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  • tree1270
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    No liner notes in my DaP 44

    Hey now ~ received my DaP copy 16302/25000 and it did not have liner notes enclosed. That is a first. I understand that they should be enclosed according to Daves YouTube update and vaguely in the CD description. Has anyone else had this issue? I contacted customer service and am waiting on a resolution. Fingers crossed.

  • Vguy72
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    Jerry in the '90's....

    ....all I know, is that when we saw a show from a new tour, speculation was always, "will it be a somewhat healthy Garcia or the other one."
    His weight was all over the place.
    As we sat on the knoll outside of Shoreline after the last '95 show, we all thought that this may be the last time we get to see him.
    On the plus side, winter warmer beers are arriving!
    Finishing up disc 3 of Autzen. The Wheel into Miracle was neat.

  • Colin Gould
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    Finally

    Two weeks after getting the initial message telling me my order is on the way UPS tell me they have the item in Fontana. At least it’s started the journey.

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Well, I Met #7859 Intentionally, in Saint Paul, Minnesota

    Arrived yesterday, but I didn't have time to listen, as Dark Star Orchestra were in town last night at First Avenue. Unfortunately they played a hodge-podge show with almost no "classic" GD songs! :( They played lots of once-in-a-blue-moon covers that the Dead played, plus Liberty, Corrina, and a seemingly-interminable Drums. I had a friend along who is getting into the GD, and I had to keep explaining that what they were doing was not at ALL like a GD show. It was the oddest set list I've ever come across while attending DSO shows. There was even a Low Spark that almost crawled to a stop at times, which I guess is true to GD form (from certain tours), as in when Althea or West L.A. occasionally slowed to the point of almost stopping! :)

    Got the subscription and the calendar, so now I've got to get myself back to the Gar-a--ar-den (box), the second set of GarciaLive 19, and DaP44!

    Be kind, rewind. Then vote for kindness.

  • nitecat
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    Oro, thanks

    Oro, thanks for the kind words on my anniversary. I enjoy reading your posts. Truth be known, I enjoy reading most everyone's posts on these forums. Music IS the best!

  • 1stshow70878
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    Kimock

    Still my favorite for nailing Jerry's sound. Would be a great show to see.
    I have a friend who when he got a custom Alembic sounds remarkably like Jerry. Guy is so good but hardly ever plays.
    Jimmy Herring was the only "replacement" I got to see post-'95.
    Cheers

  • dmcvt
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    44, Jerry, Kimock

    Must fess up, being a first and second era kind of fan, have enjoyed 44 and though I may not pull it from the shelf much later on, dug the laid back sunny afternoon in the NW vibe that permeates an excellent recording. Maybe a touch too much reverb drench on Looks Like Rain. Remarks here reminded of David Grisman's story of meeting Jerry for the first time when they crossed paths looking for Bill Monroe at a bluegrass festival in PA in 1964. There are a few revealing moments in the Grateful Dawg film where one can tell Jerry is so totally relaxed and enjoying himself at Grismans house... when did Jerry get to play banjo or lap steel with the Dead? There was a lot going on with the latter era Dead, as been said, so many expectations, the big stage et al. Live jazz tonight, Paul Asbell's group with Gabe Jarrett on drums (son of the famous pianist) and bonus, a few minutes ago, scored a front row seat for Steve Kimock Zero at the Flying Monkey tomorrow night. Music is The Best!

  • FiveBranch
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    The mysteriously placed sun in the artwork reminds me of the Kugelblitz at the center of season 3 of The Umbrella Academy. Whether the the deadheads are naively summoning its arrival, using the power of dance to capture its cataclysmic energy or happen to be enjoying their newly found freedom of life as post-apocalyptic skeletons, who's to say. Its all up for personal interpretation. But I think there's a clue in the bottom right corner. Curiouser and curiouser!

    On with the listen.....

