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  • Strang3stofplaces
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    I actually never said that you can't post political things, what I originally said was "it'd be great if these forums could try to focus on the music, reddit does exist after all". To back that up, I gave an analogy which, because you missed it, is a comparison of sorts like how you wouldn't talk about Adam and Eve in biology class, not that you couldn't. If you were able to read rationally, you'd see that I, several times, said you can post whatever you'd like, but that's not the literal topic of this forum. Not really room for debate on that, just kind of obvious. Hey, maybe you didn't know there are forums out there on the web where you can discuss whatever the topic may be, it's really cool actually. Again, for a place that's designated as a discussion on Dave's Picks, we're not doing a whole lot of that, but hey is what it is, right? As for me being an election denier, thanks for the assumption, and I'd guess you're old enough to know what they say about assumptions, right? Also, you equating my suggestion to talk about the music more to a politician denying women the right to advocate for women's rights is just as ignorant as the politician. I'd suggest you just read a little slower or maybe throw some fine tunes on, smoke a big fat j and relax before you feel the need to take so hard of a stance.

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    Jack - That halibut meal (sans artichokes) sounds amazing. A bunch of us had halibut on the weekend, but it was “Fries with that?” kind!
    Hey, didn’t I tell you and Oro those Sabres would be a team on the rise? Give them a couple of years.

    Headline in my news feed today: “Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson stubs out fans smoking bud at heavy metal concert”. I gather the bass player for IM has an aversion to cannabis. The times they are a changin’

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    I just glanced at a couple articles so don’t really know much, so I’m not sure Jeff? It sounds like it just got invented so I’m guessing the Woodstock thing is something else?
    You can check out stuff on Peter Jackson’s Let It Be which is where and what for the tech was developed. Giles Martin has used it via PJ for Live at Hollywood Bowl and Revolver redos.
    Somewhere the description is used: I was given a cake and when finished I had eggs, flour, sugar, etc…
    Very interesting prospect. I just wonder how that effects the original sonics but I’m guessing GM wouldn’t let it get released on Beatles redos if it wasn’t proper?
    But yes Jim it does propose a Frankenstein esque scenario, and I’m not sure of anything anymore, but I’d bet the farm that some Deadheads would most certainly have some kind of problem with it, especially if it was good lol
    Theoretically this couid be a game changer for all old music…

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    So, I just went to the store and ordered it. Thanks for the heads up, folks!

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    Scary-ass film

    Wait, no...Wickerman. the OG.

    my car is on loan this week to a family member, so very limited opportunity to listen to GD.

    11 1 79 is in progress; back to it ASAP.

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    Interesting sidebar. There is a part of me that is really curious about how this would work and sound. There is another part of me that wonders how this would be received if Norman et. al. adopted the technology and set it in motion. I remember the feedback he got when he messed with Phil's bass a dozen or so releases ago.

    My guess is even if the techology were rolled out so others could use it wouldn't necessarily go over well. Separating out the individual components from the two tracks and monkeying with the levels might drive some bonkers. I bet it would be controversial at best. Well.. at least had Bear, Betty & Co. to save us some of the agony.

    Be well folks.. play dead, get the vote out. ..or as DHBrewer says, be kind.. rewind (to 1969).

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    Bobby gets pretty political....

    ....just saying.
    Some more '77? I'm good with that 👍.

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    Hey ORO, Didn't they use the same technology or a similar instrument-separating technology on the 50th anniversary mega box for Woodstock? IE: Got BS&T's individual horns, etc. back in tune, etc. Would be very cool if that became available for future and/or revisited Grateful Dead releases.

    Probably old news to many, but I only recently ran across this. It's sort of a poor-head's way to listen to individual players on the China-Rider; Bertha; Playing in the Band; Sugar Magnolia from Veneta 8/27/72:
    dead dot net/playingintheband

    Sorry, but my optimism for the future is very low these days. I always thought that TRUTH was not a fashion or something to be molded to fit one's personal world-view and needs. We are losing/have lost the ability to listen and learn from others. Daverock's quote bears repeating: "Think it possible that you may be mistaken."

