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  • 1stshow70878
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    I love the drama queens. Somebody barely touches them and they go down in a heap looking for the penalty. And when they don't get one the histrionics are laughable. True in other sports too but just more noticeable in soccer. But the US player did get the hardest knee to the crotch I've ever seen. Down for the count. I'm a Messi fan. Dude is unstoppable. Generally would rather watch hockey than futbol or football.
    By the way, where is the Jam of the Week?
    Today's music recommendation: The Golden Gate Quartet doing the spiritual Go Where I Send Thee. Great harmonies!
    Cheers

  • daverock
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    It's not well regarded, but I played this posthumous Hendrix album earlier in the week, and it really hangs together well. Those instrumentals are out of this world. It does seem ridiculous, adding and subtracting instruments decades after the originals were cut - but the end result is pretty good.

    I'd buy a 66-70 box set in a heart beat. If I could work out how you do it - looks a bit trickier these days.

    With the World Cup, as with anything else, I always back the underdog. The more big teams get knocked out the better. As Chuck Berry said - "Such a sight to see/Somebody steal the show". I'm not too keen on the way some of them act after they score a goal, either. That bloke called Grealish qualifies as the most irritating so far.
    All best experienced with the commentary turned down and the music turned up.

  • Oroborous
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    Duuuuudddddeee!

    PF, I’m sorry at your misfortune, but that is too damn funny!
    Think I would have gone somewhere else to keep sleeping and just left it lol.
    Why is it women blame us for these unfortunate anomalies?

    68 Box: hey don’t get me wrong, I’m in anytime, I just wonder if outside of the freak zone bubble we live in, if your average casual fan would be? I agree about all that power etc, in fact, funny story: back when we were basically kids and we’d go to parties, we always got stuck outside by the keg with the heavy metalers. Generally they didn’t dig the dead, but we all knew each other and got along, and both factions appreciated some of the similarities in say culture, and both were proud of our outsider status, and hey, at least we weren’t preppy jocks lol.
    So if we put say, Blues for Allah on, they’d give us shit, BUT, if Anthem ( or they really liked first album!) or some primal Dead was snuck in, they’d often dig it. The first time we played Anthem they couldn’t believe it was the Dead!
    They were like “who’s this, it’s cool?” After we’d tell ‘em who it was, being proud metalers they’d have to feign righteous indignation lol.
    I just wonder out my ass if the repetition and less professional elements would resonate with yer weekend fringe fan?
    Guess part might depend on box size, and part on number of boxes?
    But from inside the freak bubble, I’m sure we’d all like to find out!
    I mean many of “us” would gobble that shit up faster than HST with a fresh tab of acid, but “them”, and you have to consider them, because I don’t think there’s that many of “us”, so that’s the only reason I pondered the idea…

    I still would prefer one big muscular Primal 66 through 70 beast! It would be a good way to put out some of the really early stuff that might be hard to market on its own? Tid bits etc, bits and pieces, short shows, big jams, partials. You could lump all kinds of cool shit together that on their own might not have the clout.
    But in a historical presentation, taking the best stuff from different years, and perhaps weighted more on the back end years, think about it? Say a disc or 2 of 66-67, you could use one disc shows from 68, say three or four shows, throw in a run of 69 from say the Ark, or Avalon, a couple late 69, possibly with some acoustic, and finish it off with similar from 1970!
    Sure it’d be big and expensive, but for the old tops here, besides a killer primal set, maybe they feel they have enough other stuff already and aren’t interested at all in later years? So well then think of it as one last blast of R &R, one final big score of scores! If it’s possibly your last one, why not go big!
    Just a thought…?

    PF, glad you found your way home, and glad your gonna stick around awhile!

    Oh yeah…and what ABOUT Gainesville, tap, tap, tap…

  • proudfoot
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    F'd up bed frame blues

    I woke up dis mo'nin'...

    Got up to..."go down the hall"...at 530 am.

    Bronk! A corner of the bed frame pops loose.

    "No sleep for you!"

    Wife flips out (and a lovely morning to you too, my beloved), I half-awake analyze the situation, spend next 45 minutes fixing things. Soundtrack: Megadeth Rust in Peace.

