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  • #321
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    Pink Floyd live

    That was my impression of Pink Floyd, that from DSOM onwards they basically played sets that were quite formalised, with no improvisation and no chances taken. They were the only band from that era that I saw, who played complete albums from beginning to end in concert. I only saw them twice, though. The first one, at Knebworth in 1975 was a bit more unpredictable. They played two sets - the first of which consisted of unrecorded songs that would later appear on "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals". In 1977 when I saw them they played the whole of "Animals" followed by the whole of "Wish You Were Here", with "Money" as the encore. I never felt like seeing them again after this one.
    In some ways they were at the opposite end of the psychedelic spectrum to The Dead. They were a bit wilder earlier on, before I clambered on board.

  • #322
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    Floyd uploads

    Not sure why they would want to extend copyright protection on crappy sounding AUDs.

    Floyd may have been another pioneering band in high quality concert sound, but they apparently weren’t smart enough to record everything.
    On the other hand, everything probably isn’t needed since they played basically identically night after night (which I read before was because the music had to match the visuals).
    I recall several years ago when I was trying to differentiate back to back nights of DSOTM, the difference was that in one of the recordings you could hear someone kick a glass bottle across the floor near the microphone.

  • #323
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    Ramblings from the mine

    (Cue the instrumental version of Christmas time is here off of the Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Christmas album!)

    Since it’s supposed to be the season: just would like to echo the kindness/compassionate sentiment.
    As the world seems to be swirling down the proverbial shiter, kindness and compassion seem more important than ever! It’s the one thing every human can do, no matter what your situation or who you are.
    No matter how tough it might be for you, there’s always someone who has it worse, so even just the smallest gesture of caring can make giant difference in someone else’s journey. Just a little smile, to the right person, at the right time, could change someone’s life! It’s that simple!

    Think of how how vguy delt with that angry wing nut. Not so much the interaction itself, but hopefully perhaps the impression it made on those there that witnessed it. Maybe next time it’ll be one of them and in their subconscious they’ll now posses that ability to turn the other cheek, to let it go, to perhaps even have compassion for that guy who probably thinks he means well…forgive them as they know not what they done. Perhaps it’s all a test?
    All I know is as things appear to get more dire, the more I can try to feel kindness, especially in situations where it wouldn’t normally be the case, the better I feel. It’s like wining some kind of personal lottery to be kind, especially if the person “doesn’t deserve it”.
    When I was a doorman, one of the bellmen had this thing where if he checked someone in and they didn’t tip, or were cheap, instead of getting mad like the rest of us might do, and even go out of our way to not give them good service etc, this guy would spend the entire time the guest was with us trying to be even extra helpful and kind. Often, by the time the cheapskate left us, he’d actually end up tipping this bellmen better than if he’d just give the usual upon check in. It was cool to watch this guy take such a negative, and turn it into a positive, even if it didn’t pan out in tips.
    Like, the more folks are dicks, the more I’m going to be kind!

    So cue up Ryan Adams song Kindness, and think of at least one way you can make a difference in someone’s life today.
    Tamp down all the noise, especially at this time of year, open up that GD hippie sonar, and shed some positive light and kindness out there. I mean what else is there?

    Who’d a thunk Ain’t no time to hate, and are you kind? would become increasingly more pertinent over time.
    Yep that damn Hunter sure was a smart fellow to be sure. Although many great rock lyrics still resonate, one could argue that the Dead, especially Hunters lyrics could actually be more relevant now, 50 some years later!

    Quite the gift!
    So if some rouge bastard steals your sears poncho, or was that a real poncho? Maybe it’s just a test to see who the fallen angels are out there. Kindness tested, kindness sustained. That’s one of my favorite things about this dnet place. Oh sure we squabble and bitch about this and that, mostly nothing, but like family, we’re usually pretty cool to each other.
    So sorta like Mickey said, take these feelings, and put them out into the world and do some good.

    And please be careful and stay warm out there folks, especially those who aren’t used to this “winter” weather!
    Make like a Boy Scout and be prepared, cause like GOT’s winter is coming!

    Nice to see HF seemingly his ole self. Hopefully Nappy feeling better after another bout of sickness, and Jeff Smith and the Mrs too. Mr Jimmys had a tough year too, so hoping he and his, as well as all y’all have a safe and prosperous new year too! And anyone I missed? Oh yeah, I know DMCVTs had a rough year too!

