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  • Vguy72
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    My friends, it pains me to say this....

    ....but I have to reevaluate my spending habits on box sets and subscriptions and things in general. You see, trump had a Big Announcement today. He is selling NTF based virtual trading cards today for $99 a pop. I can't resist. They are virtual trading cards of his life and accomplishments. There's one of him as a superhero, one as a cowboy, one as an astronaut and so many more! I need to collect them all guys! And if I buy 45 or more of them, I get to have dinner with him! Probably at McDonald's! Yay!
    (I am not making this up btw. Google it)
    The grift of all grifts from a so-called billionaire and none of the money goes to his reelection campaign. It goes right in his pockets. There have already been over 27k sold as I type this.
    How embarrassing.
    Ok. Back to fragments. If the partial shows sound good, yet is incomplete, I say do it.

  • proudfoot
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    But my first show hasnt been released

    The missing reel has the other one on it i bet

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Fragments

    If that’s all that exists and it is of good sound quality, then those fragments should be released.

    But cutting up a complete show just to save some disc space should not happen.
    In fact, I’m proposing a new series of releases, to run in parallel with existing release models, called the D&DMC Series (Dick and Dave’s Mea Culpa Series).

    Previous chop jobs will be Plangentized and Normanized, then released in their entirety (or as much as exists).
    Starting with 12-19-73, and pairing it with 12-18-73 in a 2-show Box, or larger.
    Followed by 10-31-71, then 6-16,18,26,28-74 (wouldn’t that make a fine Box).
    Then all DP and RT chop jobs.
    5-19,21-77 can be skipped, there are only a few songs missing that can be included as filler with 5-18-77.

    Edit: maybe I’m thinking of 5-22-77. So add those missing songs to 5-18-77.

    I’m not opposed to moving a song or two to the next DaP as a way to get a complete show released, especially when it is because we already got 2 shows on 4 CD’s.

    If HF’s first show was a good show and the 5 reels sound good, then release it once you are confident that you will never find the other reel. If someone is holding that missing reel ransom, then call in the lawyers (ABCD).

    Listened to 9-3-72% (DP36 filler) last night. It will be nice to add more songs to that playlist (to listen to while we wait for the entire show to come out in the D&DMC Series).

  • hendrixfreak
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    Uh, proudfoot, what if...

    I lost my virginity unexpectedly in a large crowd of people?

    What then??!!

    And hey, I don't want the missing reel -- I want the five freakin' reels they have!

    Aren't we a tad, just a wee bit smug, now that YOU have your first show released?

    KIDDING!

  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Fragments - Acoustic / Electric Box Set

    I'd love to see a box set of "fragments", with multiple versions of songs, half acoustic/half electric, with perhaps even a few identical "setlists". I imagine a guitar themed box case. Simply named, Acoustic-Electric (or some nifty guitar term) And all those random bits could find a home. And I concur with the others about those choice nuggets in the So Many Roads Box Set. (ahem, Whiskey in the Jar!)

  • lebowski99
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    9-10-72

    Keithfan, the version I have of this show - supposedly from the master reel - has multiple cuts, including one in the back half of the Dark Star. That could be the reason for selecting the night before.

  • proudfoot
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    this cold December morning

    on my way to work today
    I put in a CD marked "'66 #2"
    Viola Lee Blues with daylight slowly creeping in
    Cascade Mountains and some cloudscapes being illuminated by the rising sun to the east
    yes. yes. YES.

  • proudfoot
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    5 of 6

    the one missing is THE ONE that you want, that you really really want.

    C'est la vie

    Like losing one's virginity? very much alike, yet completely different.

    One was unexpected and in a big crowd of strangers.

    One was planned out.

    Which was which? That is your question of the day.

  • 1stshow70878
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    More like a wedding anniversary

    I think I went "Woo-hoo" when they announced the July '78 box.
    I had some good quality tapes but to have my first show on CD was like manna from heaven to get me through the 40 years in the desert. An anniversary gift to honor when I got on the bus.
    Cheers

  • hendrixfreak
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    Fragments? I'm shattered... cue Jagger's pouty lips...

    Just read on that one particular site that someone had an email exchange with Dave L years ago in which DL responded that they have 5 of 6 reels of 9-19-72 in the Vault, missing one reel.

    Aaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just doing a tragic operatic turn this morning. I suppose if that one reel shows up they could put out the whole show. But if it doesn't, how about 5 of 6 reels??

    Now, THAT's a fragment!

    Oh yeah, got on here to write: fragments = good. But include shows for which they have nearly complete reels. 5 of 6 is good with me.

    Why is it that my first show is so important? Is it like losing one's virginity?

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Thanks!