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    I'm having a problem following your posts. First, the Grateful Dead was/is a political band, you said so in your post. Mentioning the rainforest benefit shows in 88 and specifically calling out 5-6-70 right after Kent State, I'm presuming that you must mean Phil's comment after the show? We all said that multiple times back in the day. Then you say there is no room on this forum for politics? Sucks for you and all the people who want to talk about the band and the music? A bit inflexible I would say, but hey, that sucks for me. Your condescending tone about the internet being a big place and there are other places for me or anyone else to post about other topics than the music or the band is just like a politician telling a woman she doesn't have control over her own body. Somehow I get the feeling that I'm speaking to an election denier, and I know that is a waste of time so I will end with this You don't get to tell me where or what I can say, dig it? On this site, only MaryE gets to do that.

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    Damn, that sounds wonderful! I was all "died down", then I see someone calling, I think, me a selfish asshole. At least I didn't see it to be directed elsewhere. So look someone's gonna throw mud around and not even have the decency to direct it at me, I'm not gonna be quiet. But I'm all done arguing over this nonsense. Seriously, talk about whatever you want, I'll just inject my thoughts on whatever the release might be.

    Dave's 2023 announced with 45 looking to represent two spectacular shows from 10/1 and 10/2/77. Hot take but I love the fall tour even more than the spring, though I won't sit here and say the spring is not audio gold. There's a great Miller remaster of the Betty boards on the archive, check those shows out if you're unfamiliar, they are hot hot hot. Scarlet > Fire on the second night is especially so and new minglewood on the first is my personal favorite. Always hoping for 6/10/73 and 6/21/80 (also 71) so we'll see if any of those are one of the later picks.

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39 years ago tonight, we really cut lose with the Good old Grateful Dead, what an absolute knockout of a good time. Tickets were very hard to get for these two shows, but somehow we got lucky. Cousins or Nite Cat, I bet you guys were there. Crazy fun times.

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No place else to put this, but I hope there is a 30 Days of Dead starting tomorrow. Now back to my regularly scheduled pipe.

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It was Gracias return to the stage after his coma. He had played 2 shows at the Stone in S.F. 2 weeks before. The show was Garcia's band and King fish with Weir. Garcia opened the show Kingfish closed. I was used to seeing Garcia at the tiny Keystone in Palo Alto, I thought his band was kinda swallowed up in the larger Oakland Auditorium. I hadn't seen Kingfish since they had David Torbert and Robby Haddinot in the band, I wasn't that knocked out by this version of the band. It was great to see Garcia back onstage, but this show would pale to when he played his first gig with the Dead on 12/15/86, you just had to be there, and lucky for me I was.

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I was there indeed; I was the one with the huge "10 Days since the Last Day Job" banner. Lo and behold, they played it; one of those magical GD moments.
I did run into Nitecat, if my memory serves me well. Marin Civic was a small place, very nice to catch them there. I saw a great Jerry band show there in early '78, part of it made it to the Pure Jerry 78 release a few years ago(I think Hunter's Comfort opened...)

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BCT in this week's Tapers.
And keep your hands off that candy. It's for the kids.
Remember that house that always gave out the full sized candy bars?
They busted us when we came back for seconds.
Cheers and happy Halloween

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Hey Vguy, actually, it's North Carolina, Asheville. He played last nite and the nite before too, the fellowship of the ring was night one, the two towers was last night and tonight will be the return of the king. He plays Asheville Halloween, last year it was the Wizard of Oz. Quite a trip, check out the write up on facebook, Billy as Frodo, Base player as Gandalf...tickets went faster than last year, there are a few for resale but they are 400. scadouchers or so. Went down to check it out and there was a very long line with everyone dressed up as Shire folk, it was quite the sight. Tonight should be really cool. Happy Halloween everyone.

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Cousins, I had an absolute blast at 10/30/83. All my friends were there and we really were out there. We ran into a guy dressed like Ben Franklin and that guy just had us busting our guts laughing. The next night I was the only one to get a ticket, so it wasn't nearly as fun. I was at that Garcia Acoustic show at the Marin Vets that they put out on the Pure Jerry series, it was very cool. I also saw a great Blues Festival in July of 1984 that was held outside the center, Lowel Fulson and Joe Liggins and the Honey Drippers were 2 of the performers.