    Ok, a couple more quick tunes before I head down the mine:
    Cue up 8 days of Hanukkah and Ain’t no Chimneys in the Projects, by Sharon Jones and the DaP Kings.
    I mean it is supposed to be a celebration and who knows how to celebrate better than Deadheads!
    Stay home, Be safe, be well, find somebody warm to snuggle with!
    Ho fuggin ho, and a Festivus for the rest of us!

  • #324
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    Happy Festivus

    My Festivus complaint is that I have to wait too long between Boxes.
    2 Boxes per year Dave/Rhino.

    -4 F (-20 C) here with a “feels like” -26 F.

    At this point a little Cold Rain and Snow sounds warm.

  • #325
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    Spreadsheet for GD shows.

    Jake R, can I ask you to please check your PM?

    Have a beautiful day.

    Regards.

  • #326
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    Good sentiments, vguy

    The reason humans are living longer (though not in the barbaric US) is that, as toolmakers, we put a barrier between us and the environment, while wildlife, for sure, may nest and den, but otherwise they're out "there" and that makes for greater mortality. But it's vguy's tenderness in caring for others that I dig. And only 54?? (Spring chicken...)

    As for stormiest shows, I cannot recall the date(s), but more than one Red Rocks GD show was played in the pouring rain. I was pretty close and no one in front of me left. Behind me, all I saw was a multicolored collection of ponchos. (Ha! Deadhead story: I have two raincoats with me at the Rocks and it begins to pour. I grant a stranger one of them, which matched with rain pants. I.e., my valuable backcountry ensemble. After the show he walks away with the jacket. Two years later, same scenario and I see the guy wearing my jacket. So I said, 'Hey, I want that back.' He says 'Let me use it during the show.' I said 'Okay.' After the show he disappears again, forever this time. Today I recall the loss of gear, but do not want to let it make me less willing to help a fellow DH. Perhaps a faint echo of vguy's compassionate stance towards other creatures. But I'm still a little pissed!)

    Okay, by now, Dave L. has made his 2023 box decision. Mr. Norman is reviewing the tapes for anomalies and the artist is offering sketches of his/her/their approach. But will it be a box I can pass on or will it be a monster '73 pkg that recalls my first big, year-long outing (at least June to October)?? And when during the year will they drop the Wake of the Flood reissue? Early on, with the box later??

    I am the worst.............

  • #327
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    woke up this morning

    rolled outta those sheets
    looked out the window
    man, it was bleak
    5 degrees on the meter
    made me weak
    pulled back the curtains
    the sun streamed in
    rainbows everywhere as the sun shone through the ice
    then the wind began to blow
    I could see more ice in the wind
    looked up at the mountains
    covered in snow
    realized right then
    I had nowhere to go
    so I made some joe
    and turned on the tv
    they all said like a plea
    frozen in five
    think I'll just sit here and play
    dead all day.

  • #328
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    I have to credit my beloved for getting us here

    She planned this trip months ago.

    THANK GOODNESS.

  • #329
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    Things Are Tough All Over....

    ....except in the southwest currently. Please. Be safe out there America. Frostbite in less than ten minutes on unexposed skin. Fifty degree temp drops in literally minutes. I worry about the homeless and the animals most of all.
    Climate change is the real deal.
    I'm 54 years old and have never heard of weather like this.
    Proudfoot chose wisely.

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    "It's desert music, man"

    Name that movie!

    Spending some time in the Palm Springs area

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 10/19/2022 - 16:39

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....I changed it again because I just found this and I couldn't resist.

That’s definitely what I thought on 3-27-94 when they were opening for Rush.
I came for Rush, Primus needed to get off the stage.
Yes, they played Jerry Was A Race Car Driver.
I wasn’t impressed.

That was a nice hoodie Dave was wearing.

Hah, ET embryo in Eugene.
Not only just after the solstice, but Dave said that the show ended around 5 pm.

Rhino should release the Little Feat opening sets as a companion release.

Dave said a Box next year and a studio album anniversary release. I didn’t hear him say that the Box would not be a 1973 anniversary as was stated in a previous post (don’t remember by who).

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Submitted by 72LiveDead on Wed, 10/19/2022 - 18:07

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Who ever wrote the description for DP 44? It’s obvious who ever did is a fool when they wrote that 6/23/90 was one of their longest performances. Such complete utter misinformed information. The second set is around 90 minutes. Whatever. Attending these 2 shows was well worth the drive.

