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  • estimated-eyes
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    The sitting down or standing up at shows is a vexing issue. Pretty much every show I went to until the mid-2010s was a stand-up affair. Dancing or not, when the band was on the stage, most of the audience was out of their seats. The first time I ran into the issue in a significant way was at a Tedeschi Trucks Band show at the Morris Theater in South Bend, IN in 2016. I went solo and scored a 4th row ticket on Trucks side on the aisle. Looking around as I took my seat, I read the crowd as a sitting crowd, but I got up plenty and made myself as inconspicuous as possible (tough being over 6') in the aisle, but most folks stayed sitting throughout. After their main set, they come out and they are tuning up and a lady from the center yells, "Can we get up and dance?" Susan told us we could do what we wanted, get up and dance, sit, whatever. They proceeded to play a Bitches Brew jam that seriously melted my face, though I was probably one of only 10 people in the crowd who knew what they were playing.

    On the other end of the spectrum was a Phish show on Northerly Island in Chicago about 2012 or so. This was a GA show in a largely undeveloped field on this island. The night previous they had the set abbreviated by a big storm and promised a three set show this night. First set rocks and they go into break and think I can sit down and rest (I was in my 40s at this point in time) for the next set. Nope, Phish fans were constantly jostling for position, bumping me, stepping on me. After the 2nd set, I figure folks must be tired and want to sit down-- nope, more jostling. I have not attended a Phish show since-- if I can't sit down at set break, that is f-ed up.

    I am of the mind, let folks do what they want to do, like Susan said. Sit, stand, dance, whatever makes you happy. But, also let folks do what they want to do. Now, if you are a sitter, that may mean you are not going to have a good view for the show if the person in front is a dancer/stander, but that is the trade-off. At TTB this summer in Aurora, IL, it was a sitting crowd, so I went with that, however, when I did get up and explore, the sound was considerably better from a standing position.

  • daverock
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    Great watching Croatia knock Brazil out of the World Cup earlier today. Those Brazilian players are the worst behaved of any I have seen recently. The white haired ones seemed the worst. Fouling as often as possible, pretending to be fouled themselves, crying when they lost. What a shower. You wouldn't want to be standing behind them at a gig.

    Seeing your name reminds me, Colin, I may order that new King Crimson box before Christmas.

  • Colin Gould
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    Another book

    It’s dangerous to browse the internet. I was looking for some other stuff and ‘The Lyrics of Syd Barrett’ appeared on the screen. I couldn’t resist it. It apparently came out last year but I missed it.

  • billy the kiddd
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    "What's Become of the Baby"

    "Waves of violet go crashing and laughing. The rainbow winged singing birds fly round the sun. Sun bells rain down in a liquid profusion. Mermaids on porpoises draw up the dawn. What's Become of the Baby this cold December morning?"

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Obnoxious show goer

    Does anyone remember Allison?

  • Vguy72
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    33 years ago today....

    ....the Grateful Dead played The Forum in LA. Spencer Davis and Bruce Hornsby sat in.
    It's a grate show.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Nice-ness = good

    Nitecate you found the formula for making friends and influencing neighbors: asking nicely. A genuine smile and a look directly into someone's eyes often does the trick in modifying annoying behaviors. Unfortunately for me, there are certain lines in my face that I cannot hide, so I hope to distract with eye contact and a big smile. I can do that at least twice a year.

    Oro -- I'm on the mend. Had a 9-day follow-up today with a fresh EKG, exam of my entry wounds by a very nice looking young woman, and fresh advice on taking it easy another 20 days, with six meds per day (some twice) so I have something to do.

    Interestingly, and it's a bummer, that my local Dead Hippie Brewing is closing, so we're headin' there tonight as on most Thursday nights for an open mic gathering. The owners, Dean and Cheryl, are about as nice as you get and their hospitality and vibe has been infectious. You can walk in anytime, talk to anyone, hang, make friends and on Thursdays play your ass off and everyone is grooving on the great beer selection and the parking lot scene. Sound familiar? I often play Pigpen tunes and that automatically gets a rise out 'o the crowd, tunes like Easy Wind, Mr. Charlie, Operator, Big Boss Man (okay, Jimmy Reed ala Ron McKernan), I think there's others... oh yeah, Alligator acoustic (try it, it's actually a children's song when done sing-song acoustic).

    Poncho -- do you know the Setlist Program? It could be the source material for your Xcel spreadsheet, but you'd have to do data entry for 2,000 shows. We hardly knew ye when ye dropped off the face of the Earth...........

  • nitecat
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    HF - obnoxious show goers

    HF, your story reminds me of a time at a Dead show. We were up front in our space and next to me was a large woman in a very furry sweater. Furry like prickly almost. And she kept rubbing my bare arm with her prickly sweater. Very annoying. I had to ask her nicely to move further away from me.

  • nitecat
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    Poncho - Deadbase Jr.