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39 years ago tonight I was up at the Marin Veterans Auditorium, to hear the Good Old Grateful Dead pull St. Stephen out the hat one last time. I only saw the Dead do St Stephen one other time 7/13/76 at the Orpheum Theatre. It was cool to see them do the song but I had a lot more fun the night before when all my friends were at the show.

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UPS usually provide a few updates as the item leave Fontana, even if full tracking isn’t available. This time 10 days after the first suggestion that it was on its way UPS still say they are aware of the order but don’t say they have it.
Just to show that it isn’t just Rhino, my order through Amazon for the new Garcialive set has been cancelled by them saying it is unavailable! I could order directly but as I’m in the UK it nearly doubles the price just including postage and could also attract further charges in taxes. Since 1 - 18 are still available from Amazon I’ll wait and hope it eventually appears. It’s odd that they cancelled it only a few days after release since I’ve had some items pre-ordered for months before they get cancelled. Enough moaning, I’ll listen to some of the music I already have.

Colin - I had a similar problem with Garcia 19 and Amazon. I preordered it as soon as it was announced, but come release date, Amazon said they may not carry the item (they have since backtracked, but I won’t see it until the 2nd week in November). They have been doing this more and more lately, such as the latest Wolf Brothers release. I’d prefer to order directly from the Garcia family site, but like now ordering from Dead.net, the international shipping and sundry fees to where I am are a killer (not to mention slow, no-tracking delivery), so I don’t order from them directly anymore. It is why I did not renew my 2023 DaP subscription, which is a real piss off, but it is what it is.

I know we shouldn’t talk hockey here, as some members tend to clutch their pearls, but the Second Best Player from Arizona - Tage Thompson - put up six points last night for Buffalo! (For perspective, think Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 point game in the NBA in 1962). I told people to watch this Buffalo team - after years of mediocrity, they have built a very young, skilled team.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled DaP watch.

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Saw Phil last night for the Holloween show at the Capitol in Port Chester and it was very good!! Dwane Betts is a very good guitar player. Another Son of the original Allman Bros playing a GREAT GUITAR While playing "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" I felt like I was back at the Filmore east in early 1971 Saw the Allman Brothers at the Filmore East 3 times and the Last Weenend too. Also did Blue Sky

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I meant the last weekend when the Filmore East closed

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Jorma - Quah, almost autobiographical for him.
Jorma - Magic, live winter of 1984 and much like I saw him 1yr. later in Crested Butte.
Larry Coryell and the 11th House - Level One
Jan Hammer - The First Seven Days
Dap 33 - DeKalb! By recommendation here. Dang that's a good one. Sound is perfect Betty!
Cheers
DaP 44 due here Wed. Lovely!

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Day of the Dead, celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music.

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Quah is the bomb! Such a great album, one I think every serious collector should have in their collection. Jorma never got the props I think he deserved as a guitarist, acoustic or electric.

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Told this story before but saw him in a conference room solo, in '85 I think, in Crested Butte, CO. Very small crowd and we had to wait hours for his hands to quit vibrating from haven ridden from Denver on a Harley. Or so we were told.
Great show, he was pretty high I'd guess but fully functional. So quick you can't figure how he does it even when watching up close. Finger picker extraordinaire!
Cheers

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Very early in the morning of October 22nd I received a shipping confirmation mail meaning it must have been sent from America on the 21st. Later that day I clicked on the UPS tracking thingy. There it stated that the shipment was ready for UPS and that the order information had been received at 12:02 AM on October 22nd. Now, at 1:32 PM on November 1st nothing has changed. The shipment is still ready for UPS and the order information has been received. I know this is the year that everything has turned to shit, but really...
As for GarciaLive 19, I ordered it from a local shop here in the Netherlands for 26 Euros. I ordered it on release day and received it the following day. Amazon in Germany are selling it for 71 Euros. They cannot be serious.