....I think they meant for 1990. But that has to be by maybe a couple of minutes. And no. I'm not gonna research it.
Aaaand, conekid is an official fan club card carrier lol.
This day in Dead lore, Keith played his first show with the band. 51 years ago.
Digging out my Dave's 3. Disc 3 has a Dark Star 🌟
"Thank you sports fans!" What happened that day in sports history? 10.21.71.
I see the Pirates won the WS, but that was on the 17th. Must be a Chicago thing.
Liner notes by Blair Jackson doesn't mention it. Some help here....

Snafu - I'm not sure wearing a tee shirt with teddy bears on would have gone down too well back then, either. Not that there is anything wrong with wearing such a shirt, of course. Maybe not for every occasion.

I think I'm glad I've never heard of Primus.

I have created a new account on the store so that I should be able to make future orders. However, I can no longer look at my previous order history. I have tried the ‘Check without being registered’ but that requires order number, email and zip code. I enter these, using my post code since we don’t have a zip code, and an error message appears telling me that the combination of the three items isn’t recognised. Once again, for the third time, my order history has become inaccessible. Let’s hope the ordering process has been improved at least.

I have heard of Primus but have never heard anything by them so I’ll refrain from commenting on them.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 04:56

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Colin-go on...put the boot in. It's a bit of a poor do if we can't be unreasonable at this stage of the game !

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 05:41

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I thought It said somewhere that you can't see your older order history, after the update.
Since creating a new store account, I ordered a sweatshirt 2 weeks ago, and nothing, no shipping notice, nothing in two weeks. I can not overstate how much i dislike this store.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 06:52

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are subtle. He's smart enough not to give it away too early.
What I heard was what I wanted to hear, and am hoping for.
That there MAY be a box for both an anniversary and another.
More boxes please and maybe some I can afford like a mini.
Cheers

Edit: I'm trippin' again. To my ear 3-9-81 sounds a tiny bit fast. Played it on two different CD players. Is it possible Plangent didn't fix all of the speed issues associated with cassette decks? A great show nonetheless. That deep drum on the Drums is shaking my floor! Love it.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 07:54

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Bobby's "Ace" just got the 50th Anniversary Treatment. What about Jerry's "Garcia"? It was released about 2 months after "ACE" in July 1972. However, except for Bill sitting in, "Garcia" is truly a solo effort, so does that disqualify it from getting a 50th remastered new mix?

(Crap-cha seems to have gotten more bitchy of late.)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 15:59

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....just checked out their album Zonkey. Holy shit! This is the best thing ever! All incredible mash-up covers. I mean. An Electric Avenue/Highway To Hell mash-up?? Ace Of Spades/Its Going To Be
A Long Night by Ween? Genius.
That seals it. Just bought tix to see them in February.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 17:14

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And I use that term loosely... with a nod to any women who may be lurking but are put off (to say the least) by our tendency to rave unconscionably (sp?)....

Hey, I met Oro -- the Colorado Oro -- yesterday! I was hammering west across Colorado (with good, if diverse intentions) and stopped in Eagle to deliver my Band of Gypsys box from my coveted collection to a complete stranger... But no! It was Oro, aka Pedro, who we all know and love from his shall we say voluminous correspondence. A man a bit difficult to pin down, as events unfolded, that sunny day (24 hrs ago).

I'm happy to report -- and no doubt he'll spread some greasy rumors about me... -- that our local Colorado "Oro" is a fine gentleman and -- instead of "dyed in the wool" can we advance to something more like "soaked in a vat of whatever we all been soaking in for the last 50 years" Deadhead? I mean, his hour-long narrative of GD shows experienced had me dizzy... (but I digress).

Tryin' to say through the Indica and Jameson that Colorado Oro is a righteous brother and I HOPE HE MAILS ME BACK BY BoG BOX!!!! I mean, I met the cat in the parking lot of Eagle, Colo.'s largest liquor store, which was our fallback position, and he never took his shades off.......... But he did say that he wants to go to Las Vegas to meet some of you, including the now infamous Vguy and anyone else who wants to say goodbye to a settled life. (Basically, we're talking a regional conference of people who can no longer take their shades off for physiological reasons.)

