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  • Vguy72
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    Hard to listen to WRS?....

    ....well. That was unexpected. LLR? I enjoy the MIDI thunder versions a lot.
    Like the one in the Dave's 44 Eugene release. Which I am listening to now.
    But what was expected, is the fact that the republicans got the house yet have yet to decide on a speaker. The infighting is....embarrassing. If they can't lead their own party, how can America feel regarding them leading the country? Thanks trump. He is the dog poop on the foot of this country.
    Make America Grateful Again!!
    My political post for the month.

  • LedDed
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    Skip, indeed...

    I always skip LLR. It's a bummer song. I don't know if D&C or Wolf Bros. ever covered it but I think even Bob mostly shades it now. Also hard to listen to Weather Report Suite until it picks up and Jer starts ripping toward the end.

    Skip any song Brent sings lead on and for some reason, I usually do let the Vince songs play. I don't know why. There aren't that many, for one. He isn't a good singer but no one in this band was, ever... they grow on you. Brent is just too over emotive even singing background some times.

    Always fast forward or skip Donna's horrible, atonal, unbearable screeching on "PITB," as well. It's embarrassing.

    No band with any significant output was ever on 100% all the time. It's not important or honest to claim reverence for every second of recorded output of any musical entity, even the GOGD.

    \m/

  • Mr. Ones
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    Who Asked Me??

    Nobody.
    The last dozen or so comments have brought up a combination of memories & intrigue.

    When I found a band that I liked, I would purchase EVERY release by that band, without thought. It never occurred to me that I might not like every song on the album. But I eventually became aware of the inevitability that the longer (most) bands continue on, it’s less likely that the music will continue to have the same quality as in the early days. It’s almost illogical to think musicians will continue ad infinitum forever. While there are certainly exceptions to this thinking (most of whom, to my ears, are bands whose sound is constantly evolving and changing), by and large, most bands fall into this inevitability. I had to chuckle when I read STILLWATERS’ comment. As much as I WANTED to like every song by a beloved band, as I got older, I realized it was OK to not like every song!!
    Regarding the Dead, it wasn’t until Mars Hotel that I was taken aback by my distaste for a couple of those songs. And starting again with Shakedown Street, every album had multiple songs that I did not like.
    As far as Me & My Uncle, it’s the most played song in the Dead’s canon, so while I truly like the song (a cover no less), I’ve simply heard it too many times.
    Regarding my 3 all-time favorite musicians: John Lennon, Miles Davis and Bill Frisell, there are definitely songs by all 3 that I’m not fond of (although with Frisell, it’s pretty much only 1 album). Not going to list any, too boring, takes too much time.

    Regarding our beloved critters, I suppose it’s always going to come down to time, expense or both. I just get SO MUCH from them that I’m more than happy to pay those two costs. As I age even more, I imagine I may change, but I find now that cats are less costly, and need me less than any dog would.
    Sorry about being wordy, I just felt inspired to add my 9 cents worth.

    Music is the Best!!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Skipping songs

    Since most of my show going was after Brent (saw him 4 times), I used Vince songs as a Set 2 pee break so that I wouldn’t have to miss any Drums/Space.

    Sometimes I skip LLR, sometimes I listen to it. I like LLR’s with Donna, and yet skipped one a while ago when driving.
    It may actually be the fact that I’m driving and don’t really want to hear a certain song at that particular time, and that ⏭️ button makes it so easy.
    Sometimes I skip FOTD, and other times I listen to it and think it’s really good.
    I don’t skip Row Jimmy ever.
    Will skip Vince songs except Baba>TNK. It’s not Vince himself, it’s that Hunter wrote cheezy lyrics. Musically the songs aren’t bad.
    Sleazy Answers is a pee break.
    Wave To The Wind…… well, I’m sorry for Phil with that one.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Dawn of the Dead

    I got it on DVD years ago (I’ve even posted about it in past years), and I think it’s pretty good.
    In fact, I had watched it many times before Long Strange Trip came out, and I didn’t really think that LST was significantly better.

    It has good old footage, including stuff that isn’t on LST.

    Edit:
    Yes, TC is there, and it focuses more on everyone’s early music roots than LST does.

    Oh, and why is Cutler being interviewed from his van in LST?

