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  • daverock
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    Pink Floyd live

    That was my impression of Pink Floyd, that from DSOM onwards they basically played sets that were quite formalised, with no improvisation and no chances taken. They were the only band from that era that I saw, who played complete albums from beginning to end in concert. I only saw them twice, though. The first one, at Knebworth in 1975 was a bit more unpredictable. They played two sets - the first of which consisted of unrecorded songs that would later appear on "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals". In 1977 when I saw them they played the whole of "Animals" followed by the whole of "Wish You Were Here", with "Money" as the encore. I never felt like seeing them again after this one.
    In some ways they were at the opposite end of the psychedelic spectrum to The Dead. They were a bit wilder earlier on, before I clambered on board.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Floyd uploads

    Not sure why they would want to extend copyright protection on crappy sounding AUDs.

    Floyd may have been another pioneering band in high quality concert sound, but they apparently weren’t smart enough to record everything.
    On the other hand, everything probably isn’t needed since they played basically identically night after night (which I read before was because the music had to match the visuals).
    I recall several years ago when I was trying to differentiate back to back nights of DSOTM, the difference was that in one of the recordings you could hear someone kick a glass bottle across the floor near the microphone.

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    Ramblings from the mine

    (Cue the instrumental version of Christmas time is here off of the Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Christmas album!)

    Since it’s supposed to be the season: just would like to echo the kindness/compassionate sentiment.
    As the world seems to be swirling down the proverbial shiter, kindness and compassion seem more important than ever! It’s the one thing every human can do, no matter what your situation or who you are.
    No matter how tough it might be for you, there’s always someone who has it worse, so even just the smallest gesture of caring can make giant difference in someone else’s journey. Just a little smile, to the right person, at the right time, could change someone’s life! It’s that simple!

    Think of how how vguy delt with that angry wing nut. Not so much the interaction itself, but hopefully perhaps the impression it made on those there that witnessed it. Maybe next time it’ll be one of them and in their subconscious they’ll now posses that ability to turn the other cheek, to let it go, to perhaps even have compassion for that guy who probably thinks he means well…forgive them as they know not what they done. Perhaps it’s all a test?
    All I know is as things appear to get more dire, the more I can try to feel kindness, especially in situations where it wouldn’t normally be the case, the better I feel. It’s like wining some kind of personal lottery to be kind, especially if the person “doesn’t deserve it”.
    When I was a doorman, one of the bellmen had this thing where if he checked someone in and they didn’t tip, or were cheap, instead of getting mad like the rest of us might do, and even go out of our way to not give them good service etc, this guy would spend the entire time the guest was with us trying to be even extra helpful and kind. Often, by the time the cheapskate left us, he’d actually end up tipping this bellmen better than if he’d just give the usual upon check in. It was cool to watch this guy take such a negative, and turn it into a positive, even if it didn’t pan out in tips.
    Like, the more folks are dicks, the more I’m going to be kind!

    So cue up Ryan Adams song Kindness, and think of at least one way you can make a difference in someone’s life today.
    Tamp down all the noise, especially at this time of year, open up that GD hippie sonar, and shed some positive light and kindness out there. I mean what else is there?

    Who’d a thunk Ain’t no time to hate, and are you kind? would become increasingly more pertinent over time.
    Yep that damn Hunter sure was a smart fellow to be sure. Although many great rock lyrics still resonate, one could argue that the Dead, especially Hunters lyrics could actually be more relevant now, 50 some years later!

    Quite the gift!
    So if some rouge bastard steals your sears poncho, or was that a real poncho? Maybe it’s just a test to see who the fallen angels are out there. Kindness tested, kindness sustained. That’s one of my favorite things about this dnet place. Oh sure we squabble and bitch about this and that, mostly nothing, but like family, we’re usually pretty cool to each other.
    So sorta like Mickey said, take these feelings, and put them out into the world and do some good.