  • Crow Told Me
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    My DaP 44 arrived Wednesday, just 5 days after the release date, and I think that’s the world record. Usually they get to me 10-14 days later. Weird that I never got any tracking info, but hey, here it is! And it’s really good. Like Vguy, I gave it a spin with the world series on mute (goddam Trashtros!) and really enjoyed it.

    I think I’ll always prefer the early ‘70s to everything else. I could just go and live in 1973, as Dick Latvala once said. But I’ve come to realize there are good shows to be found in every era, and the “Late Brent Era” had some gems, as DaP 40 and 44 demonstrate. Definitely a unique vibe to this Oregon show: kind of laid back, from start to finish, but everybody sounds engaged, and the audio's good so you can really hear the whole band. It’s a whole different experience than what we get from a great ’69 or ’73 show, because of course it is.

    Interesting to speculate about Garcia’s state of mind. I think he definitely felt burned out at several points, and he also felt like he owed it to everyone—the other band members, the crew, and all of us—to continue. That’s a classic formula for substance abuse: a person feels trapped by circumstances they feel powerless to change, so they seek escape via the wonders of neurochemistry. Which works, until it doesn’t. I, too, wish they would’ve taken a couple more hiatuses whenever Jerry got real strung out. I’ve heard interviews where Phil said he wanted to do so, but he knew Garcia would just go on tour with the JGB and just keep using. So they just kept on. But based on the recorded evidence, they kept it together pretty well in 1990 ... until Brent died.

    It's a matter of taste, for sure, but I wouldn’t agree that Jerry’s playing was better with the JGB. I think he may very well have preferred playing with JGB at certain times, because there was less pressure and because it was probably a relief to play with a “normal” rhythm section that stuck to the chord changes and kept the beat where it was when the song started and played things the same way from night to night. But I think his best playing resulted when he was being pushed and prodded in various unpredictable ways by the Dead.

    Last five:
    Dvorak: Symphonic Poems (now THAT is some psych-a-delic shit)
    GOGD: DaP 44
    Billy Strings: Home
    Hank Mobley: Soul Station
    Kamasi Washington: Harmony of Difference

  • 1stshow70878
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    On DaP44. Extra week because of Mail "Innovations".

    JGB and other solo projects really let Jer delve deeper into so many styles.
    Anything 73-74 always blew me away. His Motown covers like I Was Made to Love Her. Solos going so far you wonder how he's going to get back. Then you go wow, never would have thought of that return. Vassar called him fearless when soloing.

    Last 5 - more old tapes
    Blue Ribbon Bluegrass - 1993 Rounder Records. A who's who of bluegrass.
    Doc & Richard Watson - Third Generation Blues
    Bela Fleck & The Flecktones - Live Art
    The Radiators - New Dark Ages
    Leftover Salmon - Euphoria
    Cheers

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....I changed it again because I just found this and I couldn't resist.

That’s definitely what I thought on 3-27-94 when they were opening for Rush.
I came for Rush, Primus needed to get off the stage.
Yes, they played Jerry Was A Race Car Driver.
I wasn’t impressed.

That was a nice hoodie Dave was wearing.

Hah, ET embryo in Eugene.
Not only just after the solstice, but Dave said that the show ended around 5 pm.

Rhino should release the Little Feat opening sets as a companion release.

Dave said a Box next year and a studio album anniversary release. I didn’t hear him say that the Box would not be a 1973 anniversary as was stated in a previous post (don’t remember by who).

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Who ever wrote the description for DP 44? It’s obvious who ever did is a fool when they wrote that 6/23/90 was one of their longest performances. Such complete utter misinformed information. The second set is around 90 minutes. Whatever. Attending these 2 shows was well worth the drive.

....I think they meant for 1990. But that has to be by maybe a couple of minutes. And no. I'm not gonna research it.
Aaaand, conekid is an official fan club card carrier lol.
This day in Dead lore, Keith played his first show with the band. 51 years ago.
Digging out my Dave's 3. Disc 3 has a Dark Star 🌟
"Thank you sports fans!" What happened that day in sports history? 10.21.71.
I see the Pirates won the WS, but that was on the 17th. Must be a Chicago thing.
Liner notes by Blair Jackson doesn't mention it. Some help here....