  • Cousins Of The…
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    You can watch it on your favorite streaming service; just did a quick spot check, and it looks legit with video clips and interviews(Tom Constanten is there, for one.) Might check it out later tonight.

  • Oroborous
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    Yeah, me too…what gives Conekid, dont think I’ve ever heard of it?

    HA! Captcha was wrong! Asked for taxis, showed a picture of a Stanley Steamer van but thought it was a taxi!

  • nitecat
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    icecreamkid - Dawn of the Dead

    Hey there Icecreamkid, would you recommend this doc? Is it a rip off or a worth while investment of 2.5 hours?

    I'm not completely up to date on reading here, so forgive me if there has already been a detailed discussion of the doc's merits.

  • daverock
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    faster you go..

    I generally prefer faster songs to slower ones as the years have gone by. Maybe a bit contradictory -as you get older you might think slower ones would appeal more, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Not just with The Dead - its the same with The Stones, who I have also been listening to since the 70's. Songs "Wild Horses", or "You Can't Always Get What You Want" haven't really stood the test of time for me. Rockers like like "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Brown Sugar", on the other hand, still sound great .
    Ditto with The Dead - only in there case it's more the interaction of the musicians in jams that appeal (or not), rather than specific songs. If you listen to the same bands for a long time, it may be inevitable that you like and dislike different things about them as the years pass.

  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    The smell is coming from INSIDE the house!

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Those of us in Blighty don't get full tracking even when you sign up to UPS.The reason being is that they are sent economy post, and they do not track the item, from leaving the USA.
However you do get false emails from UPS when an expensive box set is ordered,and you pay over the odds on postage.

BTK... seems like we were at alot of the same shows in the early 80's .... I will never forget Halloween at the BCT ... it was all the heads dressed in costumes that made the shows, although "Halloween Space" was pretty trippy as I recall. And I missed the BBQ, dammit! Maybe next time ............tc

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The ones with meandering intros are the best. :-)

I am dabbling in June 76. 6-11 to be specific. But, 6-9 is another grate one...

We get the Bean sound again in Dec. 78. 12-17 has an Eyes of the World, but it's minus a real long intro...

P.S. Crosswalks

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the Grateful Dead were the greatest band ever, there, ok.

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The GD is the Dark Star at the center of this galaxy.

Sometimes we go to solar systems, planets, moons, etc. in our bizarre galaxy. Vacations, rants, joys, whatevers, hockey teams, trolls, und so weiter.

Just scroll past the stuff you don't want to read, and read the stuff you do want to read.

Keep on orbiting the Dark Star, y'all, and share what you will.

God bless us, everyone, and God bless the GD.

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Check one of the other active discussion boards.

This board is open mic night.

Red Wings started good……

DaP44 departed Fontana, due Tuesday.

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Bi-Curious George

A comet: Buoy the mascot.. WTF.

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not follow Deedee. What would YOU like to talk about?

Ya see many of us have been talking too much about the GOGD for so long that we’ve covered a lot of ground, and well, like a big family we discuss, or fight, about all kinds of things, but if you start a good GD topic, someone will most certainly reply…

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Those 1984 BCT shows were a lot of fun. I'm surprised you didn't see me , I was the guy with the long hair and a very cool tie dye t shirt. I bought the tie dye t shirt along with a very cool Rick Griffin poster outside at the very first show. I bet there were a lot of other folks who post on this forum that were also at those shows. Anyway, good to hear from you, have a great day and a great Holloween.

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over on the 2023 DaP Subscription page this morning between TimP and Keithfan. Things I didn't know about Keith and the keyboards he played and when.
Ya just gotta poke around DD.
Cheers
My 44 now tracking, due Wed.

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send me a PM with the details and I'll get the Doc on the case and also alert the tech folks that all is not as it should be.

As it turns out, I put the "ass" in asteroid this time.

I entered the wrong expiration date. A 5 looked like a 3. DERP.

"Got two good eyes but I still don't see."

Mea culpa, Marye.

I apologize for acting like a grumpy old man, Marye. How do you tolerate monitoring us?

Wait, I AM a grumpy old man.

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Ahoy, maties, 44 is shipped! Supposedly. Now comes the part where the post office doesn't know where it is for about 4-5 days, and then it takes another 4-5 to meander across California, as if traveling via dosed coyotes, and I'll get my copy about a week from now. Whatever. I'm used to it by now.

