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  • daverock
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    Thanks for the kind words. I am sorry I caused you offence in the past. I can promise you it wasn't intentional - if it ever happens again, do drop me a PM or say so on the board-I am sure it could be cleared up in a jiffy.
    Maybe I should say, I come from a background where people voiced there disagreements with each other quite forcibly. My family were like that, and at work we had team meetings almost every day where people were usually at loggerheads with each other. Assertiveness bordering on aggression. It's no excuse,to justify current bad behaviour on past experiences - especially when you are in your 60s - but it can help to understand it sometimes - and help us to try and do better in the future.

    I agree with what you say about arguing - whether it's about The Dead or the weather - its an ugly thing to be engaged in or witness. But to discuss things with people you respect, but who have differing views - I have always loved that. There's nothing worse than being with people who only like you if you say things they agree with. Well...there is...but you know what I mean.

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    I sort of view those folks I know here as brothers from another mother.

    These are strange times, but weird is what we do best. Be yourselves and allow plenty of room for respect. Do no harm.

    As you were.

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    VGK and the Sharks....

    ....are on ESPN toknight. Just sayin'.
    Edit. Watch. Don't listen. Play music instead. ESPN announcers are garbage.
    Listening to some Bowie instead.

  • proudfoot
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    A little slow on the uptake, but...

    The two 77 Portland shows!!!

    THAT should cleanse yer politically-goobered palette, everyone.

  • Vguy72
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    Well said Noah!!....

    .... 👏👏👏👏.
    Also, these recent Weir/Wolf Bros/Wolfpack shows are incredible!

  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Hi Ones,
    I can understand that urge to escape today's madness in this forum. But, like you, I also enjoy hearing the insights from folks here, no matter the topic. And how far we've come! Remember Garcia's "Lame 80s" as he called it?

    It was the 1980s, the money decade. Charitable causes and activism, often tied to the values of the 60s were considered quaint and out-dated by my aspiring "Alex Keaton type" fellow business majors at our college. I decided to enter a college essay contest, "The United States and Peace in Central America". My essay wasn't perfect, but in my 20 year old mind, it was fairly good. A few weeks later, I received a letter instructing me to pick up my award at the registrar's office. It was a $20 check (for second prize). But then they told me the bad news - they had cancelled the awards ceremony. It turns out that nobody else even bothered to enter. A professor later said "You're 20 years too late". But amidst those huge crowds at the shows, I had met many kind people, and I knew in my heart that it was just a matter of time. I replied, "Trust me, you'll be seeing more of us very soon". I then placed the "Back by Popular Demand" peace sign sticker on my bumper, and never looked back. Until now, that is.

    My point is, people actually care about issues today (and sometimes they even agree). And the Dead phenomenon helped to leave something special behind that transcends the music and permeates much of today's culture. A reminder of our common humanity. Without taking a position on most issues, the band helped to provide a gathering space for like-minded souls to connect with each other prior to the rise of the internet. My first peace sticker was actually purchased at a Dead show at a time when you couldn't find one in a store. And today, I carry both hope, and very profound sadness about how far we still have to go. Nobody should have to watch the news, and unexpectedly find themselves reduced to tears. But that is the world we live in. Finally, thank you to everyone here for sharing your unique perspectives. I look forward to when we don't feel the need to discuss those hard truths...perhaps in a few more lifetimes.

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    Please report to the PM Centre.

  • adedhed68
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    For the shipping feedback!

  • That Mike
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    Yes - I received my shipping notice last Friday (21st)

  • simonrob
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    Shipping notice for #44

    I got a shipping confirmation mail from the GD Store very early on the 22nd. With the time difference across the pond it was probably sent from the US on the 21st. At this moment UPS tracking sez "order information received" but they haven't yet received the goods.

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I wish you called the cops, that's assault and battery and with a concealed weapon probably aggrevated assault. If you're over 65 you're in a protected class. Did it bruise where he grabbed you? Aggrevated assault. It was a politically motivated incident so that's a hate crime as well. You could have put that guy in jail and made headlines against the cheeto.

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Not from 73.