    And please be careful and stay warm out there folks, especially those who aren’t used to this “winter” weather!
    Make like a Boy Scout and be prepared, cause like GOT’s winter is coming!

    Nice to see HF seemingly his ole self. Hopefully Nappy feeling better after another bout of sickness, and Jeff Smith and the Mrs too. Mr Jimmys had a tough year too, so hoping he and his, as well as all y’all have a safe and prosperous new year too! And anyone I missed? Oh yeah, I know DMCVTs had a rough year too!

    Ok, a couple more quick tunes before I head down the mine:
    Cue up 8 days of Hanukkah and Ain’t no Chimneys in the Projects, by Sharon Jones and the DaP Kings.
    I mean it is supposed to be a celebration and who knows how to celebrate better than Deadheads!
    Stay home, Be safe, be well, find somebody warm to snuggle with!
    Ho fuggin ho, and a Festivus for the rest of us!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Happy Festivus

    My Festivus complaint is that I have to wait too long between Boxes.
    2 Boxes per year Dave/Rhino.

    -4 F (-20 C) here with a “feels like” -26 F.

    At this point a little Cold Rain and Snow sounds warm.

  • Pancho Pantera
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    Spreadsheet for GD shows.

    Jake R, can I ask you to please check your PM?

    Have a beautiful day.

    Regards.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Good sentiments, vguy

    The reason humans are living longer (though not in the barbaric US) is that, as toolmakers, we put a barrier between us and the environment, while wildlife, for sure, may nest and den, but otherwise they're out "there" and that makes for greater mortality. But it's vguy's tenderness in caring for others that I dig. And only 54?? (Spring chicken...)

    As for stormiest shows, I cannot recall the date(s), but more than one Red Rocks GD show was played in the pouring rain. I was pretty close and no one in front of me left. Behind me, all I saw was a multicolored collection of ponchos. (Ha! Deadhead story: I have two raincoats with me at the Rocks and it begins to pour. I grant a stranger one of them, which matched with rain pants. I.e., my valuable backcountry ensemble. After the show he walks away with the jacket. Two years later, same scenario and I see the guy wearing my jacket. So I said, 'Hey, I want that back.' He says 'Let me use it during the show.' I said 'Okay.' After the show he disappears again, forever this time. Today I recall the loss of gear, but do not want to let it make me less willing to help a fellow DH. Perhaps a faint echo of vguy's compassionate stance towards other creatures. But I'm still a little pissed!)

    Okay, by now, Dave L. has made his 2023 box decision. Mr. Norman is reviewing the tapes for anomalies and the artist is offering sketches of his/her/their approach. But will it be a box I can pass on or will it be a monster '73 pkg that recalls my first big, year-long outing (at least June to October)?? And when during the year will they drop the Wake of the Flood reissue? Early on, with the box later??

    I am the worst.............

  • PT Barnum
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    woke up this morning

    rolled outta those sheets
    looked out the window
    man, it was bleak
    5 degrees on the meter
    made me weak
    pulled back the curtains
    the sun streamed in
    rainbows everywhere as the sun shone through the ice
    then the wind began to blow
    I could see more ice in the wind
    looked up at the mountains
    covered in snow
    realized right then
    I had nowhere to go
    so I made some joe
    and turned on the tv
    they all said like a plea
    frozen in five
    think I'll just sit here and play
    dead all day.

  • proudfoot
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    I have to credit my beloved for getting us here

    She planned this trip months ago.

    THANK GOODNESS.

  • Vguy72
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    Things Are Tough All Over....

    ....except in the southwest currently. Please. Be safe out there America. Frostbite in less than ten minutes on unexposed skin. Fifty degree temp drops in literally minutes. I worry about the homeless and the animals most of all.
    Climate change is the real deal.
    I'm 54 years old and have never heard of weather like this.
    Proudfoot chose wisely.

  • proudfoot
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    "It's desert music, man"

    Name that movie!

