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  • JimInMD
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    Ha

    You guys are a trip.

  • Oroborous
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    Commando?

    Isn’t it getting a little cold for that?

  • hendrixfreak
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    Paybacks are hell (or ironic)...

    Senior Schoolmarm here, aka HF. And I like going commando!!!

    Doooood, heh heh heh, I did see that I misspelled malapropism and decided to leave it just to TEST YOU. But I had not expected to get whacked over the head with "how ironic," which in Latin literally means "you are so effin' stupid!" But well played my man, well played.

    Man, that one cat who couldn't stand our personal stories and demanded GD-talk is probably gonna need some of the psilocybin (sp??) therapy mighty soon.

    So I'll just give my 2023 predictions here and now:
    WotF 50th augmented by ... er, aren't all the '73 shows three-disks? Maybe Rhino would prefer a four-disc 50th? Maybe they have a shorter show fragment? I originally thought that the Watkins Glen soundcheck would be perfect, but that would run counter to a '73 box. So... [drumroll please] I'll state that if the box is '73, the WotF filler will not be the soundcheck. If the box is not '73, they're going with the soundcheck, one-disc addendum.

    IF (and that's a big "if") the annual box is Summer '73 then they've gotta combine June 9 & 10, July 27 & 28 and July 31 & Aug 1. As June 9 and July 28 had a few non-stellar performances, say they cut a few songs or use the soundcheck with WotF and omit June 9 and July 28 and add two more '73 shows. See, there's the issue with a Summer '73 box: June 9 and July 28 may not stand up as full shows.

    Maybe, as someone suggested, they do a 50th on Bear's Choice and break out all the Feb '70 FE material in the vault. (Three nights, two shows per night; how much do they have??)

    And if they play those two albums to the hilt for '73 value, the box could be anything -- the '85 summer tour, which would save me beaucoup $$.

    If Houdini was the greatest at extricating himself from multiple restraints, may I claim to be the greatest at tying myself in knots?

    Signed, Senior Schoolmarm (going commando)

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    Why I outta 🤨

    Ha, damn new math, oh wait, that’s not right, Damn spellcheck! It’s this damn spellcheck I tell ya, every FW update seems to make it worse, at least that’s my story and I’m sticking too it!
    So I apologize Senior Schoolmarm for my incorrect spelling. Hopefully I can do some extra credit to fix my grade?
    But, BUT! If your going to reprimand me with big grade ten words (ala Ricky in TPB) please use the proper spelling ; ) which according to the online dictionary is “Malapropism”, not Malpropism. Oh the irony LOL.
    And yes, I had to look it up lol.

    So no harm no foul as I’m assuming at least you, if not others, may have experienced joy and laughter from my gaffe!
    Hey everybody has something in life their good at, apparently my new excellence is fucking up, which if it brings laughter is ok. I just wish it didn’t keep costing so much!
    At least now I know a new word, which will give the Other One yet another way to rib me, especially when I start talking “Rickyisms” i.e., “it’s like getting 2 birds stoned at once” instead of killing 2 birds with one stone etc.
    So thanks for giving her more tools, (like she needs any help lol) to prove me a fool, and point out my ongoing Malapropisms!

    But hey, at least my intel was correct, so have fun out there but be careful!
    oh yeah, don’t forget skin cancer screening too. Top C killer that unnecessarily takes too many folks out, that early screening could avoid etc. Which reminds me I haven’t….but really need to, cause damn near everyone here at altitude seems to have issues. I don’t even want to think about all those summers waaaayyy BITD when we went to the beach a lot and used oil to fry ourselves, idiots…

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    Listen to Senor Nappy...

    Great comeback story, Nappy, all the best to you. I might add that my father, who passed away in June at 93, had malignant cancer of the lymph nodes in 1974 and went the full-on surgical route, no chemo. Over the intervening 48 years he had various cancers crop up and, with EARLY DETECTION (nod to Nappy) he beat 'em all and lived longer than most of us will. So, early detection and immediate action and a lot of good luck and some will beat the Big C.

    I myself am undergoing a self-colonoscopy later today using a cattle-prod and a miniature camera...... KIDDING!!! They've snipped out a few pre-cancerous polyps in the past, so I'm running on good luck.

