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  • billy the kiddd
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    1968 The Great Northwest tour box set

    It's comming, some of the tapes are in the vault, the rest are in Owsleys boxes. It's gonna be a knockout!

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    Hey Dave, got email from Experience vinyl's christmas sale. I saw they had a Hawkwind LP for preorder (we are looking in on you too). Thought it might interest you.

    Further note, I laughed when they show 3 from the vault being released in two day!!!! (right)

    1 and 2 pushed back till next year (again)!!!

    And the hits keep coming!

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    What is the format and timing for a '68 release?

    Just an exercise to see if my logic is still working... (Admittedly, there's a short distance between "logic" and "rationalization.")

    Releasable shows from '66 to '68 must be considerably rarer than the rest of the '69 to '95 period. Strategically, for the long haul, Dave wants to preserve a few "surprises" from '66 to '68 -- whether that really serves the "legacy" or just the business of the legacy. Yet when an unusual tape is uncovered (think 18 April '70) Dave has shown interest in kicking up dust with a release outside of the annual box and DaP series.

    I see three basic avenues for '68 release(s) or other oddball tapes (think MG's now-near-forgotten stash return): the annual box, DaP, and one-off RSD or just a special one-for-the-fans. (Although I was underwhelmed when they coupled a '68 release with that cartoon history book. C'mon! Why dangle a '68 to sell effin' cartoons??)

    If it's a box, do we think that Rhino is going to green light a more focused version of the porch crusher and go with a 10-CD collection of '66-'70? (That's what I wanted and they threw in '71-'95.) You know they're not going to release a 20-CD box from that span.

    A 3-disc DaP would seem friendly to, say, two or three '68 shows and I'd soil my diapers for that route.

    Or they do a one-off with the newly discovered June '68 tape from Owsley's banana boxes; even a short, limited edition release would cover its costs and reinvigorate the die-hards (that's us) belief in the almighty Vault's potential. OR (coffee!!) TPTB let the OSF release '68 GD.

    The recent MSG box demonstrates that there's plenty of great rock 'n roll in the Vault, but what percentage is really of keen historical interest, by which I mean transitional shows early in the band's development? I think it's telling that Dave commented, I think, on the PNW box (might be another box) that he proposed a 10-12 CD set and Rhino said make it a 20-CD set -- so the latter must be a sweet spot for production margins, meaning profit. (Ah, the word "profit"! I have no hang-up with that: no profit, no Vault releases.)

    So I see a potential '68 release(s) as a one-off in the DaP series or a special release. And I think it's key to create some Vault-related "excitement" because here's my personal calculus: I'm 65. Been a devoted customer of the recordings since 1971, live shows from '72 to '92 (so, 50+ years). Quit the scene in '87 after the band (Jer) ran out of steam and at age 30 I was actually evolving -- not mutating, just evolving... Over time, as with Jimi, the ABB and other favorites, the recordings replaced the defunct band as my foci. But as you may surmise from my recent news, I am switching gears and considering new ways of approaching life. In other words, if Dave is planning another, say, 15+ years of releases, shouldn't they front-load it with those great, transitional early shows? 1966 is fun, but '67 and '68 are typically ferocious. Will I still care about '68 tapes in five years? In 2027, the band will have been defunct for 32 years. I know the "kids" (20s and 30s today) love this stuff but I don't think they "get" '68. Just a guess.

    So many roads, so many words, when I could have just said: More '68, NOW!

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    Fancy boxes, 1968

    Here's another vote for simple packages, i.e. like Winterland box sets. Three-four show runs with 10-12 discs priced under $100 postpaid. Simple. Bet they would sell well, easier to produce. Shelf space is an issue here, as much as might like the fancy boxes with extras, they just sit on a shelf, its all about the music. On CD. Speaking of which and in HF reference to 1968, how about that Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm 9-2-68, Sky River Rock Festival show.