But I'd say this: there are actual people behind the avatars displayed here. And some of them seem to be pretty fine citizens.

Reporting in, HF

Got home tonight and found mail from experience vinyl. They are offering a redo of "Garcia". A 2 lp set with second lp being out takes. I believe the vinyl will be gold. I read nothing about a remastering.

But odd you should just ask,,,, and there it was!

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 10/20/2022 - 22:16

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44 years ago tonight I was at Winterland for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. What a blast; I hope they release this whole run as a box set . Fun times!

....you are blessed 🙌 to have seen so many awesome bay area shows. Jealous.
Golden Knights won 5-2. Scored two or more goals in the 1st period. That means two free Taco Bell tacos all day tomorrow if you show your ticket. 🌮

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 05:16

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DaveRock - Dylan is currently touring Europe and the UK, and I wondered if yourself or any friends may have caught a recent show, or are his shows being covered in the press at all?

I’m just curious how he is sounding this tour? He always brings a great band, so I’m expecting that is still the case.

I always try and make a point to see him if he plays nearby. One of the best songwriters Garcia ever sourced.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 06:13

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Good to hear you are out moving around Hendrixfreak. What was in your Gypsy box?

Looking forward to #44.
We should know #45 within the next couple of weeks. Maybe Dave will open the year with Kezar or Maples Pavilion?

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 07:18

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Amazon has it for pre order 44 bucks. Says "limited", but not how many. Gold vinyl.

I bit. But I'm worth it! If not me, who? If not now, when?

Money in the bank, right?

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 08:01

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Thanks Dennis. Forgot how pristine and tight "Garcia" is. With the rest of the Dead sitting this one out except for Bill on drums, and Jerry playing/singing everything, it's almost like an "unplugged" performance. His pedal steel on the Wheel is ethereal. Also looking forward to the Alternate Takes on the second LP. Onward.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 09:22

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Oro - If you are perusing the boards today, please check your PM.

Dennis - Since you have the wallet out, Vinyl Me, Please is offering Miles Davis’ “Star People” on vinyl. IMHO, this was one of MD’s better late career releases, and features John Scofield and Mike Stern on guitars. See the MD website for a L-I-N-K to Vinyl Me, Please.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 10:49

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Thatmike - no sadly, I missed out. A few months ago, when the tickets went on sale, I spent ages looking at the prices, trying to decide where to sit, which night to go on, who to buy the ticket off...and it literally sold out before my eyes while I was mucking about! I don't know where my head was at that morning.
I'll keep a lookout at the the music papers and see how the shows are reviewed. I have only actually seen Dylan once - 2017, I think. Chances of me seeing him again aren't looking too good !

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 11:11

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Can't find a track list online; I'm wondering if the outtakes are the same ones that were included a few years ago in the Jerry box set, 8 outtakes altogether.

They appear to be the same tracks as that jerry box set (beyond description),,,, but they're on cd, not limited edition GOLD vinyl!!!

Come on now,,,,, GOLD VINYL!

Can't spell gold without god

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 11:54

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Thanks Dave. I was just curious how his 80+ something croaky voice is holding up. I think his tour poster on his site states 2021-2024, so I’m guessing he is trying to get to every place he can at least once before he hangs it up. The guy is 81. I don’t think either one of my grandfathers even saw age 80.
Thanks again, Amigo!

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 11:56

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Ordered the vinyl AND joined the vinyl of the month club (cancel any time)

Ordered the cd, used for 12 bucks from amazon.

Was surprised I didn't have this in stock. Interesting reviews seem to concur with you about John Scofield and Mike Stern being the star of the show.

It's coming,,, thanks for heads up. I've said it before and will repeat. One of the great things about this site is people pointing out "things" that have come out. You can't watch it all, nice to have extra eyes.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 13:30

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44 years ago today - the windup at the end of The Other One and the Stella Blue are forever etched in my brain.
I assume Billy and Nitecat were there as well. Magical Mistery Tour(if my memory serves me well...) and east coast vs west coast volleyball game prior to the show(or was it Dead crew vs. Bill Graham's crew??)
The band was LOUD, with Jerry louder than everybody else, just the way it should be!

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 14:41

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RTs Volume 1 #4 a most appropriate show to listen to on its anniversary. This whole run needs to be Normanized.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 19:20

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Who you calling a fine citizen and a gentleman!
Why I outta!