    My endoscopy is overdue (had to wait for Medicare to kick in) but I'm scheduled for Nov. 30 now.

    For those of you who cannot stand this type of TMI in lieu of GD content, be patient. There will be some drug discussion now, then a teeny tiny tidbit on the GD at the end. Hang in there!

    So, hats off to Oroborous for the malpropism of the day: "Shrooms are not legal in CO, their decimalized, which is nice, but not quite the same thing." In my case, I like a full dose, not a decimalized dose....

    But Oro is correct: boomers have been decriminalized, not legalized. I think that means they can't bust ya for possession or use, maybe just selling? That's obviously a half-assed solution... cuz how would one obtain unless you cultivate your own? BUT decriminalization is always good, unless you're talking murder. As Oro pointed out, the sponsors of that ballot issue want folks with trauma and PTSD to have expert help in moving on through supervised therapy and this is a step in the right direction. The mere mention of "mescaline" in the ballot question gave me goose bumps. Mescaline is the very best, so I may need a little therapy... (Or, according to some (shut up Oro), I may need a LOT of therapy.

    Never did get busted for psychedelics. On the other hand, I did face a handful of felonies for cultivation in the mid-80s and beat the rap. Had a massive Indica crop at 9000 feet on the New Mexico border. In the case of cannabis, legalization has been a mixed bag. Just prior to legalization, top shelf bud was $400/oz, and legalization cut that to ~$100-$125. Some writers have backups like carpentry or other intelligent money makers; my backup was always cultivating, so that hurt. But at least no one is going to do hard time for head stash. On the other hand, there are strict limits to possession and harsh penalties beyond that, which we don't need. But once you legalize and tax it, the revenuers want their share or you're going to the slammer. So, mixed bag, no pun intended.

    Oh yeah, the GD: I read that Pigpen had bad stage fright and they'd have to find him, corral him and get him on stage. Once they got going, he said he was okay. With Bobby, I have little sympathy. I mean, no pain, no Jane, right? You want the fruits of being a rock star, you get your ass out there and make it look easy! Otherwise, no soup for you!

  • proudfoot
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    Weir has dyslexia apparently, but stage fright?

    that guy?

    ha.

    "stage fright
    stage fright
    oh baby
    not me not me not me"

    - Lemmy

  • bluecrow
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    Weir stage fright

    wow - surprised at how serious it is. just crazy to imagine having to put yourself into and through that space each time. and so many times in one's life. He mentions Jerry too. In 1982 Jerry played a show solo acoustic and it was so tough for him to be out there alone for that show (4/10/82 Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ) that he quickly brought in John Kahn to play bass for later acoustic gigs that spring and summer (and beyond). A little bit easier when there's somebody out there with you.

  • Vguy72
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    Google Bob Wier news....

    ....apparently he suffers from severe stage fright? News to me. I know Dennis DeYoung of Styx had it bad, but not Bobby.
    Which reminds me. I haven't listened to Styx in awhile. Pieces Of Eight sounds good.

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    Back to the business at hand - DaP 44 Autzen

    Just got home last night from some backcountry work in the land of Smokey the Bear down by Capitan, NM. DaP #44 #12767 quietly waiting in the PO Box. Saw these shows with my good girl (at that time and still a good friend), my first shows in the PNW, and it was everything that Dave says. What a great laid back easy groove weekend of excellent music. I look at pictures of the crowd and read the #s as to how many people and its sort of amazing cause it felt far more intimate than what those would seemingly indicate. Which brings me to the cover art - seems to me that the forest scene with the sun orb is actually taking place in Autzen itself, so a reflection of that whole more "cozy" and laid back atmosphere. Will set the time machine for a "deep forest" listen next few days (who knows, maybe even today!)

  • bluecrow
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    Thanks for sharing your story Nappy. So sweet a gift to get that kind of response from treatment. Since we're on the subject of screenings just want to specifically point to another screening test that absolutely should be on your list guys if it isn't already - PSA (prostate-specific antigen). While not as black and white as to whether prostate cancer is actually present, the test is simple (blood draw), cheap, and a valuable tool for potentially catching the bad stuff earlier rather than later.