The Revolver deluxe edition sure looks a money grab. You get 5 discs: a new remix, a mono mix, two "sessions" discs of outtakes and demos and whatnot, and then a disc with nothing but mono and stereo versions of Paperback Writer and Rain. Now, Revolver is only about 35 minutes long, so the remix AND mono versions PLUS the Paperback Writer and Rain tracks could've all fit on ONE disc. Talk about "milking it."

The thing is, I wouldn't mind hearing the remix. The original stereo mix has always been a problem; there's way too much stereo panning, The mono mix is great, but it doesn't do justice to the swirling psychedelia of Tomorrow Never Knows. So I may have to break down and get the two disc version, which has the new stereo mix (all 35 minutes of it) on one disc, and then a disc out of outtakes. I think I've probably bought that record at least 5-6 times now, since getting that first copy from K-Mart for I think $1.99 back in the Pleistocene Era.

Good on you guys for remembering Steps Ahead! I'm a tenor sax player, so I'm obsessed with all things Michael Brecker (who was really The Guy on tenor after Coltrane) so I've got all the Steps records that he was on. I actually like them better than the Brecker Bros, whose studio recordings often suffer from overly slick production, IMO. (Though the live recordings are great!) Those first few Steps records with MB, especially Smokin in the Pit, are really really good.

Just listened to DaP 25. I do this a lot, where they announce a new release, and I get excited about it, but it's months before it's going to come, and so I listen to whatever GD I've got that's from the same tour to tide me over. So after they announced the Portland shows from October '77, I pulled out this gem (from a couple weeks later). Man, that has got to be one of the great first sets ever! Second ain't bad, either.

And speaking of baseball ... (OK, more like, "since nobody is speaking of baseball"): what an amazing World Series opener last night! Houston gets off to a 5-0 lead, had Verlander on the mound (a pitcher who was 99-0 in games in which he led by 5 runs), and the Phillies somehow come back and win 6-5. If I can't have my Giants in the post season, I can at least enjoy the schadenfreude of an epic upset win over the Trashtros.

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Sonic genus and amazing to listen to. Sounds unbelievable…

No comment on costs….

But it’s f’ing Revolver! Just saying…

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That was one of the best baseball games I've ever seen last night. They were playing Grateful Dead music going into the commercial breaks, Throwing Stones and Foolish Heart.

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just got a signed copy of Ken Babbs' new book Cronies Adventures with Ken Kesey, Neal Cassady, The Merry Pranksters and the Grateful Dead. Reviews looks like fun, more Dead tales.

Revolver release haven't heard it yet but looks good, It's The Beatles and it's Revolver. nuff said.
Last 5:
America 1st lp
Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here MFSL Original Master Recording
Grateful Dead 3-24-95 Set 2
Moody Blues On the Threshold of a Dream
Steve Miller Band Book of Dreams Original Master Recording
Beatles Revolver Original Master Recording let's see if the new release will sound as good as this one.
jumping all over the place today.

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Got Dave's # 44 and Revolver box set today and I am a big Phillies Fan Big day to listen and Watch

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Just back from a wonderful vacation on the Oregon coast. Watched a ton of hockey on TV.

Ya know, when I eat pork chops, I never let the mashed potatoes touch the chops OR the string beans. It just doesn't seem right.

I hear there's a World Series going on. Cool. More hockey. Planning next year's vacation, even now. And though I don't care about hockey, I think I'll just start watching a ton of it.

And then commenting here in detail on every single game. With breaks to discuss how to avoid having my mashed potatoes touch my pork chops.

Okay, I get the joke. "DeeDee" is actually Bobby Weir, but he done yanked his own chain a leetle too hard.

....I also don't like my food touching each other. In fact. I usually spin my plate around and eat the offerings one at a time.
The Wild/Red Wings game just started and Minnesota scored a minute and a half in. Muted of course. Dave's 42 on the stereo.
Detroit misses Yzerman. At least on the ice. He is their GM after all. Spent all 22 years with them. You hardly see that in any sport anymore.
I see heads are getting their Autzen's already. Sweet!!
Just checked my mailbox. No Dave's. But five political fliers. All the Republican ones just parrot each other regarding how they/you/me can help stop the steal by voting for them and nothing else. No plan. Luckily, my trash bin is just feet away from my mailbox.
Time for a beer.