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  • Nick1234
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    HF I agree. All that packaging crap is one of the reasons that I rarely buy the boxes these days. The Winterland boxes are classy, really nice, easy to store and use, let's go back to that format. And why are they so expensive? Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue box was 14 discs for £50.

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    That was never a goal

    Nevertheless, I am sure I speak for football fans the world over when I say I hope... Japan win.

    I think the England team are benefitting from the fact that no alcohol is allowed in the stadiums. They play much better sober.

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    Songbird is indeed a phenomenal song.

    It can be interpreted from multiple perspectives.

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    What's going on?

    Belgium out, Germany out, England score 6 and then 500 on the first day. What's going on?

  • hendrixfreak
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    Feelin' bett-uh

    Vibes much appreciated, trust me.

    Hey, I ordered the new Petty 4-CD box Monday, it just landed. It is a model of minimal packaging while still being a fun package. I know that Dave & Co. love to work up each year's box and I have no complaints, I have argued that the effort on the packaging lends dignity to the music release. But environmentally I wonder whether a new more minimalist approach would be welcomed on GD boxes.

    Just a thought... Hitting the couch now. Many thanks for the support.

    DMCVT: look for a gray-ish shirt with tiny white dots! Gawd, that was an experience, especially at my age back then.

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That would put a stop to the practice pretty quickly.
Of course, not everybody’s going to boycott, so it won’t work.
But, you can still go to the event and wait until it starts and you might get a cheaper ticket.
Kind of like buying a paper ticket from a scalper after the show has started, but you’re doing it digitally.

Of course, even at face value the price is probably ridiculously high.

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Like if Jerry were still alive

I wonder how much they would charge

The TS juggernaut must be otter-pocket happy over this publicity

....if you really, really, REALLY like a band/artist and wanna stick it to the man, go to the venue anyway, make sure your phone is charged and has 5G, and buy tix at showtime. You might miss a song, but you're a damn fan man!
Those bastard resellers will shed tix at face or less faster than a husky sheds fur in summer and they will take the loss. 🖕
And apparently, there are millions of Swiftys. Amazing.

I never purchased them when they were initially released. The GD store was cleaning out inventory many years ago and I bought a bunch of them. Austin 71, Denver 73, Louisville 74, the Fillmore 70 and a few others. They are actually fantastic releases. Much better than I ever expected.

Pete Rose is not the most likable person, but he certainly deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. My sense is that they won’t admit him until after he passes away. Which is a shame.

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....I remember that AJS. Got Dicks 26-30 for approx $120 back in the day.
#27 is the only officially released Welnick only that I know of. Which reminds me....12.16.92 on tap.
It's got a Shakedown.

Started off a little slow and the packaging was subpar albeit made from fully recycled, non-bleached brown paper bags. There are a few that sound a little thin, a few that sound a little fuzzy, a few where the master reels got played a few times too many and a few that sound fantastic. I think it was during this series that Jeffrey Norman found his stride. It was around this time we last time we saw Blair Jackson grace the liner notes and the artwork was mostly decent if you could see it through the fog of the brown paper. It was almost a great series.. "missed it by that much."

......but there are a few stellar classics that reached super stardom mixed in. The best has to be Valentines day 1968. Holy smoking crater of my mind I like to blow away batman. If your brain isn't splattered all over the inside of your skull, add in the bonus disc and strap in for an additional ride around the solar system, brain = cosmic debris, check. FE May 1970, Louisville '74, Big Rock Pow Wow anyone.. goosebump shit, wowwow stuff. Some of the bonus discs were more than memorable also. Man, sometimes we don't realize just how good we have it.

Now where were we.. there's got to be a 1968 banana box in here somewhere, shine that light over here Lemieux.

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....JiminMD sent me a burnt copy of that in the mail when we first started communicating because I wasn't paying much attention to the releases at that time in the past.
Thanks Jim! It's still on my GD shelves.
Putting it in now. For first few tunes at least. No setlist written down, so playing it by ear.
Edit. An acoustic Friend Of The Devil is a grate start. 👍

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Dig 'em. October 1977 may have been the biggest miss, but there a couple tunes worth the price if admission (The Music Never Stops, Let It Grow). It's also nice to have the last Help/Slip/Franklin of the Godchaux era, though I don't feel it's a great performance. This one may still be available.