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First Show - That’s an incredible Jorma story, likely the most unique reason I’ve ever heard for a reason for a delay in starting a show! Somehow, too, given his life long love of motorcycling, very believable. I guess Jorma used to teach/still teaches guitar from a ranch property he owns in Ohio. Just weeks ago, an archival release of “kitchen tapes” he and Janis Joplin used to make when she was Janis Nobody, from 1964, were released. You hear about the amazing longevity of players like Jorma, who are still bringing it, or Bob Dylan, or Dead & Co, and so forth. Contrast this to flakes like Justin Bieber, mid 20s, who needs to stop touring because he doesn’t feel fresh anymore, or whatever reason. Good grief. Meow.

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Yay! Made it to the theatre on time, was worried when I had to dodge some deer on the road, close!!! Anyway, '72 Dead here we go!!!!

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Um, no.
What's circulating is superior to this release.

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My 44 shipped last week, and if I’m lucky, I might receive it tomorrow. I have read on another board of a couple of people receiving their copy without receiving a shipping email. So, at this point, I’d be willing to bet you will just receive it without a shipping email.

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Boulder, circa 1981-82, Jorm arrives having driven a rental from the East Coast in more or less one go. Three nights with early and late shows. We caught most all of them, racing up and down I-36 in borrowed vehicles and in a state best addressed without the intoxicants we ingested. Jorma walks into the bathroom, pulls up at the urinal next to me, I'm splashing away and say, "Jorma, I named my cat after you." Barely an acknowledgement. He zips and goes. I'm still peeing when Jorma heads for the door, which slams open and in marches my friend. He grabs Jorma by the shoulder and says quite loudly: "Remember Bay Ridge!" (An excellent tape of an excellent Jorma show, but not exactly "Remember the Alamo!") and Jorma expertly twists out of his grip and escapes. I'm still peeing. My friend pulls up. "You missed it. I was just hanging with Jorma!" I looked at him the way Jorma looked at me. F***ing Boulder!

Yes, about to sip a Pilsner Urquell, dabble in a little bud and head down to the theater. Go PIGPEN!!!!

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3589 has arrived! Yay! Now I may stop listening to MSG 82 and check this out. I can't believe I have to choose between two great releases. Which shall I listen to? Oh the decisions I am faced with. : >

Landed at the remote rural PO box yesterday, too lazy to go get it until today at noon... Just finished the first disc, audio/recording quality is excellent so far. Became an instant Jorma fan the first time I heard Embryonic Journey spring of 1967, age 14, vinyl Surrealistic Pillow. Seen him play a bunch, with JA twice, HT quite a few and his memorably intense version of Sugaree at Dear Jerry Merriweather. My impression, listening to him talk about his music, does not look back, it's out, done, whats next, constant evolution, listening to what he is playing always, never dials it in. He's announced a solo tour, will be near this area in March, fingers crossed no blizzard that night. The nearest MUATM is a three hour round trip, must pass waaaaahhh. Vicarious please.

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Took a brief hiatus, I got too angry and PT Barnum, wanna apologize for the way I spoke to you. Had to take a step back, reflect, and listen to some good ol grateful dead. Found the lyrics of UJB ringing out pretty loud, and realized truly that there ain't no time to hate. With all the division being sewn throughout the world, fellowship over this fine band is a mighty important thing.

That being said, should finally get Dave's 44 in the mail tomorrow and enjoyed searching for the Passenger in 30 days of dead today. Always a challenge, sometimes it's easier than others. Although I haven't even heard 44, I can't wait for 45. Also, gave GarciaLive 19 a listen and the Broadway 87 shows a few listens this weekend, always good music for the soul. Hope everyone is enjoying the start of November.

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Love your story about Bob letting Ramblin' Jack down easy and dignified. Over 90 is a rather suspect time to be punk in drublic, not that I am anyone to judge.

There was no world series game last night, Shirley you must be joking? Phils are going to win it all.

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....grate to see everyone huddling up.
It's all good. We got this.
I have some pretty good weed over here. And enough Grateful Dead for my zip code.
Make America Grateful Again.
I don't do the 30 Days. But fun to read others posts.
I have the Hot Tuna In A Can can. #0121 out of 5k. Any of you have it?
It's a box. In can form. Cue the can-can dancers.
I know where 83% of my physical music is. Found the can and America's Choice is up.
Part of my last five.