    Spending some time in the Palm Springs area

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Those of us in Blighty don't get full tracking even when you sign up to UPS.The reason being is that they are sent economy post, and they do not track the item, from leaving the USA.
However you do get false emails from UPS when an expensive box set is ordered,and you pay over the odds on postage.

BTK... seems like we were at alot of the same shows in the early 80's .... I will never forget Halloween at the BCT ... it was all the heads dressed in costumes that made the shows, although "Halloween Space" was pretty trippy as I recall. And I missed the BBQ, dammit! Maybe next time ............tc

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The ones with meandering intros are the best. :-)

I am dabbling in June 76. 6-11 to be specific. But, 6-9 is another grate one...

We get the Bean sound again in Dec. 78. 12-17 has an Eyes of the World, but it's minus a real long intro...

P.S. Crosswalks

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the Grateful Dead were the greatest band ever, there, ok.

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The GD is the Dark Star at the center of this galaxy.

Sometimes we go to solar systems, planets, moons, etc. in our bizarre galaxy. Vacations, rants, joys, whatevers, hockey teams, trolls, und so weiter.

Just scroll past the stuff you don't want to read, and read the stuff you do want to read.

Keep on orbiting the Dark Star, y'all, and share what you will.

God bless us, everyone, and God bless the GD.

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Check one of the other active discussion boards.

This board is open mic night.

Red Wings started good……

DaP44 departed Fontana, due Tuesday.

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Bi-Curious George

A comet: Buoy the mascot.. WTF.

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not follow Deedee. What would YOU like to talk about?

Ya see many of us have been talking too much about the GOGD for so long that we’ve covered a lot of ground, and well, like a big family we discuss, or fight, about all kinds of things, but if you start a good GD topic, someone will most certainly reply…

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Those 1984 BCT shows were a lot of fun. I'm surprised you didn't see me , I was the guy with the long hair and a very cool tie dye t shirt. I bought the tie dye t shirt along with a very cool Rick Griffin poster outside at the very first show. I bet there were a lot of other folks who post on this forum that were also at those shows. Anyway, good to hear from you, have a great day and a great Holloween.

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over on the 2023 DaP Subscription page this morning between TimP and Keithfan. Things I didn't know about Keith and the keyboards he played and when.
Ya just gotta poke around DD.
Cheers
My 44 now tracking, due Wed.

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send me a PM with the details and I'll get the Doc on the case and also alert the tech folks that all is not as it should be.

As it turns out, I put the "ass" in asteroid this time.

I entered the wrong expiration date. A 5 looked like a 3. DERP.

"Got two good eyes but I still don't see."

Mea culpa, Marye.

I apologize for acting like a grumpy old man, Marye. How do you tolerate monitoring us?

Wait, I AM a grumpy old man.

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Ahoy, maties, 44 is shipped! Supposedly. Now comes the part where the post office doesn't know where it is for about 4-5 days, and then it takes another 4-5 to meander across California, as if traveling via dosed coyotes, and I'll get my copy about a week from now. Whatever. I'm used to it by now.

The Revolver deluxe edition sure looks a money grab. You get 5 discs: a new remix, a mono mix, two "sessions" discs of outtakes and demos and whatnot, and then a disc with nothing but mono and stereo versions of Paperback Writer and Rain. Now, Revolver is only about 35 minutes long, so the remix AND mono versions PLUS the Paperback Writer and Rain tracks could've all fit on ONE disc. Talk about "milking it."

The thing is, I wouldn't mind hearing the remix. The original stereo mix has always been a problem; there's way too much stereo panning, The mono mix is great, but it doesn't do justice to the swirling psychedelia of Tomorrow Never Knows. So I may have to break down and get the two disc version, which has the new stereo mix (all 35 minutes of it) on one disc, and then a disc out of outtakes. I think I've probably bought that record at least 5-6 times now, since getting that first copy from K-Mart for I think $1.99 back in the Pleistocene Era.