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holy crap Vguy, just read your previous post about being accosted by a lunatic in the grocery store with a concealed weapon because you had on........a dead shirt that had a really great message on it. Make Amerika Grateful Again. It's a good message, it's not really making fun, is it? I have seen this shirt and I think it is awesome. In the grocery store, concealed weapon, what the hell is happening to this country? It has all ready started, the republicans and the last person in the white house who shall not be named, are all ready talking about rigged elections. It may be too soon to say it, but is it over for this experiment that is a free republic? I voted, I made sure my 96 yr old mother in law voted (blue) and I have signed up to take people to the poles who can't get there on tuesday. That's all I can do. I won't go out and antagonize crazies who are poll watching or conceal carry to intimidate anyone, but I will do what ever I can to stop this madnesss that is trying to take over this country. You showed great restraint Vguy, when he grabbed you, how did you not remove his hand, did you grab his hand and ask him to let you go? How did you get him to let you go? was it the crowd? cowards Make America Grateful Again, political rant over and apologizes to any and all who I might have offended.
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Since you ask. Not here in UK yet. Mine is still in CA awaiting processing in Fontana. After 2 weeks I finally have an alternate tracking number, that ends FR so it is going to go to France once it starts moving. Should be here in the next couple of weeks but that’s normal.

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Barnum: well said

Vguy: you showed admirable restraint. If that had happened to me, cops may have been called.

Be well everyone, except... you know who.

\m/

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Drummer and Singer with Low. I’ve enjoyed their music for many years.

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....to answer the question, he let go of me on his own. I think he realized that people around were starting to take notice. Some phones were starting to come out. Like I said, he wasn't exactly whispering and I'm glad a video of the interaction didn't hit social media should that conversation had gone on longer. The entire event lasted maybe 30 seconds.
I'm not 100% against conceal carrying. I mean, I own a couple of firearms. Would I conceal carry though? No. But I do worry about the mental stability of those that do. Its a slippery slope of a topic. That dude had crazy eyes though and the last thing I was going to do was stoop to his level of anger and stupidity even though i did feel my blood pressure rising. Not worth my time.
It's the day and age we unfortunately live in and will not change overnight.
Time to tune into the Dolphins vs da Bears. Wearing my Marino jersey today. Muted with TTB on the big boy stereo.
And extra hour of sleep today was nice.
Here's a hot take. I think America was great before you know who ran on a campaign saying that it wasn't.
Now, it's not too great. Thanks jerk.
I will piggy back pt's comment of so many admitted election denyers running for political offices. Concerning to say the least.
Ain't no time to hate. Barely time to wait. Take care out there peeps, because you never know.
Thanks for bearing with me. Y'all are the best 💚

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Has anyone ever had to reach out to Dead.net about a botched delivery on a Dave's Picks? Mine was marked "delivered, in/at mailbox" on Thursday but was not there and has not popped up in subsequent days either.

If I reach out to Dead.net is there any chance they'll ship me a new copy?

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....happened to me once. Said it was delivered, but didn't actually show up until three days later.
Dave's 40 I believe.
Pm Marye. She has our backs.

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Their Christmas EP is a tradition in our house Xmas day. I like that one a lot.

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....to all the movie heads out there, may I highly recommend All Quiet On The Western Front on Netflix.
Intense with grate cinematography.
War is hell.

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To answer my own question, the a capaella version of Brokedown Palace is by The Persuasions from a 2000 cd called Might As Well, The Persuasions sing the Grateful Dead

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....I will check them out. Parry doing the research. Thanks Frank!
It's a far gone lullaby
Sung many years ago
Mama, mama, many worlds I've come
Since I first left home.
Chills.
GG in Chicago. Moving on from TTB to King Gizzard's Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava. Solid album from front to back. Psychedelia greatness. Found out they played here in Vegas in April. Right before I discovered them. Doh!!
I'll catch them eventually.

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Yes Frank! I'll be looking for that one.
Love The Persuasions.
Cheers

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V, I am also a handgun owner, and long time NRA member. If I'm out in public, I almost never carry. I live in a primarily crime free 10 mile area, and have no need to carry such a weapon, but my apartment is a different story. I feel sorry for the sap who breaks through the door at night uninvited. He better be armed to the teeth. Especially if my daughter is over. David Crosby got into some trouble over the years for gun ownership, but he is famous, and a little crazy. I have a lot of respect for guns, and I never used them for harm.......or did I? Dap 44 sure builds up in speed as it plays. Good show.