Jimmy, you're right on queue with the Feb '68 show. Between some misprints on the dates I read about with the bonus tracks and disc, I believe we have all of the Eagles Aud show from 1/27 as well. Probably the biggest bang for the buck, considering the lacka good1968 recordings.

Same with 1974. Jerry comes through more prominently than pretty much all of the '74 two-tracks. One of my favorite Morning Dews on there.

1978 is great just because there's do little from the Shakedown era.

Still scratching my head on why there's no 1972 Road Trips.

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Burnt meaning an original, paid for authentic CD that was unfortunately involved in and damaged twice by fire. First a barn fire started when one of my homemade tube amps from my big boy barn system was struck by lightning and caught fire. Don't fret as the disc, although damaged, was rescued and refurbished.. I do miss my barn though. Then while driving my vespa cross country in the winter to catch those rocking Further New Years shows.. the engine instantaneously combusted while crossing a snow crusted mountain pass in the Rockies. My first instinct was fortunately to hit the eject button on the stock CD player. Alas, although the disc ejected moments before the engine explosion, my prized bonus CD still suffered serious burns from secondary flames before I was able to safely put it in it's 'protective' sleeve. It probably would have survived if they used a different sleeve material, recycled brown paper bags are not very flame retardant, in fact as I learned in the subsequent moments it's actually quite flammable. Luckily, I had a spare and gifted VGuy my burnt copy which after some scrubbing with dawn dish detergent somehow still played amazingly well. Twice burnt but plays grate, what are the Vegas odds?

I'm sure this kind of thing has happened to many of you many times over the years. More common than one would think.

As you were.

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Jim, your avatar well bolstered by that story... witness the DANGER sign... and now I know what the round things are on the left, souvenir tires from the vespa incident. Who else has stacks of old electrical equipment cobbled together for a time machine? They can re issue or license for re issue all the RTs they want, why not the bonus discs and for that matter, the individual Europe 72 shows, please and thanks, if any WMG Rhinos reading.

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Ah, yes.

7 31 71 and bonus disc (part of "Summer '71")
So many others

I avoid looking at and memorizing set lists as much as possible for cosmic surprises

Hey y'all
Tomorrow is 11/19/22. Which glorious GD show happened 50 prior???

One of my two "stop effing around Dave and release these!!!" shows.

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Yup, you clarified awrighty! No burnt CD's around here, but several on my desk just got sprayed with morning coffee. You packed a fat novel into that single-paragraph clarification. Haaaaaa!!! Nothing to do but smile, smile, smile. . . Onward.

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So much great music there and hard to pick a favorite but I really like 1.4 from Egypt with Love, that Got My Mojo Working! Really good. 3.3 is a classic and 4.2 from 88 is a great change of pace.

I could be wrong Jim, but I believe Blair also wrote the liner notes for Dave's Picks 1-3 and than seemed to leave the Grateful Dead world. Not sure why. Always enjoyed reading his stuff.

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11/17/73: I’m not sure why this one hasn’t hit me yet? Now don’t get me wrong, it’s fall 73 and I like it very much, but of the few listens I’ve had…? Obviously needs more love and attention!
Great show but look at Deadbase at all it’s lofty neighbors!
I think it’s just that tour is so solid overall that it has stiff competition in the foggy crags of what’s left of my mind.
And that RT 12/6/73 disc is probably my single favorite live disc released with that monster Scary Moons Dark Star etc, phew, big medicine!

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Nice to see RT get a critical re-evaluation here. I have most of the releases, and even repurchased one at a used shop just to get the bonus disc paired with it (the store owner would only sell as a set, and he knew he had an addict on his hands). Standouts to me were “Egypt” (Vol 1 No 4), and the November ‘73 “Denver”.