    Poncho, there used to be a little softcover pocketbook called Deadbase Jr. It had every known show and setlists. Not so overwhelming as the oversize Deadbase, but from the same people. Not a spreadsheet, but easy to deal with. Don't think it's published anymore. You might pick up one on ebay.

  • Mr. Ones
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    C'mon VGUY, if I knew that was YOU, I'd have no problem with you dancing in front of me, just tell the other 26 people to get the H*LL out of my sightline!!

    1STSHOW, LOVE the critters!! My experience with trying to capture good photos is to make sure my phone is ALWAYS nearby. The best shots I have only lasted for seconds before it would have been too late.
    For the record, I like Hobbes (with an E), and Big Boy Pete!! Lots of possible nicknames with those 2.

    Not sure what to do, so I think I'll listen to some music. It's the Best!!

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Just picked up:
Oscar Peterson
Louis Armstrong
Puss n Boots
Joss Stone sp?
Lindsey Sterlings latest

Maybe the Monkeys wouldn’t be so bad lol

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Your collection probably needs the Fleetwood Mac ‘Worlwide Live’ unofficial Box.
10 CD’s for $40.
8 Fleetwood Mac CD’s ranging from 1968 at the Carousel to 1990, along with a Stevie solo and a Lindsey solo.
Sounds pretty good. The only show that I already had was the 75 show. FM/pre-FM sources.
I figured that for $4/CD I should check it out.

Saturday Day Tripper says Vguy…..

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...is playing (the whole show) on Sirius today.

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....yup. Caught that nitecat. Sounds really good.
It's only a matter of time before the Ark happens.
Coming around.
"And when the day it ended"
Sitting in my driveway.

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Who's There

Ark

Ark Who

Ark Box

And so it is written

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Yes, not if but when will these gems get released. I hope when it happens David Duryeau writes the liner notes. As cool a cat as ever posted here once upon a time. He certainly loved his primal GD.

Speaking of 69.. Banana box? Holy Cow 43 was good, 44 is up on deck. We live in the valley of riches, but of all the releases the last few years the 69 was the big surprise. I'll take a double dose of that any day.

As you were.. one more Saturday Night.

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I never really got into punk but I quite liked PiL. RIP Keith Levene.

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New Bill Frisell will be on the doorstep shortly. I’m warming up the wireless/hi-fi already, in anticipation.

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....yup.
Went to the store again today.
Guess what?
Everyone was chill. The cashier was tall and thin like me. She acknowledged my Dolphins cap.
She had cool star 🌟 tats on her wrist.
One week at a time dear.
Current listening. 9.29.99. Phish. Pyramid.
Freeeeee

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I popped in the giants stadium 7/12, and it gets me every time. The whole first set like HIAB, loser, and TOS. the band was firing on all cylinders, especially Jerry and Brent with that tinkling keyboard is so sweet. Being there for most of the shows makes me bias. Just had to mention it. Back to dap 44. Great show.

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If I could pick only one Grateful Dead show to see out of all the shows they played, it would be one of the acoustic/ electric shows from 1970.

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guess who is testing positive for Covid 19?

MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

after all this time and 16 boosters.

being a teacher and being around kids = heapin' helpings of germ soup.

Fehk!

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Another one. Yikes! It's everywhere now.
And not a mask in sight.
Take it easy PF.
My local friend took a week. His wife like 10 days.
And they were just ready to get their bi-valent (Omicron+Corona).
I went and found the bi-valent (still scarce here) right after that.
Full effect around third week after booster, so about now for me.
But we are still doing masks in crowded stores since we have some COPD.
Best wishes and cheers

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Last thursday we went to zoo lights
Psychedelic wonderland

Come home
"THE DOG ATE MY CHOCOLATE!"
chocolate is toxic to dogs
Went to pet emergency hospital
Induced vomiting and overnight stay
16 hundred fookin dahlurz

Sigh

Dog is fine

Thank you 1st show

And

I see on rollingstone site they are selling GD underwear.

Rufkm

Incontinence pads maybe. But underwear?

Reminds me of the Great GD Gardening Apron Rant

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Ah man, haven't been to Zoo Lightssince the kids were little, maybe this is the year. Sorry the rest of the night wasn't as good.
Congrats to the state of MD, welcome to the 21st century

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Get well soon Proudfoot

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Holy shite PF - Covid, and then the dog ate chocolate! Get better - both of you - sending positive vibes your way.
PS - The Kraken are still The Krapen hockey team, but me like those new “third” jerseys!

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Be well soon PF!

And!…was the chocolate an edible, or just regular?

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....I have a stash of mushroom laced chocolates. Not snacks for Scooby.
Get better. I've dodged covid as far as I know, and I interact with multiple people a day.