    Life is strange, gentlemen. Very, very strange.

  • PT Barnum
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    after a trip lost in space I have stumbled my way back to this site. It was a weird trip that would not allow communications with fellow intrepid travelers or home base. Upon my arrival I learn of Christine's untimely death. She had been part of Fleetwood Mac since 1970, was there when Danny Kerwain was in the band, after Peter Green left she was there, she was there when the great guitarist Bob Welch was in the band and she was there when Lindsey and Stevie joined the group. Never a scene stealer, she allowed Lindsey and Stevie to thrive and grow with the band. Always humble her writings were just "little ditties" that she penned that almost always became hits. Never outspoken but always humble she was the epitome of classic rock female musicians. I miss her already.
    I was lucky enough to witness the Mac a couple of times, once in 71 and once again in 74 and then the last time when they all got back together after that long hiatus in 97? She had an awesome stage presence and held her own alongside these great musicians mentioned above. I was never much of a fan of Stevie Nicks, fun to look at back in the day but their music became homogenized in my opinion when they joined. Although I did enjoy the Buckingham/Nicks lp when it came out.
    Daverock, not being a fan of the Mac try the lp Mystery to Me or Bare Trees or Future Games or Heroes or hard to Find. All pre-Lindsey and Stevie. Also, their lps with Peter Green would be right up your alley. Bob Welch passed away a while back, I always thought it was a mistake to fire Bob from the Mac, but I was wrong, they made it big time after he left.
    Jimi turns 80, wow, where has the time gone? I have always wondered what he would be playing and producing now, if he had hung around. Electric Ladyland is still played here, also Cry of Love, an underrated lp, and of course the psychedelic Axis-Bold as Love is a Masterpiece. As later posthumously released music was available, I think he would have gone to experimental blues or jazz aka Miles with a guitar.
    A great anniversary came and went without much mention here, 11-29-80, the Grateful Dead live at Alligator Alley Gym in Gainesville, Fl. The first Shakedown>Franklins tower. A great show that hopefully the soundboard will be found one day.
    Will a box of grate 68 Dead sell? I say yes and put me on the "Buy" side of that vote. Perhaps a poll to see if there is interest?
    Glad you are on the mend HF, sucks not to be well. I mentioned the Petty box a while back, looks great and I will try to pick it up, cost may be prohibitive. Speaking of Petty, Stevie was indoctrinated into the Heartbreakers and played with them a couple of times, she seem a good fit for that band, she can rock, just not my cup of tea.
    Vascular doctor says no operation needed at this time, but we will be watching and waiting as aneurysms don't heal themselves. Dr said that some people have them all their lives and don't even know they have one, found mine when they were doing an ultrasound of my liver.
    Looks like I'll be around for a few more _________(fill in the blank) we never know so live baby, live.

  • Mr. Ones
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    Good band, but not my topic.
    These last few days of posts are my favorite type. Friendly, encouraging, supportive and like……family!!
    I had a cd of the Betty Nelson Raspberry Farm show 20 years ago. Went to play it 2 weeks ago and-disc rot. Arrggghhhh! Would LOVE to see it released.
    My feeling, we have folks who prefer early, primal Dead. We have folks who prefer post ‘77 Dead, and most are probably up for anything. I would be shocked if a ‘68 box didn’t sell out super fast. And if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, well, not much is loved by all (see past discussions). Should not be a big deal.
    I DO agree that the older lot of us (yes, that’s me too) would like to see more early, primal Dead before we leave this beautiful planet.

    Regarding World Cup-there’s only 3 countries that I’ve ever rooted for: US, England, Holland.

    Today, obviously pulling hard for US. If our side loses today, I’ll be for England, then the Dutch.
    After that, I really don’t have a rooting interest, although Japan look disciplined, and fun.

    So, WC starts in less than an hour. After that, it’s music, music, music. Because…

  • daverock
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    Dennis - thanks for the heads up about that Hawkwind album. A recent live recording featuring a selection of new tracks peppered with tracks from the 70's. Looks good. Not sure about the idea of covering Tom Jones "It's Not Unusual", but I guess if you have been touring for over 50 years and are over 80, you can sing what you damn well like.

