, although Japan look disciplined, and fun.

    So, WC starts in less than an hour. After that, it’s music, music, music. Because…

  • daverock
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    Dennis - thanks for the heads up about that Hawkwind album. A recent live recording featuring a selection of new tracks peppered with tracks from the 70's. Looks good. Not sure about the idea of covering Tom Jones "It's Not Unusual", but I guess if you have been touring for over 50 years and are over 80, you can sing what you damn well like.

    Oro - I seemed to miss out on Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac, too. I did get an album by John Mayall, called "Hard Road" that featured him, which was pretty good. I saw him live once, too, about 23 years ago at a blues festival. It felt a bit sad, though.

    I'm a bit surprised people here think 1968 would be hard sell. Maybe it's just a case of - because I like it every once else should too. But of all the various eras and styles of playing - the shows from this year really blow out the fuses like never again. You don't need to know a thing about them to recognise the power. Maybe shows from this year would appeal more to non Deadheads than Deadheads. I think yer average Hawkwind fan, should there be such a beast, would prefer "Anthem" to anything else in the Dead's back catalogue.
    1966 to the first half of 1967 - now that I can imagine being less popular. Interesting, for sure, and historically important..but still formative to my ears.

  • JimInMD
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    I get the feeling not all the shows that circulate are in the vault. Just a feeling.. but I think we would have seen at least another release or two from this year. The last 68 release was 2015, and before that 2009, before that 2001.

    That's Bananas.

  • proudfoot
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    Billy the Kidd strikes again

    If Dave ever retires...BTK needs to be his successor.

  • Oroborous
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    MR PC, glad you didn’t go quitting on us, we need the entertainment (and twisted wisdom ; )
    Glad to see your mind is still moving fast even if your heart needed to slow down lol. JK of course…rest up and be well soon amigo!
    Yassss, puzzling the apparent resistance to 68?
    I agree that an all 68 might not sell so well overall, but I think a primal box of 67-70 would!
    There’d be enough variety in there to attract fence sitters, and it would be a great historical showcase of the rapid transition that took place over those years.

    SMALL BOXES: their ok, I’m just worried if Dave is on the 20 year plan he alludes too, that we need more shows while we can get em, not less! So if small boxes, then perhaps do 2 a year, or 1 big, 1 small…just my two centavos…

    Four Winds blow CM…
    Saw the Mac in 78 when they still sorta ruled the world. Bob Welch, Pablo Cruise, Foreigner and F.M. as the headliner.
    Only went just to go, wasn’t really a fan, but the Mac ended up really surprising my 15 year old melon!
    Will always have a sharp memory of SN and LB playing You Can Go Your Own Way like they ment it more than anything in the world, very intense! Just glaring at each other the whole song! LB, with no pick, was playing his White Les Paul so hard he broke multiple strings!
    By then you could just tell something was up between them even back then as a clueless kid with no internet.
    One of my top R&R moments from my personal history. Think I liked Christine better than Stevie though?

    FUTBALL: I tightened up the homeboys on the job site with a tv the other day so they could watch Mexico during their lunch break. Now I don’t speak espanol, but man those boys were getting into it like any NFL fans I’ve ever seen. Good game from the bit I watched. Don’t get how they won the game but still were out though?

    DAVEROCK: that was too funny about the English team lol.
    I’m surprised you never got into early Mac with Peter Green et el as they were English, late sixties/early seventies and more blues oriented, or right up your alley?

    KUVO, good news there 1st show, only wish they still broadcast up here on FM…used to be my default in the car.

    Howdy DMCVT, yeah dug that Raspberry farm show at POTD via Docs recommendation! Good sheet Mon, more, more, more por favor!
    Happy Friday ladies and germs, hope the white ribbon of death doesn’t shut down before I get home tonight.
    Now that there’s so many people here and many not experienced in mountain winter driving, it seems like the highway shuts down every time it snows, ugghhhh.
    ONWARD!

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What ever happened to Clay V?

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First in the door

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Always nice to skate on a fresh sheet of ice!

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for 44... now where's that announcement for the '60s Bay Area Box?

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What, no seaside chat?

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TBH, I was a little underwhelmed with the previous pick - outside of the Dark Stars and the acoustic stuff, I don't know that it will get much play around these parts. I know it is sacrilege, but late 69/early 70 isn't really my cup of coffee - I often find it too muddy. Also, there have already been 4 other releases from this period... but, for those who love it, rock on!