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Another trusty companion off to great doggie park beyond.
So sorry for your loss Carlo.
Whenever I start missing my last dog, I put on David Bromebergs version of Mr Bojangles “after 20 years he still grieves”
Hang in there and be grateful for all the good times y’all had and all the memories you’ll always have!

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Thank you! I have spoken with a couple of different people at customer service. ... no luck there. CD replacements are not available. I've decided to return it and am waiting for instructions on how to do so. ... disappointed though, b/c it's a show that I like and was looking for a good copy. Current options are (1) return it for a full refund, or (2) keep the damaged item at 25% off the price. Adding a third option might be an acceptable solution ... (3) keep the damaged item at a reduced price and receive digital downloads for the missing tracks. The reduced price could even be determined by the amount of damage. I have a damaged digipak and two damaged CDs (so far). As I said, I haven't listened to CD2 yet. Oh, well!

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Please send me a PM with the details. I can't promise a thing but I'll see what I can find out and get the Doc on the case.
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I happened upon a single disc on my collection of 11 15 72

A few tunes then a swell PITB that cuts partway through. ouch.

So listening to full show on archive. Nice.

And it's got a Cumberland.

Fall 72

Yummy

....so I heard this snippet of a song the other day on Instagram or something. I thought, "that's pretty catchy".
Turns out it was Swift's Anti-Hero song.
Pretty damn good and I love the video.
One can indeed be ones worst enemy.
I've never really listened to her before to be honest. Will be checking some more of her out.

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Really sorry to learn about Sarge, Carlo.
May he enjoy the forever leashless runs through the lush meadow in the sky.

Be Well,
Sixtus

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Dave's Picks 44 safely arrived at my house in the Netherlands today, fortunately without attracting the attention of the customs on the way. 👍🏻

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Sorry for your loss! RIP Sarge.

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Go to the utoobs, search for Weyes Blood Andromeda; amazing songwriter/performer, with very catchy and moody tunes. Check it out!

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You're intrigued by Taylor Swift and looking forward to "checking some more of her out."

Me too, bro. ALL of her.... as long as there's no music involved!

And yeah, to quote Dylan: "If I had wings, and I could fly, I know where I would go..." I'd go right straight to wherever my collie-huskie, Genaro, went, and hope to hang with my 20-year-old tuxedo cat, Zoe, too.

Man oh man, if only............

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Like Don Genaro (Genaro Flores) in Castaneda's works?
Maybe we can visit Ixtlan closer to our true state of being.
But a man of knowledge is a changed being and might not be able to go back home again.
I have a Zooey dog I can only visit in dreams as well. And my wife had a tuxedo cat. Fun coincidences.
Cheers
Dead on tap today: Dick's 25, May 10-11, 1978

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Hey, Folks, I never received Dave's 44, and I'm wondering if I've exhausted all options for relief! Apparently USPS forwarded it -- don't know where or why, though I've filed a missing mail report. But I suspect it was because the address on the shipping notice was incomplete (it was correct on the order). So I've emailed the customer service address on my order, and I've also emailed drrhino AT rhino.com. Have not heard from either. I know that people here have had good luck with Dr. Rhino. Am I using the right contact? Other suggestions for getting this show delivered? Thank you! Not fading away!

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campaign, scroll down a few entries, find Marye and send her a PM. She has near magical powers to facilitate attention to most of these matters, sort of our latter day fairy godmother to use an antiquated term. Carlo, my sympathies on your loss. Loved the animals around me from a very early age, took care of other peoples pets long term if asked. No longer are domesticated types in my life and miss that, though being close to wilderness, frequent direct experience with wildlife. There is a particularly close bond with dogs, since we have been breeding them for thousands of years to work with us. Freaking chipmunks munch all the pea sprout, have to chase deer and bear off the lawn, please don't eat the flowers. OK, love some more than others, there is nothing like a beloved unconditional companion like that

Thanks, DMCVT. I sent Marye a PM. Fingers crossed. Ears a-awaitin' for this show! (And Marye, if you're reading this, too, thanks for any advice!)

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VGuy - Like you, I knew none of Taylor Swift’s music, just knew she was pretty easy on the eyes, figured she is just another of the singers the ladies love. The wife and I were watching SNL and she was the musical guest, and she did this really long song, with some video accompaniment. My wife asked after what did I think (she loved it), and I told her truthfully, not too bad. I still have never heard another song by her, but I did hear she busted TicketBastard with demand, so props to her. That alone made me a “Swifty”!!

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Is now looking at Ticketmaster for anti-trust monopoly issues.
Ms. Swift brought that home to them when their kids were were crying their eyes out when the site crashed.
Cheers

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Thanks everyone for the kind words for Sarge, and I. Lots of dogs, and cats over the past year or so have left us deadheads. I believe Sarge, and all the other pets on this site are treated with sadness for the whole day like Garcia was mourned, but the next day would be a happy celebration for all the Jerrys', sarges' and all the other dogs and cats. They all would have wanted it that way, for us humans. Thanks again, guys.