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Just received DaP44 in the mail today, been hearing about and listening to the Eugene '90 shows since my friend got back from the shows on June 25th of that year. Heard some great aud tapes and the UltraMatrix but this one is by far the best. Those two Eugene shows are, to me, the best shows of the year. I find it a shame that the show from the 24th has been separated from its sibling; the coolest way to handle it would be to have the 24th be DaP45! But...since that's not going to happen, how about a separate release or a download release? These two shows need to be heard together. You can tell what type of weekend it was going to be just six minutes into 'Feel Like A Stranger'. From that point, they were ON.

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It's amazing how fast these things travel when they need to, mine arrived on 10/31 here in New York. I like it, but I like most releases.

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Caught the "movie" last night. The local movie house struggled to get it going for half-hour, then the boys appeared. The first live shot is of the band from maybe mid-hall and it was grainy, so I feared that would be it for the evening. Wrong. The Danish camera operators really got some amazing footage of all the band members at their tasks and zeroed in on soloists pretty well, including Jer's hands, Bobby's insane rhythm playing and Phil's singing and playing. The clarity of the close-ups was amazing. Pigpen does Hurts Me Too, Next Time You See Me, plays great organ on Truckin' and harp on his own tunes. Someone painstakingly calibrated the audio to the video, it seemed flawless. Add in the fact that the music was executed nearly flawlessly (naturally, Bobby flubs a line in Truckin' by omitting it, but seamlessly returns to the fray). The harmonizing is really good, no overdubs needed. Highlights includes China > Rider and the first-ever He's Gone, in an uptempo version. Jer looks like the cat who ate the canary on this debut. The only downside is that the theater did not serve alcoholic beverages, so it was a good thing I brought a shooter of Jame-o and a pen. I'd buy this film on DVD in a heartbeat. Well worth seeing for anyone sitting on the fence. If you live within reasonable distance, go this Saturday.

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For the review. A+ but I grade on a curve, LOL.
I hope it is released as a DVD. I'll bite.
Cheers

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Hoping around, got Wheel on now.

I think it's a very nice recording.

While I'm here,,, I mention, again.

It's a shame they never took The Wheel to the heights it was capable of. I always wanted that 15, 20 minutes huge jam into huge vocals,,,, small wheel turn by the fire and rod....

One can dream.

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Go see the Tivoli show on Saturday. Interesting on so many levels (especially for those of us who never saw Pigpen), and there is just plain no substitute for Jerry, and as noted the camera crew did an astounding job. We saw it in Berkeley, but see it wherever you are!
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Got #1598 here in New Jersey, lowest number I've ever received since ordering from 30 on. Subscribed since 33. Not really a surprise but the sound quality is absolutely superior to the listening party mp3. Cheers to all who saw it, don't think I'll be able to make the drive to see 4/17/72 on Saturday, bit of a drive from where I'm at, but totally agree that if they release it, I'll snap it up in a second.

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There were several posts here recently with love for Jorma Kaukonen. So wanted to let folks know he'll be on a week long music cruise in the Caribbean Feb 10 - 17th. Since we can't post lynx, just search "Cayamo". Since it's a made up word, you should readily get to it.

I was last on a Cayamo cruise about 14 years ago (where 2023 will be the 15th edition). What I really like about it is all the spontaneous jamming with artists jumping in with others to do a few songs or a full set. Last cruise I was on folks were calling it "The Buddy Boat" because it seemed like Buddy Miller played with just about everyone. Given there are 30+ acts, I suspect we'll see more of this in the next installment.

When I signed up a couple weeks back, there were still a number of rooms left. Just wanted to make sure folks here were aware of the opportunity!

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Just had an email. from Dead.net telling me my copy of Dave's Picks Vol. 48 has been placed on backorder.
Anybody else got the same email ?