Snafu - I'm not sure wearing a tee shirt with teddy bears on would have gone down too well back then, either. Not that there is anything wrong with wearing such a shirt, of course. Maybe not for every occasion.

I think I'm glad I've never heard of Primus.

I have created a new account on the store so that I should be able to make future orders. However, I can no longer look at my previous order history. I have tried the ‘Check without being registered’ but that requires order number, email and zip code. I enter these, using my post code since we don’t have a zip code, and an error message appears telling me that the combination of the three items isn’t recognised. Once again, for the third time, my order history has become inaccessible. Let’s hope the ordering process has been improved at least.

I have heard of Primus but have never heard anything by them so I’ll refrain from commenting on them.

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Colin-go on...put the boot in. It's a bit of a poor do if we can't be unreasonable at this stage of the game !

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I thought It said somewhere that you can't see your older order history, after the update.
Since creating a new store account, I ordered a sweatshirt 2 weeks ago, and nothing, no shipping notice, nothing in two weeks. I can not overstate how much i dislike this store.

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are subtle. He's smart enough not to give it away too early.
What I heard was what I wanted to hear, and am hoping for.
That there MAY be a box for both an anniversary and another.
More boxes please and maybe some I can afford like a mini.
Cheers

Edit: I'm trippin' again. To my ear 3-9-81 sounds a tiny bit fast. Played it on two different CD players. Is it possible Plangent didn't fix all of the speed issues associated with cassette decks? A great show nonetheless. That deep drum on the Drums is shaking my floor! Love it.

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Bobby's "Ace" just got the 50th Anniversary Treatment. What about Jerry's "Garcia"? It was released about 2 months after "ACE" in July 1972. However, except for Bill sitting in, "Garcia" is truly a solo effort, so does that disqualify it from getting a 50th remastered new mix?

(Crap-cha seems to have gotten more bitchy of late.)

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....just checked out their album Zonkey. Holy shit! This is the best thing ever! All incredible mash-up covers. I mean. An Electric Avenue/Highway To Hell mash-up?? Ace Of Spades/Its Going To Be
A Long Night by Ween? Genius.
That seals it. Just bought tix to see them in February.

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And I use that term loosely... with a nod to any women who may be lurking but are put off (to say the least) by our tendency to rave unconscionably (sp?)....

Hey, I met Oro -- the Colorado Oro -- yesterday! I was hammering west across Colorado (with good, if diverse intentions) and stopped in Eagle to deliver my Band of Gypsys box from my coveted collection to a complete stranger... But no! It was Oro, aka Pedro, who we all know and love from his shall we say voluminous correspondence. A man a bit difficult to pin down, as events unfolded, that sunny day (24 hrs ago).

I'm happy to report -- and no doubt he'll spread some greasy rumors about me... -- that our local Colorado "Oro" is a fine gentleman and -- instead of "dyed in the wool" can we advance to something more like "soaked in a vat of whatever we all been soaking in for the last 50 years" Deadhead? I mean, his hour-long narrative of GD shows experienced had me dizzy... (but I digress).

Tryin' to say through the Indica and Jameson that Colorado Oro is a righteous brother and I HOPE HE MAILS ME BACK BY BoG BOX!!!! I mean, I met the cat in the parking lot of Eagle, Colo.'s largest liquor store, which was our fallback position, and he never took his shades off.......... But he did say that he wants to go to Las Vegas to meet some of you, including the now infamous Vguy and anyone else who wants to say goodbye to a settled life. (Basically, we're talking a regional conference of people who can no longer take their shades off for physiological reasons.)

But I'd say this: there are actual people behind the avatars displayed here. And some of them seem to be pretty fine citizens.

Reporting in, HF

Got home tonight and found mail from experience vinyl. They are offering a redo of "Garcia". A 2 lp set with second lp being out takes. I believe the vinyl will be gold. I read nothing about a remastering.