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I purchased Dave's Picks 44, and it arrived as scheduled. The outer mailing box was punctured, and when I opened it, little pieces of plastic starting falling out. The CD case was broken. When I opened that, I discovered that CD3 was chipped and cracked. Today I listened to CD1 and discovered that it was defective. Tennessee Jed > Promised Land does not play. Anyone else have this problem? I have not listened to CD2 yet. I contacted customer service, and I learned that there were no replacement CDs available. Defective merchandise can be returned for a full refund. I am hoping that someone would be willing to email me digital copies of those songs that I am missing so that I can at least have the complete show. As I said, songs 1-7 on CD1 are fine. Songs 8>9 are defective. I haven't tried playing CD2, and CD3 is no good at all. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you!

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Scarlet Fire

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Send a PM to MaryE.

In case you haven't sent a PM before: To send a PM, if you are logged in, on the upper right of the screen are your account options, cleck here, select messages and you can probably figure out how to send a PM from here. either that or fumble through customer service. They can probably pull something better than a refund off..??

Edit: Ooops.... Proudfoot beat me to this by a couple hours. I didn't see his response before I replied. Apparently, he and his dog have been eating mushroom chocolates all day and have developed super human powers as evident by their lightening fast and accurate response.

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My dog Sarge, the brindle bull Mastiff had cancer, and was put down tonight. 14 years old. He was a loyal companion. "He's gone."

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Condolences Carlo13.

I'm pretty certain that Sarge was very happy to have had you around with him for 14 special years. You took good care of him and now he has an opportunity to rest. You provided space in this world for him and that is a special love that was returned.

Stay strong and stay positive.

Carlo - Sorry to hear you had to put to sleep your beloved dog companion Sarge. Such a tough loss.

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That a new '69 Miller board remaster is making the rounds in all of the usual places...

Grateful Dead - May 11, 1969
Aztec Bowl (SDSU) - San Diego, CA

All Transfers and Mastering by Charlie Miller
November 14, 2022

Notes:
-- This show often circulates as 5/29/69 Santa Barbara
-- Mike Carabello and Chepito Areas on percussion for Alligator > Lovelight
-- Possiobly Gregg Rolie on vocals during Lovelight
-- Thanks to Matthew Zavislak for the DAT
-- Thanks to Mike Babyak for his input on the pitch correction

Setlist:
01 - Morning Dew
02 - That's It For The Other One>
03 - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
04 - Me And My Uncle
05 - Alligator >
06 - Turn On Your Lovelight

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Sorry to hear about your loss Carlo, losing a pet is very sad.

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Putting down a faithful companion may be the hardest thing you'll ever do in this life. This from an animal person who put down his 20-yr-old cat earlier this year. The day-to-day intimate and often subconscious connection is nearly unbreakable. And yet... mercy requires courage and acceptance. This will be hard in the days ahead. I survived by focusing on the blessing and cosmic luck of the years together and the realization, which does not come easy, that "there's nothing you can hold for very long," thanks Robert Hunter.

You did good for fourteen years and your departed buddy would wish you peace. As do we.

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et al. Sorry for the loss Carlo.
Cheers to Sarge

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Dogs are amazing. Mine is a family member, fully. Condolences.

May this oft-quoted line by Will Rogers help:

“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.”

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RIP Sarge. Sorry for your loss Carlo.

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Condolences Carlo. So sorry Sarge's glorious 14 year run with you had to end. How lucky you both have been! As hard as it is to put down our four-legged companions when the time comes, they count on us to do the right thing to the very end. My 12 year old brindle Mastiff mix Annie is recovering from knee surgery, and I know her day will come sooner than later. I'll shed tears, but know she's counting on me. It's sad that dogs' and cats' lives are so much shorter than ours, but they sure do pack a lot into their time with us. Onward

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sorry for your loss man, it's tough to lose a bosom buddy, you had a good run, revel in the memories. Time will heal all wounds.

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....always happy to see you, whether you've been gone for ten minutes or days.
There's a pic of my two.
Cats are ok too. They have more of an attitude imo.

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I have had pets (dogs & cats) since 1965. It occurred to me years ago, that when I sign up to take a new animal (I call them my children, as I have no human children), we are implicitly signing up for an unknown time period of joy, and also, some days of grief & sadness. To me, this is still a good deal, but it makes the heartbreak no less painful or intense. I don't ever want to live without the unconditional love of a cat or dog, so I go in knowing the deal. I believe my life is always better with the love of a quadruped.

So, to Carlo, VGUY and everyone else who has lost a "child" recently, you have my total empathy and sympathy.
Carlo, as long as you remember Sarge, he's never really totally gone.
My 2 are 13 (redhead) and 7 (tuxedo) so 1 may go soon or not, but one piece of advice that was given to me was: "always allow 6 months to grieve before getting a new one".
By the way, I have not always taken this advice, but it does make sense to me.

"Life Is Hard"-M. Scott Peck
"But so, so worth it"-Mark B. Smith

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Very sorry to hear about your loss. Dogs are arguably one of the greatest gifts given to humankind. Their loyalty and love is unwavering. Hang in there.

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