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I too received the same weird email, MaryE, got any idea what is going on? should I cancel and reorder? was about to pay the credit card bill but now I will wait, but I would like to know if I have a subscription or if it is on backorder? how could it be on backorder? why are rhino/warner music/deadnet trying to freak me out? I was good during Halloween, I didn't trick anybody, and I gave out chocolate, no po po candy here. Please advise powers that be.

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either, what's up with that? I log in, go to that page and it say's I'm not logged in, glitches instead of witches, I thought Halloween was over. Spooky

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The Dave's 44 CD came today. I admit I don't listen to the 90s. I do listen to 60s and 70s so I know this band's song list extensively. It sounds strange. Cumberland Blues and Me And My Uncle sound tired. Up to They Love Each Other now. It all seems lackluster and energyless. There is some cool Hammond on TLEO. I don't think I'll ever get used to Vince's voice. Some cool mellow jamming at the end of Cassidy but the song part feels uneven. I'm gonna go the whole way on this one. Is it considered a "great show"? I thought everything from 89/90 was considered the great resurgence and shows were all 5 star. Tennessee Jed sloooow. Someone please pick up the tempo!

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My DaP 44 just arrived. Memories! I had started touring this year - Dominguez Hills, a weird spot to get on the bus - but I missed these Eugene shows because I didn't even know they were happening. I just wasn't connected enough yet. Friends got back from Eugene in late June with stories of how great the shows were. This was after I'd also skipped Cal Expo (but not Shoreline) because I was in college at the time and I was already on academic probation, and I didn't want to fail finals and fail all the way out of college. So instead, listening to all the stories and good vibes from Eugene, I thought "Ok, Fall Tour it is!" I didn't fail out of college, but Fall Tour wasn't to be...

I can remember walking on campus about a month later and learning that Brent was dead, and nothing was ever quite the same again. My friends and I got shut out of the early December shows at Oakland. Managed to score a ticket to the night before NYE later that month, but that would be my one and only NYE run. The following December I was down in SoCal, and I remember listening to (and taping) the FM broadcast and thinking it was underwhelming compared to the Halloween '91 show I'd been lucky enough to attend two months earlier. Little did I know that would be it for NYE runs.

Just goes to show that timing is everything. For now, I plan to spend this time transporting myself back 32 years to Summer 1990, when the band was still humming along and Brent was still with us. For those looking forward to this Eugene show, I hope it lands promptly in your mailboxes if it's not there already.

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Three quarters the way through and HOLY MOLY Jer plays and sings such a great setlist and with truly stunning and touching guitar work and that band and that female chorus are from Heaven via Harlem. Oh man. Every single song is outstanding. But check out Ain't No Bread in the Breadbox, cuz Jer gets funky with his riffs and tone in a long jam section where everyone is playing off each other. Trust me on this one. And for October 1992, just wow.

I'll say something potentially unpopular. I checked out of the scene in 1987 after a few years of Jer's decline. My bad, cuz I missed the resurgence of 1989-90. (Did catch the Hornsby GD in Chicago in June 91 and two more in June 92, as well as Jer bands, 1975 to 1991.) But I have to conclude, based on the recorded evidence, that perhaps Jer would have been happier and less morose if he had put the GD to rest and just gone off into the sunset with his own band. You all know I'm a dyed in the wool Deadhead, but Jer's playing in '90s with both bands draws a contrast for me that favors the JGB. At least that's how I feel today after getting my ass kicked by GL 19!

Another contrast: I'm a huge fan of Garcia-Saunders and that early bar band jam thing-y. BUT the latter day JGB with Melvin Seals and the gospel singers just plain rings my bell.

Don't miss the Tivoli film if you can make it.

Over and out, peoples!

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Agree with HF and Marye, this is a film to see. Excellent mix, you can hear all instruments clearly. It's insightful to see Jerry or Bob's fingers play the notes as you hear them. China Rider, the very first He's Gone performance (without the bridge), Truckin', and Saturday Night. There were occasional shots of the audience, many in front were dancing. Also bittersweet to see Pigpen in one of his final performances. He looked very thin. He didn't feel well for most of the tour, but stepped up to every last performance. I also enjoyed seeing Bob and Jerry singing duets on some songs, like Me & Bobby McGee. Hair on the back kinda stuff.

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