But odd you should just ask,,,, and there it was!

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44 years ago tonight I was at Winterland for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. What a blast; I hope they release this whole run as a box set . Fun times!

....you are blessed 🙌 to have seen so many awesome bay area shows. Jealous.
Golden Knights won 5-2. Scored two or more goals in the 1st period. That means two free Taco Bell tacos all day tomorrow if you show your ticket. 🌮

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DaveRock - Dylan is currently touring Europe and the UK, and I wondered if yourself or any friends may have caught a recent show, or are his shows being covered in the press at all?

I’m just curious how he is sounding this tour? He always brings a great band, so I’m expecting that is still the case.

I always try and make a point to see him if he plays nearby. One of the best songwriters Garcia ever sourced.

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Good to hear you are out moving around Hendrixfreak. What was in your Gypsy box?

Looking forward to #44.
We should know #45 within the next couple of weeks. Maybe Dave will open the year with Kezar or Maples Pavilion?

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Amazon has it for pre order 44 bucks. Says "limited", but not how many. Gold vinyl.

I bit. But I'm worth it! If not me, who? If not now, when?

Money in the bank, right?

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Thanks Dennis. Forgot how pristine and tight "Garcia" is. With the rest of the Dead sitting this one out except for Bill on drums, and Jerry playing/singing everything, it's almost like an "unplugged" performance. His pedal steel on the Wheel is ethereal. Also looking forward to the Alternate Takes on the second LP. Onward.

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Oro - If you are perusing the boards today, please check your PM.

Dennis - Since you have the wallet out, Vinyl Me, Please is offering Miles Davis’ “Star People” on vinyl. IMHO, this was one of MD’s better late career releases, and features John Scofield and Mike Stern on guitars. See the MD website for a L-I-N-K to Vinyl Me, Please.

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Thatmike - no sadly, I missed out. A few months ago, when the tickets went on sale, I spent ages looking at the prices, trying to decide where to sit, which night to go on, who to buy the ticket off...and it literally sold out before my eyes while I was mucking about! I don't know where my head was at that morning.
I'll keep a lookout at the the music papers and see how the shows are reviewed. I have only actually seen Dylan once - 2017, I think. Chances of me seeing him again aren't looking too good !

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Can't find a track list online; I'm wondering if the outtakes are the same ones that were included a few years ago in the Jerry box set, 8 outtakes altogether.

They appear to be the same tracks as that jerry box set (beyond description),,,, but they're on cd, not limited edition GOLD vinyl!!!

Come on now,,,,, GOLD VINYL!

Can't spell gold without god

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Thanks Dave. I was just curious how his 80+ something croaky voice is holding up. I think his tour poster on his site states 2021-2024, so I’m guessing he is trying to get to every place he can at least once before he hangs it up. The guy is 81. I don’t think either one of my grandfathers even saw age 80.
Thanks again, Amigo!

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Ordered the vinyl AND joined the vinyl of the month club (cancel any time)

Ordered the cd, used for 12 bucks from amazon.

Was surprised I didn't have this in stock. Interesting reviews seem to concur with you about John Scofield and Mike Stern being the star of the show.

It's coming,,, thanks for heads up. I've said it before and will repeat. One of the great things about this site is people pointing out "things" that have come out. You can't watch it all, nice to have extra eyes.

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44 years ago today - the windup at the end of The Other One and the Stella Blue are forever etched in my brain.
I assume Billy and Nitecat were there as well. Magical Mistery Tour(if my memory serves me well...) and east coast vs west coast volleyball game prior to the show(or was it Dead crew vs. Bill Graham's crew??)
The band was LOUD, with Jerry louder than everybody else, just the way it should be!

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RTs Volume 1 #4 a most appropriate show to listen to on its anniversary. This whole run needs to be Normanized.

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Who you calling a fine citizen and a gentleman!
Why I outta!