Unless, unless, unless,
DaP46 w/ bonus, the bonus discs with the 50th studio albums, and the Box, all combine for an even larger Box.

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....I'm not over 65 and I'm not that much into that type of drama. I just wanted to go home and grill some hamburgers.

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as to DP 46 that is. The suggestions might be generalized as clustering around '72-'74, but Billy the Kidd really rang the carnival bell with a bold and near-and-dear to my heart '68, hedged with '69-'70.

I'd just say that they're running low on '74 show tapes; there are a finite (but recently increased) number of '68 tapes; and yes, will they go with or avoid synergy between a Dave's and the annual box.

Six-show boxes seem to be a thing. How far will they go tying 2023 to 1973? You know they're gonna do a 50th Wake of the Flood, the question there is how closely will they tie the bonus live material? Especially given the question of whether they feel the box has to tie in to the 50th as well. And still leave something in the vault for the future. I can't get my mind around the fact that the PNW box came out five years ago.

My gawd! Jim -- did you throw that lever in the Wayback Machine marked "DO NOT THROW THIS LEVER!!" ???

One door opens in front of me, a thousand close behind. Every step is a new world. Either that or I'm doing a bad imitation of Forensic Doc's zen koans!!

Somebody HEP ME!!! (Oh no, now I'm thinking the final scene in the original "The Fly"!!!!!!!!)

Actually, I jumped on the forum to post that DP 44 is a fun show and the band seems in fine fettle, especially Jer. Not happy with Phil's zooming on bass -- seems lazy and unmusical. Nor does thunder help LLR. Otherwise this sucker rocks! Pleased, for a '90. (Now "The Fly" has been replaced by an insatiable urge for a "90 Shilling"... Jim! Smash the glass! Throw the freakin' lever! Ignore all warnings!

Ah, folks, this has been a trying day. Time for a puff, a shot, a Spaten Munich lager and an electric guitar. [Camera fades to black as protagonist fades into couch..................]

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Nobody deserves that Vguy and your response was more courageous than I think I would have managed. And definitely not judging you, just saying, this guy you encountered sounded like he had a screw loose. And honestly I get mad to think he feels he owns the street like that or in this case a grocery store. Maybe the next guy he sees wearing a Biden shirt or putting up a Dem sign gets worse than a grab to the arm.

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....you don't see Biden shirts. You don't see Biden flags. You don't see very many Biden bumper stickers. Because sane people don't worship politicians and put them on pedestals.
Shits changed so much on the past 6 years it's exhausting.
Btw. I'm not a huge Biden fan either, but I'd rather vote for a wet sock than
that other dude.
I will be changing my avatar tomorrow.

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If early January 1979 recordings were to miraculously appear, I'd say 1-10-79 with its amazing Dark Star. Won't happen though.

Last 5:
9/20/82 MSG
DaP 44
The Voice of Tony Burrows
The World of Marmalade
The Cowsills the Rain, The Park and Other Things

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I feel like DaP 46 has to be something in the 68-74 range. Now I know that is very broad. Maybe it will be some of those September 1970 shows? Or something else from that year? Maybe Dave will dip into 1968. I just feel like that one will be something from that time period that we have wanted for a long while.

I think Wake of the Flood will get a companion 1973 show attached to its 50th anniversary release (how about 2/15/73, one of my favorites?)

Bear's Choice also has it's 50th anniversary so that might be the one that gives more 1970 show(s). They could fill out more from the February Fillmore East run but I am fine if they change course and go with a 1970 show from later in the year. As long we get a heavy dose of Pigpen, as Bear's Choice was for him, well I am good.

If the 2023 box is from 1973, I can easily see 6/9, 6/10. 7/27, and 7/28 being the shows that make up the bulk of it. However, I am not opposed if Dave went in a different direction for a 1973 box as well.

Finally, I am calling this now: For either DaP 47 or 48 Dave and CO will finally give us a summer of 1985 show, maybe 2 even shows for another 4 disc release.