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'Love buzz'. I used to love Mariska veres back in the late 70s. It's a pretty defining song that was the 60s.

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YEP. I love all in the family. I think Lionel said it. What movie?

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Guns?

Statistics show you're more likely to shoot a loved one or have it used on you than you actually shooting "the intruder".

(great Gabriel song)

I was shocked to learn (recently) that half the handgun deaths are suicide!

Finally, I always think of the Harry Carey's line from Angel and the Badman.

The only man who needs a gun, is a man who carries a gun.

Hope I didn't start a huge argument like I mentioned politics,,,,,, or Andy Williams. I will never understand the Andy haters!

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.... did I read right?

Does Taylor Swift have all 10 slots of the top 10 taken up?

That's a wild thing!!! I don't think I'd could tell you one TS song!

And now Dennis the evil bastardo is ratcheting up the fear machine with threats of Andy Williams!
The Horror!

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While sorting thru an enormous amount of "stuff", came across "Art Jackson's Atrocity - Gout" album.

Anyone hear of it?

Was supposed to be a joke or mystery album?

Supposed to be psychedelic album,,,, a quick jab at a few cuts showed maybe,,, maybe a fusion album. But the web pages that came up intrigued me.

Knowledge and thoughts?

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Don't let the sweaters fool ya. Andy could cut a bitch faster than you could say Englebert Humperdink!

Moon River deep enough to hide, I dump the bodies there you see.

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Anyone else remember the tv special ‘The H Andrew Williams Kaleidoscope Company’ where Andy went ‘hip’? My limited memory of it has a guest appearance by Simon and Garfunkel.

Dennis obviously has a Blank Space for TS but I’m sure he can Shake It Off otherwise ‘We are never, ever, getting back together.

All in the Family was based on the UK show ‘til death us do part. This is a show which is difficult to watch now with its casual racism and bigotry but did lead The Monkees (Mickey Dolenz) to write ‘Alternate Title’ which was originally called ‘Randy Scouse Git’ after the name used by Alf Garnett in the show for his Liverpool born son in law.

I’d advise everyone to get out and vote to Make America Sensible Again but it’s not going to happen. This, of course, is coming from someone in a country being run by a group of expletive deleted.

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A one hour musical special that aired on April 28, 1968 on NBC. Guest stars included: Ray Charles and The Raylettes, Burt Bacharach, Simon and Garfunkel and Mama Cass Elliott. Quite interesting use of the kaleidoscope meaning with appropriate for the time psychedelic backgrounds and some excellent music.

Never saw this and I was a big andy fan. Watched his tv show every week. ah, the cookie eating bear and mr echo.

This might be up to watch,,,, I'm going back to check.

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Andy is just a bit milquetoast for me. But you like what you like.

If he had covered Waiting for the Man by VU, that would have scored him some points from me.

"It's the most wonderful rush of the year
my skin it is itching
my eyes they are twitching
and now I'm strung ouuuuut"

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I replied to our old friend FourWinds comment on the Dave's 43 thread, but this is worth a repost here. Shoutout to our dear friend FourWinds

This one's for you HendrixFreak

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Regarding Fall '72 Reels, Google Dick Latvala Introduces The Philo Stomp

It will bring you to a David Gans radio broadcast with guest host Dick Latvala on the Grateful Seconds blog where he seems to introduce the term Philo Stomp. Philo Stomp is a whole other conversation totally worthy of exploration.. but back to the point, Dick suggests there is a cache of Bear Reels that seem to not be indexed or included as vault shows but do exist, many of these from Fall 1972.

To quote Latvala from the hijacked Gans radio broadcast:

"I did go into Bear's Secret Stash and I did find a lot of fall '72 shows...."

Check it out. An interesting and pertinent chunk of history.
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In other news:
Americans told not to lick psychedelic toads

Hikers in the US have been warned to “refrain from licking” psychedelic toads. Officials said the Sonoran Desert Toad secretes a potent toxin that can make people sick if they touch the frog or get the poison in their mouths. The substance is sometimes crystalised and smoked as a psychedelic substance, said the New York Times. However, writing on Facebook, the National Park service described the potential risks as “toad-ally terrifying”.