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That dog (1978-1990) was freakin' smart. Large vocabulary and a provocateur for good times. He was vocal and brave and funny. And he was born in my backyard weeks before the GD's first shows at Red Rocks in July '78. He was still tiny when we spent those post-heavy-trip days getting ourselves put back together. One of the keys to his "hero dog" status is that I was 20 when he was born and 32 when he passed prematurely -- the best years of our lives, other than right freakin' NOW.

I'd get another dog, but it's only been 32 years since he passed, so still way too soon.

Now that my beloved cat is gone, and Dad too, I'm taking the opportunity to not be a caretaker/giant Mommy/Daddy for a while. I think that'll last a few years. Then I might take on one more round of cat & dog, if I feel I can weather the loss -- or that they could, if I cacked off.

And yet I still think I hear small footsteps and damn if it ain't quiet and a bit lonely here these days. But with a little help from my friends -- a few guitars and uncountable CD collection -- I believe I'll make it. Glass half full!

Grateful for the devoted company of animals, but sometimes it just plain hurts.

Didn’t Congress look into that years ago and do nothing?
The whole reseller thing is a scam.

Taylor needs to learn to play multiple nights in each city. The stage is already set up to be used a second and even third night. She needs to make sure that the Swifty’s get their fix.
Recall that Taylor and Mayer dated prior to Mayer being in D&C. Maybe after D&C they can get back together and make a band.

Condolences to all the pet owners. Seems that a lot have passed this year.
Dogs are great, I don’t really like cats. Chipmunks, squirrels, rabbits, groundhogs, etc suck. Always tearing up my garden.

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none of the tracking or "order status" functions do anything for me.. i have no idea whether this order exist in any way ..
hard to know what to say ... contacted the store they said they resubmitted my order... by making and entirely new order looks like... and they said i would get an email when it ships .. its been another week and no info .. and still nothing seems to work .. including logging in to this site.. had to create yet another password sequence.. I also ordered the subscription for next year... cant be sure any of it will work then either.. not really sure if i should bother trying anything else.. i dont really understand how this can happen .. computers as supposed to make all of this easier.. but doesnt seem to .. everything seems to get lost.. also seems like i cant even reply to anybody else comments.. only post new ones..

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Don't you know, IceCream, that she and JM are "never ever ever ever ever ever ever getting back together!"?

Look that up in your Funk N Wagnalls nyuk nyuk

PS Cats are awesome. Give em a chance

"That cat's something I can't explain"

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Stargazing bare eyed after sunset.
Low orbit satellite winked out on us.
Catching setting sun.
Slingshot to the moon. Far out man
Cheers

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"Lucifer sam, Siam cat. Always sitting bye your side, always by your side.......That cat's something I can't explain."

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#1892 has just been pushed through my door by the Royal Mail.

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So sorry to hear of Sarge's passing...we are allowed what seems like a short sliver of time (with all the time in the world) to have these glorious creatures be with us and leave their imprint on our soul....

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To us and Mr. Jinks & Violet...this week marks the 13th Anniversary of them agreeing to look after us....

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A new chapter in Dylan’s bootleg series coming in January:
Fragments – Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996-1997): The Bootleg Series Vol.17

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just release all the 1966 GD in the vault. just throw it all into a box and release it.

30 Days' inclusion of Mindbender has me jonesin' big time for that stuff.

MAWR MAWR MAWR!!!

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Just read an interesting snippet about a short acoustic set in the afternoon of 11/17/78 (44 years ago folks!) at Loyola College before a full electric set at the Uptown Theater in Chicago. Sounds interesting. It featured just Bobby, Jerry, Phil and Mickey. A precursor of the acoustic sets two years later I guess.

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I am in the same boat. Still no DaP44 for me. Seems to be more of an issue with this release than in the past.

Vguy - I have posted multiple times that DaP5 is the best release of the entire run. Just outstanding stuff. DaP43 is right up there though.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Xmas decorations should not be displayed or music played until the Friday after turkey day. Just my own personal opinion.

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Also one of my favorite Dave's Picks.. this and 43, top shelf GD.

Pete Rose: raw deal.

ban from baseball for life upheld. sqreuw that. One of the greatest players ever.

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For those of you who like vinyl I notice that there is a 10LP version of the deluxe set which appears to be only available from bobdylandotcom
The Rolling Stones are cashing in again releasing a limited edition vinyl box of 16 mono albums.