Seeing the movie last week got me all riled up for all things '72...I started working for the Cal Forestry mid January '72...I was about 30 miles north of Weott CA on Ave Of The Giants...about two months later I was moved to a forestry camp outside of San Luis Obispo on the road to Morro Bay...I took a leave of absence for three weeks in June...why? Cuz I needed to see the Rolling Stones at The Long Beach Arena, Dead at the Hollywood Bowl and follow that up with Zeppelin again at Long Beach...spent the rest of the Summer driving back and forth between our SLO camp and a spike camp we had in Big Sur...harsh job, que no? that September a friend of mine and I took a train to LA from SLO to see two Dead shows at The Hollywood Palladium....had to miss Pink Floyd at the Bowl doing Dark Side though...come December I went home to visit familia for Christmas, eat tamales and see the Dead at Long Beach...yes yes yes....I think I was the youngest at the movie meet up last week, about 20 of us all told, the 1:00 PM showing...

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53 years ago tonight I was at The Fabulous Forum in Inglewood to see two shows with The Rolling Stones, BB King, Ike & Tina Turner and Terry Reid....there was a hockey game that afternoon and the make over for the seating and the stage took longer than was originally thought...the shows were delayed a few hours...we walked out as the Sun was rising...some fun...and how may you ask am I so sure of this? It was my 19th Birthday which makes today my 72nd....Feliz to all...

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And many happy returns Nappy
Cheers

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What a great show for your 19th birthday Nappy, B.B. King alone would be worth the price of admission. I spent the night in Weott once, back in the early 70s .

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....dude. You looked barely 60 when I met you. And that wasn't twelve years ago. Good job.
Stupid hockey. Delaying everything ha!
Knights are 12-2.

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1/10 with some 1/20 bonus disc! 😎

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy to the Napster!

“I just want to grill some burgers” Priceless!
The Senator, Fish AND Kinights looking good Winthorpe, feeling good Todd

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Vocalist Nazareth

Now you're messin' with a
A son of a bitch
Now you're messin" with a sonofabitch

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Happy Name Day NappyRags! Hope you enjoy the next trip around the sun and many more to come.

So today is a show day for me, as is this Friday - going to see my first ever live Goose show in Portland Maine tonight; they are sharing the bill with The Trey Anastasio Band, each doing a 90 minute set with flip flops and mashups expected. Goose vaulted onto my radar over the summer, when Trey sat in with them at Radio City for one set in late June. I was fixated. I had seen them perform at the 420 Festival earlier this spring, as well as at Boston calling later in May, but they didn't really resonate fully until my strict attention had been applied. What a rabbit hole this has been and am looking forward to some new experiences and live grooves. And interesting switch-a-roos of the teams.

I'm enjoying Dave's 44 immensely, given this show was right in the wheelhouse of my first show in Buffalo less than a month later. That sweet & drippy Eyes to open the 2nd is like a warm blanket.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Feliz Cumpleano chamaco!

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Some of the shows people here have seen amaze me. The '69 Stones tour with BB and Ike and Tina -- jealous!

Vguy, you are dead-on with the non-worship stuff. Good on you.

Looks like a very Nappy day out there....

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Nappy! Happy B day and keep on keeping on.

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interesting little show last night on NOVA

therapeutic effects of psychedelics (psylocibin and MDMA, mostly)

worth a look-up

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Sorry to read that Dan McCafferty died recently. Nazareth were a stonking good band live - when I saw them they played Morning Dew. Good slide guitarist in that band , too.

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Best belated wishes, hope the cake was suitably enhanced. Steve Kimock and Zero concert Saturday at the monkey was excellent, already posted on archive. Loving the calls for DaP 46 and release of Tivoli show video dvd/bluray. Last five:
LoneGone: Redman & friends
Toolin' Around Woodstock: Arlen Roth w/ Levon Helm & friends
Down Where the Spirit...: Lucinda Williams
Eudemonic: Steve Kimock Band
Alligator 25th Anniversary Collection

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Dennis - While I wait and wait for 44, I was catching up on all things Dead, and I’m still phucing laughing at your Andy Williams-Sopranos bio: “ Don't let the sweaters fool ya. Andy could cut a bitch faster than you could say Englebert Humperdink!”