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Andy Williams and guns? Can't think how we got here but it did remind me of Andy's love Claudine and a rhyme from a curious incident. "Along came a Spider and sat down beside her, and she blew the poor !@#$er away." Determined to be an accident under suspicious circumstances as I recall. Sabitch was a hell of a skier. Now back to Eugene for a second go.
Cheers
Oh, and there's a Philo Stomp in today's 30 Days 'o Dead.

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Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down
They're going to destroy
Our casual joys
We shall go on playing
Or find a new town

Profound words on The Doors title track to their second album. My company just laid off 25% of IT. My team is now down to two, same headcount when I joined the company almost 10 years ago and we've grown 500% since then from an infrastructure perspective. I thought I was done, but I architected the latest and most complex solutions we have, so might have bought some time.

Unbelievable VGuy - you have such a gregarious personality and being towering in height, not sure what was his major malfunction. Glad you didn't go Gunny Sgt Hartman on the loser: "What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?"

Loving DaP44 - reminiscent of the great shows I got to see from '87 onward...

Still working my way thru the MSG box - Glad they have this era represented but kind of a tough slog for me. Not having Bobby's guitar in the mix was a bit of a shock for the one of the shows on the yearly major release. I'm sure I will enjoy the nuances of Jerry's guitar with more listens.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle dot com. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle dot com. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle website. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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I saw Elizabeth Cotton play at the Sweetwater, also saw Frank Wakefield and David Nelson play there. We would always stop at Village Music before we went to the Sweetwater. Great little place to see music.

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Sorry for the multiple posts. Problems with Captcha and website operation.

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I saw David Nelson there at the new venue also just before the pandemic IIRC. Also Eric Thompson, a good local bluegrass picker.

Village Music was definitely an institution, lots of the famous used to stop in there.

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Great guitar player, I saw him and David Nelson play over at the orIginal Freight & Salvage a couple of times, I taped both shows. We would always go to Everett & Jones Bbq after seeing shows in Berkeley

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You provide a tantalizing glimpse at what could be.... the discovery of the missing first reel to my first show, 9-19-72, which may still await us in Bear's mystery reels. I have alerted the OSF to look for that 1st reel setlist and get that entire show archived. Naturally, at the time -- a newly minted 15 year old with only GD records for reference -- I couldn't have told you that it was a hot show, only that it went on so freakin' long ("What are these people ON? Ohhh....") But we know with the benefit of hindsight that late August to early November '72 that band was on a streak.

Lettuce prey!

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Road Trips and Dick's Picks.
Once a year CD sale.
DiPs 2, 11, 14 are back again too.
Cheers

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1stshow beat me to it, but man there's some tasty stuff and I went for it like a fish for the hook.

Jesse Ed Davis solo CD
Willie Nelson earliest solo demos
Art Blakey (just becuz)
Bob Wills & Texas Playboys (just becuz)
DP 34 (inexplicably missing from the collection, which has lots of hot Nov '77)

I had to resist ordering duplicates of Feb '68, April '69 etc because ... why???

On to speculation for the 2nd Dave's for 2023, which is to be revealed prior to subscription shutdown in ???

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Anyone else had the following situation? I ordered a Dave's Picks subscription on day one of announcement and had my credit card charged but on payment screen received a message "order could not be placed". No email confirmation or order number received despite payment taken.
Dead.net support not replying to my emails. Very poor service as I have been an annual subscriber from DaP1.

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I am going with 10/24/72 with bonus from 10/23 or two shows from July '74.

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2 full shows from Owsleys boxes from 1968, 1969 or 1970. One full show will be the bonus disc.

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1st guess- 7/27&28/73
2nd- 6/10/73 with po 6/9
3rd- 5/26/73
Last 3, 4? Years, second pick has been 73 or 74. Last year was 74, so…?

WOTF bonus: 9/15 or 17/73. If you count WRS all as one song these are the only 2 shows with 6 songs off the album and their good shows!

Box: summer 73

I suggest placing another order using a different browser, and even a different credit card.

Then tell the first credit card company to cancel payment because the retailer does not have a record or your purchase.

Also, you don’t need to create an account to place an order, you can check out as guest.
Worked for me.

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