Good on you guys for remembering Steps Ahead! I'm a tenor sax player, so I'm obsessed with all things Michael Brecker (who was really The Guy on tenor after Coltrane) so I've got all the Steps records that he was on. I actually like them better than the Brecker Bros, whose studio recordings often suffer from overly slick production, IMO. (Though the live recordings are great!) Those first few Steps records with MB, especially Smokin in the Pit, are really really good.

Just listened to DaP 25. I do this a lot, where they announce a new release, and I get excited about it, but it's months before it's going to come, and so I listen to whatever GD I've got that's from the same tour to tide me over. So after they announced the Portland shows from October '77, I pulled out this gem (from a couple weeks later). Man, that has got to be one of the great first sets ever! Second ain't bad, either.

And speaking of baseball ... (OK, more like, "since nobody is speaking of baseball"): what an amazing World Series opener last night! Houston gets off to a 5-0 lead, had Verlander on the mound (a pitcher who was 99-0 in games in which he led by 5 runs), and the Phillies somehow come back and win 6-5. If I can't have my Giants in the post season, I can at least enjoy the schadenfreude of an epic upset win over the Trashtros.

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Sonic genus and amazing to listen to. Sounds unbelievable…

No comment on costs….

But it’s f’ing Revolver! Just saying…

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That was one of the best baseball games I've ever seen last night. They were playing Grateful Dead music going into the commercial breaks, Throwing Stones and Foolish Heart.

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just got a signed copy of Ken Babbs' new book Cronies Adventures with Ken Kesey, Neal Cassady, The Merry Pranksters and the Grateful Dead. Reviews looks like fun, more Dead tales.

Revolver release haven't heard it yet but looks good, It's The Beatles and it's Revolver. nuff said.
Last 5:
America 1st lp
Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here MFSL Original Master Recording
Grateful Dead 3-24-95 Set 2
Moody Blues On the Threshold of a Dream
Steve Miller Band Book of Dreams Original Master Recording
Beatles Revolver Original Master Recording let's see if the new release will sound as good as this one.
jumping all over the place today.

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Got Dave's # 44 and Revolver box set today and I am a big Phillies Fan Big day to listen and Watch

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Just back from a wonderful vacation on the Oregon coast. Watched a ton of hockey on TV.

Ya know, when I eat pork chops, I never let the mashed potatoes touch the chops OR the string beans. It just doesn't seem right.

I hear there's a World Series going on. Cool. More hockey. Planning next year's vacation, even now. And though I don't care about hockey, I think I'll just start watching a ton of it.

And then commenting here in detail on every single game. With breaks to discuss how to avoid having my mashed potatoes touch my pork chops.

Okay, I get the joke. "DeeDee" is actually Bobby Weir, but he done yanked his own chain a leetle too hard.

....I also don't like my food touching each other. In fact. I usually spin my plate around and eat the offerings one at a time.
The Wild/Red Wings game just started and Minnesota scored a minute and a half in. Muted of course. Dave's 42 on the stereo.
Detroit misses Yzerman. At least on the ice. He is their GM after all. Spent all 22 years with them. You hardly see that in any sport anymore.
I see heads are getting their Autzen's already. Sweet!!
Just checked my mailbox. No Dave's. But five political fliers. All the Republican ones just parrot each other regarding how they/you/me can help stop the steal by voting for them and nothing else. No plan. Luckily, my trash bin is just feet away from my mailbox.
Time for a beer.

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Great choice for a release. Jerry’s very inspired all night long, with an uplifting edge to every note played during the marathon second set. Massive versions of Eyes, Uncle John’s Band, Miracle, and Dew. The drum loops in the percussion segment is one of the trippiest ever.

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See article from Rolling Stone “Jerry Garcia's Lost Pipe Has Been Found After 30 Years -- and It Still Smells Like Weed” on the internet.
Amusing.