Summer of 90 is much more up my Brent-loving alley. Granted, we did just get the Deer Creek release from this period, but I am excited for this show with West L.A., Cumberland, Crazy Fingers, and a Playin>UJB>Playin sammie in the showcase spot. AND, we do get that missing 69 Cold Rain and Snow from Vol. 43 - (I hope they tuned their guitars... :)

Peace

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Excited for the pick, but these random fillers from different eras are absurd. Looks like there's room on disc 3 for the Help>Slip>Franklins from the next day. That would have been more appropriate.

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Listener whiplash :-). Looking forward to this Oregon ‘90 after the 69 shows.

Seaside chat is located at the Size Chart banner..ok I can dig that.

OTIS..looks like you won’t escape the ‘69 as Dave is tucking in Cold rain and snow from DAP 43 at the end.

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Maybe they think those that enjoyed Dave's 43 will be tempted to buy this for the filler - to complete the show it was dropped from on that set. But it's a big ask if you ain't so keen on 1990.

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....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.

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I'm looking forward to this pick. I've never heard the show but have heard tell of the recording and the show itself over the years. I always focused on spring 1990 and am just hearing these summer shows. This looks great.

Awesome year on Dave's Picks in my book.

I have really enjoyed 43 with the two 69 shows and Bear recordings. Killer in my book. Acoustic set too.

Spring 77 and Winterland 74 on top of that.

The sound quality on this year's picks has been awesome in my opinion. They all have really sweet sound. Great shows as well.

Thanks Dave!!

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If I heard him right Dave inferred that next year's box will not be an anniversary oriented one. Anniversary stuff separate. He may clarify that with the next chat. Vguy, others have said you have to have separate log in credentials now for store? They need to fix that if it's so. Forgot that Lowell George had produced Shakedown. No wonder I like it so much. 6-23-90 is a DAT master. I guess that's good. On the 3-9-81 did anyone else hear the speed was a tiny bit fast early in the show? I know Plangent and Jeffrey Norman take care of that but Jerry and Bob sounded a little chipmunky for the first two songs. Seems to correct later in the set. Maybe they were just younger sounding that day, or I'm still tripping. Hard to tell but I was sure that was a tic-tac and not a microdot.
Cheers

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A good choice indeed. However I thought DL2 would visit the 80's, I guess the 5 from MSG would've been a bit of 80's overkill.

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Is this part II of Lumpy Gravy??

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I agree, Alan T: It's just weird to drop into a "Cold Rain"from '69 in the midst of 1990 show, I guess a lot of folks are into completeness for the sake of completeness, but I would vote for adding bonus tracks from the same tour (or at least the same era, with the same personnel) when there's a little extra room on the seedy.

But that's a minor gripe about a release I'm very much looking forward to. Have to give props to Dave for DaP 40, which really opened my ears to how good the first half of '90 was. I've got a 45 minute drive ahead of me this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to streaming the listening party.

Last five:
John Coltrane: Blue Train
GOGD: DaP 40
Ray Charles: The Genius Of
Aretha: I've Never Loved a Man ...
ABB: Hittin' the Note

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....this is right in my wheelhouse and just under a month from my first show (Buffalo, July 16th).

I know I've listened to this one in the past but am still looking forward to a pristine official copy in my grubby hands.
I'll take a 15 minute Eyes 2nd set opener any day.

Hope All are Faring Well
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....but if memory serves me correctly, I got the flu or something.
My crew took my ticket and left me behind :(

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things are weirder than normally over there. That glass is cool. cost seem up since last I checked a few items, just a buck or two but still.

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Is the seaside chat not on the website? Got by email but can’t find it

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I can’t find seaside chat even though I clicked through from email?

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Possibly bit out of step ( something I'm not normally known for), but apparently Robert Gordon died earlier today. For those who don't know, Hhe pre-dated The Stray Cats in plugging into the rockabilly source back in 1977 - and the two live albums he cut with Danny Gatton "The Humbler" and "The Real Humbler" are two of the best rock n' roll albums - from any era - that I have ever heard.

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My favorite show of the year, with the Sunday show a close second. Check out the jam in 'Cassidy', and really a hundred other things. Every song is excellent, many are superb. Been wanting this show for years, having to make do with various cassettes and CD-Rs. Here it is, can't wait, perfect show!

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Right below the CD pic. Pale lettering between Product details and Track list.
Combined it with listening parties.
Cheers and enjoy

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The Chat and listener party are Located on the Size Chart button…must be a prankster thing

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This may be my favorite Dave's Pick yet. Awesome show. Epic. A prime example of a top tier show as good as any from any era. Everybodies engaged playing at the absolute top of their game. Even if you tend to avoid the Brent era you should do yourself a favor and give this one a chance. You'll thank me later.