Earlier this week, there was a lot of talk about the TicketBastard fiasco with Taylor Swift and the Swifties! A great article in my news feed today worth reading about the fans going after TicketBastard, entitled “Radicalize The Swifties”, from Slate (?) magazine. One line I liked: “But the company has never shaken a beehive quite like the Swifties. Swift’s fanbase is as rabid as they are loyal to the megastar…”
What I found most telling is that Swift, herself, has been somewhat quiet about this, and perhaps she stands to score big on this. But do you bite the hand that feeds you??

A Jazz reissue out I’m intrigued to hear, and wondered if anyone has heard it before (apparently, it was ultra rare): “Secret Sauce” by Eric Ghost. The album came out in 1975, and this guy is credited as being the guy that “invented” blotter acid, after spending time in Morocco, while stationed in the military in the 60s. He subsequently spent time in federal prison, and dropped out of site, and now the album is being reissued. Not sure if it is good or not, just found the background interesting, and wondered if anyone has ever heard it?

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Individual E72 shows were on sale forever. Nobody purchased them. I suspect that is why Dead.net decided to have an inventory sale.

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Pointed out the new Dylan bootleg,,,, bastard!!!

300 bucks before first cup of coffee put down!

Then rhino had Thick as a Brick LP on SALE! (came with the "newspaper",,, my copy doesn't have)

(listening to cd version now!)

watch the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ continue to roll in.

and keep stroking caressing fluffing an ego that is its own galaxy by now.

"oh the publicity...yesss....just like that....oooohhhhhh yeeesssssssss!!!! THE DOOOOOLLLLAAAARRRRSSSSSS!!!! ALL OVER ME!!!!"

sorry...a little Covid dementia there...

still testing positive. How much longer???

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Did pick off a bunch back in the days when they were $20-25 here, and foolishly stopped after deciding about half the trunk was enough. Would happily back fill a few more, my appreciation for that tour has only grown over the intervening. No reason why they could not allow reissues of singles shows imho. Or downloads.

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Sorry Dennis, but I’m helping you build what I already think is a very bad ass music collection!! (I bought the Dylan box set, too, but on CD). However, to stay in your wife’s good books, I won’t tell you that Blue Note, Rhino, and our very own Dead.net have a huge blockbuster sale going on. Huge.

PF - There seems to be some trifecta of Covid, Flu, and RVS (I had to look that one up) going around. Take care of your health, shake that viral death germ!

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Hola!
I’m with you: missed out on the E72 box for various reasons…
Started to slowly purchase ala carte, mostly for the big Dark Star shows.
Wish I would have caught the “AJS sale”…
Then they went away. I was hoping they’d do a reissue for the big 50th but I guess that might have cut into their vinyl sales? Though I do have most of the shows, several ala carte, several from the good folks here in Deadland (thanks again to those kind folks), it would have been nice for collection purchases to have all official releases.
I know first world problems for sure. At least I have ALL those magnificent monster Dark Stars!!
Reminds me, need to hear more of those!
Happy Friday folks, stay warm, be safe. To my peeps back on the balmy west coast of NY, hope you have those snowblowers ready!

Howdy Mike! You guys getting in on the lake effect action up there in Canadaland?
I think Dennis should be giving you a finders fee for all the “help” you give him with his awesome collection lol

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Her corporation could do a GDTS type thing to sell tickets to mortals instead of using the Ticketmaster iron sausage approach.

Or maybe that's another statement from Covid dementia.

anyway...no more TS comments from me.

7/4/84 plays away

roll away the dew
roll away the dew
roll away the dew

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Oro - Nope, pretty well snow free here! They are moving the Bills game to Detroit, though. But I really like your idea about the finders fee, Oro! I think if I ever meet Dennis’ wife, I’ll have to introduce myself as “Oro”, because I suspect she is pretty pissed at That Mike prick for enabling Dennis to abuse the credit card! ;)

Still no sign of 44 north of the 49th.