    Oro - I seemed to miss out on Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac, too. I did get an album by John Mayall, called "Hard Road" that featured him, which was pretty good. I saw him live once, too, about 23 years ago at a blues festival. It felt a bit sad, though.

    I'm a bit surprised people here think 1968 would be hard sell. Maybe it's just a case of - because I like it every once else should too. But of all the various eras and styles of playing - the shows from this year really blow out the fuses like never again. You don't need to know a thing about them to recognise the power. Maybe shows from this year would appeal more to non Deadheads than Deadheads. I think yer average Hawkwind fan, should there be such a beast, would prefer "Anthem" to anything else in the Dead's back catalogue.
    1966 to the first half of 1967 - now that I can imagine being less popular. Interesting, for sure, and historically important..but still formative to my ears.

  • JimInMD
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    I get the feeling not all the shows that circulate are in the vault. Just a feeling.. but I think we would have seen at least another release or two from this year. The last 68 release was 2015, and before that 2009, before that 2001.

    That's Bananas.

  • proudfoot
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    Billy the Kidd strikes again

    If Dave ever retires...BTK needs to be his successor.

  • Oroborous
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    MR PC, glad you didn’t go quitting on us, we need the entertainment (and twisted wisdom ; )
    Glad to see your mind is still moving fast even if your heart needed to slow down lol. JK of course…rest up and be well soon amigo!
    Yassss, puzzling the apparent resistance to 68?
    I agree that an all 68 might not sell so well overall, but I think a primal box of 67-70 would!
    There’d be enough variety in there to attract fence sitters, and it would be a great historical showcase of the rapid transition that took place over those years.

    SMALL BOXES: their ok, I’m just worried if Dave is on the 20 year plan he alludes too, that we need more shows while we can get em, not less! So if small boxes, then perhaps do 2 a year, or 1 big, 1 small…just my two centavos…

    Four Winds blow CM…
    Saw the Mac in 78 when they still sorta ruled the world. Bob Welch, Pablo Cruise, Foreigner and F.M. as the headliner.
    Only went just to go, wasn’t really a fan, but the Mac ended up really surprising my 15 year old melon!
    Will always have a sharp memory of SN and LB playing You Can Go Your Own Way like they ment it more than anything in the world, very intense! Just glaring at each other the whole song! LB, with no pick, was playing his White Les Paul so hard he broke multiple strings!
    By then you could just tell something was up between them even back then as a clueless kid with no internet.
    One of my top R&R moments from my personal history. Think I liked Christine better than Stevie though?

    FUTBALL: I tightened up the homeboys on the job site with a tv the other day so they could watch Mexico during their lunch break. Now I don’t speak espanol, but man those boys were getting into it like any NFL fans I’ve ever seen. Good game from the bit I watched. Don’t get how they won the game but still were out though?

    DAVEROCK: that was too funny about the English team lol.
    I’m surprised you never got into early Mac with Peter Green et el as they were English, late sixties/early seventies and more blues oriented, or right up your alley?

    KUVO, good news there 1st show, only wish they still broadcast up here on FM…used to be my default in the car.

    Howdy DMCVT, yeah dug that Raspberry farm show at POTD via Docs recommendation! Good sheet Mon, more, more, more por favor!
    Happy Friday ladies and germs, hope the white ribbon of death doesn’t shut down before I get home tonight.
    Now that there’s so many people here and many not experienced in mountain winter driving, it seems like the highway shuts down every time it snows, ugghhhh.
    ONWARD!

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....I changed it again because I just found this and I couldn't resist.

That’s definitely what I thought on 3-27-94 when they were opening for Rush.
I came for Rush, Primus needed to get off the stage.
Yes, they played Jerry Was A Race Car Driver.
I wasn’t impressed.

That was a nice hoodie Dave was wearing.

Hah, ET embryo in Eugene.
Not only just after the solstice, but Dave said that the show ended around 5 pm.

Rhino should release the Little Feat opening sets as a companion release.

Dave said a Box next year and a studio album anniversary release. I didn’t hear him say that the Box would not be a 1973 anniversary as was stated in a previous post (don’t remember by who).