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Please Dave, no more glasses!

Bring back the axe?

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Anyone else get the 3rd man record vault of the primus 7 inch cuts?

Anyone have a digital copy of them?

It's a pretty box. Nice artwork, nice colored vinyl.

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....I see Grateful Shred is playing Seattle on Oct 22nd and 23rd. Heard good things about them.
Dennis. Primus sucks.

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Looking forward to this one. Will Dave receive a recording credit for use of his recording? I am starting to see a trend, the last release of the year for the last three years have been shows Dave attended. Interesting to learn as well that he has no list when he lays out his releases. I did see the Seaside chat on the tube, but I don't see it on this website. Where is it?

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Did Dave get that ultra cool low key hoodie?

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I agree - that’s a very wearable hoodie, Dave L. Unlike most of the other “apparel” for sale on the site, which looks like Lululemon dosed, that hoodie looks pretty fine!
I did find my black “Dave’s Picks” waffle shirt the other day, great for these cooler days, but a hoodie would be sweet.
Spill Dave!

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The sun is in the middle because this was shortly after the summer solstice.

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Hey Joey & Vguy, Maybe that's an ET embryo that the UFO on Dave's 23 (also in Eugene) left behind that has now germinated and is calling the tune.

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As I told Billj yesterday the chat has been grouped with the other things in a line of faint print under the CD pic. It does not have its own box, have to click on it. Not looking at it now but between the Product details and the Track list.
Is the hoodie out of his Dave's Picks line? Couldn't make out the logo.
Cheers and good luck navigating the store.

Not wearable in my book. A hoodie MUST have a zip front for heat/cooling adjustments!

It appeared to have a dead emblem on it. But hell, you're Dave! Could be a one off someone made for him.

Listening party on 44 sounded like a very nice recording.

It'll bring a smile to this face.

Dennis - It could be a one-off hoodie, possible. I’m with you for having a zipper usually, but I’d make an exception for this. Maybe the store can actually make some swag folks will actually wear. Remember those “Astrology” (!!) shirts??? I want friends to take the Dead serious as the great musicians they were/are, not some Age of Aquarius InaGoddaVida collective, but then they produce these shirts!!??

The manager at the art supply store I used to go for supplies was a nice young guy, had all the obligatory hipster tattoos and the super sized earring inset that looked like a small dinner plate. Anyway, we’d invariably chat music, and he was absolutely a Tiger Beat fanboy for Primus. He’d rave about them, and I’d generally just kind of go quiet, not wanting to tell him Primus blows. I think he eventually got the hint, because one time I was in there, he gave me the usual “Why Primus is better than the Beatles or Stones”, then after a long pause where I changed the subject, said “But I get not every one likes them”.
I just smiled, as some things are better not said.

As an aside, this #44 looks like a winner. I’ve always loved “Crazy Fingers”, a somewhat rare treat, so I’m betting this one is a good one.

I'm amazed at all the different types of tee shirts and merchandise you can buy on here.
I notice you can get something described as a "Grateful Dead Puff Recycled Tee Shirt". You'd have to have been a tough cookie to wear something described like that where I grew up.

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I hear you on what you wear ( then). When in high school ( I’m not telling 😄) we used to beat up kids who wore yellow shirts. Now? I’m old most guys here are in their 20’s to 40’s. My job requires a uniform but every couple of months I have to let my freak flag fly Dashikis tie die etc. Trip is the youngsters all say the same thing “ I wish I could get away with that. Did I mention I’m a union man ( helps when management asks me when they changed the uniform “ oh you didn’t get the memo ? Wavy Gravy is our new ceo😄

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What have they done now? I’m signed in ( I’m making this post get gawd’s sake) but every time I try to buy the glass I go to some new page that tells me I don’t exist what have they done now

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Snafu - VGuy mentioned he had a problem the other day, too. Here is what he wrote, and it seemed to work:
“Trying To Order The Glass....
....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.”
Good luck.

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Bill Walton, noted Deadhead and NBA hall of famer, was seated right behind the plate during game one of the Phillies-Padres series, wearing full Padres gear. He's from La Jolla, ya know.

Also, they played Saint of Circumstance AND Fire on the Mountain between innings.

Just felt that like shouldn't go unnoticed. As you were.

PS: Man, that West LA from the listening party is sleee-zee. Almost demonic. You can almost smell the crack smoke in the hallway.

VGuy - I was considering sending up a quasi Bat Signal in the form of your avatar to alert you Snafu - nay, all of Gotham City - needed your help in dealing with the Dead Merchandiser!!!

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