I did the exact same thing. Bought the individual highlight shows, 4/8, 5/26, etc. It got to be expensive after a while so I just decided to sucked it up and purchase the all music only version as a Christmas present to myself.

To be honest, it is nice to have all of them, but in reality, I only occasionally listen to entire shows anymore. When I do, it is the same choices, 4/14, 5/3, etc. I did play the 5/11 Dark Star while attempting to watch the Packer Titans game last night.

Is is just me or is the video quality on Amazon Prime football games just awful?

There are some really cool photos of the snowstorm in Buffalo. A literal wall of snow just south of the city. I would post them, but you know . . .

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That’s ok Mikey, like Nixon I’ll take the responsibility, but not the blame! Just hope Mrs Dennis isn’t an overly angry type…with weapons!

Yeah AJS, that video quality is unacceptable! Especially since your forced to go there.
We pay for the greedy DTV NFL package but can’t chose what feed to watch, while the ridiculously cheap NHL package usually does, go figure.

Just checked out some WNY vids, my old home has 3’ already with possibly 2’ more coming. Got me a little teared up and homesick.

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Good God the man has suffered enough, let him in you jerks, and while you're at do something about the cheating 'Stros.
I really liked the RT series, but I think I was the only one. If El Paso hits my speakers I fast forward, same with about half of Bobbies other songs, I'm here for the Jerry. For a while there was a bonus disc with every release, that rocked. Louisville 74, Valentines 68, Austin 71, Pow Wow 69, and of course 5.15.70. I think that was the first time they offered a subscription too, maybe towards the end. Most were excellent, just not full shows which most here didn't want, too bad, they were/still are terrific

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Don't forget the one you salvaged for me after your Porche caught fire. I told you not to rush ahead and buy a new one until we pulled the CD player out. It's amazing what these things can survive.

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Carlo so sorry to hear about your dog passing. It's so hard to let a pet who is a member of the family go. We had to lose our cat a couple years ago and it was rough. We waited two years before recently getting a new kitten. You have to give it time to grieve.

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Reading through some other threads, looks like delayed shipping is a common problem. But this is the first time my subscription delivery has been this late. Tell me to be more patient or something. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I emailed customer service to inquire and was politely told that it could take 10 days to process once I got the shipping notification, which was on 10/27 (way more than 10 days ago now). UPS and USPS both still say currently waiting on package so I'm at a loss. Is this normal? Will it ever arrive? The daily mailbox disappointment is a first world problem that is surprisingly depressing.

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#1 5/15/70, #2. 2/14/68, also like the big Rock Pow Wow from May 1969.

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Seeing a certain ruthless blowhard take over a company and everyone leaves.

I really hope the little blue bird crashes and burns. That would be soooooo sweet.

Fritter.

Schadenfreude ist ein Freund

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Big ups to Jim, Mike(you know, THAT one), AJS, Stoltzie and others, for the reminders about Road Trips. Jim helped me by providing the only disc in the series I was unable to obtain, the Cal Expo ‘93 Bonus Disc, and it is great!!
So, I dug into my bonus disc from June ‘74(Louisville etc.), and holy frijoles, I did not remember just how mind blowing that disc is. A mighty fine Greatest Story(not my fave at all), a fine Dew( aren’t they all fine??). But after a rollicking Truckin’, the 13 minute Jam(mind blowingly fantastic) into a sweet Wharf Rat. My God, just let me die now, I’ve gone to Heaven!!
So what to follow that with?? Why, the first subscription bonus disc, and the awesomeness of a 43 1/2 minute Dark Star.
Calgon take me awayyyy……

....damn. You are old Mr. Ones lol.
It's not margarine. It's Parkay! Hey. They both suck.
Going up to cold country soon. Northern Nevada. Realized I didn't have a decent coat/jacket because Vegas. Went with a Kuhl. Always nervous ordering shirts/jackets online because i have a long torso and arms and legs.
But this fits nice. Any of you frigid temp heads familiar with that brand?
Buffalo getting hammered with what some call lightningsnow. It's a mix. Of lightning. And snow.
So many new meteorological terms I've heard in the past decade or so. Don't tell me the climate ain't changing. Zip it.