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Who ever wrote the description for DP 44? It’s obvious who ever did is a fool when they wrote that 6/23/90 was one of their longest performances. Such complete utter misinformed information. The second set is around 90 minutes. Whatever. Attending these 2 shows was well worth the drive.

....I think they meant for 1990. But that has to be by maybe a couple of minutes. And no. I'm not gonna research it.
Aaaand, conekid is an official fan club card carrier lol.
This day in Dead lore, Keith played his first show with the band. 51 years ago.
Digging out my Dave's 3. Disc 3 has a Dark Star 🌟
"Thank you sports fans!" What happened that day in sports history? 10.21.71.
I see the Pirates won the WS, but that was on the 17th. Must be a Chicago thing.
Liner notes by Blair Jackson doesn't mention it. Some help here....

Snafu - I'm not sure wearing a tee shirt with teddy bears on would have gone down too well back then, either. Not that there is anything wrong with wearing such a shirt, of course. Maybe not for every occasion.

I think I'm glad I've never heard of Primus.

I have created a new account on the store so that I should be able to make future orders. However, I can no longer look at my previous order history. I have tried the ‘Check without being registered’ but that requires order number, email and zip code. I enter these, using my post code since we don’t have a zip code, and an error message appears telling me that the combination of the three items isn’t recognised. Once again, for the third time, my order history has become inaccessible. Let’s hope the ordering process has been improved at least.

I have heard of Primus but have never heard anything by them so I’ll refrain from commenting on them.

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Colin-go on...put the boot in. It's a bit of a poor do if we can't be unreasonable at this stage of the game !

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I thought It said somewhere that you can't see your older order history, after the update.
Since creating a new store account, I ordered a sweatshirt 2 weeks ago, and nothing, no shipping notice, nothing in two weeks. I can not overstate how much i dislike this store.

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are subtle. He's smart enough not to give it away too early.
What I heard was what I wanted to hear, and am hoping for.
That there MAY be a box for both an anniversary and another.
More boxes please and maybe some I can afford like a mini.
Cheers

Edit: I'm trippin' again. To my ear 3-9-81 sounds a tiny bit fast. Played it on two different CD players. Is it possible Plangent didn't fix all of the speed issues associated with cassette decks? A great show nonetheless. That deep drum on the Drums is shaking my floor! Love it.

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Bobby's "Ace" just got the 50th Anniversary Treatment. What about Jerry's "Garcia"? It was released about 2 months after "ACE" in July 1972. However, except for Bill sitting in, "Garcia" is truly a solo effort, so does that disqualify it from getting a 50th remastered new mix?

(Crap-cha seems to have gotten more bitchy of late.)

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....just checked out their album Zonkey. Holy shit! This is the best thing ever! All incredible mash-up covers. I mean. An Electric Avenue/Highway To Hell mash-up?? Ace Of Spades/Its Going To Be
A Long Night by Ween? Genius.
That seals it. Just bought tix to see them in February.

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And I use that term loosely... with a nod to any women who may be lurking but are put off (to say the least) by our tendency to rave unconscionably (sp?)....

Hey, I met Oro -- the Colorado Oro -- yesterday! I was hammering west across Colorado (with good, if diverse intentions) and stopped in Eagle to deliver my Band of Gypsys box from my coveted collection to a complete stranger... But no! It was Oro, aka Pedro, who we all know and love from his shall we say voluminous correspondence. A man a bit difficult to pin down, as events unfolded, that sunny day (24 hrs ago).

I'm happy to report -- and no doubt he'll spread some greasy rumors about me... -- that our local Colorado "Oro" is a fine gentleman and -- instead of "dyed in the wool" can we advance to something more like "soaked in a vat of whatever we all been soaking in for the last 50 years" Deadhead? I mean, his hour-long narrative of GD shows experienced had me dizzy... (but I digress).

Tryin' to say through the Indica and Jameson that Colorado Oro is a righteous brother and I HOPE HE MAILS ME BACK BY BoG BOX!!!! I mean, I met the cat in the parking lot of Eagle, Colo.'s largest liquor store, which was our fallback position, and he never took his shades off.......... But he did say that he wants to go to Las Vegas to meet some of you, including the now infamous Vguy and anyone else who wants to say goodbye to a settled life. (Basically, we're talking a regional conference of people who can no longer take their shades off for physiological reasons.)