Seriously, we all know his chick Claudine never shot Spider. Andy wasted that prick.

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Sorry about the lunatic, I'm not here to talk politics, but when someone can't even handle someone wearing a shirt you don't like, he might want to re-consider his "values" and consider some sort of cult intervention. I've got this GRATE shirt, it says "Will you shut up, man? - Biden 2020" Gotten some dirty looks (grow up snowflakes) but nothing physical. If I feel something like that could go down I reach for the phone and put the camera on video immediately. Wear it with pride bro!

Tracking info says it arrived in town 12 days ago and still not out for delivery. I guess if it had to be my turn with delivery issues, I’m OK with it being this release.

And for all of you who listened to my advice, not to get mixed up with bitcoin, you’re welcome.

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Read 9 pages to see what happened. Completely unbelievable story Vguy72 but I guess I should not be surprised these days. Sorry for your scary episode. Like the other dude said, you should go back and file a report there has to be store video of it. You got off without him drawing on you, but someone else may not be so lucky. I can't recite the law the way that guy did but the way he used language with you like "our message" sounds like he was not just your average idiot voter. He sounds like he belongs to a group of idiot voters. Hearing you telling about his crazed eyes and beat red face. I really hope this guy isn't gonna snap somewhere else. Sounds like there's plenty of Biden shirts out there, so I don't know how much your theory holds up, but I want a Biden "will you shut up man shirt". Good one Burnsey.

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....got em all lined up. Pretty.
And, I will say once again. That encounter was a blur. I didn't know what to think or how to react. I was caught off guard, but I think I handled it well. In fact. I know I did.
Seems I'm very approachable, for good or ill. I just try to smile at everyone I meet and look at them and make eye contact. Definitely not an introvert here because people (mostly) are awesome.
My job requires me to meet and greet several every day.
I forgot the cream cheese btw, but I wasn't about to go back in the store ha!
Random event that ended ok and I know the people around me had my back.
I just got a Phish Food tie-dye delivered today from Dry Goods.
I will wear it often and hope I don't make lactose intolerant people upset.
The Grateful Dead should put out a Cherry Garcia version. I'd buy it.
Mental health in this country needs to be addressed as well, but I digress.
Surround yourselves with people that are kind minded and you are already ahead of the curve. Peace.

I'd like to step up on my soapbox for a bit...On Nov 7, 2007 I was diagnosed with Stage IV Renal Carcinoma...after surgery to remove my right kidney AND the best care anywhere I underwent Immunotherapy with the drug Interlukkin 2...within a few months of the process it seemed there was no growth in the tumors I had in my lungs and my Aortic lymph nodes...soon after that they were shrinking and within 2 years I was cancer free.....fifteen years later and here I am typing away...we have all been touched in way or the other with this foul illness and the main thing I want to say here is please please please get routine check ups etc...right now a dear friend of mine was told after his first colonoscopy that he had a malignant polyp which was removed and now he faces a few months of chemo, luckily just oral medications and he should be fine...BUT...he is 58 and if he would've done the colonoscopy at an earlier age it probably wouldn't have come to this...so please...get your regular check ups and make sure your loved ones do too...now...back to our regular nonsense...

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Muchisimas Gracias! Many Thanks!

Positive Vibes your way. Stay healthy and keep sharing!

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....yeah. I really need to get on that.
In other news, it was announced that U2 will open the brand new MSG Sphere here in Vegas on September 29-30. Next year is also Phish's 40th anniversary. You heard it here first that they will play The Sphere on Halloween.
(and as additional proof, my reCapcha just now was traffic lights. I mean, we're all slaves to them, right?"

Shrooms are not legal in CO, their decimalized, which is nice, but not quite the same thing.
The reason for the proposition was to make it legal for clinical therapeutic use for such things as traumatic PTSD, depression, alcohol addiction etc Research has shown special clinical use to have great positive results with these terrible afflictions, especially in the case of ex military folks etc.
Interesting book and Netflix series How To Change Your Mind all about this, even the FDA is on board!