So yaaasssss, after a ridiculous chaotic fluid morning, I was fortunately able to rendezvous for a fine enjoyable meeting with the multi talented senior Freak, (much too brief but his patience was appreciated considering his agenda etc) after, all was well, until…? Until I say that dark and stormy night
(“ Stooooorrrmmmmyyyy”), ahem wrong rabbit hole.
Until about an hour later, which is around the last I remember, for approximately 48 hours—though I have weird reoccurring flashbacks of running with the pack, and scratching my ear with my foot—until I woke up naked and alone and an unbelievable urge to howl? Strange occurrences in the mountains indeed!
But long short, Senior is even much more than shines through from his posts.
Oh, and generous beyond comprehensive. I did him one small act of kindness without expectation of any return, and well, his gifts, ahem shocked me!
Oh, love the HF album: The Sagebrush Bohemians Let’s Smooth It. Check it out!
Modern Dylan like influences, with often fun songs, good arrangements, and great sound!
A writer, field nut, science freak, connoisseur of much, singer/songwriter, AND an all around GOGD brastafarian!
Mucho Garcia’s!

Oh, don’t worry, your children are fine and will be returned home shortly once we’re done having are way with them lol.
More on this and others whom require individual correspondence just as soon as they get these elephants off the stage…
Now if I could just stop scratching my ear with my foot?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 19:47

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....don't get me wrong, but HF mentioned a Vegas road trip.
Don't think for a minute I didn't catch that little nugget of potential intel.
There is no autumn here. Going from 85 degrees today to 68 on Sunday. Major cold front heading our way. 60 mph wind gusts tomorrow.
Buckle up buttercup. (That's to myself. Thin blood and stuff).
And before y'all laugh at me in "Dude, really?", keep in mind, I was born and raised here. 🍻 When it gets under sixty degrees, I bundle up big time and make hot toddies.

Relax, it’s only gibberish, but…but I say, I say, if and when we ever make it back to the great city of Lost Wages, it would be our honor and pleasure to buy you and your lovely other a beer if not dinner!
It’s just really nice to actually meet someone from our kind little universe here!
And like the real world certain diamonds shine brighter!

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 22:04

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My order is on the way! UPS are aware of the packages existence.
Mail Innovations this time so I’m not expecting to see it too soon, but it’s nice to know the process has been initiated. Now back to your regular ‘Meet up at the casinos’ programme:))

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 10/21/2022 - 22:12

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44 years ago tonight, I was at Winterland ( along with Cousins and alot of other great folks who post on this forum) for a knockout show with the Good Old Grateful Dead. Hopefully, this whole run will be released as a box set one day. They could combine it with the March 77 shows and have one hell of a box set. Fun times for sure.

It would be great if this run was released as a box.
I was thinking this morning if there would be any value in releasing runs of shows without all the paraphernalia. The boxes do look good, and I enjoy reading the articles in the books...but if they cut down on all that, maybe they would be able to release more shows in box sets. Less extravagant ones. They are only released on deadnet - not general release, so I am sure we all know the background to shows already - or can look them up in Deadbase or online. For example-I would think we all know the background to the October 78 Winterland run - they could just release the shows on cd/download - or vinyl, without the extras - and it would still sell like hotcakes. Just a thought.

Dave Rock
They don’t get nominated for a Grammy if they don’t make the box look pretty:))
Yes, I’d be happy with simpler formats and more music.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 10/22/2022 - 03:23

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Colin - looking at what you have just posted on the 17cd section - maybe the international postage charges wouldn't be be so much if the boxes were a bit smaller.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Sat, 10/22/2022 - 04:58

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According to Music Direct, the tracks are:
1. Sugaree ( Alternative Take)
2. Loser ( Alternative Take)
3. Late For Supper/ Spidergawd/ Eep Hour ( Alternative Take)
4. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 1)
5. The Wheel ( Alternative Take 2)
6. Study for "Eep Hour"
7. Dealing From the Bottom (Studio Jam)
8.Study for "The Wheel"

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Sat, 10/22/2022 - 19:21

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I would be on the MSG Box thread, but it looks like it's kaput.
I know the MSG '81 shows, and I think disc 1 from 3/10 is fast.
Tempted to bust out my cassettes from storage...will have to fire up the old TEAC W-6000R.
Firing up disc 2 from 9/20/82 in 3...2...1...

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