But I'd say this: there are actual people behind the avatars displayed here. And some of them seem to be pretty fine citizens.

Reporting in, HF

Got home tonight and found mail from experience vinyl. They are offering a redo of "Garcia". A 2 lp set with second lp being out takes. I believe the vinyl will be gold. I read nothing about a remastering.

But odd you should just ask,,,, and there it was!

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44 years ago tonight I was at Winterland for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. What a blast; I hope they release this whole run as a box set . Fun times!

....you are blessed 🙌 to have seen so many awesome bay area shows. Jealous.
Golden Knights won 5-2. Scored two or more goals in the 1st period. That means two free Taco Bell tacos all day tomorrow if you show your ticket. 🌮

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DaveRock - Dylan is currently touring Europe and the UK, and I wondered if yourself or any friends may have caught a recent show, or are his shows being covered in the press at all?

I’m just curious how he is sounding this tour? He always brings a great band, so I’m expecting that is still the case.

I always try and make a point to see him if he plays nearby. One of the best songwriters Garcia ever sourced.

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Good to hear you are out moving around Hendrixfreak. What was in your Gypsy box?

Looking forward to #44.
We should know #45 within the next couple of weeks. Maybe Dave will open the year with Kezar or Maples Pavilion?

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Amazon has it for pre order 44 bucks. Says "limited", but not how many. Gold vinyl.

I bit. But I'm worth it! If not me, who? If not now, when?

Money in the bank, right?

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Thanks Dennis. Forgot how pristine and tight "Garcia" is. With the rest of the Dead sitting this one out except for Bill on drums, and Jerry playing/singing everything, it's almost like an "unplugged" performance. His pedal steel on the Wheel is ethereal. Also looking forward to the Alternate Takes on the second LP. Onward.

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Oro - If you are perusing the boards today, please check your PM.

Dennis - Since you have the wallet out, Vinyl Me, Please is offering Miles Davis’ “Star People” on vinyl. IMHO, this was one of MD’s better late career releases, and features John Scofield and Mike Stern on guitars. See the MD website for a L-I-N-K to Vinyl Me, Please.

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Thatmike - no sadly, I missed out. A few months ago, when the tickets went on sale, I spent ages looking at the prices, trying to decide where to sit, which night to go on, who to buy the ticket off...and it literally sold out before my eyes while I was mucking about! I don't know where my head was at that morning.
I'll keep a lookout at the the music papers and see how the shows are reviewed. I have only actually seen Dylan once - 2017, I think. Chances of me seeing him again aren't looking too good !

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Can't find a track list online; I'm wondering if the outtakes are the same ones that were included a few years ago in the Jerry box set, 8 outtakes altogether.

They appear to be the same tracks as that jerry box set (beyond description),,,, but they're on cd, not limited edition GOLD vinyl!!!

Come on now,,,,, GOLD VINYL!

Can't spell gold without god

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Thanks Dave. I was just curious how his 80+ something croaky voice is holding up. I think his tour poster on his site states 2021-2024, so I’m guessing he is trying to get to every place he can at least once before he hangs it up. The guy is 81. I don’t think either one of my grandfathers even saw age 80.
Thanks again, Amigo!

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Ordered the vinyl AND joined the vinyl of the month club (cancel any time)

Ordered the cd, used for 12 bucks from amazon.

Was surprised I didn't have this in stock. Interesting reviews seem to concur with you about John Scofield and Mike Stern being the star of the show.

It's coming,,, thanks for heads up. I've said it before and will repeat. One of the great things about this site is people pointing out "things" that have come out. You can't watch it all, nice to have extra eyes.

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44 years ago today - the windup at the end of The Other One and the Stella Blue are forever etched in my brain.
I assume Billy and Nitecat were there as well. Magical Mistery Tour(if my memory serves me well...) and east coast vs west coast volleyball game prior to the show(or was it Dead crew vs. Bill Graham's crew??)
The band was LOUD, with Jerry louder than everybody else, just the way it should be!

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RTs Volume 1 #4 a most appropriate show to listen to on its anniversary. This whole run needs to be Normanized.