NAPPY: right on, glad you made it and yes boys and girls none of us is getting any younger so get those tests!
Oh, and the procedure for Colonoscopy now is not bad like the old days. Only hard part is starving yourself for a couple days and even that’s not so bad, so don’t think about it, just do it, lean over and kiss your, er…oooppss wrong announcement.

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Thanks for sharing your story Nappy. So sweet a gift to get that kind of response from treatment. Since we're on the subject of screenings just want to specifically point to another screening test that absolutely should be on your list guys if it isn't already - PSA (prostate-specific antigen). While not as black and white as to whether prostate cancer is actually present, the test is simple (blood draw), cheap, and a valuable tool for potentially catching the bad stuff earlier rather than later.

Just got home last night from some backcountry work in the land of Smokey the Bear down by Capitan, NM. DaP #44 #12767 quietly waiting in the PO Box. Saw these shows with my good girl (at that time and still a good friend), my first shows in the PNW, and it was everything that Dave says. What a great laid back easy groove weekend of excellent music. I look at pictures of the crowd and read the #s as to how many people and its sort of amazing cause it felt far more intimate than what those would seemingly indicate. Which brings me to the cover art - seems to me that the forest scene with the sun orb is actually taking place in Autzen itself, so a reflection of that whole more "cozy" and laid back atmosphere. Will set the time machine for a "deep forest" listen next few days (who knows, maybe even today!)

wow - surprised at how serious it is. just crazy to imagine having to put yourself into and through that space each time. and so many times in one's life. He mentions Jerry too. In 1982 Jerry played a show solo acoustic and it was so tough for him to be out there alone for that show (4/10/82 Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ) that he quickly brought in John Kahn to play bass for later acoustic gigs that spring and summer (and beyond). A little bit easier when there's somebody out there with you.

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Great comeback story, Nappy, all the best to you. I might add that my father, who passed away in June at 93, had malignant cancer of the lymph nodes in 1974 and went the full-on surgical route, no chemo. Over the intervening 48 years he had various cancers crop up and, with EARLY DETECTION (nod to Nappy) he beat 'em all and lived longer than most of us will. So, early detection and immediate action and a lot of good luck and some will beat the Big C.

I myself am undergoing a self-colonoscopy later today using a cattle-prod and a miniature camera...... KIDDING!!! They've snipped out a few pre-cancerous polyps in the past, so I'm running on good luck.

My endoscopy is overdue (had to wait for Medicare to kick in) but I'm scheduled for Nov. 30 now.

For those of you who cannot stand this type of TMI in lieu of GD content, be patient. There will be some drug discussion now, then a teeny tiny tidbit on the GD at the end. Hang in there!

So, hats off to Oroborous for the malpropism of the day: "Shrooms are not legal in CO, their decimalized, which is nice, but not quite the same thing." In my case, I like a full dose, not a decimalized dose....

But Oro is correct: boomers have been decriminalized, not legalized. I think that means they can't bust ya for possession or use, maybe just selling? That's obviously a half-assed solution... cuz how would one obtain unless you cultivate your own? BUT decriminalization is always good, unless you're talking murder. As Oro pointed out, the sponsors of that ballot issue want folks with trauma and PTSD to have expert help in moving on through supervised therapy and this is a step in the right direction. The mere mention of "mescaline" in the ballot question gave me goose bumps. Mescaline is the very best, so I may need a little therapy... (Or, according to some (shut up Oro), I may need a LOT of therapy.

Never did get busted for psychedelics. On the other hand, I did face a handful of felonies for cultivation in the mid-80s and beat the rap. Had a massive Indica crop at 9000 feet on the New Mexico border. In the case of cannabis, legalization has been a mixed bag. Just prior to legalization, top shelf bud was $400/oz, and legalization cut that to ~$100-$125. Some writers have backups like carpentry or other intelligent money makers; my backup was always cultivating, so that hurt. But at least no one is going to do hard time for head stash. On the other hand, there are strict limits to possession and harsh penalties beyond that, which we don't need. But once you legalize and tax it, the revenuers want their share or you're going to the slammer. So, mixed bag, no pun intended.