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I think we might have a DaP 3 issue. Does anyone else remember that? Hundreds (thousands) of copies just disappeared off the face of the earth. An unsolved mystery to this day, postman really liked disc golf maybe. I eventually did get a copy, but it wasn't numbered, just says "Promo copy" which is fine, but weak should you ever be fool enough to sell your copy I suppose.

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PT Barnum , that acoustic set from 1978 has been released, I believe it is on the extended Version of .
Reckoning. The Dead do a killer version of Tom Dooley on there. I believe this to be the case, hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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#1. Jimmy Reed the Vee Jay Years box set #2. Charlie Musslewhite, Takin My Time Arhoolie Records #3 Muddy Waters, Best of Muddy Waters Chess Records, #4Little Walter, Hate To See You Go, Chess Records, #5 Best of Little Walter, Chess Records

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I like the Road Trips from 11/21 even more than Dave's 5. And that Road Trips came with choice filler from 11/20 and a bonus disc from 12/6. Yessiree Bob.

People diss the series, but it had some killers. (Although they were terribly packaged.)

The list below is taken from Wikipedia, apologies for the poor formatting. This is the bonus material on the Rhino reissue. Two tracks from the 78 show

No. Title Writer(s) Recording date and venue Length
1. "To Lay Me Down" (Studio Rehearsal)
Garcia Hunter
09/14/80 Club Front 9:12
2. "Iko Iko" James "Sugar Boy" Crawford, Barbara Anne Hawkins, Rosa Lee Hawkins, Joan Johnson 10/07/80 Warfield Theatre 4:23
3. "Heaven Help the Fool" (instrumental version)
Weir Barlow
10/25/80 Radio City Music Hall 6:18
4. "El Paso" Marty Robbins 10/13/80 Warfield Theatre 4:41
5. "Sage & Spirit" Weir 10/31/80 Radio City Music Hall 3:14
6. "Little Sadie" Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/31/80 Radio City Music Hall 2:45
7. "It Must Have Been the Roses" (Alternate Live Version) Hunter 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 7:01
8. "Dark Hollow" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 4:30
9. "Jack-A-Roe" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:08
10. "Cassidy" (Alternate Live Version)
Weir Barlow
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:06
11. "China Doll" (Alternate Live Version)
Garcia Hunter
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:52
12. "Monkey and the Engineer" (Alternate Live Version) Fuller 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 2:37
13. "Oh Babe It Ain't No Lie" (Alternate Live Version) Cotten 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 7:13
14. "Ripple" (Alternate Live Version)
Garcia Hunter
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 4:37
15. "Tom Dooley" Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 11/17/78 Rambler Room 3:33
16. "Deep Elem Blues" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 11/17/78 Rambler Room 3:42

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....that the general public never had a chance to buy them. Remaining sales are cancelled.
Ticketmaster had already sold more than 2 million of them in their stupid "pre-sale" scam and even they were snubbed. Resellers are already asking 20K or more. What a racket. One of the worst companies on the planet.

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Jimbo, your comment on DaP 5 got me to thinking - this is one of my favorite releases that I rarely listen to. I don't know why.

Lebowski99 - Road Trips '73 gets me sometimes with the buzzing in places - my problem for listening on headphones, but it is strong with the Force. I like how PITB Part 2 is practically a Dark Star segment (even part 3 could be the Space section). Set list is fantastic, although I think it was one Beer Barrel Polka from sheer perfection.

Agree on Pete Rose. Ban him from the commentator's booth so he can't put people off with stories about "cock-high fast balls", but put him the Hall. The dude never bet against the Reds, which I think is a hinging factor on how I feel about his exclusion. I'm 20 minutes outside of Philly, so I grew up watching him, Lefty, and Schmitty lead them to World Series victory, so yeah, I've seen him play a lot more than most. I was also at a game in '81 or '82 on the first base line, leaning over the fence trying to get a foul ball rolling in our direction. Some big a*** hole ran up behind me as we were next to the steps. I was only 9 or 10 and precariously teetering over the fence trying to get this ball, and he knocked me right onto the field on my face. Really rung my bell and scraped up my face on the rough surface (Vet stadium had astroturf on the field, but the warning track and surrounding area was this abrasive non-slip rubber composite). My mom had taken me to the game and couldn't reach me. Pete was already running over and helped me back over the fence. Asked if I was alright, said he saw the whole thing and had the catcher (who I think was still Bob Boone) throw him a ball to give me. Quite a week after that. But the way I see it he's paid his penance, especially when players like Bonds are stealing records from Hank Aaron and getting away with it.

Classy move from ol' PR

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20K for a ticket to anyone....
No.
Fookin'.
Way.

Tie Ticketmaster down with heavy stones and throw it into the river. Robber Barons R' Us.

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