So yaaasssss, after a ridiculous chaotic fluid morning, I was fortunately able to rendezvous for a fine enjoyable meeting with the multi talented senior Freak, (much too brief but his patience was appreciated considering his agenda etc) after, all was well, until…? Until I say that dark and stormy night
(“ Stooooorrrmmmmyyyy”), ahem wrong rabbit hole.
Until about an hour later, which is around the last I remember, for approximately 48 hours—though I have weird reoccurring flashbacks of running with the pack, and scratching my ear with my foot—until I woke up naked and alone and an unbelievable urge to howl? Strange occurrences in the mountains indeed!
But long short, Senior is even much more than shines through from his posts.
Oh, and generous beyond comprehensive. I did him one small act of kindness without expectation of any return, and well, his gifts, ahem shocked me!
Oh, love the HF album: The Sagebrush Bohemians Let’s Smooth It. Check it out!
Modern Dylan like influences, with often fun songs, good arrangements, and great sound!
A writer, field nut, science freak, connoisseur of much, singer/songwriter, AND an all around GOGD brastafarian!
Mucho Garcia’s!

Oh, don’t worry, your children are fine and will be returned home shortly once we’re done having are way with them lol.
More on this and others whom require individual correspondence just as soon as they get these elephants off the stage…
Now if I could just stop scratching my ear with my foot?

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....don't get me wrong, but HF mentioned a Vegas road trip.
Don't think for a minute I didn't catch that little nugget of potential intel.
There is no autumn here. Going from 85 degrees today to 68 on Sunday. Major cold front heading our way. 60 mph wind gusts tomorrow.
Buckle up buttercup. (That's to myself. Thin blood and stuff).
And before y'all laugh at me in "Dude, really?", keep in mind, I was born and raised here. 🍻 When it gets under sixty degrees, I bundle up big time and make hot toddies.

Relax, it’s only gibberish, but…but I say, I say, if and when we ever make it back to the great city of Lost Wages, it would be our honor and pleasure to buy you and your lovely other a beer if not dinner!
It’s just really nice to actually meet someone from our kind little universe here!
And like the real world certain diamonds shine brighter!

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My order is on the way! UPS are aware of the packages existence.
Mail Innovations this time so I’m not expecting to see it too soon, but it’s nice to know the process has been initiated. Now back to your regular ‘Meet up at the casinos’ programme:))

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44 years ago tonight, I was at Winterland ( along with Cousins and alot of other great folks who post on this forum) for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. Hopefully, this whole run will be released as a box set one day. They could combine it with the March 77 shows and have one hell of a box set. Fun times for sure.

It would be great if this run was released as a box.
I was thinking this morning if there would be any value in releasing runs of shows without all the paraphernalia. The boxes do look good, and I enjoy reading the articles in the books...but if they cut down on all that, maybe they would be able to release more shows in box sets. Less extravagant ones. They are only released on deadnet - not general release, so I am sure we all know the background to shows already - or can look them up in Deadbase or online. For example-I would think we all know the background to the October 78 Winterland run - they could just release the shows on cd/download - or vinyl, without the extras - and it would still sell like hotcakes. Just a thought.

Dave Rock
They don’t get nominated for a Grammy if they don’t make the box look pretty:))
Yes, I’d be happy with simpler formats and more music.

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Colin - looking at what you have just posted on the 17cd section - maybe the international postage charges wouldn't be be so much if the boxes were a bit smaller.

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According to Music Direct, the tracks are:
1. Sugaree ( Alternative Take)
2. Loser ( Alternative Take)
3. Late For Supper/ Spidergawd/ Eep Hour ( Alternative Take)
4. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 1)
5. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 2)
6. Study for "Eep Hour"
7. Dealing From the Bottom (Studio Jam)
8.Study for "The Wheel"

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I would be on the MSG Box thread, but it looks like it's kaput.
I know the MSG '81 shows, and I think disc 1 from 3/10 is fast.
Tempted to bust out my cassettes from storage...will have to fire up the old TEAC W-6000R.
Firing up disc 2 from 9/20/82 in 3...2...1...

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