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Great choice for a release. Jerry’s very inspired all night long, with an uplifting edge to every note played during the marathon second set. Massive versions of Eyes, Uncle John’s Band, Miracle, and Dew. The drum loops in the percussion segment is one of the trippiest ever.

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See article from Rolling Stone “Jerry Garcia's Lost Pipe Has Been Found After 30 Years -- and It Still Smells Like Weed” on the internet.
Amusing.

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Vocals almost inaudible buuuut you can hear lots of instrumentation

Worth at least one listen in your lifetime

Can't read article no subscription

I'm sure that pipe is kinda nasty

PF - That’s odd you cannot get the article, because I don’t subscribe to that magazine either, it just came up on my news feed, but the article has been picked up by dozens of outlets.
The pipe appears to have been made by the one and only Owsley Stanley, driven by only one owner - Jerry - and lost for many years behind a bed at Merl Saunders home. It is a cool looking thing, and as Owsley designed jewelry, quite unique!
I hope you can find it, at least the pics of it.

You’re welcome.
It’s a cool looking pipe, isn’t it? I never owned one that fancy, I chose function over style, but I had buddies with some pretty elaborate ones. More like art pieces. Even the boxes they kept them in were more intricate than anything I had, almost like they were ceremonial.

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Stanley was a man of great talent and vision, and we all reap the benefits of his sonic acumen still.
Glad you all liked the article.

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Excellent show with a killer Dancing in the Streets, possibly the best Cassidy I've heard, stellar Let it Grow and superb Scarlet/Fire. Ran into Billy the Kidd there, he borrowed my comb and never returned it, dammit!! Regardless, this show would make a great pick.

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the pipe or the cool logos Rhoney Stanley, Owsley's ex, carved into it.
The reclining cat from Cat's Down Under on the bottom of the bowl.
The crouching tiger from Jerry's guitar on the front of the bowl.
Wonder how much Steve Cabella had to give for it?
Says it needs to be seen but not just in some pot museum.
And no one will be smoking it, he says, that was Jerry's job.
Obviously priceless!
Cheers

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Cousins, thanks for the comb, I still have it. Its s an ACE, its a beauty.

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You CAN hear three guitars

No drums or keys

An odd one. Worth a check after you have heard everything else.

Article...will pursue furthur. Get it? Furthur? Haha...ha...lame.

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It's a Betty Board of their set opening for the GD in London, May 26 [guess the year]

The band is tight, Marmaduke's vocals are pretty disciplined, the setlist is fun, the show fills an 80 minute disc and Betty's recording is her usual stellar stuff.

Great band! Caught 'em a few times in '72-'73, with the GD and without. Great fun. "Highly" recommended.

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38 years ago today,( you know where I was at). along with Cousins and alot of other great folks who post on this forum, the BCT, for a rocking night with the Good old Grateful Dead. This was my favorite show of the whole run, but they all were great! After the show, we stopped at Everett & Jones BBQ down on San Pablo Ave for some great bbq. My brother saw Rock Scully in Everett & Jones after a Dead Greek show one night, probably picking up some bbq for Garcia.

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The other day I went to one of those "celebration of life" things for a friend who passed a couple weeks ago, a drummer who I'd played in a couple bands with. He was very well liked, so there were lots of people there, lots of mutual friends I hadn't see in a while. And after catching up with one friend for a while, he tells me a story about how he went to the Sweetwater to see Ramblin Jack Eliot a few weeks ago, and Bob Weir saved the day,

Jack, who's over 90 now, was apparently drunk. At first it was funny, and it seemed like maybe he would pull it together. But it soon became apparent that, no, he was too far gone, and this was just going to be painful for all concerned. Jack couldn't remember lyrics, couldn't remember what story he was trying tell, couldn't play, and it was just ugly.

Then, who should appear from backstage but Bob Weir, with a guitar. Weir sets up on a stool behind him, and helps Jack through a couple songs, playing guitar to back him up and reminding him when he can't remember the words. But after a couple tunes it's clear even this is unworkable. So Bob puts his arms around Jack, helps him off the stage. Then he comes back, apologizes to the audience, and offers to play a few tunes. Which he does. Plays and sings his heart out, in fact.

Bob's a good dude. As if we didn't know that already. Just thought you might like to know that happened.

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They will be on Ebay tomorrow.

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