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Like you, I began purchasing single Europe 72 shows for $25 each. If I recall correctly some of the more popular shows like 5/26, were $30. Maybe that’s just because it was four discs. Anyway, Dead.net had a 20% off sale around the holidays one year. So, I bought the whole tour for something like $350. I think that’s when I bought all of the road trip releases as well. Shortly thereafter everything was gone.

Still no DaP44 for me either. Both UPS and the USPS blame the other one. Maybe now they’ll blame the snow in Buffalo as the cause.

So, I spun the Austin 71 road trips disc. That NFA jam is something else.

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I appreciate your help. Enjoy the music!

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Went with this RT selection, did not disappoint! Scarlet>Fire is always sweet. I forgot how good this series was. I have 2 or 3 I didn’t get initially, that I’ll watch for in the market.

VGuy - not familiar with Kühl gear, but looked it up, nïce! Very nïce!

same done for Euro72 shows, shows with Dark Stars came first... but that left out too many TOOs... happy camper to have about half the trunk on the shelf. Just two inches of heavy wet snow here on the east coast of Vermont a couple days ago but its cold cold cold. Takin' off my sailin' shoes. That Neon Park album cover with cake on a swing is on display in the music library. Killington has been pumping out snow for a big competition, opened to the public as have many other ski mountains this weekend. Melt down in the valley, weather people showing how lake effect plume dumping feet in western NY stretches all the way over to VT border. Feel sorry for those folks too much too soon like winter. This weekend, will have to fondle the RT collection, truly some outstanding stuff there. That Hard to Handle on RT1.3 bonus disc (from 8.6.71) one of my BOATs, Jerry on fire.

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FALL 73 BABY!
And thanks for the 11/17/73 nudge. Broke out much of that for beery night session.
Forgot how amazing that jam sequence is! The songs just melt into each other!
Too damn funny: how many times does one of us go “sheeoott, forgot how good that one is” lol
We are truly a spoiled bunch! But that doesn’t mean we don’t want 2 boxes a year and 5 Dave’s lol
Hup, hup, nothing to it but ta do it…

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Proper. Hamburg, our old home with over 6’ and more coming, Orchard Park, the next town over and where the Bills play, has 77” so far…almost makes me homesick…almost!

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Oro - I took the dog down to the lakefront park where I live, and I look across the lake towards the Western NY area, and cannot believe they may be getting buried under 4 feet of snow by the time this is over, an area I can see on the horizon, while I have a neighbour raking up leaves, absolutely no snow here. It is too weird! It is a Bermuda Triangle - Northern Edition.

Going to the Denver ‘73 RT next! I think Jim threw RT out there, so glad he did. A good series with some great highlights. Packaging? Well,…

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My spreadsheet comments read:
D1: Whoa
D2: A++/the best hour of Dead EVER?!
D3: Great, just great.
Great sounding show. Amazing.

I must've enjoyed it! :) When I'm turning people on to the GD, or when casual fans ask for a REALLY hot show, I often send them THIS one.

Be kind, rewind.

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VGUY, I knew somebody would catch that reference. Old, you’re damn right, and proud of it!! Just happy to wake up each day. I’m keeping the Road Trips rolling today. Now that some yard work is done, I’m taking Jim’s John Deere time machine back to Feb. ‘68!!
From there, who knows. I know one thing:

Music is the Best!!

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....oh yeah. It's in the Road Trips.
Vol 4. No 4. Spectrum 4.6.82. Benjamin Franklin told me so.
It's a revival y'all!!
It's got a Shakedown and a Dew.
Let It Shine.
Nice John Deere reference Mr. Ones.
Jim only borrows it out for crypto. Oopsie.
I have weed and shrooms and some peanut butter flavored whiskey. Deal?
Hand me the keys. I'll even detail it.

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