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Who you calling a fine citizen and a gentleman!
Why I outta!

So yaaasssss, after a ridiculous chaotic fluid morning, I was fortunately able to rendezvous for a fine enjoyable meeting with the multi talented senior Freak, (much too brief but his patience was appreciated considering his agenda etc) after, all was well, until…? Until I say that dark and stormy night
(“ Stooooorrrmmmmyyyy”), ahem wrong rabbit hole.
Until about an hour later, which is around the last I remember, for approximately 48 hours—though I have weird reoccurring flashbacks of running with the pack, and scratching my ear with my foot—until I woke up naked and alone and an unbelievable urge to howl? Strange occurrences in the mountains indeed!
But long short, Senior is even much more than shines through from his posts.
Oh, and generous beyond comprehensive. I did him one small act of kindness without expectation of any return, and well, his gifts, ahem shocked me!
Oh, love the HF album: The Sagebrush Bohemians Let’s Smooth It. Check it out!
Modern Dylan like influences, with often fun songs, good arrangements, and great sound!
A writer, field nut, science freak, connoisseur of much, singer/songwriter, AND an all around GOGD brastafarian!
Mucho Garcia’s!

Oh, don’t worry, your children are fine and will be returned home shortly once we’re done having are way with them lol.
More on this and others whom require individual correspondence just as soon as they get these elephants off the stage…
Now if I could just stop scratching my ear with my foot?

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....don't get me wrong, but HF mentioned a Vegas road trip.
Don't think for a minute I didn't catch that little nugget of potential intel.
There is no autumn here. Going from 85 degrees today to 68 on Sunday. Major cold front heading our way. 60 mph wind gusts tomorrow.
Buckle up buttercup. (That's to myself. Thin blood and stuff).
And before y'all laugh at me in "Dude, really?", keep in mind, I was born and raised here. 🍻 When it gets under sixty degrees, I bundle up big time and make hot toddies.

Relax, it’s only gibberish, but…but I say, I say, if and when we ever make it back to the great city of Lost Wages, it would be our honor and pleasure to buy you and your lovely other a beer if not dinner!
It’s just really nice to actually meet someone from our kind little universe here!
And like the real world certain diamonds shine brighter!

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My order is on the way! UPS are aware of the packages existence.
Mail Innovations this time so I’m not expecting to see it too soon, but it’s nice to know the process has been initiated. Now back to your regular ‘Meet up at the casinos’ programme:))

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44 years ago tonight, I was at Winterland ( along with Cousins and alot of other great folks who post on this forum) for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. Hopefully, this whole run will be released as a box set one day. They could combine it with the March 77 shows and have one hell of a box set. Fun times for sure.

It would be great if this run was released as a box.
I was thinking this morning if there would be any value in releasing runs of shows without all the paraphernalia. The boxes do look good, and I enjoy reading the articles in the books...but if they cut down on all that, maybe they would be able to release more shows in box sets. Less extravagant ones. They are only released on deadnet - not general release, so I am sure we all know the background to shows already - or can look them up in Deadbase or online. For example-I would think we all know the background to the October 78 Winterland run - they could just release the shows on cd/download - or vinyl, without the extras - and it would still sell like hotcakes. Just a thought.

Dave Rock
They don’t get nominated for a Grammy if they don’t make the box look pretty:))
Yes, I’d be happy with simpler formats and more music.

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Colin - looking at what you have just posted on the 17cd section - maybe the international postage charges wouldn't be be so much if the boxes were a bit smaller.

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According to Music Direct, the tracks are:
1. Sugaree ( Alternative Take)
2. Loser ( Alternative Take)
3. Late For Supper/ Spidergawd/ Eep Hour ( Alternative Take)
4. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 1)
5. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 2)
6. Study for "Eep Hour"
7. Dealing From the Bottom (Studio Jam)
8.Study for "The Wheel"

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I would be on the MSG Box thread, but it looks like it's kaput.
I know the MSG '81 shows, and I think disc 1 from 3/10 is fast.
Tempted to bust out my cassettes from storage...will have to fire up the old TEAC W-6000R.
Firing up disc 2 from 9/20/82 in 3...2...1...

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