Oh yeah, the GD: I read that Pigpen had bad stage fright and they'd have to find him, corral him and get him on stage. Once they got going, he said he was okay. With Bobby, I have little sympathy. I mean, no pain, no Jane, right? You want the fruits of being a rock star, you get your ass out there and make it look easy! Otherwise, no soup for you!

Ha, damn new math, oh wait, that’s not right, Damn spellcheck! It’s this damn spellcheck I tell ya, every FW update seems to make it worse, at least that’s my story and I’m sticking too it!
So I apologize Senior Schoolmarm for my incorrect spelling. Hopefully I can do some extra credit to fix my grade?
But, BUT! If your going to reprimand me with big grade ten words (ala Ricky in TPB) please use the proper spelling ; ) which according to the online dictionary is “Malapropism”, not Malpropism. Oh the irony LOL.
And yes, I had to look it up lol.

So no harm no foul as I’m assuming at least you, if not others, may have experienced joy and laughter from my gaffe!
Hey everybody has something in life their good at, apparently my new excellence is fucking up, which if it brings laughter is ok. I just wish it didn’t keep costing so much!
At least now I know a new word, which will give the Other One yet another way to rib me, especially when I start talking “Rickyisms” i.e., “it’s like getting 2 birds stoned at once” instead of killing 2 birds with one stone etc.
So thanks for giving her more tools, (like she needs any help lol) to prove me a fool, and point out my ongoing Malapropisms!

But hey, at least my intel was correct, so have fun out there but be careful!
oh yeah, don’t forget skin cancer screening too. Top C killer that unnecessarily takes too many folks out, that early screening could avoid etc. Which reminds me I haven’t….but really need to, cause damn near everyone here at altitude seems to have issues. I don’t even want to think about all those summers waaaayyy BITD when we went to the beach a lot and used oil to fry ourselves, idiots…

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Senior Schoolmarm here, aka HF. And I like going commando!!!

Doooood, heh heh heh, I did see that I misspelled malapropism and decided to leave it just to TEST YOU. But I had not expected to get whacked over the head with "how ironic," which in Latin literally means "you are so effin' stupid!" But well played my man, well played.

Man, that one cat who couldn't stand our personal stories and demanded GD-talk is probably gonna need some of the psilocybin (sp??) therapy mighty soon.

So I'll just give my 2023 predictions here and now:
WotF 50th augmented by ... er, aren't all the '73 shows three-disks? Maybe Rhino would prefer a four-disc 50th? Maybe they have a shorter show fragment? I originally thought that the Watkins Glen soundcheck would be perfect, but that would run counter to a '73 box. So... [drumroll please] I'll state that if the box is '73, the WotF filler will not be the soundcheck. If the box is not '73, they're going with the soundcheck, one-disc addendum.

IF (and that's a big "if") the annual box is Summer '73 then they've gotta combine June 9 & 10, July 27 & 28 and July 31 & Aug 1. As June 9 and July 28 had a few non-stellar performances, say they cut a few songs or use the soundcheck with WotF and omit June 9 and July 28 and add two more '73 shows. See, there's the issue with a Summer '73 box: June 9 and July 28 may not stand up as full shows.

Maybe, as someone suggested, they do a 50th on Bear's Choice and break out all the Feb '70 FE material in the vault. (Three nights, two shows per night; how much do they have??)

And if they play those two albums to the hilt for '73 value, the box could be anything -- the '85 summer tour, which would save me beaucoup $$.

If Houdini was the greatest at extricating himself from multiple restraints, may I claim to be the greatest at tying myself in knots?

Signed, Senior Schoolmarm (going commando)

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You guys are a trip.

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....I had to break out my slide rule and compass for that list.
VGK up 3-2 in Buffalo after two. Sabre fans booing Eichel every time he hits the ice. Love it.
Edit. Eichel scored. Whoo-boy. His celly
was awesome 😆
Edit edit. Eichel had a hat trick. Knights 13-2 and no signs of slowing down. Swept the road trip and coming back home.

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