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Vocals almost inaudible buuuut you can hear lots of instrumentation

Worth at least one listen in your lifetime

Can't read article no subscription

I'm sure that pipe is kinda nasty

PF - That’s odd you cannot get the article, because I don’t subscribe to that magazine either, it just came up on my news feed, but the article has been picked up by dozens of outlets.
The pipe appears to have been made by the one and only Owsley Stanley, driven by only one owner - Jerry - and lost for many years behind a bed at Merl Saunders home. It is a cool looking thing, and as Owsley designed jewelry, quite unique!
I hope you can find it, at least the pics of it.

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You’re welcome.
It’s a cool looking pipe, isn’t it? I never owned one that fancy, I chose function over style, but I had buddies with some pretty elaborate ones. More like art pieces. Even the boxes they kept them in were more intricate than anything I had, almost like they were ceremonial.

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That Mike, that's a good story about Garcia's pipe.

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for Jerry, how cool. They really did love each other. Tractors

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Stanley was a man of great talent and vision, and we all reap the benefits of his sonic acumen still.
Glad you all liked the article.

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Excellent show with a killer Dancing in the Streets, possibly the best Cassidy I've heard, stellar Let it Grow and superb Scarlet/Fire. Ran into Billy the Kidd there, he borrowed my comb and never returned it, dammit!! Regardless, this show would make a great pick.

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the pipe or the cool logos Rhoney Stanley, Owsley's ex, carved into it.
The reclining cat from Cat's Down Under on the bottom of the bowl.
The crouching tiger from Jerry's guitar on the front of the bowl.
Wonder how much Steve Cabella had to give for it?
Says it needs to be seen but not just in some pot museum.
And no one will be smoking it, he says, that was Jerry's job.
Obviously priceless!
Cheers

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Cousins, thanks for the comb, I still have it. Its s an ACE, its a beauty.

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You CAN hear three guitars

No drums or keys

An odd one. Worth a check after you have heard everything else.

Article...will pursue furthur. Get it? Furthur? Haha...ha...lame.

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It's a Betty Board of their set opening for the GD in London, May 26 [guess the year]

The band is tight, Marmaduke's vocals are pretty disciplined, the setlist is fun, the show fills an 80 minute disc and Betty's recording is her usual stellar stuff.

Great band! Caught 'em a few times in '72-'73, with the GD and without. Great fun. "Highly" recommended.

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38 years ago today,( you know where I was at). along with Cousins and alot of other great folks who post on this forum, the BCT, for a rocking night with the Good old Grateful Dead. This was my favorite show of the whole run, but they all were great! After the show, we stopped at Everett & Jones BBQ down on San Pablo Ave for some great bbq. My brother saw Rock Scully in Everett & Jones after a Dead Greek show one night, probably picking up some bbq for Garcia.

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The other day I went to one of those "celebration of life" things for a friend who passed a couple weeks ago, a drummer who I'd played in a couple bands with. He was very well liked, so there were lots of people there, lots of mutual friends I hadn't see in a while. And after catching up with one friend for a while, he tells me a story about how he went to the Sweetwater to see Ramblin Jack Eliot a few weeks ago, and Bob Weir saved the day,

Jack, who's over 90 now, was apparently drunk. At first it was funny, and it seemed like maybe he would pull it together. But it soon became apparent that, no, he was too far gone, and this was just going to be painful for all concerned. Jack couldn't remember lyrics, couldn't remember what story he was trying tell, couldn't play, and it was just ugly.

Then, who should appear from backstage but Bob Weir, with a guitar. Weir sets up on a stool behind him, and helps Jack through a couple songs, playing guitar to back him up and reminding him when he can't remember the words. But after a couple tunes it's clear even this is unworkable. So Bob puts his arms around Jack, helps him off the stage. Then he comes back, apologizes to the audience, and offers to play a few tunes. Which he does. Plays and sings his heart out, in fact.

Bob's a good dude. As if we didn't know that already. Just thought you might like to know that happened.

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They will be on Ebay tomorrow.

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